U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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The problem is, institutions for the mentally unwell or the retarded were seen as "cruel". Which is absurd. Anyone who has ever seen "care in the community" in action will know the real fucking cruelty is in putting burdens like expecting retards or the intellectually sub par to pay rent or bills, putting them in 2community housing" or letting batshit insane people decide to not take their med that keep them stable and docile


It would sink like a lead balloon if any Government or Party announced it was going to bring asylumsor homes for mentally incapable people back because the electorate are fucking stupid, bleedingheart spastics who will happily pave the road to hell or commit unspeakable cruelty to vulnerable people and basically throw anyone and anything into the fire before they aver "adult up" (urgh, I fucking loathe that term) and do anything hard, difficult, uncomfortable or that makes them feel anything other than sheer unabashed joy that they're "living their best life"
Oh I totally agree it's a problem because the mentally ill oftentimes can't even find basic social services. A huge majority of our homeless population in this country a severely mentally ill who self medicate. and without proper treatment facilities and long-term medical facilities you don't want to release them into integrated housing or group homes because there are threat themselves and other people. However with proper care many of them can be rehabilitated to function with assistant living. However more often than not end up in jails and prisons. Costing billions and solving nothing.
 
I'm thinking at some point media credibility will collapse with the normies that leads to a red pilling. I don't want to believe that normal people are as bad as the Proles in "1984". (I always wondered what would happen if a natural disaster happened in 1984. "Nonsense comrade. Your house was always flooded!")

Right now these groups seem state sanctioned in Democrat cities. Unless they some how take root in republican areas they will fester in those Democrat cities or when they attempt to spread out they risk diffusion.

I'm thinking we have too many variables to just throw in the towel right now.
Granted, I live among right-of-center types, so I have bias. But people from my church to my place of work can all see this for the lunacy it is.

Also, with the coof crisis, the bread and sportsball pickin's are slim right now. And wokeshitters can't help but getting in people's faces to the point that normies are getting annoyed.

And of course, we must never surrender. We need to be ready to die on our feet instead of living on our knees.
 
What would you have funding go towards to "fix" race relations? I think we've tried throwing cash to everything from expanding school meal programs to rec centers for after-school safe places for kids, to free parenting programs, to giving away strollers and Pack-n-Plays... I just want to know where is the target that this money is missing that would actually help and not get wasted in bureaucracy, administration or Olde English 800.

Crack apart zoning regulations and incentivize construction (maybe of low-income housing, but really any housing at all), provide EITC boosts for low-earners, expand programs of school choice vouchers, bussing, and charter schools - and perhaps create incentive structures for public schools, only offering the bounty if those schools abandon their current approach of 'fuck it, just let the shits do whatever they want all day'. Increase accessibility - bussing, support structures, whatever - to skilled labor/vocational programs for kids who clearly are not going to be interested in school. EITC-based rent assistance for low-earners can also be solid, as can reworking how welfare works in general to offer bigger 'payouts' to people who work, rather than its current form of punishing people who earn income.

As you might have thought while looking over them, vested establishment interests will oppose all attempts at reform at all of these as they have for close to half a century. And their foot-soldier of choice are fashion progressives.
 
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Conservatives: Actually minorities agree with me the riots are bad and it's only WHITE PIECES OF SHIT who don't. Whitey white white white white. Did I mention they're all WHITE? I'm too scared to hold an opinion unless black people validate it. *Candace Owens video* *Thomas Sowell quote*

Crack apart zoning regulations and incentivize construction (maybe of low-income housing, but really any housing at all), provide EITC boosts for low-earners, expand programs of school choice vouchers, bussing, and charter schools - and perhaps create incentive structures for public schools, only offering the bounty if those schools abandon their current approach of 'fuck it, just let the shits do whatever they want all day'. Increase accessibility - bussing, support structures, whatever - to skilled labor/vocational programs for kids who clearly are not going to be interested in school. EITC-based rent assistance for low-earners can also be solid, as can reworking how welfare works in general to offer bigger 'payouts' to people who work, rather than its current form of punishing people who earn income.

We've tried all of this and it hasn't fixed shit with blacks. There's no evidence the black-white achievement gap is closeable.

Black society was far more functional under segregation than today. If we recreated those conditions, the Talented Tenth of blacks might go back to their own institutions and make them better, instead of getting AA sinecures in ours, but that's wrongthink and we can't dishonor Dr. Kang's dream like that.
 
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Crack apart zoning regulations and incentivize construction (maybe of low-income housing, but really any housing at all), provide EITC boosts for low-earners, expand programs of school choice vouchers, bussing, and charter schools - and perhaps create incentive structures for public schools, only offering the bounty if those schools abandon their current approach of 'fuck it, just let the shits do whatever they want all day'. Increase accessibility - bussing, support structures, whatever - to skilled labor/vocational programs for kids who clearly are not going to be interested in school. EITC-based rent assistance for low-earners can also be solid, as can reworking how welfare works in general to offer bigger 'payouts' to people who work, rather than its current form of punishing people who earn income.

As you might have thought while looking over them, vested establishment interests will oppose all attempts at reform at all of these as they have for close to half a century. And their foot-soldier of choice are fashion progressives.
The only problem with EITC expansion is that on tax day, the money is spent. Plus there are people who shuffle around SS numbers of their kids so one person is caretaker half the year. I've been asked myself if I had kids at a skeevy workplace so I got rather privy to the scams.

Regarding construction of low income housing, all that does is drag down property rates for the surrounding area. We had the Westlawn projects that have been torn down and rehabbed with beautiful apartment buildings very much unlike the ones that existed. They still get trashed and the tenants still have the same problems (violence, drugs, etc.) We also have the Thurgood Marshall Housing First initiative with 24 hour care and programs for chronically alcoholic or drug using homeless people. I tried to get information about the success rate of that initiative, it cost millions to build and I'd love to see the ROI but they are tight-lipped and send me to their website,

For the increased welfare to people who work, that would be nice but again, that's a once-a-year windfall that will be "reinvested into the community" the day they get it. That's what poor people who have no financial planning skills nor the desire to attain them, do.

So I'm still stuck at how more programs can overcome the culture of spend it when you get it and flash that shit, yo. The education is there, it's just woefully unused. It's cultural. There is not a program in the world that can fix that.
 
We've tried all of this and it hasn't fixed shit with blacks. There's no evidence the black-white achievement gap is closeable.

where'd I say you only do that for tyrone?
you could apply this shit to most moderate rust or bible belt towns, y'know, where all of the horrendously underperforming white future drug death statistics are sitting around in squalor


That damn racist history of improvement over time. Fucking white people.

Halting progress is the key there - and if you look at the way that welfare programs were designed (and then lionized), you'll note they seem very clearly intended to keep blacks as an underclass and incentivize 100% out of wedlock births. Using the cover of whites bad, established interests preserve the order of things and the useless divisions - or am I gonna pretend that the great society hasn't continued the spirit of crow - de facto segregation, de facto stagnation, de facto ceilings. Lefties unknowingly perpetuate it now and deflect it elsewhere, salivating at some dumb nobody hick saying something racist to scream at

with all that in mind, it also isn't as if there's a country that's done race shit better than the US on the whole. Turns out it isn't the easiest thing in the world to do, and Europe's idea of 'create parallel societies' only looks like it's working if you're viewing it in 480p from a distance of 300 yards


The only problem with EITC expansion is that on tax day, the money is spent. Plus there are people who shuffle around SS numbers of their kids so one person is caretaker half the year. I've been asked myself if I had kids at a skeevy workplace so I got rather privy to the scams.

Regarding construction of low income housing, all that does is drag down property rates for the surrounding area. We had the Westlawn projects that have been torn down and rehabbed with beautiful apartment buildings very much unlike the ones that existed. They still get trashed and the tenants still have the same problems (violence, drugs, etc.) We also have the Thurgood Marshall Housing First initiative with 24 hour care and programs for chronically alcoholic or drug using homeless people. I tried to get information about the success rate of that initiative, it cost millions to build and I'd love to see the ROI but they are tight-lipped and send me to their website,

For the increased welfare to people who work, that would be nice but again, that's a once-a-year windfall that will be "reinvested into the community" the day they get it. That's what poor people who have no financial planning skills nor the desire to attain them, do.

So I'm still stuck at how more programs can overcome the culture of spend it when you get it and flash that shit, yo. The education is there, it's just woefully unused. It's cultural. There is not a program in the world that can fix that.

Okay, so that money is spent. It's an incredibly minor sum, since it's essentially just the government taking less money - the businesses are paying these people the same amount of money. By the government taxing them a little less, they have more money. Sure, you need to get people to realize that banking is important, what the idea of saving is, so-on -- but an EITC credit affects everyone earning a low amount. You can let the people who spend their money stupidly at that point spend it stupidly - you're incentivizing work, you've tried to ease their burden, and no-one can claim that the program is forcing them to be serfs, like the modern welfare system does.

Low-income housing isn't even what I'm digging at with zoning. If a private investor wants to, whatever, that's more my angle with that. Cracking zoning at all period will lower the cost of housing for everyone all around the income scale. That's especially useful to urban poor, who have been getting fucked by NIMBYs blocking all construction except of ludicrously expensive luxury housing. Dealing with druggies and the homeless is a separate if tangential issue - the goal should be to focus on what gets in the way of someone actually doing the bootstraps thing. Stupidly inflated housing costs due to artificially limited supply is a big thing there.

Your goal isn't to save people who willingly buy into the worst shit, but to provide a means by which those who reject it can pull themselves up and out of it. There's impediments that currently exist, and which are mirrored over in white-trash-topia. These suggestions largely benefit both groups equally, while going after vested interests of yuppies most likely to go out marching and screeching about how good of people they are.
 
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Crack apart zoning regulations and incentivize construction (maybe of low-income housing, but really any housing at all), provide EITC boosts for low-earners, expand programs of school choice vouchers, bussing, and charter schools - and perhaps create incentive structures for public schools, only offering the bounty if those schools abandon their current approach of 'fuck it, just let the shits do whatever they want all day'. Increase accessibility - bussing, support structures, whatever - to skilled labor/vocational programs for kids who clearly are not going to be interested in school. EITC-based rent assistance for low-earners can also be solid, as can reworking how welfare works in general to offer bigger 'payouts' to people who work, rather than its current form of punishing people who earn income.

As you might have thought while looking over them, vested establishment interests will oppose all attempts at reform at all of these as they have for close to half a century. And their foot-soldier of choice are fashion progressives.
tl;dr push niggers into white suburbs to fuck up whitey who lives there, also need mo money fo dem programs!

yeah no thanks. that's literally the exact same approach that you retards have been implementing for almost 50 years now.
 
Granted, I live among right-of-center types, so I have bias. But people from my church to my place of work can all see this for the lunacy it is.

Also, with the coof crisis, the bread and sportsball pickin's are slim right now. And wokeshitters can't help but getting in people's faces to the point that normies are getting annoyed.

And of course, we must never surrender. We need to be ready to die on our feet instead of living on our knees.

Pretty much. I work with hardcore Catholics and the secretary is playing video's from Facebook about all the rioting and violence. They would never believe mainstream media.

I've also seen the dedication to the business. They would defend it when pushed.
 
where'd I say you only do that for tyrone?
you could apply this shit to most moderate rust or bible belt towns, y'know, where all of the horrendously underperforming white future drug death statistics are sitting around in squalor

True - I like some of the ideas you brought up in and of themselves (not zoning or bussing though, which would hurt affluent white areas instead of helping blacks...this is why white flight happened from cities in the 60s-70s), and they could help the bible/rust belt towns you're talking about. However, they still wouldn't close the black-white achievement gap.
 
that costs the public even more money than jailing them
Actually no not in the long run. Because if many of them can be rehabilitated they can also seek work services and start paying into the system with taxes. There are quite a few good work rehabilitation programs in my state that allow an individual to not only get social services for their mental issues and drug addictions as well as letting them learn job skills furthering their ability the support themselves. the goal with rehabilitation is allowing them to have as minimal support as possible. They go to prison they stay prison for the rest of their lives.
 
tl;dr push niggers into white suburbs to fuck up whitey who lives there, also need mo money fo dem programs!

yeah no thanks. that's literally the exact same approach that you retards have been implementing for almost 50 years now.

You know those giant, gentrified condos are largely popping up inside of cities and inside of poor neighborhoods, right? There's fuckall onerous zoning regulations out in the cultural mecca of shopping malls and chain restaurants; it's inside the cities, pushing out white and black working class further into the suburbs already. Bussing programs got the axe early on into their life-span, and charters usually open up right inside of cities.

People with cash move into the places with the best schools, which blocks out all people without cash from getting their kids out of shithole schools. The only people that get bussed opt into it (in this model, at least; forced bussing/integration is dubious), meaning the parents are likely to be invested in the behavior of their kids - and the schools are able to discipline them. This can also work for white kids born in shit neighborhoods as much as it can blackie. The system as-is benefits people with exorbitant capital already built-up -- not "I worked hard so my kids can go to a good school," more "I am from the upper middle class and don't want my kids to interact with the working class at all."

EITC has been demonized its entire existence because it's not literal cash welfare or easily embezzled into gubmint programs, and it benefits anyone that makes fuckall directly and lets them choose what they do for themselves.

but yeah, the alternative of bitch on the internet and wish for a mythical ethnostate is much much better - or rolling over to jamal's BBC ushering in a control economy because "none of these other alternatives will work, we just need to ship them to liberia, that's realistic" was the counterargument. I'm drawing from Sowell and Thomas here.


True - I like some of the ideas you brought up in and of themselves (not zoning or bussing though, which would hurt affluent white areas instead of helping blacks...this is why white flight happened from cities in the 60s-70s), and they could help the bible/rust belt towns you're talking about. However, they still wouldn't close the black-white achievement gap.

Are you worried about closing the white-asian gap, or the white-jewish gap? Probably not, because you feel like you've got a fair shake. You're probably mad at places where you feel like you don't. I'm not really concerned with 'closing' the gap so much as just getting rid of the barriers that are clear and obvious, like the design of the damn welfare system. Get rid of these barriers, make the country as close to 'equality of opportunity' for everyone as you can, and then let the chips fall where they may. Demographics will never have fully equal achievement stats - break apart 'white' into what european demographics you can and it's myriad as well. But the concern is moreso that you just give people the chance to fail on their own, regardless of who they are, as should be the American spirit. Rather than the current idea of "yassss upper middle class, let me protect your vested interests and manipulation of the system until I die"

Affluent white areas that pop up only because they abuse government regulations - I don't like 'em. I don't have a problem with them in suburbs, but they've been chewing into poor neighborhoods for a while now, largely thanks to the retardation that is rent control mixed in with zoning. White flight from cities had part to do with that, part to do with the insane violence rates. 2000-2010, these poor neighborhoods (of all demographics) had flattened rates of violence thanks to better policing and declining rates on the whole, but fell captive to NIMBYs and progressives. Now, luxury apartments aimed at out-of-town tech workers and chinese real estate have been popping up costing 3-4x the average rent for the area all in the span of the same 2-3 years, all under the flag of the same 1-2 capital funds. I don't quite like that.
 
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if many of them can be rehabilitated they can also seek work services and start paying into the system with taxes
bold and very unrealistic assumption my man
"rehabilitation" is wishful thinking

white people move into the places with nigger-free schools, which blocks out niggers from getting their kids out of nigger-filled schools.
ftfy. that's the truth of the matter.
and you want to stop/reverse this? fuck off retard, you are literally just trying to keep making things worse for white people.

your idea boils down to "fuck those fucking white people for moving away from niggers! we'll hunt them down and bring the niggers wherever they go until they have nowhere left to run!"
 
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bold and very unrealistic assumption my man
"rehabilitation" is wishful thinking
Rehabilitation programs reduce recidivism if they incorporate proven principles and are targeted to specific offenders. Research demonstrates that offenders who earn a high school equivalency diploma while behind bars are more likely to get jobs after release

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bold and very unrealistic assumption my man
"rehabilitation" is wishful thinking

Your contributions thusfar to anything related here have been "assassinate high-value targets" and "everything else is unrealistic". Yeah, targeted assassinations of these thought-leaders will definitely turn back the clock and not just lionize people - and it's definitely not an unrealistic suggestion. This is all astroturfed, no-one actually disagrees with you

You're not going to get Jim Crow back. You're not going to get a party that opposes civil rights. You're not going to get a party that says "let's not do anything, it's fine as-is." You're not going to get a party that pushes for the total removal of welfare and public funding. You're not going to get an ethnostate or a civil war in which the proud european boys all band together and put aside their alcoholism for a moment of tactical brilliance to push the nonwhites out of the country.

You're going to have everyone but the miniscule political fringe try to 'fix' the problem. You can either throw in with solutions that do the least harm, cost the least money, and have the best chance of 'success'... or you can essentially sit around and doompill, doing fuckall to push back against the 'solutions' that do the most harm, cost the most money, and have the least chance of success.

Or maybe Y2K was just 20 years off, and -this- time, our civilization will -definitely- fall apart
 
the 'solutions' that do the most harm, cost the most money, and have the least chance of success.
everything you propose falls exactly under this category: bus niggers into white schools so they can disrupt and ruin them, transplant niggers into white areas using govt housing schemes to disrupt and ruin white communities, mo money fo dem programs so you can increase the rate at which white people are bled dry to subsidize nigger parasites.

all your ideas are already in place, have already been done, are already established and implemented, and have been for decades. all they have done is make life worse for white people, while niggers aren't any better off than before either (some would argue they're actually worse off now than 40 years ago)
so what the FUCK makes you think that "keep doing what we're doing and just pump more money into gibs for nigs!" will now magically have the exact opposite effect of what it has been for the past few decades?
 
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