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Too Many Catgirls said:
If they wanted Kamala Harris, why didn't they vote for her when she was doing well? If they wanted Bernie Sanders, why didn't they vote for him when he was doing well?
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Keep in mind that many of them did, demanding that the DNC hold a "clean" primary this time (essentially admitting the last one was rigged). Thing was they did this while chanting "Blue no matter who!", explicitly telling the DNC that it didn't matter if the primary was legit. Which is where it comes back to what I said above... what they say is just excuses, they actually enjoy being toyed with and controlled.
 
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Jigglyjogglers said:
I've long since come to the inescapable conclusion that it's not that Democrat voters don't know their party is lying to them and manipulating them, and it's not even that they don't mind this, they actually really like it. They not only expect to be lied to but enjoy it. On some level they sincerely buy into that whole "the electorate is too stupid to make its own choices and needs to be lied to and manipulated for its own good" thing. I'm sure if you brought it up on a case-by-case basis they'd insist they don't, that they're smart and can handle the truth, but the sheer amount of groupthink and eagerness to swallow the party's line all the way up to the reel says otherwise.

And before some wit says "herp derp Republicans too" no, not really, maybe in the past but if the Republican voter base was so easy to be baited and brought into line as that, President Hillary Clinton would be busy ignoring covid because we'd have wound up with Jeb! as the Anointed Republican Candidate.
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Believe me, I'm well aware of this sentiment. My friend I've mentioned before will explicitly tell me sometimes how he thinks people in general are too stupid to handle their own lives, though his proposed solution is to have benevolent AIs run our society instead of democratically-elected representatives (which, as I brought up in FuhrerBob's thread, is even more retarded). He's become increasingly blackpilled over time and is probably close to becoming a hermit innawoods or something. I dunno, he's got problems, but he's good aside from that, which is why we don't talk politics often (and if we do, I don't antagonize, because he's coming pretty close to realizing how much bullshit there is on the left and I don't want to push him away).

I think a lot of them want a totalitarian dictatorship because they believe they'll be in a position of power due to spouting all the correct opinions and being on the Right Side of History™, unaware that they're the useful idiots that would be first against the wall once they've outlived their purpose.
 
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I think they keep Biden down in his basement because any time he is shown on tv and opens his mouth, he goes down in the polls.

I know he's a lolcow with his own thread, but Raz0rfist was pretty right on the money as far as I can tell with this strategy. Obama was fucking hated anytime he tried doing something like Obamacare, Benghazi cover-ups, etc. etc., and I think they're trying the same strategy: the less Biden you have to see, the more your own mind has to create the version of Biden you like in your head. The Biden you think you know and the real man are two polar opposites and his handlers are hoping you vote for him, but not for his actual opinions or anything. And of course, because he's not Trump. Because certainly worked four years ago right?
 
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King Dead said:
Believe me, I'm well aware of this sentiment. My friend I've mentioned before will explicitly tell me sometimes how he thinks people in general are too stupid to handle their own lives,
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We all are "too stupid" to live our lives perfectly and at optimum efficiency or happiness or whatever the ideal metric is

Which is why dictatorships and tech-oligarchies are doubly-stupid. HUMANS run those systems too, either by personal fiat or by designing the algorithms.

If it was set up by humans, it's destined to cause stupid outcomes, nothing created BY humans is good enough to rule all, no questions asked.

Direct democracy may be condescendingly called mob rule, but I see it as "The best out of a bunch of proposed ideas on governing, all of them bad" because the alternative to "mob" rule is "one guy/gal sets all the rules and you follow them or else" At least the former gives you the chance to follow a different idiot at set intervals.....


Jigglyjogglers said:
Keep in mind that many of them did, demanding that the DNC hold a "clean" primary this time (essentially admitting the last one was rigged). Thing was they did this while chanting "Blue no matter who!", explicitly telling the DNC that it didn't matter if the primary was legit. Which is where it comes back to what I said above... what they say is just excuses, they actually enjoy being toyed with and controlled.
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They know it's a lie, but, they THINK (a la' Movie Bob) that they're being clever and subversive by saying "A" in public but working for "B" just below the surface, they think they're all Machiavellian-tier masterminds and kingmakers, they don't get they're just useful idiots.

They know the official party line is bunk and the stated goals are untrue, they just think, on a person-by-person basis that they're the "smart one" for "knowing" that it's all a lie, and believing that the "better future/greater good" that will come from this duplicity will be worth it, that the integrity of society isn't harmed by having corrupt leadership.

Voting for the Democrats is not just a virtue signal, but an ego boost, ways to say "I'm so smart and perfect" without recognizing the "cost" of those signals is the systematic dismantling of civil liberties.

Or worse, thinking it WON'T EFFECT THEM. (cancel culture would NEVER come for me, I'm one of the secret ruling class!)
 
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King Dead said:
Meanwhile, the Democrats are nominating a man who has, if not dementia specifically, then at least some form of cognitive decline, and it's only getting worse. I know some are diehard vote-blue-no-matter-who types, but then you have those who are rationalizing it by saying "I'm voting for the VP pick, of course they'll get rid of Sleepy Joe immediately after inauguration," which is even worse. At least the former is just blind party loyalty; the latter is willfully choosing to ignore the result of the democratic process and vote for a candidate that the country as a whole had no say in.

The one bit of solace i can take in all this is that these commenters are probably Millennials that won't go out and vote anyway.
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My mind immediately shifts toward the worst possible scenario: Sleepy Joe makes Hillary Clinton his VP pick.
 
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Bag of Asses said:
My mind immediately shifts toward the worst possible scenario: Sleepy Joe makes Hillary Clinton his VP pick.
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I keep sayin'.

That's why they haven't announced it yet, despite the fact that they've been yapping so much about it and it would be natural to have done so. The primary reason to pull a stunt like that is that they think the pick is going to be so unpopular they can't give people time to talk themselves out of voting for him, and that's Hillary. They'll delay it until October if they can.
 
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Jigglyjogglers said:
I keep sayin'.

That's why they haven't announced it yet, despite the fact that they've been yapping so much about it and it would be natural to have done so. The primary reason to pull a stunt like that is that they think the pick is going to be so unpopular they can't give people time to talk themselves out of voting for him, and that's Hillary. They'll delay it until October if they can.
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I hate how likely this is. FUCK 2020.
 
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Flexo said:
This sounds like a wonderful idea. What could possibly go wrong?

Flexo 2020! Don't vote for that @Bender fellow.
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I agree, I'd get America fixed in a couple of months, @Flexo would first spend a bunch of time grooming his metal goatee, and then he'd probably fix the problems better than I ever could. But really, @Flexo's vanity will just distract us from the real issue: we need to take action and nuke Earth!
 
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Bender said:
I agree, I'd get America fixed in a couple of months, @Flexo would first spend a bunch of time grooming his metal goatee, and then he'd probably fix the problems better than I ever could. But really, @Flexo's vanity will just distract us from the real issue: we need to take action and nuke Earth!
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See, my drunken colleague @Bender here proposes a quick and painless end to humans. While I promise you all that politicians and media figures will be killed first! So you all get to watch.

Then I will kill the rest of you painlessly.

And I will ensure all your pets are set up with good robot parents with only a 40% chance of processing them for biofuel.
 
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Jigglyjogglers said:
I keep sayin'.

That's why they haven't announced it yet, despite the fact that they've been yapping so much about it and it would be natural to have done so. The primary reason to pull a stunt like that is that they think the pick is going to be so unpopular they can't give people time to talk themselves out of voting for him, and that's Hillary. They'll delay it until October if they can.
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Giving people an entire month to mull over the possibility of a Hilary VP pick is too long, in order for this to "work". (Personally, I think Biden will lose regardless, but that's just me)They'd basically have to wait until November, which probably won't work.
 
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FunPosting101 said:
Giving people an entire month to mull over the possibility of a Hilary VP pick is too long, in order for this to "work". (Personally, I think Biden will lose regardless, but that's just me)They'd basically have to wait until November, which probably won't work.
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They'll definitely keep the interval as short as they can. I've little doubt they've crunched the numbers and decided that the ones they'd lose to immediate outrage would be less than the ones who lost all steam or enthusiasm and just didn't show up to vote after months of thinking of voting for Hillary again.

Still, Hillary as his VP pick is the thing that makes the most amount of sense for why they haven't announced yet. Having Biden lurk in his bunker and only come out for enough appearances to assure everyone he's not dead is definitely better than actually having him campaign for them, but they can't think it's better than actively running a campaign would be. They know and the voters know that they're voting for the VP pick anyway, why not make that pick and let the VP do the campaigning? What's the worst that could happen, they get called on it? As if they're not getting called on it now?

No, the VP pick is someone they know will lose them more voters the longer they're known about, and that fits Hillary to a T. They've got a good thing going in the media painting her as the uncrowned queen of virtue and glory, but the voter base was apathetic about her last time and much of it is still openly hostile towards her now. The only other one that makes sense is in fact Kamala Harris and they're worried about the current anti-cop sentiment if they reveal her now, but to me that just doesn't seem as likely, she doesn't seem to have the same amount of political weight to throw around as Hillary to get the DNC to pull a fast one like that for her.
 
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Flexo said:
See, my drunken colleague @Bender here proposes a quick and painless end to humans. While I promise you all that politicians and media figures will be killed first! So you all get to watch.

Then I will kill the rest of you painlessly.

And I will ensure all your pets are set up with good robot parents with only a 40% chance of processing them for biofuel.
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Oh, crap, maybe I shouldn't have turned all those pets into delicious meals.
 
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