Orbiter 🏳️‍🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

>Ben Shapiro publicly denounces cancel culture
post 110 tweets about how he didn't denounce it hard enough
>meanwhile Milo openly endorses it
*crickets* but he a BASED cuckservative racemixing gay jew muh fellow groypers

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>Ben Shapiro publicly denounces cancel culture
post 110 tweets about how he didn't denounce it hard enough
>meanwhile Milo openly endorses it
*crickets* but he a BASED cuckservative racemixing gay jew muh fellow groypers
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That Milo tweet is non-ironically consistent with what Nick has said, though. He's said that he believes that the Right should use the same tactics on Leftists. Playing identity politics against the Left comes to mind.
 
That Milo tweet is non-ironically consistent with what Nick has said, though. He's said that he believes that the Right should use the same tactics on Leftists.
I very much agree with that strategy except for the fact that it's not what Milo has in mind, since he does not go after leftists anymore. Just as Shapiro has tried to cancel the groypers in the past, which is something Nick loves railing on about, the people Milo tries to cancel are further on the right. The only difference is that their interests align for the time being in going against the wignats, but the hypocrisy is still there to be pointed out.

Although in theory if we were to go by Milo's recent statements on the Killstream and Nick's own purported goals, and I'm thinking about that reply to Kevin MacDonald's tweet in particular, Fuentes should also be well within Milo's sights. But it's hard to even know what the fuck AF stands for really because what they LARP about is not indicative of the actual reality of their movement.
 
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That Milo tweet is non-ironically consistent with what Nick has said, though. He's said that he believes that the Right should use the same tactics on Leftists. Playing identity politics against the Left comes to mind.
Playing identity politics against the Left? That's quite the doublethink. To me that sounds like the same thing as Charlie Kirk bringing in a black army vet (who is also gay) and using that as a 'gotcha' against any accusation of bigotry by the Left.

I say its a doublethink on Nick's part because he literally railed against that during the original Groyper War. That was like the main point of contention between him and Charlie.

Unless it means to keep ranting about Jews, which he does a lot anyways. I mean that isn't good optics either and comes off as too 'wignattish' despite what Nick says about himself. There's a fine line to tread when you're trying to advocate for less Israel support and not coming off as a wignat.

Even then I don't see the point of trying to use the same tactics Leftists use when you're trying to advocate a Pro-White movement. Making a White Antifa or CHAZ? Cops will arrest and shoot them and if they're really lucky, set up a Waco-type scenario that'll leave half of the country vilifiying them as crazy terrorists. Trying to use IdPol against the Left? As soon as a white man talks about his European heritage it's Spencer 2.0, and as soon as he even dares to mention Jews (or say if he's really trying to mimic the left, describing it as 'Jewish privilege') he'll be labeled as an antisemite on the media and gets forever blacklisted.
 
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Playing identity politics against the Left? That's quite the doublethink. To me that sounds like the same thing as Charlie Kirk bringing in a black army vet (who is also gay) and using that as a 'gotcha' against any accusation of bigotry by the Left.

I say its a doublethink on Nick's part because he literally railed against that during the original Groyper War. That was like the main point of contention between him and Charlie.
That's not how I meant it, but I can understand the confusion. Perhaps I shouldn't have phrased that as "against the Left". From what I've seen it's not "lets bring in this BASED black guy" like what Kirk does, I meant "playing identity politics" as in advocating a white perspective in the discussions rather than the Kirk/Shapiro civic nationalist approach. Not in a white nationalist way that's demanding the expulsions of everyone else or anything, but stuff like straight up saying "Why exactly should America not stay a white country? Why would I ever want all of this brown immigration? When are we ever going to stop shitting on white people all of the time?" and the like.
 
>Ben Shapiro publicly denounces cancel culture
post 110 tweets about how he didn't denounce it hard enough
>meanwhile Milo openly endorses it
*crickets* but he a BASED cuckservative racemixing gay jew muh fellow groypers

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A foreign national pushing for more divisiveness amongst the US population, and more poisoned bad-faith discourse in American speech and politics? Hmm, this ones hard to figure out. Honestly, though, does Milo spend half the year living in the US? Shouldn't there be plenty of UK politics he could focus on? I wish he would, along with every other slimy prick that never shuts up about American politics, even though they'll never be here having to deal with the outcome and consequences of the retarded ideas they push

That's not how I meant it, but I can understand the confusion. Perhaps I shouldn't have phrased that as "against the Left". From what I've seen it's not "lets bring in this BASED black guy" like what Kirk does, I meant "playing identity politics" as in advocating a white perspective in the discussions rather than the Kirk/Shapiro civic nationalist approach. Not in a white nationalist way that's demanding the expulsions of everyone else or anything, but stuff like straight up saying "Why exactly should America not stay a white country? Why would I ever want all of this brown immigration? When are we ever going to stop shitting on white people all of the time?" and the like.
That would be the opposite of cancel culture though. That'd be more free speech, and the ability to speak honestly,about your beliefs and outlook, which if Nick and Milo had their way, would be even more impossible with everyone adopting cancel culture. If Nick isn't an actual shill or agent, then he's way too much of a shallow and limited thinker to be leading anything more serious than a gossip panel

lol, Nick dreams of Kami whenever he's experiencing backpain😂 Dirty lil Spicolas got his back blown tf out by Kami a whole bunch. Katboi made lil Nicki fall in love with him n everything . Now Nick's texting him after waking up from a nightmare in the middle of the night, needing to be reassured by his man, so he can feel safe enough to fall back asleep, aww☺. Look how happy and animated he looks just recounting a short text exchange with his lover, He even needed to sip some water to cool down.

@Grand Wizard Wakka awesome catch on this
 
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That's not how I meant it, but I can understand the confusion. Perhaps I shouldn't have phrased that as "against the Left". From what I've seen it's not "lets bring in this BASED black guy" like what Kirk does, I meant "playing identity politics" as in advocating a white perspective in the discussions rather than the Kirk/Shapiro civic nationalist approach. Not in a white nationalist way that's demanding the expulsions of everyone else or anything, but stuff like straight up saying "Why exactly should America not stay a white country? Why would I ever want all of this brown immigration? When are we ever going to stop shitting on white people all of the time?" and the like.
Oh I get it! My bad earlier. In that regard that does make sense. I just thought it was referring to the mainstream conservative 'approach'.
 
I very much agree with that strategy except for the fact that it's not what Milo has in mind, since he does not go after leftists anymore. Just as Shapiro has tried to cancel the groypers in the past, which is something Nick loves railing on about, the people Milo tries to cancel are further on the right. The only difference is that their interests align for the time being in going against the wignats, but the hypocrisy is still there to be pointed out.

Although in theory if we were to go by Milo's recent statements on the Killstream and Nick's own purported goals, and I'm thinking about that reply to Kevin MacDonald's tweet in particular, Fuentes should also be well within Milo's sights. But it's hard to even know what the fuck AF stands for really because what they LARP about is not indicative of the actual reality of their movement.

They're pushing for white nationalism with an end to mass immigration and financial support of Israel, but they also incorporate Catholic fundementalism, which comes off as incredibly insincere given that Nick sounds a possibly gay incel and definitely doesn't seem very pious. Personally I'd say Nick himself is a wignat, in that he's incredibly embarrassing from the viewpoint of anyone outside his area of politics, or anyone who has ever got laid much. Successful white nationalist politicians in central/eastern Europe don't sound anything like him.
 
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>Ben Shapiro publicly denounces cancel culture
post 110 tweets about how he didn't denounce it hard enough
>meanwhile Milo openly endorses it
*crickets* but he a BASED cuckservative racemixing gay jew muh fellow groypers

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Milo's endgame is so fucking transparent and he's not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. I wish the Right could at least get the clever Jews instead of these drunk rejects. If he got his way he would be trying to get people excommunicated for being homophobic. If you gave this aging queen any power or influence he would immediately try to bring down the Catholic Church from the inside too.

Otherwise I agree with others in the thread that the Right wants cancel culture, and I think it's unironically a good thing. I mean, we obviously should, that's how you have a society. We should "cancel" pedophiles, rapists, criminals, mouthy sluts, gay communists, greedy assholes, uppity blacks, and a host of others. We used to do it all the time, society only went to shit when we inverted it.
 
That Milo tweet is non-ironically consistent with what Nick has said, though. He's said that he believes that the Right should use the same tactics on Leftists. Playing identity politics against the Left comes to mind.
Cancel Culture won't end until the cultural elites who fan these flames feel it. If that means pushing for the cancellation of Rowling, Kimmel, et al, so be it. I think conservatives are way too eager to let their opponents get away with this kind of crap in the name of "muh free speech." Get the Left to eat itself, because the right - normie, wignat, or otherwise - isn't really going to do too much damage to the Left.

To assume this is what Milo or Nick means by this? That's assuming these guys are thinking about anything beyond their immediate e-fame.\

Otherwise I agree with others in the thread that the Right wants cancel culture, and I think it's unironically a good thing. I mean, we obviously should, that's how you have a society. We should "cancel" pedophiles, rapists, criminals, mouthy sluts, gay communists, greedy assholes, uppity blacks, and a host of others. We used to do it all the time, society only went to shit when we inverted it.
Free speech absolutism in and of itself is as juvenile as it is impractical. No where can you argue that the Founding Fathers or any such authority believed that "Freedom of Speech" meant protection of pornography or obscenity. This round of Left-wing oriented "cancellation" was inevitable given the vacuum that the end of culturally "conservative" cancellation created.
 
Free speech absolutism in and of itself is as juvenile as it is impractical. No where can you argue that the Founding Fathers or any such authority believed that "Freedom of Speech" meant protection of pornography or obscenity. This round of Left-wing oriented "cancellation" was inevitable given the vacuum that the end of culturally "conservative" cancellation created.

This is what I detest about the free speech people, the line was always "we need to have an open and honest conversation about these topics."
We have. We had those conversations, there are no more conversations to have about these fundamental topics. Abortion, gay acceptance, transgenderism, religion, there's no new argument to be said or written. Here's the thing: at some point, we need to figure out what is right or wrong, acceptable or unacceptable, good for society or bad for society.
I also think the Conservative cancellation period was better for society. I may have said this before, but what was the worst thing everyone talks about? Saying violent video games and degenerate music is bad for children? Here's something the Gamergate people are not going to like: they were right. Sure it can be moderated like anything else, but if you raise a child on violent media it will fuck them up, just like if you raise them on pornography. I don't know any reasonable person that would argue that. What else, gay people shouldn't marry? Good, fuck them, nobody cares. You should wait until marriage for sex? Yeah, that would actually be better, especially in light of the slut hellscape we are left with now. Can anyone look around now and deny they might have had a point?
I remember they pinned the whole "satanic panic" on the uppity church ladies and evangelical America losing its mind. Fast forward to now, ooooooooh there were actually weird child sex cults going on back then, this wasn't just all cooked up in the mind of mean moms who want to take your gay comic books away.
 
No one's actually against cancel culture. The same conservatives outraged about people getting 'cancelled' are the ones demanding that people be fired for not standing up for the anthem and not being unquestionably loyal to Israel. People only 'oppose' it when it's someone they like or agree with.

Little Benji Shapiro may claim to be against cancel culture, but are we going to pretend that he wouldn't be the first to try and cancel someone for hating Israel or being critical of Jews?

Milo's a retard, but at least he's being honest about what cancel culture really is.
 
Little Benji Shapiro may claim to be against cancel culture, but are we going to pretend that he wouldn't be the first to try and cancel someone for hating Israel or being critical of Jews?
I'm not slogging through that entire Rubin Report to find the clip, but there was an episode where Shapiro basically said people further to the right of him should lose their jobs.
 
This is what I detest about the free speech people, the line was always "we need to have an open and honest conversation about these topics."
We have. We had those conversations, there are no more conversations to have about these fundamental topics. Abortion, gay acceptance, transgenderism, religion, there's no new argument to be said or written. Here's the thing: at some point, we need to figure out what is right or wrong, acceptable or unacceptable, good for society or bad for society.
I also think the Conservative cancellation period was better for society. I may have said this before, but what was the worst thing everyone talks about? Saying violent video games and degenerate music is bad for children? Here's something the Gamergate people are not going to like: they were right. Sure it can be moderated like anything else, but if you raise a child on violent media it will fuck them up, just like if you raise them on pornography. I don't know any reasonable person that would argue that. What else, gay people shouldn't marry? Good, fuck them, nobody cares. You should wait until marriage for sex? Yeah, that would actually be better, especially in light of the slut hellscape we are left with now. Can anyone look around now and deny they might have had a point?
I remember they pinned the whole "satanic panic" on the uppity church ladies and evangelical America losing its mind. Fast forward to now, ooooooooh there were actually weird child sex cults going on back then, this wasn't just all cooked up in the mind of mean moms who want to take your gay comic books away.
Most of this based stuff was started or advocated by Protestants and Evangelicals at least within the US. The same people TradCaths (and even Orthodox LARPers) love to shit on and they often claim 'credit' for it too. "Pfft, these Prots, am I right?"

While the Catholic Church may have had some part in the Satanic Panic in the 80s to 90s it was the Protestants and Evangelicals doing most of it. The Westboro Baptist Church were Protestant too. Same for other fundie-lolcows from the old internet like James the Preacher.

Although I'm pretty sure most of the Evangelicals are still Israel-supporters.
 
Milo is right. What works is right. No point being a whinging loser.
 
This is what I detest about the free speech people, the line was always "we need to have an open and honest conversation about these topics."
We have. We had those conversations, there are no more conversations to have about these fundamental topics. Abortion, gay acceptance, transgenderism, religion, there's no new argument to be said or written. Here's the thing: at some point, we need to figure out what is right or wrong, acceptable or unacceptable, good for society or bad for society.
I also think the Conservative cancellation period was better for society. I may have said this before, but what was the worst thing everyone talks about? Saying violent video games and degenerate music is bad for children? Here's something the Gamergate people are not going to like: they were right. Sure it can be moderated like anything else, but if you raise a child on violent media it will fuck them up, just like if you raise them on pornography. I don't know any reasonable person that would argue that. What else, gay people shouldn't marry? Good, fuck them, nobody cares. You should wait until marriage for sex? Yeah, that would actually be better, especially in light of the slut hellscape we are left with now. Can anyone look around now and deny they might have had a point?
I remember they pinned the whole "satanic panic" on the uppity church ladies and evangelical America losing its mind. Fast forward to now, ooooooooh there were actually weird child sex cults going on back then, this wasn't just all cooked up in the mind of mean moms who want to take your gay comic books away.

A lot of the Protestant Evangelical Right literally thought the earth was 6000 years old and radio carbon dating was a conspiracy. We don't see much of them anymore so some people have forgotten but they were some of the absolute stupidest people I've ever seen in my life. They weren't "based" unless that actually means retarded now.

Catholics, to their credit, don't officially deny evolution. Lemaitre was a Catholic priest even. I don't expect to see any of that stuff coming from the groyper movement as a result.
 
The fuck is he even trying to say

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Vindicated how? He's even more bad optics? Sure he can do edgy stuff, but for someone who said anyone who wasn't good optics during the groyper war was a fed, I can't imagine this is the epitome of optics. The only vindication I imagine he could be referring to is he thinks this means Catboykami is on their side. Is edgy comedy really all America First is about? That's even less principled than the GOP establishment then.

And it wasn't just Vaush who was against him. There is a loud portion of actual tradcaths who think he is ruining their religion by saying he is tradcath and then associating with Catboykami.
 
Vindicated how? He's even more bad optics? Sure he can do edgy stuff, but for someone who said anyone who wasn't good optics during the groyper war was a fed, I can't imagine this is the epitome of optics. The only vindication I imagine he could be referring to is he thinks this means Catboykami is on their side. Is edgy comedy really all America First is about? That's even less principled than the GOP establishment then.

And it wasn't just Vaush who was against him. There is a loud portion of actual tradcaths who think he is ruining their religion by saying he is tradcath and then associating with Catboykami.

I completely understand that. If I was a Catholic fundamentalist I wouldn't want to be associated with freaks like Fuentes either.
 
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