alanshaffer3293
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Where are the parents in this situation?
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Plagued Super Smash Bros. Community
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I'm not trying to defend him because he's fucking awful at wording things but I think in the first tweet, he meant to say he's writing a google doc but he doesn't expect it to just magically fix everything, not that he's just not gonna write one period. It's his own fault if people interpret that as him changing his mind in a matter if just a couple tweets though.
I don't think a doc is a good idea because this dude is clearly a fucking idiot and the more he gives, the more he incriminates himself. Get a fucking lawyer, you mouthbreathing retard.
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If the teen ran away from home into a house full of adult men who are fucking strangers to her, I don't think her parents would have been much help.
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I used to think sky was the Epstein of smash, but in truth, he was the gay love child of Epstein and Louis C.K. He's going to get triple canceled.
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Funny how some of the most hated in the community are clean. It's the ones that virtue signal about BL(dont)M turning out to be creepy paedophiles and predators.
Top players such as Hbox and Leffen have faced physical assault in tournaments, it was trendy to hate on them at some point before their "redemption arc".
I know I'm very late to this shit. It's been a huge shitshow that's fun to watch.
I guess Twitlonger is something new? If Twitter is cancer, what's Twitlonger?
I'd rather get raped by Coronachan.
Top players such as Hbox and Leffen have faced physical assault in tournaments, it was trendy to hate on them at some point before their "redemption arc".
I know I'm very late to this shit. It's been a huge shitshow that's fun to watch.
I guess Twitlonger is something new? If Twitter is cancer, what's Twitlonger?
I'd rather get raped by Coronachan.
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Twitlonger has been a thing as far back as I can remember Twitter itself. Basically it is a way to send out a long tweet because Twitter's character limit is too short for big apologies speeches/explanations/expose stories which has been a very common use for Twitlonger in the past. As far as I know Twitlonger has been around since Twitter became a popular social media platform, it's more a tool within Twitter then its own community.
Think of it like making a really long blog post, only you attach it to your Twitter instead of using a blogging site.
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Someone who lived at sky's house explains how it worked.
Some Notes on how the Sky House worked
DISCLAIMER With all of these posts surfacing about Sky House, I’ve noticed a fair amount of confusion regarding why people acted (or failed to act) a certain way. Firstly, I do not condone any of the heinous actions that partook in the house. I only would like to explain the culture to hopefull...docs.google.com
So I didn't see this second google doc shared from someone named Nips, this whole house was run almost Big Brother style
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...review?pru=AAABc0pFPQ4*YJNF2_gHtC9YuIf5o3CGYw (Archive)
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The people who are the most 'woke' tend to be those with the worst things to hide. At least, those who are publicly projecting wokeness usually have something going on that makes them look bad.
Whatever happened to the days of being humble, not getting involved in internet drama, and keeping your nose out of trouble?
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Being outspokenly political (with the right opinions) became more popular and profitable, so social media, probably.
Cryogonal
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Do you not understand how CRT TVs work? Imagine participating in a tournament with 5 frames of input lag for the entire event. It would be misery.
Gamepad
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Well, guess that fallout is just in time for the OSSC Pro to come out.
RelaxedCrow
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Who could've guessed?
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This extreme level of
Carrying in large televisions, auditing controllers, and enforcing those standards evenly across the competition is annoying and bothersome. I guess that is indicative of EVO's management style: avoid annoying shit. And the result is people fucking the children and having the entire competition canceled forever.
Enjoy this repost:
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holy shit. There's so much to take in
Me and @LucasSomething speculated how shady Skys finances were. But I couldn't even imagine it being this deep.
Sky might be a fucking idiot, but he's a brilliant manipulator. There's no doubt about it. I have a gut feeling a good chunk of his personality is just a ruse to get peoples guard down so he can better manipulate people.
Me and @LucasSomething speculated how shady Skys finances were. But I couldn't even imagine it being this deep.
Sky might be a fucking idiot, but he's a brilliant manipulator. There's no doubt about it. I have a gut feeling a good chunk of his personality is just a ruse to get peoples guard down so he can better manipulate people.
LS
This video happened around 5 years ago. a lol player that's friends with ls, XJ9, who was banned for leaking his underaged gfs nudes because she played Lee Sin, got unbanned. But after the outlash from the lol community, riot banned him again.
Afterwards, ls tweeted/streamed his reaction to the situation. He was obviously upset and torn. Guess who showed up to give moral ls support? Sky.
This video happened around 5 years ago. a lol player that's friends with ls, XJ9, who was banned for leaking his underaged gfs nudes because she played Lee Sin, got unbanned. But after the outlash from the lol community, riot banned him again.
Afterwards, ls tweeted/streamed his reaction to the situation. He was obviously upset and torn. Guess who showed up to give moral ls support? Sky.
Tachibana
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From the looks of it, she ran away from home at 15 as a minor to fulfill her dreams of drawing Smash art (I guess). Very bad relationship with her family. http://archive.md/dVbLd
When I was just 15, I was essentially trafficked out of my home to live in California with *** My life at home at the time was hell. My family is highly dysfunctional, and even now I face daily troubles with them–however, they do not compare to the life I lived at ***’s side.
The guy she mentions is Werner, otherwise known as Vidjogamer. He not only was her manager, but the person who registered and owned the JisuArt brand. As any good manager would do, he tried to get sexually involved with her. That's what good management is I think. It wouldn't surprise me if Sky Williams was involved in the trafficking at this point, especially since Werner and Jisu were having sexy times at his house when she was 16.
They were extremely controlling. They slowly took over every facet of my life. In the first year or so, my naivety allowed them to do so without resistance. They would say that their actions were only for my own good, and that since I was 10 years beneath them, I shouldn’t question it. Before we even started JisuArt, they would do everything they could to keep me under control without being legally at risk. This meant things like having my passwords and socially coercing me to only associate/hang out with them– but not actually say anything outright abusive. Anyone who knew us before I was Jisu of JisuArt would understand what I mean by this. A good example would be employing extreme guilt-tripping: “Jackie, you can’t hang out with those people. Remember, they said those things about me? They’re bad people, you can’t trust them. If you hang out with them, I have no choice, but to move you back home”.
They also gaslit me for years. We started JisuArt when I was 17, which was too young to have my name on any of the legal documentation. They promised me that we would fix this the moment I turned 18, but that never happened. Instead, they made sure that every single important aspect of the business was under their name and thus ultimately under their control. On the surface, they would pretend like the business is a 50/50 venture, but it was not. It was ALWAYS their way, or the highway. When I began to seriously resist, they would berate me, insult me, and even physically intimidate me into obeying them. But the next day, when I would confront them about these things– they would pretend that it never even happened. Either that, or they would take drastic measures like drilling 3 holes into my phone, or shutting the site down for months, and leaving me the task to put it back up. I also never controlled any of the money. Every purchase had to be approved by them. While they were allowed to spend the money as they wanted, I couldn’t. It was seriously backwards considering the brand was contingent on my ability as an artist. This always led to an empty bank account at the end of every month, despite all the hard work I would put in without return.
I was miserable, but I felt like there was no way out. 2017 became the lowest point of my life. I was somehow living a double-life where I was this happy, productive face of a booming art brand, but also the puppet and slave to this horrible person. Several times I thought to just quit, but all the current momentum and stake I already had in JisuArt kept me locked in. *** knew this, and they would add strength to the shackles by constantly spewing how invaluable or replaceable I was. Several times, I contemplated suicide. It’s only through the support of my dearest fans and friends that I could even make it through now.
Then one day, I stumbled upon Alice Glass’s statement: http://www.alice-glass.com/cc/ Never in my life has every word of a passage resonated with me so hard. I felt like I was reading a memoir of the past 4 years of my life. That’s when I knew I had to take action.
All hell broke loose. When I tried to end things civilly, it didn’t work. Since everything was under their name, there was no way to work things out unless it was their way. When I kicked them out of my residence, they took many of the things acquired throughout our time together. This included numerous personal items such as games, consoles, etc. Dealing with them and trying to end things civilly was pure torture. Since my parents do not speak English, I was basically facing this alone. I even went to their family and friends to try and see if I could get anything from this, to no avail.
Thus, I had to leave. I left JisuArt. I left my brand, whatever money there was left, sole-licensing to my work, tens of thousands of dollars of assets, 4 years of marketing and traveling, but most of all– I finally left them. After months of battling, once they finally realized that I was no longer under their grasp– they went full conservation mode. Their true sociopathic nature revealed itself as they seriously had nothing to say except for how much I screwed them over. Disgusting.
They also gaslit me for years. We started JisuArt when I was 17, which was too young to have my name on any of the legal documentation. They promised me that we would fix this the moment I turned 18, but that never happened. Instead, they made sure that every single important aspect of the business was under their name and thus ultimately under their control. On the surface, they would pretend like the business is a 50/50 venture, but it was not. It was ALWAYS their way, or the highway. When I began to seriously resist, they would berate me, insult me, and even physically intimidate me into obeying them. But the next day, when I would confront them about these things– they would pretend that it never even happened. Either that, or they would take drastic measures like drilling 3 holes into my phone, or shutting the site down for months, and leaving me the task to put it back up. I also never controlled any of the money. Every purchase had to be approved by them. While they were allowed to spend the money as they wanted, I couldn’t. It was seriously backwards considering the brand was contingent on my ability as an artist. This always led to an empty bank account at the end of every month, despite all the hard work I would put in without return.
I was miserable, but I felt like there was no way out. 2017 became the lowest point of my life. I was somehow living a double-life where I was this happy, productive face of a booming art brand, but also the puppet and slave to this horrible person. Several times I thought to just quit, but all the current momentum and stake I already had in JisuArt kept me locked in. *** knew this, and they would add strength to the shackles by constantly spewing how invaluable or replaceable I was. Several times, I contemplated suicide. It’s only through the support of my dearest fans and friends that I could even make it through now.
Then one day, I stumbled upon Alice Glass’s statement: http://www.alice-glass.com/cc/ Never in my life has every word of a passage resonated with me so hard. I felt like I was reading a memoir of the past 4 years of my life. That’s when I knew I had to take action.
All hell broke loose. When I tried to end things civilly, it didn’t work. Since everything was under their name, there was no way to work things out unless it was their way. When I kicked them out of my residence, they took many of the things acquired throughout our time together. This included numerous personal items such as games, consoles, etc. Dealing with them and trying to end things civilly was pure torture. Since my parents do not speak English, I was basically facing this alone. I even went to their family and friends to try and see if I could get anything from this, to no avail.
Thus, I had to leave. I left JisuArt. I left my brand, whatever money there was left, sole-licensing to my work, tens of thousands of dollars of assets, 4 years of marketing and traveling, but most of all– I finally left them. After months of battling, once they finally realized that I was no longer under their grasp– they went full conservation mode. Their true sociopathic nature revealed itself as they seriously had nothing to say except for how much I screwed them over. Disgusting.
Imagine staying in this sort of situation because some guy owns a brand to draw smash pictures that aren't much different from your regular convention art:
Such a powerful brand. So powerful in fact that JisuArt renamed to just "Jisu", wow.
Twitlonger is the official platform of choice for esports personalities looking to make things worst. There's almost never anything good coming out of twitlonger for online personalities.
Let's back up and keep up with Sky Williams for a bit, looks like the group who lent him money are commiserating about it. It appears Sky Williams owes a confirmed total of 359000 dollars to a wide array of people over the span of 5 years. I don't know if that includes the original 200000 dollars from the IRS. But that 800000 dollars figure from earlier in the thread isn't off the mark.
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I found this old thread, has anyone combed through it yet given the current melting down of the Smash community?
Also, I like how even with Smash burned to the ground and Nintendo will now rightfully ignore them harder than ever, Melee fans will find a way to keep Melee alive.
Also, I like how even with Smash burned to the ground and Nintendo will now rightfully ignore them harder than ever, Melee fans will find a way to keep Melee alive.
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The gamecube's retarded controller scheme can finally die.
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It's so typical of every twitch thot and psychopath to take someones genuine struggles and pains, and make it about themselves. You have to be so fucked up in the head to pull this kind of victim card. I don't know how these faggots keep misunderstanding how to apologize on the internet. You address it, acknowledge your misconduct, dont bring anyone else into it, don't shift the blame, don't make excuses, just say sorry and leave the internet for a bit. It's not that fucking hard.
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Guy you were all wrong 
The next community to implode is the fire emblem community
A well known fire emblem youtuber is accused of sexual assault by multiples womens.
It's still hot some we might need to wait to get to the really juicy stuff but here are some tweets
First tweet longer
second one
Mangs is a huge fire emblem youtuber and the community is quite small so it's a huge blow
This is pure lolcow material tho
Here is his channel
go to his discord his you wanna see a nice dumpster fire from the inside you don't touch and don't be retarded tho
The next community to implode is the fire emblem community
A well known fire emblem youtuber is accused of sexual assault by multiples womens.
It's still hot some we might need to wait to get to the really juicy stuff but here are some tweets
First tweet longer
Mangs
There's no easy way to say this, and I never wanted it to come to this. I'm scared. I'm trembling at the thought of potentially harming the Fire Emblem community I cherish, but I know this is the best course of action for everyone. It's time to do what's right. No more secrets. I won't allow my voice to be quieted.
The truth is, Mangs manipulated me, and at Anime North last summer, he sexually assaulted me.
This is my story.
When I first started talking to him in 2016, he noticed my cosplay through Facebook. Immediately, I felt objectified since mostly everything he had to say was about my figure or physical appearance. He even offered to feature me on his channel at this point in time, but I declined. Normally, I either left him on read or replied with a brief “thank you” because he came off too strong for my taste, but I didn't think much of it.
Mangs urged me to delete all records of our Facebook messages, but I feared the day would come where I would have to share my experiences, so I have screenshots for the purpose of making this statement as objective and accurate as possible. Mangs shared some screenshots of our recent DMs on Twitter to prove his concern for my mental health, but he hasn't always spoken to me so courteously.
Coincidentally, Mangs found my Twitch channel when I was streaming FE7X. Recognizing me, he contacted me through Facebook again. We talked for a while and he seemed to have changed for the better. He offered to stream with me and then record FEH banner reviews shortly after. I was cautious because of how he communicated with me in the past, but after thinking it over, I agreed because a collaboration with Mangs would help my growth as a streamer.
From then on, things started pretty innocently; he would solicit selfies of me quite frequently. At the time, I was dating someone else who was supportive of my friendship with Mangs because he knew it would help me grow as a streamer. This took place before I launched my Patreon, so his encouragement in the form of compliments on my looks were a boost to my self-esteem and felt good. Over time, I warmed up to him, even sharing my own sexual experiences because I was feeling more comfortable around him. However, this gradually escalated to a point where I felt it was getting inappropriate and I asked him to stop, which he did.
During our planning for Anime North, we decided to split a hotel room - a very normal thing to do at a con, right? I suggested the cheapest room option, which happened to be a single bed, not thinking I'd be put in any danger. As our plans progressed, some panelists like Pavise and Chaz didn't have a hotel situation solidified yet, so I told them there was space in our room. It's not abnormal for 4 or 5 people to dogpile into a cramped hotel room at cons, and I figured something like this would be the case. Mangs was not on board with this, claiming it was due to his introverted personality, and not because he wanted to be alone with me.
https://i.imgur.com/2VYy6PX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lq4re0a.jpg
Between planning and the con I received this string of drunk messages:
https://i.imgur.com/xvN7Y8i.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ryWCIYF.jpg
Initially, I found these messages really funny and so did my boyfriend at the time, because his persona was always presented as a silly, horny dude who loves big tits. After a while though, it dawned on me that this dude literally said he wanted to fuck my tits, and I was to share a bed with him. I expressed my personal safety concern directly to Mangs, to which he replied:
https://i.imgur.com/SmsV18V.png
"I will not touch you at Anime North."
And so, I trusted him.
I think about this message a lot.
I expressed my concern to my mod Vanguard, who booked a 2-bed suite for my safety so I would have a bed for myself in case I felt uncomfortable again. We all hung out in this room for the majority of the weekend. Since Mangs missed his flight on Thursday, I stayed there. I slept in my room with Mangs Friday night, and everything went fine; we had fun, even. I remember us singing Heritors of Arcadia and sharing the progress of my PME. We slept a safe distance from each other on opposite sides of the king-sized bed.
Saturday morning, I was changing into my Nino cosplay while Mangs was in the bathroom. Mangs came in while I was changing without knocking or anything when he knew I was changing. He didn't see anything explicit, though. This could have been an accident and changing into an armored cosplay takes quite a bit of time, so I gave Mangs the benefit of the doubt.
Saturday night, I ended up falling asleep drunk in Vanguard's room again. Chaz asked Mangs to just let me sleep, but he woke me up anyway to take me back to his room. Concerned by his behavior, Chaz, Lucky Crit and Vanguard pulled me aside to talk to me in private while Mangs waited outside the room for me. I didn't have to go with Mangs, but I did. I felt guilty about refusing him. So, I went back with him, trusting that he would stick to his word and not touch me.
Sunday morning, I woke up being violated. I felt his dick pressed against my body. He was kissing my hair, rubbing my back and groaning. I remember this vividly.
Paralyzed in shock, I laid there in confusion. I pretended to wake up normally and took a shower. The rest of the con, I acted as if nothing happened.
Receipts of Mangs' various conflicting accounts of this event ranging from a sex dream, to a “misread”, to being half asleep, to just wanting to cuddle with a girl he’s attracted to.
https://i.imgur.com/lNNDfV8.png (Sex dream about someone else.)
https://i.imgur.com/kJVd6PW.png (Minimizing the event to touching my arm)
https://i.imgur.com/6vjmtnU.jpg (Half-asleep, and the “lesson” he has learned from all this)
https://i.imgur.com/mE86EkS.jpg (Not remembering the events and shifting partial blame onto me.)
https://i.imgur.com/r9NnNqE.jpg (Misreading me sleeping as an opportunity to cuddle. A “lapse of judgment” implies consciousness.)
It's difficult to understand what Mangs’ intentions were. He never seemed entirely honest from his side of things.
For context, the following conversation was around when the ProJared fiasco happened, and this was a joke. I don't recall him touching my boobs at all, but I was sleeping during part of this, so I can't confirm. I know it was a joke, but his dialogue here worried me.
https://i.imgur.com/x1MtLeY.png
In the spring, Mangs purchased some adult content from me. The next morning, he said he had done this when he was excessively drunk and felt extremely guilty. This is when he asked that we both clear our DM history. The night he bought these photos, he said something that makes me question whether or not this was an accident, although he has pleaded to me during calls (as recent as this past week) to believe him that he would never do such a thing on purpose:
https://i.imgur.com/Rm1eEvs.png
In addition to this, when we were walking around Toronto with Lucky Crit and Vanguard, I thought I felt a touch from behind on my butt. I remember looking over to Mangs, who was walking next to me, and he quickly looked away. Whether it was on accident or on purpose, I know what I felt. Vanguard witnessed this. Mangs offered to buy me a bra when we went to the mall with Vanguard before dropping him off at the airport, but I declined. As we said our goodbyes, he hugged me and whispered in my ear, “Come to Norway.”
Eventually, I worked up the courage to call and confront him seriously and firmly. I had always waffled a bit because I’m not a very confrontational person. I’m also afraid. He apologized to me despite claiming not to remember or intend any harm. I affirmed that whether or not it was conscious, his groping betrayed my trust and hurt me. He seemed genuinely remorseful, so I forgave him. Mangs made an effort to control himself, tried to bring our friendship back to normal, stopped any kind of sexual remarks, and dropped his Patreon subscription to $5 which doesn't include any lewd content. If he didn't placate my trauma like he did, I would've told my story sooner.
Although I thought that I had resolved this privately, I felt it eating away at me with every passing day as more upsetting stories emerged from within the gaming community. The weight of this slowly lifted as I came out to others within my wonderful support system and my therapist, which was a much needed reality check. It was not my fault. I need to stop being afraid.
Mangs’ tone would switch from a supportive friend to a manipulator so quickly that it put me into denial about his intentions in consoling me. When I told him I was going to come forward with my side of the story, he angrily told me he refused to allow himself to be branded as a sexual assailant. I wanted to comply because I valued our friendship as well as his career. I am not someone who goes back on a promise. But my promise to be honest with myself going forward is more important than a promise to someone who abused me.
I deserved better from Mangs, and I deserve to be heard.
There's no easy way to say this, and I never wanted it to come to this. I'm scared. I'm trembling at the thought of potentially harming the Fire Emblem community I cherish, but I know this is the best course of action for everyone. It's time to do what's right. No more secrets. I won't allow my voice to be quieted.
The truth is, Mangs manipulated me, and at Anime North last summer, he sexually assaulted me.
This is my story.
When I first started talking to him in 2016, he noticed my cosplay through Facebook. Immediately, I felt objectified since mostly everything he had to say was about my figure or physical appearance. He even offered to feature me on his channel at this point in time, but I declined. Normally, I either left him on read or replied with a brief “thank you” because he came off too strong for my taste, but I didn't think much of it.
Mangs urged me to delete all records of our Facebook messages, but I feared the day would come where I would have to share my experiences, so I have screenshots for the purpose of making this statement as objective and accurate as possible. Mangs shared some screenshots of our recent DMs on Twitter to prove his concern for my mental health, but he hasn't always spoken to me so courteously.
Coincidentally, Mangs found my Twitch channel when I was streaming FE7X. Recognizing me, he contacted me through Facebook again. We talked for a while and he seemed to have changed for the better. He offered to stream with me and then record FEH banner reviews shortly after. I was cautious because of how he communicated with me in the past, but after thinking it over, I agreed because a collaboration with Mangs would help my growth as a streamer.
From then on, things started pretty innocently; he would solicit selfies of me quite frequently. At the time, I was dating someone else who was supportive of my friendship with Mangs because he knew it would help me grow as a streamer. This took place before I launched my Patreon, so his encouragement in the form of compliments on my looks were a boost to my self-esteem and felt good. Over time, I warmed up to him, even sharing my own sexual experiences because I was feeling more comfortable around him. However, this gradually escalated to a point where I felt it was getting inappropriate and I asked him to stop, which he did.
During our planning for Anime North, we decided to split a hotel room - a very normal thing to do at a con, right? I suggested the cheapest room option, which happened to be a single bed, not thinking I'd be put in any danger. As our plans progressed, some panelists like Pavise and Chaz didn't have a hotel situation solidified yet, so I told them there was space in our room. It's not abnormal for 4 or 5 people to dogpile into a cramped hotel room at cons, and I figured something like this would be the case. Mangs was not on board with this, claiming it was due to his introverted personality, and not because he wanted to be alone with me.
https://i.imgur.com/2VYy6PX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lq4re0a.jpg
Between planning and the con I received this string of drunk messages:
https://i.imgur.com/xvN7Y8i.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ryWCIYF.jpg
Initially, I found these messages really funny and so did my boyfriend at the time, because his persona was always presented as a silly, horny dude who loves big tits. After a while though, it dawned on me that this dude literally said he wanted to fuck my tits, and I was to share a bed with him. I expressed my personal safety concern directly to Mangs, to which he replied:
https://i.imgur.com/SmsV18V.png
"I will not touch you at Anime North."
And so, I trusted him.
I think about this message a lot.
I expressed my concern to my mod Vanguard, who booked a 2-bed suite for my safety so I would have a bed for myself in case I felt uncomfortable again. We all hung out in this room for the majority of the weekend. Since Mangs missed his flight on Thursday, I stayed there. I slept in my room with Mangs Friday night, and everything went fine; we had fun, even. I remember us singing Heritors of Arcadia and sharing the progress of my PME. We slept a safe distance from each other on opposite sides of the king-sized bed.
Saturday morning, I was changing into my Nino cosplay while Mangs was in the bathroom. Mangs came in while I was changing without knocking or anything when he knew I was changing. He didn't see anything explicit, though. This could have been an accident and changing into an armored cosplay takes quite a bit of time, so I gave Mangs the benefit of the doubt.
Saturday night, I ended up falling asleep drunk in Vanguard's room again. Chaz asked Mangs to just let me sleep, but he woke me up anyway to take me back to his room. Concerned by his behavior, Chaz, Lucky Crit and Vanguard pulled me aside to talk to me in private while Mangs waited outside the room for me. I didn't have to go with Mangs, but I did. I felt guilty about refusing him. So, I went back with him, trusting that he would stick to his word and not touch me.
Sunday morning, I woke up being violated. I felt his dick pressed against my body. He was kissing my hair, rubbing my back and groaning. I remember this vividly.
Paralyzed in shock, I laid there in confusion. I pretended to wake up normally and took a shower. The rest of the con, I acted as if nothing happened.
Receipts of Mangs' various conflicting accounts of this event ranging from a sex dream, to a “misread”, to being half asleep, to just wanting to cuddle with a girl he’s attracted to.
https://i.imgur.com/lNNDfV8.png (Sex dream about someone else.)
https://i.imgur.com/kJVd6PW.png (Minimizing the event to touching my arm)
https://i.imgur.com/6vjmtnU.jpg (Half-asleep, and the “lesson” he has learned from all this)
https://i.imgur.com/mE86EkS.jpg (Not remembering the events and shifting partial blame onto me.)
https://i.imgur.com/r9NnNqE.jpg (Misreading me sleeping as an opportunity to cuddle. A “lapse of judgment” implies consciousness.)
It's difficult to understand what Mangs’ intentions were. He never seemed entirely honest from his side of things.
For context, the following conversation was around when the ProJared fiasco happened, and this was a joke. I don't recall him touching my boobs at all, but I was sleeping during part of this, so I can't confirm. I know it was a joke, but his dialogue here worried me.
https://i.imgur.com/x1MtLeY.png
In the spring, Mangs purchased some adult content from me. The next morning, he said he had done this when he was excessively drunk and felt extremely guilty. This is when he asked that we both clear our DM history. The night he bought these photos, he said something that makes me question whether or not this was an accident, although he has pleaded to me during calls (as recent as this past week) to believe him that he would never do such a thing on purpose:
https://i.imgur.com/Rm1eEvs.png
In addition to this, when we were walking around Toronto with Lucky Crit and Vanguard, I thought I felt a touch from behind on my butt. I remember looking over to Mangs, who was walking next to me, and he quickly looked away. Whether it was on accident or on purpose, I know what I felt. Vanguard witnessed this. Mangs offered to buy me a bra when we went to the mall with Vanguard before dropping him off at the airport, but I declined. As we said our goodbyes, he hugged me and whispered in my ear, “Come to Norway.”
Eventually, I worked up the courage to call and confront him seriously and firmly. I had always waffled a bit because I’m not a very confrontational person. I’m also afraid. He apologized to me despite claiming not to remember or intend any harm. I affirmed that whether or not it was conscious, his groping betrayed my trust and hurt me. He seemed genuinely remorseful, so I forgave him. Mangs made an effort to control himself, tried to bring our friendship back to normal, stopped any kind of sexual remarks, and dropped his Patreon subscription to $5 which doesn't include any lewd content. If he didn't placate my trauma like he did, I would've told my story sooner.
Although I thought that I had resolved this privately, I felt it eating away at me with every passing day as more upsetting stories emerged from within the gaming community. The weight of this slowly lifted as I came out to others within my wonderful support system and my therapist, which was a much needed reality check. It was not my fault. I need to stop being afraid.
Mangs’ tone would switch from a supportive friend to a manipulator so quickly that it put me into denial about his intentions in consoling me. When I told him I was going to come forward with my side of the story, he angrily told me he refused to allow himself to be branded as a sexual assailant. I wanted to comply because I valued our friendship as well as his career. I am not someone who goes back on a promise. But my promise to be honest with myself going forward is more important than a promise to someone who abused me.
I deserved better from Mangs, and I deserve to be heard.
second one
I no longer accept Mangs's apology. This is my story.
I’m getting straight to the point. Mangs used his influence as a popular Fire Emblem YouTuber to manipulate and coerce me into sending him suggestive photos. He groomed me into sending him more suggestive photos as time went on, and verbally abused me when I spoke out to my friends. He apologized a year later and promised to change, but it’s clear now that he hasn’t done that at all. And that’s why I’m coming forward.
-EVIDENCE-
Putting this right at the start so no one has any doubts about this. In my opinion, the evidence speaks for itself. I now feel safe to come forward with all the evidence I have, joining the voices of so many in the gaming community who have dealt with sexual harassment, assault and abuse- but most importantly, because of Goosaphone’s courage in speaking out about her experiences and the support she received from the FEtuber community.
Below is a link to the text logs of our entire conversation, from start to finish. I encourage you to read all of it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aTlc63M1glgm4V92giIoDRxfAr1GdFmp/view?usp=sharing
I have a few Skype screenshots as well, which are also linked below. They will be posted again in this document as part of my story if you choose to read it. Some of these screenshots have been posted before, sometimes in Ft. Mangs on Facebook and sometimes Discord- so they may be familiar to some of you.
*September 2016*
Logs that were shared previously:
https://imgur.com/a/g8P9j1B
https://imgur.com/a/EUD6Vw7
https://imgur.com/a/V9szc5N
Logs that have not yet been shared:
https://imgur.com/a/6GGPpTl
https://imgur.com/a/guMd9Oq
https://imgur.com/a/BU4eFMq
Part of my convo with lovelylatias, another girl who was part of the “Mangs Harem”:
https://imgur.com/a/ZszC5Ga
*June 2017*
Mangs reaching out to me again:
https://imgur.com/a/mygBI9q
I contacted lovelylatias to find out why he wanted to speak to me, and this is what Mangs passed on:
https://imgur.com/a/t8K5Nmg
Our conversation after accepting his friend request:
https://imgur.com/a/Z69InVq
I had shared the logs with the second blacked out name, a friend who I trusted. He shared it with another friend, someone who later broke his trust- this was how the logs got out.
*August 2017*
Masoneliwood’s tweet calling out Mangs:
https://imgur.com/a/FAjy2ld
My replies in which I told my story, though without posting the logs:
https://twitter.com/tomefaired/status/893870795033915392
This led to a Reddit thread, linked in the imgur album below, where Mangs (and Mekkah, though he served as a neutral third party here) admitted the logs are real. You can also view these live on this web archive linked below. However, you will need to stop the page from loading partway through, otherwise the page will disappear. I have no idea why it does this, but the page is still intact. I suggest reading my story for further context on the Reddit thread.
https://imgur.com/a/Bkw6oIk
https://web.archive.org/web/2019011...omments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/
In the current version of the page, Mangs has deleted his apology:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/dl8zmpc/?context=3
https://imgur.com/a/dUpgIOM
You can make your own judgments from here and stop reading if you wish. Here is my account of what happened.
________________________________________________
-HOW IT BEGAN-
4 years ago, in September of 2016, while participating in Mangs’s Corrinquest playthrough, he asked for “the ladies” to add him on Skype. Mangs was 27. I was new to the Fire Emblem fandom at the time so I was looking for role models. And I’d rarely seen content creators actively reach out to their audience in such a direct way, offering one-on-one conversations. I knew that Mangs was very much interested in the sexual aspects of women’s bodies, but I thought I could look past that if it meant I could talk about Fire Emblem with him.
I was 19 years old, just starting my sophomore year of college. It was my first time living in a dorm by myself, away from my parents. I was emotionally immature and I was in a very vulnerable place in my life. I was also dealing with the effects of compulsory heterosexuality- in other words, I felt like I had to have some kind of attraction to men because society expected it of me, despite identifying as a lesbian and having a supportive family. I’d also dated men before coming out, which only added to this feeling of doubt.
One of the first things that Mangs noted when I posted a selfie was that I looked younger than my actual age. I didn’t question Mangs thinking I was 16 because people in real life, including family and friends, often said that about me; and I was actually proud of this fact, since it allowed me to be more flexible with cosplays. (search “cuteness” in the logs, first result)
While my priority was to get to know a Fire Emblem content creator and talk about our interests, Mangs had other ideas. He would constantly ask me for suggestive pictures, asking me to wear clothes that showed off my breasts and ass. This was the only way that he would actually talk about Fire Emblem or anything normal with me. Pics first, conversations later. It felt like he didn’t care about my interests or me trying to talk about Fire Emblem with him. He would just give short answers before asking for more pictures. I liked the compliments, they made me feel good about myself. There was always this underlying feeling that the conversations felt wrong, but I continued talking with him because he was a popular Fire Emblem YouTuber, and I liked the gratification of talking to someone with that amount of influence in the community. At first, this was simply Mangs asking for pics, but as he normalized the “pics for conversations” transactions, manipulating me into accepting it, I sometimes ended up initiating, as you can see in the second screenshot. We could then talk about normal things from there, once he was finished commenting on my body.
https://imgur.com/a/g8P9j1B
https://imgur.com/a/6GGPpTl
The “conversations” (if you can call them that) kept going for a while. Mangs eventually set up a point system for the photos which he called “Mangs Points”. I could trade these in for voice chats and other things, depending on how suggestive the picture was. This included my character “Silver” being revived in Corrinquest, as the last screenshot shows:
https://imgur.com/a/guMd9Oq
https://imgur.com/a/EUD6Vw7
https://imgur.com/a/BU4eFMq
I had no idea how far this system went or how many “points” I even earned. I was skeptical. It seemed like an excuse to get me to send more photos, but the rewards were promising, if he intended on delivering on them- Mangs can clarify that himself if he chooses. Mangs and I talked about me being part of a “Mangs Harem”; there was one other girl who I know was part of it with me. She went by lovelylatias, though I referred to her as “Riviere'' in the text logs (the name of her Corrin in the stream). She was around the same age as me. Mangs claimed that lovelylatias had a lot of “Mangs Points” which expressed the intent to set up some kind of competition between myself and her. This is part of my conversation with lovelylatias proving this, where I expressed my skepticism, but my intention to keep going:
https://imgur.com/a/ZszC5Ga
To my knowledge, lovelylatias later ended up dating Mangs. I hold nothing against her and I considered her a friend during the brief period of time that we talked, even congratulating her when I learned she was dating him.
I also felt pressured to lie about my sexual orientation in order to get Mangs to keep talking to me. By this point it was clear to me that he only answered to pics. So when he asked me in the middle of a normal conversation, “are you attracted to guys?” I was shaking. (Relevant part in the logs: search “Emmeryn”) I said I was bi, but “not normally” attracted to guys. I mentioned the boy I dated in the past as proof of this. As mentioned before, the fact that I dated this boy in the past was still causing me to doubt my lesbian identity, despite having broken up with him after coming out.
One pic Mangs asked me for frequently was a bra pic, which he said would earn me a lot of “Mangs Points”. I resisted for as long as I could but I eventually caved. I was afraid that if I didn’t send it, he’d stop talking to me and I wouldn’t have that kind of contact in the community anymore. But that didn’t change the fact that I felt disgusting for doing it.
Eventually I grew sick of this, wanting to find a way out. It was clear that I wasn’t going to get actual conversations from him like I had originally wanted. I was constantly fearful that if I didn’t sever ties properly, Mangs would get angry at me and do something with my photos. And if I told him upfront, I was afraid he would accuse me of leading him along. The stress was so overwhelming, and I posted some of the screenshots on my Tumblr so my friends could see what was going on. At the time I only had 13 followers. I had shown Mangs my Tumblr before, so that’s likely how he found out about it (though he claimed it was from a fan). But it wasn’t going to reach a whole lot of people, I had only posted it there for my friends who followed me on it. This was Mangs’s response before we blocked each other.
https://imgur.com/a/V9szc5N
He used demeaning and manipulative language towards me. I wasn’t trying to spite him or defame him. I wasn’t jealous of lovelylatias at all; I was a lesbian who didn’t feel any attraction towards men. I just wanted to get my frustrations out there because I was scared, and I wanted to let his actions speak for themselves for the few people who got to see my Tumblr post. He brought up the possibility of spreading the logs around, that the only reason he wouldn’t do it was because he wasn’t “a fucking idiot”. He made me feel guilty for speaking out, and tried to make me think that I was in the wrong, planting the idea of blackmail inside my mind. (Search “douchebag” in the logs) Even as I was preparing this very statement, I feared that he somehow still had the photos and would use them to harm me in some way. I unfriended him, trying to imagine if it could ever have been resolved amicably, and we parted ways.
-SPREADING OF LOGS-
In June of 2017, almost a year later, I was greeted with this.
https://imgur.com/a/mygBI9q
I was nervous, to say the least. I decided to reach out to lovelylatias to find out why Mangs wanted to contact me, and she sent me this message from him:
https://imgur.com/a/t8K5Nmg
Notably, Mangs mentioned that he didn’t want me to be seen as some kind of “victim”, even though that was exactly what I felt happened to me at the time, and how I still felt before Mangs messaged me.
Between the time of the incident and June 2017, I had confided in my friend who I will call H. I shared the logs with H, trusting that they wouldn’t be shared with anyone dishonest or malicious. Unfortunately, this was not the case, and the screenshots were posted all over Ft. Mangs, both Facebook and Discord. I would have been perfectly okay with the logs being shared if it meant that I could talk to the people spreading them beforehand. I wanted to have control over how my story was told instead of the logs being posted with no context.
I accepted Mangs’s friend request and talked it out, having already been briefed on the situation from his message via lovelylatias. He mentions my friend H here. Mangs is very much concerned with people “bringing him down” by making his manipulative behavior public:
https://imgur.com/a/Z69InVq
I expressed disapproval about the logs being spread around, repeating almost verbatim what Mangs said in his message via lovelylatias. I didn’t want to be used as a pawn for people to attack Mangs for the sake of it, since it would invite more harassment towards me, and the logs were also being posted without context. Considering how angry he was when I just posted them to my extremely small Tumblr account, I was genuinely afraid to see what would happen if the logs were shared around again, even if by my own hand. So I was determined to make sure they wouldn’t be spread anymore. This was how he manipulated me into not wanting to share the logs, and downplaying what happened to me.
In August of the same year, Twitter user masoneliwood made this tweet about Mangs:
https://imgur.com/a/FAjy2ld
I decided to share my story in the thread because I didn’t want masoneliwood, my mutual, to feel alone in his thoughts on Mangs. I was still of the mindset of not wanting to share the logs thanks to Mangs though, so it was understandable that people would be skeptical of my story. I hold nothing against those who were respectful in their skepticism. My comments are still visible and I have no plans to take them down. I was much more frustrated here than I sound right now because the incident happened around a year ago.
https://twitter.com/tomefaired/status/893870795033915392
After this Twitter thread got spread around, a Reddit thread was made inquiring about the claims. Mekkah reached out to me over Discord and asked me about what I experienced. He then gave his interpretation of the events.
https://web.archive.org/web/2019011...omments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/
I have always believed that Mekkah’s statement here did not accurately represent what happened:
“Mangs’s behavior was toxic and creepy, but it was not blackmail or coercion”
It wasn’t blackmail, but it was certainly coercive. And I never saw it as a simple “flirt” either, considering my intentions to simply talk to him about normal things from the very beginning of our conversation.
I don’t hold anything against Mekkah for this though, and I appreciate the fact that he tried to get my side of the story.
In fact, he was perfectly willing to cut ties if Mangs’s behavior was as bad as the rumors were saying. At the time I just wanted the community to calm down so I could stop receiving harassment. Mekkah came into the conversation hoping that things were not as bad as rumored. This was the first time I had ever spoken to Mekkah. I was also still remembering Mangs's frustration with the logs being spread around, insistent that I wasn't a victim. So these feelings played out when I described the events to Mekkah, downplaying what happened to me. Thus, my initial tweets on the matter were my raw feelings before I felt the pressure to placate the situation. Note that I never sent the full chat logs to Mekkah out of pressure from Mangs's conversation with me, so he didn't get the full story from start to finish.
After Mekkah's post, Mangs then apologized to me. He acknowledged that the logs being spread around were real, and that he wasn’t using his power and platform responsibly. I wanted to believe then that his apology was genuine since he acknowledged the abuse of power in that situation, but I also wanted this ordeal to be over and the harassment to end. Part of me was still hoping for a moment when I could feel safe posting all the evidence on my own terms, and that time is now.
Because if you look at the webpage now, Mangs’s apology is gone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/dl8zmpc/?context=3
My comment is still there, as well as Mangs thanking me for accepting the apology he later deleted. https://imgur.com/a/dUpgIOM
If Mangs truly cared about taking responsibility and being more careful with his platform and influence going forward, he would not have deleted his apology. And it’s clear that he didn’t mean a word he said in his apology, because he went on to behave similarly towards Goose. After 4 years, his behavior towards women is still manipulative, deceitful and exploitative. This is why I am coming forward again, to make sure that people are aware that Mangs’s actions towards Goose represent a pattern of behavior and not an isolated incident, as well as spreading awareness about his behavior to those in the Fire Emblem community. I don’t want anyone else to be hurt, and I don’t intend to “cancel” Mangs, either. I also have no interest in communicating with Mangs in an effort to “resolve” things again. By sharing my story once more I am considering it resolved. I have found a loving, supportive community and I’m not looking back.
What you decide to do from here is up to you.
I’m getting straight to the point. Mangs used his influence as a popular Fire Emblem YouTuber to manipulate and coerce me into sending him suggestive photos. He groomed me into sending him more suggestive photos as time went on, and verbally abused me when I spoke out to my friends. He apologized a year later and promised to change, but it’s clear now that he hasn’t done that at all. And that’s why I’m coming forward.
-EVIDENCE-
Putting this right at the start so no one has any doubts about this. In my opinion, the evidence speaks for itself. I now feel safe to come forward with all the evidence I have, joining the voices of so many in the gaming community who have dealt with sexual harassment, assault and abuse- but most importantly, because of Goosaphone’s courage in speaking out about her experiences and the support she received from the FEtuber community.
Below is a link to the text logs of our entire conversation, from start to finish. I encourage you to read all of it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aTlc63M1glgm4V92giIoDRxfAr1GdFmp/view?usp=sharing
I have a few Skype screenshots as well, which are also linked below. They will be posted again in this document as part of my story if you choose to read it. Some of these screenshots have been posted before, sometimes in Ft. Mangs on Facebook and sometimes Discord- so they may be familiar to some of you.
*September 2016*
Logs that were shared previously:
https://imgur.com/a/g8P9j1B
https://imgur.com/a/EUD6Vw7
https://imgur.com/a/V9szc5N
Logs that have not yet been shared:
https://imgur.com/a/6GGPpTl
https://imgur.com/a/guMd9Oq
https://imgur.com/a/BU4eFMq
Part of my convo with lovelylatias, another girl who was part of the “Mangs Harem”:
https://imgur.com/a/ZszC5Ga
*June 2017*
Mangs reaching out to me again:
https://imgur.com/a/mygBI9q
I contacted lovelylatias to find out why he wanted to speak to me, and this is what Mangs passed on:
https://imgur.com/a/t8K5Nmg
Our conversation after accepting his friend request:
https://imgur.com/a/Z69InVq
I had shared the logs with the second blacked out name, a friend who I trusted. He shared it with another friend, someone who later broke his trust- this was how the logs got out.
*August 2017*
Masoneliwood’s tweet calling out Mangs:
https://imgur.com/a/FAjy2ld
My replies in which I told my story, though without posting the logs:
https://twitter.com/tomefaired/status/893870795033915392
This led to a Reddit thread, linked in the imgur album below, where Mangs (and Mekkah, though he served as a neutral third party here) admitted the logs are real. You can also view these live on this web archive linked below. However, you will need to stop the page from loading partway through, otherwise the page will disappear. I have no idea why it does this, but the page is still intact. I suggest reading my story for further context on the Reddit thread.
https://imgur.com/a/Bkw6oIk
https://web.archive.org/web/2019011...omments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/
In the current version of the page, Mangs has deleted his apology:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/dl8zmpc/?context=3
https://imgur.com/a/dUpgIOM
You can make your own judgments from here and stop reading if you wish. Here is my account of what happened.
________________________________________________
-HOW IT BEGAN-
4 years ago, in September of 2016, while participating in Mangs’s Corrinquest playthrough, he asked for “the ladies” to add him on Skype. Mangs was 27. I was new to the Fire Emblem fandom at the time so I was looking for role models. And I’d rarely seen content creators actively reach out to their audience in such a direct way, offering one-on-one conversations. I knew that Mangs was very much interested in the sexual aspects of women’s bodies, but I thought I could look past that if it meant I could talk about Fire Emblem with him.
I was 19 years old, just starting my sophomore year of college. It was my first time living in a dorm by myself, away from my parents. I was emotionally immature and I was in a very vulnerable place in my life. I was also dealing with the effects of compulsory heterosexuality- in other words, I felt like I had to have some kind of attraction to men because society expected it of me, despite identifying as a lesbian and having a supportive family. I’d also dated men before coming out, which only added to this feeling of doubt.
One of the first things that Mangs noted when I posted a selfie was that I looked younger than my actual age. I didn’t question Mangs thinking I was 16 because people in real life, including family and friends, often said that about me; and I was actually proud of this fact, since it allowed me to be more flexible with cosplays. (search “cuteness” in the logs, first result)
While my priority was to get to know a Fire Emblem content creator and talk about our interests, Mangs had other ideas. He would constantly ask me for suggestive pictures, asking me to wear clothes that showed off my breasts and ass. This was the only way that he would actually talk about Fire Emblem or anything normal with me. Pics first, conversations later. It felt like he didn’t care about my interests or me trying to talk about Fire Emblem with him. He would just give short answers before asking for more pictures. I liked the compliments, they made me feel good about myself. There was always this underlying feeling that the conversations felt wrong, but I continued talking with him because he was a popular Fire Emblem YouTuber, and I liked the gratification of talking to someone with that amount of influence in the community. At first, this was simply Mangs asking for pics, but as he normalized the “pics for conversations” transactions, manipulating me into accepting it, I sometimes ended up initiating, as you can see in the second screenshot. We could then talk about normal things from there, once he was finished commenting on my body.
https://imgur.com/a/g8P9j1B
https://imgur.com/a/6GGPpTl
The “conversations” (if you can call them that) kept going for a while. Mangs eventually set up a point system for the photos which he called “Mangs Points”. I could trade these in for voice chats and other things, depending on how suggestive the picture was. This included my character “Silver” being revived in Corrinquest, as the last screenshot shows:
https://imgur.com/a/guMd9Oq
https://imgur.com/a/EUD6Vw7
https://imgur.com/a/BU4eFMq
I had no idea how far this system went or how many “points” I even earned. I was skeptical. It seemed like an excuse to get me to send more photos, but the rewards were promising, if he intended on delivering on them- Mangs can clarify that himself if he chooses. Mangs and I talked about me being part of a “Mangs Harem”; there was one other girl who I know was part of it with me. She went by lovelylatias, though I referred to her as “Riviere'' in the text logs (the name of her Corrin in the stream). She was around the same age as me. Mangs claimed that lovelylatias had a lot of “Mangs Points” which expressed the intent to set up some kind of competition between myself and her. This is part of my conversation with lovelylatias proving this, where I expressed my skepticism, but my intention to keep going:
https://imgur.com/a/ZszC5Ga
To my knowledge, lovelylatias later ended up dating Mangs. I hold nothing against her and I considered her a friend during the brief period of time that we talked, even congratulating her when I learned she was dating him.
I also felt pressured to lie about my sexual orientation in order to get Mangs to keep talking to me. By this point it was clear to me that he only answered to pics. So when he asked me in the middle of a normal conversation, “are you attracted to guys?” I was shaking. (Relevant part in the logs: search “Emmeryn”) I said I was bi, but “not normally” attracted to guys. I mentioned the boy I dated in the past as proof of this. As mentioned before, the fact that I dated this boy in the past was still causing me to doubt my lesbian identity, despite having broken up with him after coming out.
One pic Mangs asked me for frequently was a bra pic, which he said would earn me a lot of “Mangs Points”. I resisted for as long as I could but I eventually caved. I was afraid that if I didn’t send it, he’d stop talking to me and I wouldn’t have that kind of contact in the community anymore. But that didn’t change the fact that I felt disgusting for doing it.
Eventually I grew sick of this, wanting to find a way out. It was clear that I wasn’t going to get actual conversations from him like I had originally wanted. I was constantly fearful that if I didn’t sever ties properly, Mangs would get angry at me and do something with my photos. And if I told him upfront, I was afraid he would accuse me of leading him along. The stress was so overwhelming, and I posted some of the screenshots on my Tumblr so my friends could see what was going on. At the time I only had 13 followers. I had shown Mangs my Tumblr before, so that’s likely how he found out about it (though he claimed it was from a fan). But it wasn’t going to reach a whole lot of people, I had only posted it there for my friends who followed me on it. This was Mangs’s response before we blocked each other.
https://imgur.com/a/V9szc5N
He used demeaning and manipulative language towards me. I wasn’t trying to spite him or defame him. I wasn’t jealous of lovelylatias at all; I was a lesbian who didn’t feel any attraction towards men. I just wanted to get my frustrations out there because I was scared, and I wanted to let his actions speak for themselves for the few people who got to see my Tumblr post. He brought up the possibility of spreading the logs around, that the only reason he wouldn’t do it was because he wasn’t “a fucking idiot”. He made me feel guilty for speaking out, and tried to make me think that I was in the wrong, planting the idea of blackmail inside my mind. (Search “douchebag” in the logs) Even as I was preparing this very statement, I feared that he somehow still had the photos and would use them to harm me in some way. I unfriended him, trying to imagine if it could ever have been resolved amicably, and we parted ways.
-SPREADING OF LOGS-
In June of 2017, almost a year later, I was greeted with this.
https://imgur.com/a/mygBI9q
I was nervous, to say the least. I decided to reach out to lovelylatias to find out why Mangs wanted to contact me, and she sent me this message from him:
https://imgur.com/a/t8K5Nmg
Notably, Mangs mentioned that he didn’t want me to be seen as some kind of “victim”, even though that was exactly what I felt happened to me at the time, and how I still felt before Mangs messaged me.
Between the time of the incident and June 2017, I had confided in my friend who I will call H. I shared the logs with H, trusting that they wouldn’t be shared with anyone dishonest or malicious. Unfortunately, this was not the case, and the screenshots were posted all over Ft. Mangs, both Facebook and Discord. I would have been perfectly okay with the logs being shared if it meant that I could talk to the people spreading them beforehand. I wanted to have control over how my story was told instead of the logs being posted with no context.
I accepted Mangs’s friend request and talked it out, having already been briefed on the situation from his message via lovelylatias. He mentions my friend H here. Mangs is very much concerned with people “bringing him down” by making his manipulative behavior public:
https://imgur.com/a/Z69InVq
I expressed disapproval about the logs being spread around, repeating almost verbatim what Mangs said in his message via lovelylatias. I didn’t want to be used as a pawn for people to attack Mangs for the sake of it, since it would invite more harassment towards me, and the logs were also being posted without context. Considering how angry he was when I just posted them to my extremely small Tumblr account, I was genuinely afraid to see what would happen if the logs were shared around again, even if by my own hand. So I was determined to make sure they wouldn’t be spread anymore. This was how he manipulated me into not wanting to share the logs, and downplaying what happened to me.
In August of the same year, Twitter user masoneliwood made this tweet about Mangs:
https://imgur.com/a/FAjy2ld
I decided to share my story in the thread because I didn’t want masoneliwood, my mutual, to feel alone in his thoughts on Mangs. I was still of the mindset of not wanting to share the logs thanks to Mangs though, so it was understandable that people would be skeptical of my story. I hold nothing against those who were respectful in their skepticism. My comments are still visible and I have no plans to take them down. I was much more frustrated here than I sound right now because the incident happened around a year ago.
https://twitter.com/tomefaired/status/893870795033915392
After this Twitter thread got spread around, a Reddit thread was made inquiring about the claims. Mekkah reached out to me over Discord and asked me about what I experienced. He then gave his interpretation of the events.
https://web.archive.org/web/2019011...omments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/
I have always believed that Mekkah’s statement here did not accurately represent what happened:
“Mangs’s behavior was toxic and creepy, but it was not blackmail or coercion”
It wasn’t blackmail, but it was certainly coercive. And I never saw it as a simple “flirt” either, considering my intentions to simply talk to him about normal things from the very beginning of our conversation.
I don’t hold anything against Mekkah for this though, and I appreciate the fact that he tried to get my side of the story.
In fact, he was perfectly willing to cut ties if Mangs’s behavior was as bad as the rumors were saying. At the time I just wanted the community to calm down so I could stop receiving harassment. Mekkah came into the conversation hoping that things were not as bad as rumored. This was the first time I had ever spoken to Mekkah. I was also still remembering Mangs's frustration with the logs being spread around, insistent that I wasn't a victim. So these feelings played out when I described the events to Mekkah, downplaying what happened to me. Thus, my initial tweets on the matter were my raw feelings before I felt the pressure to placate the situation. Note that I never sent the full chat logs to Mekkah out of pressure from Mangs's conversation with me, so he didn't get the full story from start to finish.
After Mekkah's post, Mangs then apologized to me. He acknowledged that the logs being spread around were real, and that he wasn’t using his power and platform responsibly. I wanted to believe then that his apology was genuine since he acknowledged the abuse of power in that situation, but I also wanted this ordeal to be over and the harassment to end. Part of me was still hoping for a moment when I could feel safe posting all the evidence on my own terms, and that time is now.
Because if you look at the webpage now, Mangs’s apology is gone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/6rz6st/about_the_accusation_of_mangs/dl8zmpc/?context=3
My comment is still there, as well as Mangs thanking me for accepting the apology he later deleted. https://imgur.com/a/dUpgIOM
If Mangs truly cared about taking responsibility and being more careful with his platform and influence going forward, he would not have deleted his apology. And it’s clear that he didn’t mean a word he said in his apology, because he went on to behave similarly towards Goose. After 4 years, his behavior towards women is still manipulative, deceitful and exploitative. This is why I am coming forward again, to make sure that people are aware that Mangs’s actions towards Goose represent a pattern of behavior and not an isolated incident, as well as spreading awareness about his behavior to those in the Fire Emblem community. I don’t want anyone else to be hurt, and I don’t intend to “cancel” Mangs, either. I also have no interest in communicating with Mangs in an effort to “resolve” things again. By sharing my story once more I am considering it resolved. I have found a loving, supportive community and I’m not looking back.
What you decide to do from here is up to you.
Mangs is a huge fire emblem youtuber and the community is quite small so it's a huge blow
This is pure lolcow material tho
Here is his channel
go to his discord his you wanna see a nice dumpster fire from the inside you don't touch and don't be retarded tho
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And after a friend of mine streamed an FE hack themed after this guy, how sad. Man, it's times like this that makes Nintendo iron fisted bat shittery understandable. Smash is cancelled, FE is going to be cancelled (for whatever it is worth) and Pokemon community as discussed here has such finely woven demons that it would take a miracle for the stories to break to main stream.