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Cinemas fucking suck. You walk down the aisle having to listen to popcorn crunching under your feet, you sit in a chair that's damp because some dickhead spilled his drink on it, the floor's sticky because that's where the rest of the drink went, you have obnoxious people constantly talking throughout the movie, there is always a family of tall people who sit directly in front of you no matter how many seats are available and you miss 5 minutes of the movie when you need a piss and can't find the bathroom.
thats why i only go to small Cinemas...
 
It's why I only watch movies at home. That and it's fucking FREE, BABY!
I like the big screen, the sound of the projector, people bringing you beer to your seat, etc.

We have a small local cinema run by cinephiles. they show all kinds of cool movies. nothing more relaxing than having a nice cold pastis while watching some old zombie movie or Italo western.
 
I like the big screen, the sound of the projector, people bringing you beer to your seat, etc.

We have a small local cinema run by cinephiles. they show all kinds of cool movies. nothing more relaxing than having a nice cold pastis while watching some old zombie movie or Italo western.
I'm fairly sure I went to a small cinema (2 screens) when I was younger, but I have no idea where it was (it was a pretty long drive, from what I remember), or if it even exists anymore. It was pretty much the only time I didn't dislike the experience, so I agree that small cinemas have visitors who are more respectful of the place and other cinema-goers, it's just a shame there's none near where I live.

Edit: And they let you bring in your own food and drink without making a fuss about it, that was also pretty cool.
 
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https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/1281497075268702209 (https://archive.vn/ea5mW)

Because social justice is exactly what medicine needs during a pandemic...
 
>reports from China
>only taken from hospitalizations

43 cases out of tens of thousands of cases.
Terrifying.

Also one of the causes of said brain damage is strokes. Strokes.
Old people tend to get strokes when they are sick. Truly COVID is a deadly neurotropic disease.

Lick your doorknobs, brony.

This is stupid.
If they actually believed we needed to do everything it takes to fight COVID, then they wouldn't muddy the water and alienate potential support by throwing in controversial socio-political positions.

(same thing with climate change. if Greta and her handlers cared that much about climate change, they wouldn't try and alienate most of the third world by adopting a neofeminist agenda)
 
Welp, it’s not the flu.









It’s just like SARS. Long-term, chronic effects, like lung scarring and brain damage. :(
Influenza can cause these things, too. Pneumonia or ARDS will mess you up, and sometimes the virus just does things to your body because it feels like it.

Lung damage and psychological impairment: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17497-6
Acute kidney injury: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21196619/
Guillan-Barre Syndrome: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24415636/
Death: https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
 
>reports from China
>only taken from hospitalizations

They can’t assess the prevalence of complications in unknown cases because, by definition, they’re unknown.

43 cases out of tens of thousands of cases.
Terrifying.

Also one of the causes of said brain damage is strokes. Strokes.
Old people tend to get strokes when they are sick. Truly COVID is a deadly neurotropic disease.

Lick your doorknobs, brony.

COVID-19 causes blood clotting, heart attacks, and strokes. This is not small-time clotting, either, like one or two clots. This is clotting that makes the patient’s blood look like raspberry chia fresca.



Changes in blood platelets triggered by COVID-19 could contribute to the onset of heart attacks, strokes, and other serious complications in some patients who have the disease, according to scientists. The researchers found that inflammatory proteins produced during infection significantly alter the function of platelets, making them 'hyperactive' and more prone to form dangerous and potentially deadly blood clots.



Let me give you an example. The main clotting protein in the blood is fibrinogen. It’s soluble, and you have 2–4 grams per liter in your blood.

The clotting factors switch soluble fibrinogen to insoluble fibrin, and that is the clot.
The level is 2–4 grams per liter in most people. If you are pregnant, or as you get older, the levels get higher. They might go up to 5, 6, or even 7 [grams per liter].

But what are we seeing in COVID-19? We are seeing levels of 10, even 14 grams per liter. I’ve been in this game forever, for decades, and I’ve never seen such sticky blood.



Some Covid-19 patients are known to develop blood clotting issues, but the degree and the extent to which that occurs was described as "dramatic" by Rapkiewicz.

In the early stages of the pandemic, bedside clinicians noticed a lot of blood clotting "in lines and various large vessels," she said.

"What we saw at autopsy was sort of an extension of that," she said. "The clotting was not only in the large vessels but also in the smaller vessels.

"And this was dramatic, because though we might have expected it in the lungs, we found it in almost every organ that we looked at in our autopsy study," she said. Rapkiewicz's study outlining her findings was published at the end of June in The Lancet journal EClinicalMedicine.

These aren’t alternative news sites or crazies saying this. These are mainstream sources, one after another, insisting that the virus causes tons of blood clots, and that those blood clots, in turn, cause hypoxic damage to organs. Where is your evidence to the contrary?

Influenza can cause these things, too. Pneumonia or ARDS will mess you up, and sometimes the virus just does things to your body because it feels like it.

Lung damage and psychological impairment: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17497-6
Acute kidney injury: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21196619/
Guillan-Barre Syndrome: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24415636/
Death: https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

Yes, this is true. Many of the same complications can occur in flu, but to compare the flu to COVID-19 is like comparing a rolling pin to a steam roller and saying “they can both flatten things”. The rate of complications from SARS-CoV-2 infection, especially those resulting in hospitalization, is very, very high.
 
COVID-19 causes blood clotting, heart attacks, and strokes. This is not small-time clotting, either, like one or two clots. This is clotting that makes the patient’s blood look like raspberry chia fresca.

Yeah? Poverty is also associated with stroke risk and mortality. The poorer you are, the less likely you are to survive. Woke crowd, take note: low income black women are most affected.

Brain damage? Poverty is correlated with low IQ and behavioral issues in children. The longer children are poor, the worse it gets. But but granny and hamplanets like Chantal might get ~teh brain damage, am I right? Keep mum and dad poor, and screw with their education via lockdowns and mask hysteria; I guess we eat our young now.

It's not the flu, but it's not smallpox, either. Life is dangerous, bro.
 
Yeah? Poverty is also associated with stroke risk and mortality. The poorer you are, the less likely you are to survive. Woke crowd, take note: low income black women are most affected.

Brain damage? Poverty is correlated with low IQ and behavioral issues in children. The longer children are poor, the worse it gets. But but granny and hamplanets like Chantal might get ~teh brain damage, am I right? Keep mum and dad poor, and screw with their education via lockdowns and mask hysteria; I guess we eat our young now.

It's not the flu, but it's not smallpox, either. Life is dangerous, bro.

I actually agree with you. The lockdowns have severe mental health and public health consequences, and may exacerbate some problems with this disease. Low vitamin D and deficiency in dietary nitrate worsens the symptoms. More sun exposure is beneficial. If people hide indoors and come out and they’re vitamin D deprived, it could make the virus worse if they contract it.

Also, people are just plain losing their marbles from the isolation. That’s not ideal, either. Social unrest could enhance transmission.

The good news is, it’s definitely not as lethal as smallpox and the worst effects appear largely confined to older people and those with pre-existing conditions, especially high blood pressure.
 
On the blood clotting, obviously I am not saying 'this proves it', or anything close. It was just interesting to see an actual first hand example, this from the other thread:

Could've sworn I posted in here but I guess not. My memory is garbage.
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During that they did a CT scan and found significant blood clotting, approx. close to 2ft worth of partial blockages (I'm young and with no predisposition for clots especially not to that level) and ground-glass opacities in my lung. That same week was around the time that the experts on COVID had said that they were finding bizarre blood clotting issues in their patients. Coupled with the ground-glass opacities in my lung and my struggle to stay oxygenated they put me on the suspected list. I tested negative on a swab but positive on antibodies.
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Anyway tl;dr take this shit seriously, you really don't want to be this sick
 
Here's an interesting article on a Hong Kong virologist that fled to the United States back in April. She is now speaking out about a massive coverup of the Chinese Virus by the CCP.

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EXCLUSIVE: Chinese virologist accuses Beijing of coronavirus cover-up, flees Hong Kong: 'I know how they treat whistleblowers'

Li-Meng Yan told Fox News that she believes China knew about the coronavirus well before it claimed it did. She says her supervisors also ignored research she was doing that she believes could have saved lives.


EXCLUSIVE: Hong Kong scientist Dr. Li-Meng Yan was stepping into uncharted territory.

Hours before she boarded an April 28 Cathay Pacific flight to the United States, the respected doctor who specialized in virology and immunology at the Hong Kong School of Public Health had plotted her escape, packing her bag and sneaking past the censors and video cameras on campus.

She had her passport and her purse and was about to leave all of her loved ones behind. If she was caught, she knew she could be thrown in jail -- or, worse, rendered one of the "disappeared."

Yan told Fox News in an exclusive interview that she believes the Chinese government knew about the novel coronavirus well before it claimed it did. She says her supervisors, renowned as some of the top experts in the field, also ignored research she was doing at the onset of the pandemic that she believes could have saved lives.

She adds that they likely had an obligation to tell the world, given their status as a World Health Organization reference laboratory specializing in influenza viruses and pandemics, especially as the virus began spreading in the early days of 2020.

Yan, now in hiding, claims the government in the country where she was born is trying to shred her reputation and accuses government goons of choreographing a cyber-attack against her in hopes of keeping her quiet.

Yan believes her life is in danger. She fears she can never go back to her home and lives with the hard truth that she’ll likely never see her friends or family there again.

Still, she says, the risk is worth it.

"The reason I came to the U.S. is because I deliver the message of the truth of COVID," she told Fox News from an undisclosed location.

She added that if she tried to tell her story in China, she "will be disappeared and killed."

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Photo of Dr. Li-Meng Yan at her wedding. (Yan)


Yan's story weaves an extraordinary claim about cover-ups at the highest levels of government and seemingly exposes the obsessive compulsion of President Xi Jinping and his Communist Party to control the coronavirus narrative: what China knew, when it knew it and what edited information it peddled to the rest of the world.

Yan, who says she was one of the first scientists in the world to study the novel coronavirus, was allegedly asked by her supervisor at the University/WHO reference lab, Dr. Leo Poon, in 2019 to look into the odd cluster of SARS-like cases coming out of mainland China at the end of December 2019.

"The China government refused to let overseas experts, including ones in Hong Kong, do research in China," she said. "So I turned to my friends to get more information."

Yan had an extensive network of professional contacts in various medical facilities in mainland China, having grown up and completed much of her studies there. She says that is the precise reason she was asked to conduct this kind of research, especially at a time when she says her team knew they weren’t getting the whole truth from the government.

One friend, a scientist at the Center for Disease Control and Prevention in China, had first-hand knowledge of the cases and purportedly told Yan on Dec. 31 about human-to-human transmission well before China or the WHO admitted such spread was possible.

She reported some of these early findings back to her boss, Yan said.

"He just nodded," she recalled, and told her to keep working.

A few days later, on Jan. 9, 2020, the WHO put out a statement: "According to Chinese authorities, the virus in question can cause severe illness in some patients and does not transmit readily between people... There is limited information to determine the overall risk of this reported cluster.”

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Dr. Li-Meng Yan in Hong Kong (Yan)


Yan said she and her colleagues across China discussed the peculiar virus but that she soon noted a sharp shift in tone.

Doctors and researchers who had been openly discussing the virus suddenly clammed up. Those from the city of Wuhan--which later would become the hub of the outbreak--went silent and others were warned not to ask them details.

The doctors said, ominously, "We can't talk about it, but we need to wear masks,'" Yan said.

Then the numbers of human-to-human transmission began to grow exponentially, according to her sources, and Yan started digging for answers.

"There are many, many patients who don't get treatment on time and diagnosis on time," Yan said. "Hospital doctors are scared, but they cannot talk. CDC staff are scared."

She said she reported her findings to her supervisor again on Jan. 16 but that's when he allegedly told her "to keep silent, and be careful."

"As he warned me before, 'Don't touch the red line,'" Yan said referring to the government. "We will get in trouble and we'll be disappeared."

She also claims the co-director of a WHO-affiliated lab, Professor Malik Peiris, knew but didn't do anything about it.

Peiris also did not respond to requests for comment. The WHO website lists Peiris as an "adviser" on the WHO International Health Regulations Emergency Committee for Pneumonia due to the Novel Coronavirus 2019-nCoV.

Yan was frustrated, but not surprised.

"I already know that would happen because I know the corruption among this kind of international organization like the WHO to China government, and to China Communist Party," she said. "So basically... I accept it but I don't want this misleading information to spread to the world."

The WHO and China have vehemently denied claims of a coronavirus cover-up.

The WHO has also denied that Yan, Poon or Peiris ever worked directly for the organization.

"Professor Malik Peiris is an infectious disease expert who has been on WHO missions and expert groups - as are many people eminent in their fields," WHO spokeswoman Margaret Ann Harris said in an email. "That does not make him a WHO staff member, nor does he represent WHO."

Yan says despite any pushback, she has been emboldened by a sense of right and wrong and says she had to speak up despite the personal and professional consequences.

"I know how they treat whistleblowers," she said.

Like so many before her, once Yan decided to speak out against China, she discovered her life was apparently in jeopardy, as well as that of those closest to her.

It was a fear directly relayed to her and seemingly confirmed by U.S.-based Hong Kong blogger Lu Deh, she says.

After she shared some of her theories and suspicions with him, he told her she would need to relocate, perhaps to the United States, where she wouldn't have to constantly look over her shoulder. Only then would she be safe and have a platform to speak, he said.

Yan made the decision to leave, but things got complicated when her husband of six years, who also worked at her lab, discovered the telephone call between his wife and the blogger.

Yan told Fox News she begged her husband to go with her, and says while her spouse, a reputable scientist himself, had initially been supportive of her research, he suddenly had a change of heart.

"He was totally pissed off," she said. "He blamed me, tried to ruin my confidence... He said they will kill all of us.'"


Shocked and hurt, Yan made the decision to leave without him.

She got her ticket to the U.S. on April 27. She was on a flight the next day.

When she landed at Los Angeles International Airport after her 13-hour journey, she was stopped by customs officials.

Fear gripped her and Yan didn't know if she would end up in jail or be sent back to China.

"I had to tell them the truth," she said. "I'm doing the right thing. So I tell them that 'don't let me go back to China. I'm the one who came to tell the truth here of COVID-19... And please protect me. If not, the China government will kill me."

The FBI was allegedly called in to investigate. Yan claims they interviewed her for hours, took her cell phone as evidence and allowed her to continue to her destination.

The FBI told Fox News it could neither confirm nor deny Yan's claims; however, Fox News was shown an evidence receipt that appeared to confirm an interaction.

As Yan was trying to find her footing in America, she says her friends and family back home were being put through the wringer.

Yan claims the government swarmed her hometown of Qingdao and that agents ripped apart her tiny apartment and questioned her parents. When she contacted her mother and father, they pleaded with her to come home, told her she didn't know what she was talking about and begged her to give up the fight.

The University of Hong Kong took down her page and apparently revoked access to her online portals and emails, despite the fact that she says she was on an approved annual leave. In a statement to Fox News, a school spokesperson said Yan is not currently an employee.

"Dr Li-Meng Yan is no longer a staff member of the University," the statement read. "Out of respect for our current and former employees, we don’t disclose personal information about her. Your understanding is appreciated."

The Chinese Embassy in the United States told Fox News they don't know who Yan is and maintain China has handled the pandemic heroically.

"We have never heard of this person," the emailed statement read. "The Chinese government has responded swiftly and effectively to COVID-19 since its outbreak. All its efforts have been clearly documented in the white paper "Fighting COVID-19: China in Action" with full transparency. Facts tell all."

The WHO has also continued to deny any wrongdoing during the earliest days of the virus. The medical arm of the United Nations has been taken to task recently by scientists challenging its official view of how the virus spreads. The WHO has also altered the coronavirus timeline on its website, now saying it got information about the virus from WHO scientists and not the Beijing authorities--as it has claimed for more than six months.

Fox News has also reached out to the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the scientists Yan accuses of suppressing her concerns for comment.

Yan says she'll continue to speak out--but knows there's a target on her back.

The Chinese Embassy in the United States told Fox News they don't know who Yan is and maintain China has handled the pandemic heroically.

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Also, people are just plain losing their marbles from the isolation. That’s not ideal, either. Social unrest could enhance transmission.

YES, absolutely. This way of living is totally anathema to most humans. Introverts, you may be fine, but the extroverts we all rely on to, you know, run society and deal with groups of more than one or two people are suffering greatly.

The ideological divide in the US was staggering pre-plague. No chance of dialogue, no common sources of information, no ability to imagine or even apprehend the views of "the other side." Now imagine that same population, half-insane with isolation, cooking in their respective online outrage-boxes for months with grocery shopping and worrying about financial ruin as their only creative outlets.

If this goes on, an entire generation of kids will have spent their formative years locked indoors with hysterical parents, scared of invisible germs and the Orange Man/commie degenerate New York elites who unleashed them. We're talking stunted education - even the smartest, most well-meaning parents will struggle to teach little Kimmy, Timmy, and Jimmy the math required for future employability - and stunted social skills. As for the consequences of poverty, well. The 'Rona is but a gnat in comparison. To think that Karen was scared shitless of her precious babies getting the 'tism from vaccines...

Like I said, this is quite a plot twist. This cloistered, purposefully paranoid, proudly provincial existence is a total reversal of every previous narrative. You can only wonder who (if anyone) will benefit in the aftermath.
 
Looks like Beijing still cover Corona-chan. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...lees-hong-kong-accuses-beijing-covid-19-cover
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A highly respected Chinese virologist has fled Hong Kong and says that the Chinese government knew about COVID-19 long before they claim they did, and that her supervisors - some of the top experts in the field - ignored research she was conducting at the onset of the pandemic which she says could have saved lives, according to an exclusive interview with Fox News.


Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who specialized in virology and immunology at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, fled Hong Kong on April 28 on a Cathay Pacific flight to the United States, knowing that if she were caught she could be jailed or "disappeared."

She adds that they likely had an obligation to tell the world, given their status as a World Health Organization reference laboratory specializing in influenza viruses and pandemics, especially as the virus began spreading in the early days of 2020.
Yan, now in hiding, claims the government in the country where she was born is trying to shred her reputation and accuses government goons of choreographing a cyber-attack against her in hopes of keeping her quiet.
Yan believes her life is in danger. She fears she can never go back to her home and lives with the hard truth that she’ll likely never see her friends or family there again.
Still, she says, the risk is worth it. -Fox News

"The reason I came to the U.S. is because I deliver the message of the truth of COVID," Yan told Fox from an undisclosed location.

Yan says she was one of the first scientists in the world to study COVID-19 (aside from Wuhan researchers, perhaps) after he supervisor, Dr. Leo Poon, asked her to look into "the odd cluster of SARS-like cases coming out of mainland China at the end of December 2019," according to the report.

"The China government refused to let overseas experts, including ones in Hong Kong, do research in China," she said. "So I turned to my friends to get more information."
 
(Crossposted from the US Riots thread)

In Michigan, Governor Whitmer is giving serious consideration to requiring masks under threat of misdemeanor charges. Various city, county, and state police departments are already saying they lack the resources to be mask police and prefer to intervene only if/when refusal to wear a mask becomes a matter of trespass or public disturbance. No word on whether the police protestors that haven't been wearing masks would be required to comply with such a requirement.

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"Limited clothing" was most likely the article author's immature euphemism for the fact that some of the women on boats have been known to take off their tops as part of the Jobby Nooner. While it became less popular once convictions for public nudity now require an extended stay on the state's sex offender registry, it probably still happens on a smaller scale.
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Jeanne Loveless
Still, Jeanne Loveless, a senior citizen in Charlotte, near Lansing, said Thursday she would like Whitmer to find ways to enhance compliance, enforcement and public education about the requirement for masks.

"I go into stores that make me very nervous," said Loveless, who said she is considering returning to her native California because she believes mask requirements in that state are more strictly enforced.
There is few more horrific things in the world than a lesbian priest. They are always lunatics.

Also, we need to build a wall around California immediately.
 
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Garlin Gilchrist, feral ghoul


Michigan to require all medical professionals to undergo implicit bias training
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Joneigh Khaldun, crazy person
“The coronavirus pandemic has shown that this inequity is particularly and dangerously true,” said Gilchrist, who has lost 23 people in his life due to the virus.

Michigan Chief Medical Executive Dr. Joneigh Khaldun said 40% of the coronavirus deaths in Michigan have been Black people, which comprise 14% of the population.
Why are black people disproportionately represented? [lists story after story about them refusing to comply with quarantine and rioting nationwide]


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Randolph Rasch, pussy nigga
Randolph F.R. Rasch, dean of the College of Nursing at Michigan State University, said implicit bias was an unconscious classification of somebody based on a physical attribute.

Rasch said years ago he personally was on a walk and crossed the street when the saw a younger Black man walking. He stopped to think about why he’d done that, even though he himself was a Black man and had many positive experiences with Black men. What he realized was, “I had learned, unconsciously, to fear him. And at that point, I went back across the street,” Rasch said.
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That guy needs to get mugged more often - school of hard knocks! He looks like prime prey, really.
 
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