U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Forgetful Gynn]

Chauvin being cleared of all wrongdoing, I disagree. I believe the story that they've known each other prior to that altercation, and the cop was trying to get some petty revenge with his power as a police officer. Maybe not necessarily because of race, but there was some foul play and bad blood between them. He shouldn't be a cop ever again. A negligence charge would be a good idea. Maybe even third degree.

Good luck proving that he recognized him.

 

[DumbDude42]

I said they are a symptom of a dying culture. Look at tsarist Russia and pre Maoist as examples.

There is a long list of things coming which will cause a collapse. You may think climate change is a hoax. Thats fine. The antibiotic resistant diseases isnt. Social security becoming insolvent isnt a hoax. Many state and city level pension funds going bust isnt a hoax either. Nor is the decaying infrastructure.

Part of the reason the anti white rhetoric is becoming the norm is because many corporate monopolies are anxious from a working class uprising.

One way to fight this is via counter economics or agorism. A perfect example of this would be buying your food directly from your local farmer and not from wall mart. Or paying josh for hosting this website. Or forming an alternative to amazon and becoming a strong competitor. A guy named Ross W. Ulbricht managed such a feat. I wouldn't recommend what he did but still.

No matter if you think my ideas are dumb or just plain disagree the point remains the same. You need to find way to make it profitable to join you. Look at that black nascar driver. Was average but since he pulled that noose hoax hes a star. What do you have to offer to compete with that?

If you think those ideas are still too tame try economic warfare. Become a self appointed capo of your own little ancapy family, get some soldiers and get to work. Once you get a big enough war chest have your group pay for the needs of those loyal to you. Pay for their rent. Pay for their health care. Democrats win because there is a material advantage to do so. They give people free shit through the government. AKA other peoples money. I am saying support your followers directly.

The quickest way to get normies to support you is to pay them. Nothing changes someones mind quicker then the following phrase "Psst, you wanna make loads of money?"

Going via the "pay them approach" does have enormousness advantages getting people to join you. Especially if fighting for white interest. You dont have to tell them what you are fighting for. Just let them believe they are joining a company that gives them some very gainful employment. The pimple faced teen at good will doesnt care if his employer is making the world a better place. All he cares is if he gets paid or not.

As long you dont tell them you fighting for white interests (or whatever else ya aiming for) they wont care as long they get paid.

this is nonsense.
"start a darknet drug distribution operation to compete with amazon" and "pay people lots of money to join your own private militia" are ridiculous ideas.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

Real talk, is it bad if I want to see some future White defense militia that plays into the whole Yakub thing in their propaganda? I just think it would be fucking hilarious. "We are the sons of Yakub! Tricknology will rise again!"

If we have to have a race battle, I want to see us take up various flavors of paganism; like the Nordic gods, versus their nonsense, winner gets to be the new religion going forward. We can get a bunch of other cults and things in on it too. Maybe the heavens will really support Golden plates and magic underwear.

Unpopular opinion id wager: Chauvin needs to get the book thrown at him, it will satiate the mob(maybe?), then he can appeal it a bit down the line and be acquitted once all the hype dies now, and the black demographic has managed to turn the general population against them. If he walks, it just solidifies BLM's mentality that the systems stacked against them, and they'll ramp everything up to 11.

God help those jurors if they operate within the confines of the law and he walks, they wont make it home that day.

I said some pages back how we will find ourselves in a situation where we sacrifice one innocent man to save a country, or let the country burn and hold our value of justice.

 

[You're a Big Guy]

Real talk, is it bad if I want to see some future White defense militia that plays into the whole Yakub thing in their propaganda? I just think it would be fucking hilarious. "We are the sons of Yakub! Tricknology will rise again!"

"Our father returns, and our revolution begins. HEIL YAKUB, HEIL HIS BIG BRAINED MAJESTY!"

 

[Jump]

Chauvin will hang. No way the court let's him off now. There is no way they would allow anyone really impartial on the jury. They know every city will burn if he walks. The mother of all chimpouts.

 

[deeplyhigh]

Chauvin being cleared of all wrongdoing, I disagree. I believe the story that they've known each other prior to that altercation, and the cop was trying to get some petty revenge with his power as a police officer. Maybe not necessarily because of race, but there was some foul play and bad blood between them. He shouldn't be a cop ever again. A negligence charge would be a good idea. Maybe even third degree.

Third degree would never stick based on MN law because it requires proving it was a “depraved” action. Manslaughter even gets tricky because it was an approved method of restraint for the department. How would Chauvin be negligent when using an approved technique as taught to officers?



Chauvin also makes no indications that he recognizes Floyd in the body cam footage. Not when he first arrives on scene and not after he loads him into the ambulance. Maybe the shocked look on his face as he loaded Floyd into the ambulance is because he realized who he was or maybe not, but Chauvin never makes any comments or makes it seem like he recognizes Floyd.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Ha! Okay, I finished my real work.

Floyd was extremely intoxicated, as we know. He was acting erratically from the first moment officers interacted with him. Lane and Kueng were partners. I am not sure why two new and inexperienced officers would be paired up, but they were and were the first squad on the scene. Lane and Kueng noticed that the three occupants of the Mercedes SUV Floyd was driving were moving around a lot as they were walking up to the vehicle. Lane drew his gun just under two minutes into his footage because Floyd had his right hand out of sight and refused FOUR commands in ten seconds to show his hands. Lane later said that he thought Floyd might try to drive away. Floyd blubbers for a few seconds about getting shot by police before finally cooperating. Lane holsters his gun about 40 seconds after drawing it. Floyd continues to refuse to exit the vehicle, so Lane pulls him out and a struggle ensues for nearly a minute. Both Lane and Kueng are needed to get handcuffs onto Floyd. Kueng handles Floyd while Lane talks with the other car occupants. Floyd’s female friend implies that Floyd is crazy and makes a cuckoo gesture at her head to describe him. Kueng and Lane move Floyd across the street. While they’re moving him, Kueng notices foam around Floyd’s mouth. Floyd falls down several times and is generally uncooperative. He does not listen to orders and starts resisting again. They calm him down and start to search Floyd’s pockets, where a weed chillum pipe is found. Lane is calmly giving orders this whole time, explaining to Floyd that they can’t tell what he’s trying to do and is not following orders, which is why they are reacting how they are. Eight and a half minutes in, Floyd continues to refuse getting in the car, saying he is claustrophobic, “why don’t you believe me?” Floyd is completely delirious at this point, eyes extremely wide and wild looking. Foam at his mouth is visible. Floyd continues arguing about getting into the squad car for another minute or two. Kueng pushes Floyd down into the seat of the car and Floyd says he can’t breathe for the first time. He is nowhere near the ground when he starts complaining about not being able to breathe. Lane then says he is going to pull Floyd into the car. It seemed like Lane pulled too hard or Floyd pushed as he was pulling and Floyd ended up partially on top of Lane. This is when Floyd asks to be put on the ground, but it takes another minute until Floyd is on the ground. Chauvin and the Asian cop arrive while Floyd is still off the ground. Floyd is complaining about not being able to breathe again. Chauvin, Lane, and Kueng all take Floyd down to the ground completely after another struggle. Two officers lose their radios and Floyd’s shoe is knocked off. Floyd continues to kick and struggle on the ground, which is when Chauvin kneels on him and pins his left wrist back further in cuffs. Lane is calm once he gets Floyd’s legs pinned down. Veins were popping out of Floyd’s right arm. Floyd keeps moving and writhing on the ground as he says he can’t breathe. Chauvin and Lane both tell Floyd over the next few minutes to relax and that he’s using a lot of oxygen for someone who can’t breathe. Chauvin asks what Floyd is on and Lane asks Chauvin about PCP intoxication signs, says “isn’t that the shaking of the eyes?” Floyd is still moving and breathing for about four to five minutes while Chauvin has him pinned. When Floyd stops moving and breathing, it happens quickly in about 20-30 seconds and then Kueng is unable to feel a pulse. A crowd has gathered and is yelling at the officers. The Asian cop is on the sidewalk and controlling the crowd. He never touches Floyd. Chauvin seemed in shock and like he froze during the pinning. He barely moves during those few minutes, other than looking around at a white dangerhair who comes up yelling behind the officers and as we know from the crowd footage, looking at the crowd a few times. Other than that, he doesn’t move his hand that is pinning Floyd’s wrist or his leg and seemed stiff or frozen. EMS arrives about a minute after Kueng is unable to find a pulse; they were already en route. Chauvin releases his knee once EMS walks up to Floyd’s body and they move him to a stretcher using one of those white sheet things you see in old war movies. Chauvin looks like he is in shock.

Kueng goes back into Cup Foods to talk to the employees, who say that both Floyd and his dreadlocked male friend used fake bills. Floyd was successful and his friend was not. The manager said they also had more counterfeits, which is corroborated by the exhibit photos from the vehicle that show crumpled counterfeits in the seats.

Lane gets into the ambulance with EMS and starts CPR. Floyd has road rash on his left shoulder and left side of his face. He is also bleeding from his nose. Lane does compressions for a minute and a half until EMS puts on a compression machine. Lane then leaves the ambulance calmly. EMS was parked on the street around 40th Street administering CPR and was not driving towards a hospital. Lane gets into a fire truck that arrives and calmly recounts what happened to the firefighter. She seemed sympathetic, chats with Lane and laughs when talking about how nice the fire truck is. She wonders what Floyd was on and says “that’s a shame.” Lane is fiddling with handcuffs taken off Floyd. The firefighter tries to comfort Lane and says that if CPR is started early, chances are good. Lane gets out of the fire truck and checks with EMS. The compression machine is no longer on Floyd and EMS says he will be DOA to dispatch.

TL;DR: Floyd was extremely intoxicated, acted erratically, resisted several times, and didn’t follow orders. Chauvin seemed to freeze and was in shock. This is not 2nd degree murder, possibly negligent manslaughter at most. I don’t see how the other officers could be guilty of anything.

My initial thought was; Chauvin was a raging asshole having a power trip and inadvertently killed Floyd in the middle of it while his fellow officers were at least guilty of not getting him to back down. The more information that comes out about this the more it just looks like that at worst, they didn't know how to really deal with a 6 foot plus jogger high out of his mind and refusing to comply other than restraining him until EMS arrived. Chauvin and Thao still definitely look like assholes and could've handled it better but Lane and Keung now look wholly innocent and are just getting thrown under the bus and their lives ruined forever.

 

[Leominster]

Chauvin being cleared of all wrongdoing, I disagree. I believe the story that they've known each other prior to that altercation, and the cop was trying to get some petty revenge with his power as a police officer.

That story fell apart almost immediately.

A man who worked at the same club with George Floyd and Derek Chauvin – and previously told CBS News the two had "bumped heads" – changed his story Wednesday, saying he had mistaken Floyd for another unnamed African-American employee.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-nightclub-bumped-heads-changes-story/

https://archive.is/HxpeB

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

Not gonna lie, i think it is the funniest shit that there are black people that legitimately believe they’re the master race. Apparently black people were just good and peaceful until whitey came along and corrupted them. It’s so awesome seeing some of this “we wuz kangz” shit go mainstream.

Big Head Scientist Yakub is my creator and my master. I merely execute his will.

 

[DeadFish]

this is nonsense.
"start a darknet drug distribution operation to compete with amazon" and "pay people lots of money to join your own private militia" are ridiculous ideas.

So is talking about how to commit political violence on an open forum where feds might be watching.

My examples might be considered ridiculous. Fine. Doesnt change my view the best way to fight back is via economics. That can be from boycotting walmart and buying your food straight from the farmer to starting your own cartel.

Just sitting there isnt good. But direct violence or political action going get canceled. So this economic warfare angle best I can come up with for I think its easier to talk about how to make money with intent of causing an affect openly then it is about white rights (or whatever your cause is).

So my question is what the best way to fight back economically?

One thing is start paying josh.

 

[Meat Target]

I said some pages back how we will find ourselves in a situation where we sacrifice one innocent man to save a country, or let the country burn and hold our value of justice.

A guilty verdict for Chauvin will not save the country. Haven't you been paying attention? They can't be placated.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

6 foot plus jogger high out of his mind and refusing to comply

At that point there really is nothing else you can do other then use physical force, taser may or may not work and if it fails or even if it works physical force would still be needed. Pepper spray just will cause the entire area to get spicy making it harder for the cops to keep Floyd complying and the civilians would be bitching about getting some amount of spray.

That story fell apart almost immediately.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-nightclub-bumped-heads-changes-story/

https://archive.md/HxpeB

All black people look alike?

 

[DumbDude42]

So is talking about how to commit political violence on an open forum where feds might be watching.

My examples might be considered ridiculous. Fine. Doesnt change my view the best way to fight back is via economics. That can be from boycotting walmart and buying your food straight from the farmer to starting your own cartel.

Just sitting there isnt good. But direct violence or political action going get canceled. So this economic warfare angle best I can come up with.

the thing is that any meaningful economic activity, especially the kind of 'warfare' you talk about, requires organisation. and organisation is exactly what gets you cancelled, shut down, deplatformed, and unpersoned by the powers that be.
people are already getting fired from their jobs left and right for daring to disagree with the BLM narrative in private, so how on earth do you expect them to join open and public anti-BLM boycott groups?

So my question is what the best way to fight back economically?

there is none.
you can't expect to compete and push back against them inside the economic system that is completely under their control.

 

[Meat Target]

the thing is that any meaningful economic activity, especially the kind of 'warfare' you talk about, requires organisation. and organisation is exactly what gets you cancelled, shut down, deplatformed, and unpersoned by the powers that be.
people are already getting fired from their jobs left and right for daring to disagree with the BLM narrative in private, so how on earth do you expect them to join open and public anti-BLM boycott groups?

In addition, boycotts in the age of woke capitalism are just pissing in the wind.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

My initial thought was; Chauvin was a raging asshole having a power trip and inadvertently killed Floyd in the middle of it while his fellow officers were at least guilty of not getting him to back down. The more information that comes out about this the more it just looks like that at worst, they didn't know how to really deal with a 6 foot plus jogger high out of his mind and refusing to comply other than restraining him until EMS arrived. Chauvin and Thao still definitely look like assholes and could've handled it better but Lane and Keung now look wholly innocent and are just getting thrown under the bus and their lives ruined forever.

And so the crux of cynics eager for police reform everywhere will be proved right - even if the original death was somehow justified or misleading, it offered up a grand opportunity to get peoples' combined frustration to turn into real progress and action against abusive or counterproductive activities of the police. Yet that doesn't matter - because eeeeeverything has to be all or nothing for these retards, feet have been dragged and a whole narrative has been built up around something false that utterly utterly wastes all of the potential and allows the system to continue to protect its bad eggs and offenders to continue on as if nothing much had happened.

One day, one day, I hope to be able to realize the abject horror in the eyes and minds of my "activist" and "progressive" friends when they realize that the fervor and "revolution" rhetoric has contributed immensely to a complete lack of progress for upwards of 52 years for african americans. Those interested in delving into meaningful and more complete explanations for this trend can take a gander (if you make a throwaway account) here. Very solid article, highlights things you're never going to see these activists talk about - that, indeed, these activists make fucking worse in their urge to "be a part" of a fix-all. It's no fucking wonder that between the '90s crime bill and today there's been fuckall done - everything with a remote chance of going anywhere gets scuppered because it "doesn't go far enough." Great, so we've been sitting at the starting line for a good half a century then.

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

So what exactly is the judge's reasoning for letting members of the public and press view the video only under these specific circumstances and not just releasing the video without specific conditions attached?

Is it a move to let the press spin the footage the way they want before everyone can view it widely? Effectively turning it into a "who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes" situation?

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

One day, one day, I hope to be able to realize the abject horror in the eyes and minds of my "activist" and "progressive" friends

You will, when they lead you to the firing squad and you see them lying besides the wall they're leading you to. The look of shock frozen on their face will probably be amusing, for a moment.

 

[DeadFish]

the thing is that any meaningful economic activity, especially the kind of 'warfare' you talk about, requires organisation. and organisation is exactly what gets you cancelled, shut down, deplatformed, and unpersoned by the powers that be.
people are already getting fired from their jobs left and right for daring to disagree with the BLM narrative in private, so how on earth do you expect them to join open and public anti-BLM boycott groups?

The talk of money doesnt require your politics to be mentioned.
Open up a go fundme claiming your black cousin had a cross burned on his front lawn and take advantage of bleeding hearts is one way. That black nascar driver got alot of attention with his noose stunt.

Seriously are you trying get me to incriminate myself?

I understand folks here think more extreme measures are going be required but this is an open forum. With who knows who watching.

Yeah you could start a pyramid scheme but me telling that would be dumb. Or me telling you sell drugs to antifa types wouldnt be wise.

Or telling you to counterfeit money would get me on a watch list.

Economic violence means just that. It means doing whatever you can think of (and can do) to make money at expense of the opposition. If you need someone to list out such ideas in fine detail and line by line then no it wont happen.

The economic angle the only angle I can think of where one person who hates the left can organize normies top do their bidding (but leave their true intentions concealed)

The local 711 is owned by a muslim. The employees dont give a shit that he is one. Just as long he pays them. Same deal here.

If you cant get a big group on your side I am sure you can do something on your own to get ahead.

 

[tampax pearl]

The talk of money doesnt require your politics to be mentioned.
Open up a go fundme claiming your black cousin had a cross burned on his front lawn and take advantage of bleeding hearts is one way.

Seriously are you trying get me to incriminate myself?

I understand folks here think more extreme measures are going be required but this is an open forum. With who knows who watching.

Yeah you could start a pyramid scheme but me telling that would be dumb. Or me telling you sell drugs to antifa types wouldnt be wise.

Or telling you to counterfeit money would get me on a watch list.

Economic violence means just that. It means doing whatever you can think of (and can do) to make money at expense of the opposition. If you need someone to list out such ideas in fine detail and line by line then no it wont happen.

relax, fren! things will be fine.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

A guilty verdict for Chauvin will not save the country. Haven't you been paying attention? They can't be placated.

Well, "save" was probably the wrong word. Limit the destruction of the infrastructure to at least not a total loss? I still think this is ultimately a problem quickly remedied by live ammo. Maybe they just want the general public's frustration level to reach the boiling point where people will cheer for the destructive element to be put down.