U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Cycleye]

What has got me about floyd is when chauvin is supposed to have so much weight on his neck that it kills him, floyd moves his head from looking from the left to looking right very easily. chauvin doesnt seem to remove any weight to allow floyd to move his head.
I am pretty fucking sure that if a high percentage of body weight is put into the back of the neck there is no chance of moving the head around like floyd did. They should try that in court with a random jury member. With the drugs in his body, his general lack of good health, and post covid he may have died if they had sat him in the back of a car with air-con switched on, but it didnt go that way.
Tbh the same cops couldve ended up dealing with a dead floyd if a shop keeper had got physical with floyd over a fake $20 bill. I think big george had used his 9 lives and the stress of anything physical could have seen his ticket punched that day.

 

[Cast Iron Pan]

A local news article has more of the body cam transcript and a copy of the motion filed to dismiss. I’m trying to get the rest of the filing but the court records website is getting slammed.

Photos from inside Floyd’s car were also released, including two where there are two more counterfeit $20s crumpled up.

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Shawanda Renee Hill

Hill: No, he got thing going on, I‘m telling you about the police.
Lane: What does that mean?
Hill: He have problems all the time when they come, especially when that man put that gun like that. It's been one.

Being a cop having to deal with literal retards must be so tiresome, especially when they're seven feet tall, flipped-out on drugs, and prone to violence.

“We were trying to get him in the back of the squad, and he was just basically resisting…He wasn't showing us his hands at first. Then we were trying to get him into the squad, he kicked his way out, he was kicking on there. And we came out the other side, and he was fighting us, and we were just basically restrained him until you guys got here,” Lane says.

Why not release bodycam footage right away? Who decides whether footage is released? Wouldn't the police want to show how absolutely innocent they are?

 

[feral cat #6385]

4chan being spicy.

Describing them as fender fluid is funnier.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

much like the speedball that's killed a number of notable people.

I saw his body thrashing round
I saw his pulse rate going down
I saw him in convulsive throes
I said 'I'll have one of those!'

 

[Green Man]

What has got me about floyd is when chauvin is supposed to have so much weight on his neck that it kills him, floyd moves his head from looking from the left to looking right very easily. chauvin doesnt seem to remove any weight to allow floyd to move his head.
I am pretty fucking sure that if a high percentage of body weight is put into the back of the neck there is no chance of moving the head around like floyd did. They should try that in court with a random jury member. With the drugs in his body, his general lack of good health, and post covid he may have died if they had sat him in the back of a car with air-con switched on, but it didnt go that way.
Tbh the same cops couldve ended up dealing with a dead floyd if a shop keeper had got physical with floyd over a fake $20 bill. I think big george had used his 9 lives and the stress of anything physical could have seen his ticket punched that day.

I think George Floyd would have likely ended up dead that day no matter what happened. Either dead in police custody, or he might've nodded out behind the wheel, or maybe he would've died when he got wherever he was going that day. Unless he had a very firm tolerance, the amount of fentanyl in his system alone would have been enough to do him in. Add in the meth and you've got a recipe for untimely death. Unless immediate and swift medical intervention were available, he probably would've died almost no matter what.

For what it's worth I also don't think Chauvin planted his full bodyweight onto George's neck, either. He didn't seem to shift his weight onto that knee and Floyd was still moving his head. Hell, you can try it yourself, open both hands and put one in front and one behind your neck and apply mild pressure, you're going to have a hard time turning your head. Obviously don't apply enough to choke yourself out. But if Chauvin had applied the pressure of his bodyweight on Floyd's neck, there's almost no way he would've been able to turn his head at all.

Unfortunately I think even if it comes out that this was all based on bullshit [Floyd's death which I would categorize as death by misadventure] most people have already made up their mind and they're not going to believe it. And the only way that would come out is if the officers involved get a fair trial, which we already know won't be the case as the DA has a vested interest in seeing justice perverted and he's proven this by not releasing further materials, not allowing court proceedings to be televised, etc.

 

[Superman93's Bitch]

Rate me late if anyone had shared this already but I think this documentary fits nicely as the current woke religions version of “Jesus Camp”.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2WeWgcSMk (Part 1)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A0W9QbkX8Cs (Part 2)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2vyBLCqyUes (Part 3)

What the far left did to Evergreen is really interesting because it seems like a dry run for what they're trying to do to America.

I honestly find this stuff hard to watch because I've been in situations where I had to humor people like this and even seeing them on video makes my hackles rise.

Incidentally, if you're ever in a situation where you have to humor people like this then leave. It doesn't matter what it costs you, get them out of your life. Even if you end up penniless in the third world.

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Evergreen was an omen.

 

[deeplyhigh]

Why not release bodycam footage right away? Who decides whether footage is released? Wouldn't the police want to show how absolutely innocent they are?

I’ve posted about this a couple times before, but this thread is stupid long, so basically body cam data is private while an investigation is ongoing, but there are several exceptions, including if the subjects or officers involved want to request the video. The video could be published by the subject or officers, from my understanding. Unfortunately, the footage was not included on the court website.



Court documents, including the full body cam transcript and Lane’s statement to police are attached to preserve locally.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

I'm fully aware that I'll have more rainbows inbound for this reply than an average episode of My Little Pony.... but... if there is one slight demographic hope for the coming generations, it's conservative latinos. They tend to be religious and family-orientated and beyond the very flimsiest definitions of "POC", aren't historically known to get too buddy-buddy with blacks. If there is a power-vacuum waiting to be filled in the next decade, it's for a legit based / conservative / populist Mexican on the national political stage.

Oh boy, more cartels.

 

[Cycleye]

I think George Floyd would have likely ended up dead that day no matter what happened. Either dead in police custody, or he might've nodded out behind the wheel, or maybe he would've died when he got wherever he was going that day. Unless he had a very firm tolerance, the amount of fentanyl in his system alone would have been enough to do him in. Add in the meth and you've got a recipe for untimely death. Unless immediate and swift medical intervention were available, he probably would've died almost no matter what.

For what it's worth I also don't think Chauvin planted his full bodyweight onto George's neck, either. He didn't seem to shift his weight onto that knee and Floyd was still moving his head. Hell, you can try it yourself, open both hands and put one in front and one behind your neck and apply mild pressure, you're going to have a hard time turning your head. Obviously don't apply enough to choke yourself out. But if Chauvin had applied the pressure of his bodyweight on Floyd's neck, there's almost no way he would've been able to turn his head at all.

Unfortunately I think even if it comes out that this was all based on bullshit [Floyd's death which I would categorize as death by misadventure] most people have already made up their mind and they're not going to believe it. And the only way that would come out is if the officers involved get a fair trial, which we already know won't be the case as the DA has a vested interest in seeing justice perverted and he's proven this by not releasing further materials, not allowing court proceedings to be televised, etc.

I am no expert in close quarters defence and restraint techniques but i would imagine the knee in the back of the neck, with minimal pressure, is enough to keep someone much larger than yourself under control. Just like a tny person can make a much larger person back off 2 steps, to enable a good kick to the nuts, by using one finger in under the lowest ribs.
Anyway.... combined with handcuffs i cant see any need for pressure and the knee is just there enough to make the perp aware of it. Floyd moves his head too easily and i think Chauvin showed control using the knee.
I dont know about correct procedures and there isnt all of the bodycam footage to see what was/was not done but maybe it couldve all been handled differently. If he was being a fucking ape and he was spitting at the cops then i think the cops did good by what we have seen.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

, including if the subjects or officers involved want to request the video

Which they did, and from what I recall the state said "no". Even when its for the trail.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Hmm, could it be that he was having difficulty breathing due to the heroic dose of fentanyl in his system which causes respiratory depression? That's pretty basic knowledge honestly. I'm no medical expert but even I know that pretty much any drug in the opioid extended family causes respiratory depression. Floyd also had methamphetamine in his system, which can often bring a person's blood pressure and pulse up to dangerous levels. If you combine respiratory depression with heightened blood pressure/pulse I could imagine that it would be pretty difficult to get your breath. Not to mention he also had COVID, most likely [haven't seen anything purely factual] smoked cigarettes, and also smoked pot.

So let's lay it out on the table here:

1. Floyd's lungs and possibly his heart were in pretty shitty shape to begin with from a life of poor health decisions combined with COVID, thus reducing Floyd's likely oxygen levels from the outset.
2. Floyd took two drugs that are almost polar opposites of one another, one that would depress his respiratory rate [reducing his oxygen levels even further] and one that would raise his blood pressure and pulse, much like the speedball that's killed a number of notable people.
3. Decided to fight with the cops which resulted in his restraint, whether enough pressure was applied in that restraint to further impede his ability to breathe is the central question and I don't think anyone will be able to prove how much pressure Chauvin applied.

I also remember a theory floating around in the early days of the 2020 Chimpout that Chauvin restrained Floyd the way he did because George had been spitting at the officers, which given that we're smack in the middle of a fucking pandemic that can further proliferate in saliva, I think it's a fairly reasonable measure to take. Not sure if that's true, of course, and if we never get the unreleased footage that we know exists [that the DA doesn't want to get out for some reason] we'll probably never know.

Personally I think the DA doesn't want that footage released because he knows all of this and knows that this case is flimsy as all hell.

Doesn't matter, IMHO. Chauvin is fucked. We are either rapidly approaching or at a point where even if the evidence indicated the officers did not cause the death the jury would still convict. People have been victims of cancel culture for far less and just imagine some suburban mom risking censure from the social circle or the husband risking getting fired. Sure, the identity of the jurors are secret...until the Twitter mob matches the photos (that they may covertly take) to who they are.

Better to vote guilty and spare your family ruination. Christ, I have a job that is nearly termination proof but I could understand the pressure.

Even if some KIWI or based MF'er was selected for the jury pool, the prosecutor will kick out anyone with ethics based on strong ethical foundations during voir dire.

Prosecutors hate people like that. Personally, I got a jury duty notice for a case that had decent local coverage and circumstantial video evidence. I knew of the case but never bothered to watch the video. During voir dire, the defense attorney asked if we knew of the case. I said yes, I had heard about it. Judge asked me about my opinion on it.

I said, I had none. That according to my ethical framework, when we seek to deprive a man of their very liberty we must ensure that they are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That even if the prosecution rested today, those that knew of the case and had seen the video had a duty to vote not guilty.

Unsurprisingly, I was immediately booted off by the prosecutor.

 

[AnOminous]

And the only way that would come out is if the officers involved get a fair trial, which we already know won't be the case as the DA has a vested interest in seeing justice perverted and he's proven this by not releasing further materials, not allowing court proceedings to be televised, etc.

Televising court proceedings is bullshit and also it's not really up to him anyway. Shit like the O.J. Simpson trial with a star struck judge playing to the cameras instead of the law doesn't help anyone. He can also conduct his prosecution any way he likes but there are as many as three levels of appeal the judge needs to consider before he fucks up the case.

 

[deeplyhigh]

Which they did, and from what I recall the state said "no". Even when its for the trail.

The union wanted it and didn’t get it. It appears the officers involved did though because the transcript was released today from Thomas Lane’s camera.

 

[feral cat #6385]

There's no way he'll get on the ballot in enough states to even have a chance of getting 270 votes out of 538 in the electoral college.

That's not the plan. Ever hear of Ross Perot?

 

[Green Man]

Televising court proceedings is bullshit and also it's not really up to him anyway. Shit like the O.J. Simpson trial with a star struck judge playing to the cameras instead of the law doesn't help anyone. He can also conduct his prosecution any way he likes but there are as many as three levels of appeal the judge needs to consider before he fucks up the case.

I hadn't considered that but you're right, I think the OJ trial's diaspora were even worse than the fact he walked. Couldn't think of a worse group of people nor more undeserving of notoriety than OJ's 'Dream Team'. Wasn't Dershowitz recently outed as a pal of Jeff Epstein?

Not to get too off-topic here, I was thinking more or less not a televised spectacle but just a camera in the room kind of deal, like CSPAN style. But I do of course realize that that style of coverage is long gone and if a camera is allowed in the room, it'll probably be some sensationalized three-ring circus bullshit commentated on by the likes of Don Lemon. I guess I'm stuck in the 90s when there was still something approaching some semblance of journalistic integrity.

 

[JambledUpWords]

If you’re white and worry about your safety, it means you have white fragility

 

[Meat Target]

Doesn't matter, IMHO. Chauvin is fucked. We are either rapidly approaching or at a point where even if the evidence indicated the officers did not cause the death the jury would still convict. People have been victims of cancel culture for far less and just imagine some suburban mom risking censure from the social circle or the husband risking getting fired. Sure, the identity of the jurors are secret...until the Twitter mob matches the photos (that they may covertly take) to who they are.

Better to vote guilty and spare your family ruination. Christ, I have a job that is nearly termination proof but I could understand the pressure.

Even if some KIWI or based MF'er was selected for the jury pool, the prosecutor will kick out anyone with ethics based on strong ethical foundations during voir dire.

Prosecutors hate people like that. Personally, I got a jury duty notice for a case that had decent local coverage and circumstantial video evidence. I knew of the case but never bothered to watch the video. During voir dire, the defense attorney asked if we knew of the case. I said yes, I had heard about it. Judge asked me about my opinion on it.

I said, I had none. That according to my ethical framework, when we seek to deprive a man of their very liberty we must ensure that they are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That even if the prosecution rested today, those that knew of the case and had seen the video had a duty to vote not guilty.

Unsurprisingly, I was immediately booted off by the prosecutor.

Even if he's acquitted, his life is over because we live in a world where facts don't matter. There would be chimpouts instantly. There'd probably be killings in the courthouse just as the verdict was returned.

And after all this shitflinging about "dismantling institutional racism", be prepared for SHTF.

 

[Meat Target]

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If you’re white and worry about your safety, it means you have white fragility

If you use text message spelling and grammar in a sociopolitical thesis or statement, you have no ideas worth even hearing.

Let me guess, spelling, grammar, and punctuation are racist and white supremacist, too?

 

[Escaped Abortion]

I think George Floyd would have likely ended up dead that day no matter what happened. Either dead in police custody, or he might've nodded out behind the wheel, or maybe he would've died when he got wherever he was going that day. Unless he had a very firm tolerance, the amount of fentanyl in his system alone would have been enough to do him in. Add in the meth and you've got a recipe for untimely death. Unless immediate and swift medical intervention were available, he probably would've died almost no matter what.

For what it's worth I also don't think Chauvin planted his full bodyweight onto George's neck, either. He didn't seem to shift his weight onto that knee and Floyd was still moving his head. Hell, you can try it yourself, open both hands and put one in front and one behind your neck and apply mild pressure, you're going to have a hard time turning your head. Obviously don't apply enough to choke yourself out. But if Chauvin had applied the pressure of his bodyweight on Floyd's neck, there's almost no way he would've been able to turn his head at all.

Unfortunately I think even if it comes out that this was all based on bullshit [Floyd's death which I would categorize as death by misadventure] most people have already made up their mind and they're not going to believe it. And the only way that would come out is if the officers involved get a fair trial, which we already know won't be the case as the DA has a vested interest in seeing justice perverted and he's proven this by not releasing further materials, not allowing court proceedings to be televised, etc.

I wish I could have just lived in that reality where the drugs took him before the cops arrived.

If evidence supports Chauvin's innocence, it isn't going to be enough to stop more rioting. We will just be at a position where we have to decide if one man's life is worth letting a city, or potentially country, burn.

 

[Cast Iron Pan]

If you use text message spelling and grammar in a sociopolitical thesis or statement, you have no ideas worth even hearing.

Let me guess, spelling, grammar, and punctuation are racist and white supremacist, too?

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