Creative works you enjoyed until politics happened - "How politics made me hate Welcome to Nightvale and other things"

[Scarlett Johansson]

I used to be into Arthurian legends so I thought The Mists of Avalon was going to be interesting to read.

Lo and behold Marion Zimmer Bradley turns out to be a crazy pedophile rapist. Now I can't read those books anymore.

 

[Cuck Shack]

I used to like funny articles. Half news, half humor sites were everywhere around 2010. A good example of this was the downfall of Cracked.com. It went from amusing articles you could read while eating breakfast or dropping a deuce to unfunnny woke propaganda practically overnight.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Modern music. Hell, music has always been political and I can enjoy a song even if I don't agree with its messaging, however now they just beat you over the head senselessly without any actual ART to it, spelling out exactly what you NEED to believe.

Political then:

Political now:

I used to like funny articles. Half news, half humor sites were everywhere around 2010. A good example of this was the downfall of Cracked.com. It went from amusing articles you could read while eating breakfast or dropping a deuce to unfunnny woke propaganda practically overnight.

Same thing with Vice.

 

[Red Hood]

Honestly the fact that they interpreted orcs and drow as black people says a lot of weird things about them.

 

[Antipathy]

Star Wars, again, was my first real sign shit was going downhill. I used to be a regular on the Star Wars thread here, and I've written entire fucking essays about what happened to it, but afterwards I haven't bought any new shit, and mostly spend my time combing through older works. It's cheaper and most often better, since the politics within aren't woke as all get out.

Anything with Disney on the tin is woke bullshit in some flavor, it feels like, and Disney owns fucking everything. It's a dark time to be a nerd.

 

[Distant Stare]

I use to watch Doctor Who with my sister before it got pozzed

 

[ShortBusDriver]

I used to read CNN, like all the time when I was supposed to be working, lol.

But around 2011 / 2012 it took a hard left turn with angry men like Sally Kohn autisticly ranting 24/7

I think the Zimmerman coverage was ultimately the death of CNN.

 

[Dave.]

Then:

Now:

It's fucking embarassing. Just look at him

 

[Chan Buddhism]

Then:

Now:

It's fucking embarassing. Just look at him

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Can we be totally sure he's not an FTM?

 

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

I was a huge fan of Alastair Reynolds' first ten or so books (they're good hard scifi) but then he introduced a non-binary character with "xe" pronouns in one of his novels and it gave me a really sour taste in my mouth. Every time it came up the suspension of disbelief was broken entirely: it just read like a typo to me and I resented having to readjust my thinking to compensate.

I never minded his stronk female characters; in a scifi setting the physical differences between men and women can easily be negated with some macguffin or other and beyond that I always felt like he was realistic about the personality differences, but the woke pronouns just rubbed me the wrong way. Sure, in a thousand years maybe they'll be in such common usage that nobody bats an eye but as it stands it's just a bucket of cold water snapping me out of the fantasy constantly.

Also, that book kind of sucked. Pushing Ice is peak Alastair Reynolds, to me.

What made Alastair Reynolds trans-cuckery particularly galling for me was that I binged all his books up until that one partly as a reaction to Peter F Hamiltons sudden veering into that nonsense with whatever his "Enders Game, but everyone is a tranny" book was called.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

I can't think of a clear example where I've enjoyed something that was ruined to the point of being unable to avoid its ruining - retards with zero grasp on reality want DnD to have no race bonuses, but I'll just play the old versions. Card games have a lot of dumb character backstories and "community" drama that I never interface with, and there's a whole host of shows that on their face don't look interesting to me that I don't at all consume.

Yet each and every time a creative opens their fucking mouth about politics, or a show makes an obvious and overt political nod, I tend to just... zone out. But thanks to the way that subtlety doesn't exist in 2020, I can figure this shit out before I get invested to any degree in something. Part of this is because I love good, strong, intricate political stories and examinations - I adore Disco Elysium. And because I do, by default, anything with a dumb and hackneyed and moronic political bent - which creatives can't hold themselves back from shitting everywhere - just automatically gets filtered out.

There are so few exceptions that come to mind in the modern moment, of someone with a defined political leaning opting to let that inform yet not dictate a story -- enrich rather than enslave -- that I'm really at a loss to mention any beyond Elysium.

I guess I also don't use social media, so I don't really get to see the unfiltered idiocy of a lot of guys. I know bands like Cormorant or Caligula's Horse were real political, but I never put myself in a position to see them say anything moronic.

I saw /tv/ complain but never watched it myself. What was the most egregious example?

Spare some time, and find a veritable litany of complains right here.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Mass Effect. Fucking Andromeda and it's Greetings Space Traveler, have I mentioned I am trans shit was the last straw. Fucking Bioware. I saw what they were trying to do with the end of ME3 and even stuck with them through that, but one fucking conversation with one NPC that could have been just innocuous while still letting the player know that trans people made it to another galaxy. Uh-huh, nope, gotta break that message over the heads of everyone with a controller.

The only saving grace was that plenty of trans fans took them to task over it, some because of what it was and others because they thought it didn't go far enough.

You can't ever win with inclusion. Just make every character an Aryan übermensch and call it a day. You'll get just as punished as if you tried to please anyone.

Mine was DA:I and the communist minotaur men suddenly being praised for accepting troons.

It bothers me how saturated with SJW faggotry tabletop games have gotten. We never should have let normies in to play. There was just an article that came out recently about people whining that all the different races you can play as in D&D are actually racist and problematic. Ridiculous.

 

[Kero]

I liked nmesh’s music, and I guess I still do if I separate my thoughts, but he went off the fucking deep end when the George Floyd shit started.

 

[Pargon]

Mine was DA:I and the communist minotaur men suddenly being praised for accepting troons.

Don't forget that, at least in DA:I, they're also very clearly coded to be Muslim.

Communist, troon-tolerant Muslims. Only in high fantasy, ladies and germs, and only ever in high fantasy.

 

[The Curmudgeon]

Too many things, so that's why I stick to my nostalgia. The times we're in now make me glad that I have collections! Both physical and digital collections.

 

[Bugs_Galore]

Visual novels. There are way to many "inclusive" vns made for people who's only personality is the fact that they are gay and POC, not to mention that most of these vns get praised for being stunning and brave for a while but flop once they're released.

Is it really that bad? I would think that Visual Novels would be the one place that politics would have no place in. Japan isn't necessarily known for their progressive beliefs. Then again I guess I haven't really paid attention to whatever western visual novel devs are shitting out on the steam storefront lately.

I have a hard time reading anything by Gail Simone now. Which is a shame, because I loved her take on the Secret Six.

You... actually enjoyed Gail Simone..?

 

[JektheDumbass]

Mine was DA:I and the communist minotaur men suddenly being praised for accepting troons.



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I don't get it. A character whose name literally translates to "The Liar" in his native language says that the nation that combines the worst parts of North Korea and Saudi Arabia would accept the FTM tranny and everyone loves the Qun all of a sudden. Don't get me wrong, I actually like Krem as a character but it's obvious The Iron Bull was bullshitting.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

I can't think of a clear example where I've enjoyed something that was ruined to the point of being unable to avoid its ruining - retards with zero grasp on reality want DnD to have no race bonuses, but I'll just play the old versions. Card games have a lot of dumb character backstories and "community" drama that I never interface with, and there's a whole host of shows that on their face don't look interesting to me that I don't at all consume.

Yet each and every time a creative opens their fucking mouth about politics, or a show makes an obvious and overt political nod, I tend to just... zone out. But thanks to the way that subtlety doesn't exist in 2020, I can figure this shit out before I get invested to any degree in something. Part of this is because I love good, strong, intricate political stories and examinations - I adore Disco Elysium. And because I do, by default, anything with a dumb and hackneyed and moronic political bent - which creatives can't hold themselves back from shitting everywhere - just automatically gets filtered out.

There are so few exceptions that come to mind in the modern moment, of someone with a defined political leaning opting to let that inform yet not dictate a story -- enrich rather than enslave -- that I'm really at a loss to mention any beyond Elysium.

I guess I also don't use social media, so I don't really get to see the unfiltered idiocy of a lot of guys. I know bands like Cormorant or Caligula's Horse were real political, but I never put myself in a position to see them say anything moronic.


Spare some time, and find a veritable litany of complains right here.

I applaud your continued ability to separate the art from the artist.

 

[Borax Bozo]

Is it really that bad? I would think that Visual Novels would be the one place that politics would have no place in. Japan isn't necessarily known for their progressive beliefs. Then again I guess I haven't really paid attention to whatever western visual novel devs are shitting out on the steam storefront lately.

There's a sharp east/west divide in VN stylings, with much of Euromerican development centering around Itch.IO, small RenPy projects, and its overall lefty culture. (This is of course, not counting the Patreon Fetish Content Drip western ones.)
Japan obviously has its much larger VN scene along with Comitia for original doujin work and DLsite for digital distribution. You don't really have a 'site culture' affecting things in Japan. (Other than "sex everwhere!" for a lot of it, of course.)

 

[Doctor Placebo]

There's a sharp east/west divide in VN stylings, with much of Euromerican development centering around Itch.IO, small RenPy projects, and its overall lefty culture. (This is of course, not counting the Patreon Fetish Content Drip western ones.)
Japan obviously has its much larger VN scene along with Comitia for original doujin work and DLsite for digital distribution. You don't really have a 'site culture' affecting things in Japan. (Other than "sex everwhere!" for a lot of it, of course.)

LGBTQ themes in Japanese VN's are primarily for fapping, not virtue signalling.