U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[AnOminous]

Still, the Democrats reckon that if they can prove that America is a horribly systematically racist place where cops who murder innocent black people get let off they'll get the White House. Hence the overcharging.

I think there may be enough reasonable doubt that Chauvin's actions even caused Floyd's death. That's going to be a real problem for the prosecution. Maybe there are more detailed findings than the autopsy results we've seen but they have him at well over a lethal dose of fentanyl and that's not including everything else. If they aren't arrogant they'll also include some kind of aggravated assault charge for if they can't prove Floyd hadn't already OD'd fatally. But Ellison is arrogant. And I could see him fumbling the medical testimony badly.

I could see them trying to use Michael Baden's expert testimony to bolster what looks like pretty weak forensic evidence so far. I'm not sure about the logistics of using a family-hired mercenary medical expert retained to produce whatever they're going to use in the civil suit to contradict their own medical examiner but they'll probably have to try to do it.

There are all kinds of morbidly funny things about this, like them having to argue that despite him having all these drugs in him which would have killed a normal person, he was such a total druggie that this was just his normal day. I mean that argument looks great.

 

[Puff]

Yeah, I do. It's 5000 in PA and probably in other states too. And he has to get it done before a deadline, which he's already missed in 4 states.

https://www.newsweek.com/kanye-west...llot-deadline-texas-new-york-illinois-1515678
https://archive.vn/wip/ktSdK



There's a list of deadlines and signature requirements here

https://ballotpedia.org/Deadline_to_run_for_president
https://archive.vn/wip/g297j

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Look at FL - 130K, CA 196K and AZ 37K. Also there's a bunch of states coming up with filing deadlines on the 15th.

I think he's disorganized and has no chance of getting on the ballot in enough states to make a difference. I doubt he'll even try.

In Florida, he's got until the 15th to get 132,781 signatures. That's 7 days. He needs to average 18,968 signatures a day, 7 days a week. Right now he's got no one on the ground anywhere in the US even trying to get signatures.

5000 write in's for him could make a hell of a difference though.

 

[DumbDude42]

5000 write in's for him could make a hell of a difference though.

kanye is crazy enough that i could actually see him do a campaign while going "fuck ballots, everybody should just vote for me via write-in!"
it would be hilarious to see the reactions to that, especially on the left

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

kanye is crazy enough that i could actually see him do a campaign while going "fuck ballots, everybody should just vote for me via write-in!"
it would be hilarious to see the reactions to that, especially on the left

In my jurisdiction if you write in a candidate who didn't register as a candidate in the state, it doesn't count, It looks like all but 9 states states either require the candidate to register as a candidate or are "never allowed" for write in.

 

[DumbDude42]

In my jurisdiction if you write in a candidate who didn't register as a candidate in the state, it doesn't count, It looks like all but 9 states states either require the candidate to register as a candidate or are "never allowed" for write in.

what? you're telling me my 2016 write-in of harambe for president wasn't actually valid?

 

[LaxerBRO]

I think there may be enough reasonable doubt that Chauvin's actions even caused Floyd's death. That's going to be a real problem for the prosecution. Maybe there are more detailed findings than the autopsy results we've seen but they have him at well over a lethal dose of fentanyl and that's not including everything else. If they aren't arrogant they'll also include some kind of aggravated assault charge for if they can't prove Floyd hadn't already OD'd fatally. But Ellison is arrogant. And I could see him fumbling the medical testimony badly.

I could see them trying to use Michael Baden's expert testimony to bolster what looks like pretty weak forensic evidence so far. I'm not sure about the logistics of using a family-hired mercenary medical expert retained to produce whatever they're going to use in the civil suit to contradict their own medical examiner but they'll probably have to try to do it.

There are all kinds of morbidly funny things about this, like them having to argue that despite him having all these drugs in him which would have killed a normal person, he was such a total druggie that this was just his normal day. I mean that argument looks great.

This former cop and DA investigator sets up a pretty good argument on why he believes it will be Not Guilty on Murder.

 

[AnOminous]

This former cop and DA investigator sets up a pretty good argument on why he believes it will be Not Guilty on Murder.

This will probably cause riots again even if the trial literally proves him at least innocent of murder, because the media only says absolute garbage promoting this shit as if it's some kind of slam dunk case. It is a weak ass murder case.

 

[MrJokerRager]

GEOTUS is live with the commie that runs Mehico

Where does Trump find all these waifus and milfs to join congress. He is bringing Miss America to Congress.

 

[feelingabitemu]

Former officer Thomas Lane's attorney seeks dismissal of charges in George Floyd killing

Transcripts of body-worn camera footage from the night George Floyd was killed and of an interview with one of the officers at the scene were also filed in court.

www.startribune.com

http://archive.md/uKe3X

this seems bad for the prosecution



Maybe big Floyd didn't want to do the big gay in the back of a cop car because he had chinkaids.

Now from what has been produced it's almost, almost, as if everyone involved had to make a judgement call in how to handle Big Floyd and none of this was intentional ...

... it's also almost as if two rookies looked for guidance from more experienced cops, and it all just went tragically wrong in a way none of them anticipated.

 

[deeplyhigh]

A local news article has more of the body cam transcript and a copy of the motion filed to dismiss. I’m trying to get the rest of the filing but the court records website is getting slammed.

Photos from inside Floyd’s car were also released, including two where there are two more counterfeit $20s crumpled up.

 

[ErrForceOnez]

A local news article has more of the body cam transcript and a copy of the motion filed to dismiss. I’m trying to get the rest of the filing but the court records website is getting slammed.

Photos from inside Floyd’s car were also released, including two where there are two more counterfeit $20s crumpled up.

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well I guess thats why they refused to release the bodycam footage.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I think there may be enough reasonable doubt that Chauvin's actions even caused Floyd's death. That's going to be a real problem for the prosecution.

Their best chance would be to try to claim that Chauvin should have turned him on his side and maybe hobbled him when he lost consciousness.

This former cop and DA investigator sets up a pretty good argument on why he believes it will be Not Guilty on Murder.

Interesting video. I wonder if Chauvin broke policy by not turning him on his side

Archive of the video

Also an archive of the Medium article

https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911
https://archive.vn/qWADV

 

[and 127 others]

Here’s a real nice source for the whole woke lexicon, mentioned in the Joe Rogan and James Lindsay podcast:

https://newdiscourses.com/translations-from-the-wokish/

https://archive.li/XAKm9

 

[Evilronald]

I think there may be enough reasonable doubt that Chauvin's actions even caused Floyd's death. That's going to be a real problem for the prosecution. Maybe there are more detailed findings than the autopsy results we've seen but they have him at well over a lethal dose of fentanyl and that's not including everything else. If they aren't arrogant they'll also include some kind of aggravated assault charge for if they can't prove Floyd hadn't already OD'd fatally. But Ellison is arrogant. And I could see him fumbling the medical testimony badly.

I could see them trying to use Michael Baden's expert testimony to bolster what looks like pretty weak forensic evidence so far. I'm not sure about the logistics of using a family-hired mercenary medical expert retained to produce whatever they're going to use in the civil suit to contradict their own medical examiner but they'll probably have to try to do it.

There are all kinds of morbidly funny things about this, like them having to argue that despite him having all these drugs in him which would have killed a normal person, he was such a total druggie that this was just his normal day. I mean that argument looks great.

The idea is to have Chauvin let off because they overcharged him and show how the justice system is “corrupt.” Petty crime is up 60 percent in the last few months, and I honestly can’t believe people aren’t fed up with all this coddling of criminals. As far as I’m concerned: if you’re victimizing people through criminal activity it’s your fault if something horrible happens. Obviously the police don’t have a right to execute people, but at this point I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt if someone is fighting with them when they’re arrested.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

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well I guess thats why they refused to release the bodycam footage.

Just sadly this time judging by the other quotes it wasn't him BSing like so many other people who get arrested do, thinking its a literal get out of jail free card.
Reading some of his quotes, reminds me of when I was talking to some people in EMS how some people seem aware they are dying even when everything looks "Close to normal". Floyd may have been experiencing I forget what its actually called its like a 'near death awareness' (which also puts the cops in to 'not part of his death' arena).

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

How is it a violation of someone's civil rights? Using that logic wouldn't toppling/defacing the statues of Serra and Cervantes be a violation of the civil rights of anyone with Hispanic background?

PC422.6(b) is "destruction of private property"

https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-422-6.html

Law kiwis will need to chime in but my bet is not even half the charges can stick at all and the ones that might will be settled out of court. (Possession of tools for vandalism being the one that might, vandalism is heavily arguable.)

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

PC422.6(b) is "destruction of private property"

https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-422-6.html

Law kiwis will need to chime in but my bet is not even half the charges can stick at all and the ones that might will be settled out of court. (Possession of tools for vandalism being the one that might, vandalism is heavily arguable.)

They might as well charge them with "Hurting Nog Feelings" and "Boo-booing white liberal feefees" and just have done with it. Then they can sentence them to having to fill out 12 Jamal Food Stamp applications and 3 Shaniqua Child Support forms.

At least it would be honest.

 

[Green Man]

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well I guess thats why they refused to release the bodycam footage.

Hmm, could it be that he was having difficulty breathing due to the heroic dose of fentanyl in his system which causes respiratory depression? That's pretty basic knowledge honestly. I'm no medical expert but even I know that pretty much any drug in the opioid extended family causes respiratory depression. Floyd also had methamphetamine in his system, which can often bring a person's blood pressure and pulse up to dangerous levels. If you combine respiratory depression with heightened blood pressure/pulse I could imagine that it would be pretty difficult to get your breath. Not to mention he also had COVID, most likely [haven't seen anything purely factual] smoked cigarettes, and also smoked pot.

So let's lay it out on the table here:

1. Floyd's lungs and possibly his heart were in pretty shitty shape to begin with from a life of poor health decisions combined with COVID, thus reducing Floyd's likely oxygen levels from the outset.
2. Floyd took two drugs that are almost polar opposites of one another, one that would depress his respiratory rate [reducing his oxygen levels even further] and one that would raise his blood pressure and pulse, much like the speedball that's killed a number of notable people.
3. Decided to fight with the cops which resulted in his restraint, whether enough pressure was applied in that restraint to further impede his ability to breathe is the central question and I don't think anyone will be able to prove how much pressure Chauvin applied.

I also remember a theory floating around in the early days of the 2020 Chimpout that Chauvin restrained Floyd the way he did because George had been spitting at the officers, which given that we're smack in the middle of a fucking pandemic that can further proliferate in saliva, I think it's a fairly reasonable measure to take. Not sure if that's true, of course, and if we never get the unreleased footage that we know exists [that the DA doesn't want to get out for some reason] we'll probably never know.

Personally I think the DA doesn't want that footage released because he knows all of this and knows that this case is flimsy as all hell.

 

[Gnostic American]

Today's Horror courtesy of /pol

 

[tehpope]

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I guess Doritos abandond the gamer demo.