Inactive Nick Bate / Nickalaus B. Stoutzenberger (Thread 2: THE RECKONING)

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I disagree, Ed Gein deserved less than Nick Bate; Ed Gein was mentally ill, Nick Bate is lucid.

This is very arguable.

Anyway.

>mfw reading this thread.

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Jesus Christ, people. Chill. Nick Bate is a sick, insane fucker, and everyone is happy that they finally put his ass in jail, but there's no reason to devolve into writing spergy Nick rape/torture porn fanfiction. That's gross. An eye for eye and we all go blind, or in this case, become a bunch of bloodthirsty madmen.

He's fucked, anyway. Justice will take care of him. He's going to be either sent up for a long time or institutionalized, and he will no longer be able to hurt anyone again, and that's more than enough. So relax and celebrate, I know I will :).

PD: lol pwned
 
I think Nick Bate doesn't die behind bars, at least, not just yet.

He may or may not plead out. Functionally, he's already confessed to his actions online; however, dropping those into a court case could lead the defense to make a case that he's mentally unwell. There may be something to that, but the DA could decide this is the case to fight to bitter end, and Nick Bate could wind up with the full 40 years.

The US Prison System knows better than to put people like Sick Nick in general population. If he's with other lifers behind bars, he's probably dead--someone with nothing to lose adds another life sentence to their record. He'll go to protective custody, where he'll find no friends and that he is a very small man in the world.

There is some chance that he blows it; that he doesn't follow protocol or otherwise derps up--and then he gets moved to general or an inmate gets a chance to inflict violence upon him.

What Nick will never again be able to avoid is the knowledge that he is a terrible person. Even if he comes out from behind bars at 63 (not implausible) with teeth provided at state expense, the knowledge that he must be kept away from the average person because they will hurt or kill him will be a fact of life. So will the sex offender stigma, and rightly so.

It may very well be better for Nick himself just to end it all. He can now forget having a job, family, or any other thing in his life--he'll come out from prison in 2055 an old man with no use or purpose.
 
I think Nick Bate doesn't die behind bars, at least, not just yet.

He may or may not plead out. Functionally, he's already confessed to his actions online; however, dropping those into a court case could lead the defense to make a case that he's mentally unwell. There may be something to that, but the DA could decide this is the case to fight to bitter end, and Nick Bate could wind up with the full 40 years.

The US Prison System knows better than to put people like Sick Nick in general population. If he's with other lifers behind bars, he's probably dead--someone with nothing to lose adds another life sentence to their record. He'll go to protective custody, where he'll find no friends and that he is a very small man in the world.

There is some chance that he blows it; that he doesn't follow protocol or otherwise derps up--and then he gets moved to general or an inmate gets a chance to inflict violence upon him.

What Nick will never again be able to avoid is the knowledge that he is a terrible person. Even if he comes out from behind bars at 63 (not implausible) with teeth provided at state expense, the knowledge that he must be kept away from the average person because they will hurt or kill him will be a fact of life. So will the sex offender stigma, and rightly so.

It may very well be better for Nick himself just to end it all. He can now forget having a job, family, or any other thing in his life--he'll come out from prison in 2055 an old man with no use or purpose.

And any of the scenarios you just described couldn't happen to a more deserving person.
 
What happens in cases like that in prison? If you have a prisoner who refuses to follow basic hygiene, or worse, smears his shit all over the walls?

Well, when I was in basic there was a guy who decided he wasn't going to shower. After about a week and a half he smelled so bad that you didn't want to be 10 feet from him. Then he got us in trouble with how nasty he smelled and we were encouraged to take care of the problem. So some brave souls took it upon themselves to convince him to shower by dragging him into the showers and scrubbing him down with brillo pads and that scoring powder you use to clean bathroom tiles with the threat of it happening every night if he didn't "clean up his act". That dude showered every day he could after that.

There'd probably be something similar in prison where inmates encourage him to not stink up the cell. When one person starts annoying groups of people random acts of teamwork break out. I don't know how stuff like this get's handled in jail but I'm assuming if the staff doesn't force him to shower his new friends will.
 
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Well this is a fantastic piece of news :) got permission from the boss to have wine with lunch to celebrate.

I would point out that nick is an idiot, there is no guarantee he'll take a plea bargain. I find clients either cave very quickly or decide the potential sentence is so bad they are as well to fight it.

As I said Nick is an idiot so even if he does choose to fight it I think he'd lose. Though the nature of these cases makes them the most difficult to prosecute and predict. It is possible, albeit unlikely, that if this goes to trial the prosecution might cock it up considerably- it would hardly be the first time a child abuse case has collapsed or failed. Or that if convicted he may only get 10-15 rather than 40. As I said these are the hardest of all criminal cases to prosecute and unless the prosecutor is sure of winning they will likely offer some form of a plea bargain.

in any case nick being outed to the world at large is something to celebrate in and of itself- the stigma that has now attached will never go. Even if he gets off he will have to move away and will have to keep an eye over his shoulder at all times.

By all means celebrate- today is the beginning of a process that will probably see nick locked away for sometime but be aware that the game isn't up yet.

I'd also like to reiterate an appreciation towards the brave victims who came forward- that takes exceptional courage. this process isn't over for you yet- and if it goes to court then dealing with the defence can be extremely distressing but certainly no harder than initially coming forward. I know you have all our support and admiration. You have my very deepest respect.

today is a good day. Not yet the victory, but a good day.
 
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