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Louis "Lou" Gagliardi / Ash Franzetti / Alex 'Ace' Maddox / Tegan Ainsley / Taryn Amita / Diana / gothickitteh / ashkat724 / Lynn Brooks / @acekatt - #T R A M S _ C R O W _ F U N D *buys 12 iPads* "Anyone got $600 they can spare?" *spits on cancer patient*
Still drunk but I PROMISE I will show up by the morning light to display my artistic talents I don't shirk my responsibilities to my fellow Kiwis. Be patient please? Pretty please? lol
I just got a subpar order from Grubhub for KFC today. I just passed my closest location when I walked (WALKED) to the liquor store for my WANTS (a half-pint of vodka) in over 90 degree temps and I am a white bitch trekking down MLK Drive in fucking MILWAUKEE. I chose to order because the MLK location is nasty af.
I have the night to myself so I ordered from an alternate location and surprise, they fucked it up. Now, I order about once every two weeks and it's always acceptable if not downright awesome. This time I got a refund of my entire order when I called GrubHub customer service. Like, within ten minutes of my phone call. You know why, Lou? Because they see I am a good customer.
I tipped the driver on my CC as well as with folding money in hand. Poor Sikh driver had nothing to do with this particular nigga moment. He gets his no matter what. You know what, Lou? Drivers HATE you because you never tip, guaranteed.
eta: I can draw a bit. Give me a drunken second and I can cleave together a passable headshot of a fox, no probs.
Louie must have never heard the maxim "don't shoot the messenger/courier" growing up, or if he did he took it entirely literally because of his potential Autism. Since common sayings utterly confound Louie, I'll explain what that means. It means that if you're not happy with the message/package that you don't blame whoever delivered it. It isn't their fault, so don't be an asshole towards them (and I know not being a shitty person is extremely difficult for Louie since it's such a huge part of his identity). And you always tip your servers/delivery drivers. The people who work those kinds of jobs make very little from the job itself because they make the bulk of their income from tips. So withholding tips over something that isn't their fault is about the scummiest, shittiest thing you can do and it's a surefire way to get labeled "one of those customers" and get terrible service going forward.
Short answer is that they don't. At that price range, even though digital art can be a bit faster to create, you are looking at a paid hobby or a side gig at best.
@Spunt got it pretty much on the money here, most people you're seeing offering commissions online like this do it as a hobby and work a regular job as well. If they're doing it in this sort of quality/price range and claim it's their actual job, it means they're another basement furry living rent-free with their parents, which is also quite common. The alternatives are... not great, a lot of the bigger furry artists who DO take commissions as their primary income do so by higher prices ($100+ per piece), being very quick, and very questionable business practices where they take the money upfront when you go into the queue, then having queues often over 100 customers deep. The furry fandom is a wierd place where people are willing to wait literally years for their art despite having already paid and I don't like it at all; the end result is many artists running a sort of hat game where they'll constantly open sales when they need more cash and then just build the queue into oblivion. The minimally responsible ones actually do the art, the rest... well, there's a reason Artist_Beware exists. The furry art community is a minefield of scandal, drama, and thousands of dollars floating in the ether.
I do my work in the $80-$200 range, and I generally take about three days per piece working digitally. Only take money when the specific piece is started. Get a pretty good amount of business. I would NEVER feel secure not having a daytime job, because freelance for private commissions is so feast or famine and there's a ton of logistics of figuring out your business expenses and seller's license and retirement and healthcare and shit that come with being a freelancer fulltime.
Furry in particular is a wierd fandom to draw for because it pays better than most hobbyist/private markets but significantly less than 'real' freelance for commercial clients. For people I know who are doing the full artist hustle, the price range is exponentially higher. I have a friend who does cat portraits starting at $300, complete artistic freedom, and she does them very selectively and normally works doing VFX. I have another who doesn't particularly like doing private commissions so he just keeps raising his prices but people still keep buying; his illustrations are like $1000+, but he also works 3-5 commercial illustration gigs concurrently at any given time AND I think he's also doing a comic run for Marvel right now? Idk, the moral of the story is it's a fuckin' HUSTLE to be a fulltime artist and make a respectable living, even the most successful furries doing it are typically living with three roommates and having emergency sales every other tuesday.
Don't quit your day job lol.
@Spunt got it pretty much on the money here, most people you're seeing offering commissions online like this do it as a hobby and work a regular job as well. If they're doing it in this sort of quality/price range and claim it's their actual job, it means they're another basement furry living rent-free with their parents, which is also quite common. The alternatives are... not great, a lot of the bigger furry artists who DO take commissions as their primary income do so by higher prices ($100+ per piece), being very quick, and very questionable business practices where they take the money upfront when you go into the queue, then having queues often over 100 customers deep. The furry fandom is a wierd place where people are willing to wait literally years for their art despite having already paid and I don't like it at all; the end result is many artists running a sort of hat game where they'll constantly open sales when they need more cash and then just build the queue into oblivion. The minimally responsible ones actually do the art, the rest... well, there's a reason Artist_Beware exists. The furry art community is a minefield of scandal, drama, and thousands of dollars floating in the ether.
I do my work in the $80-$200 range, and I generally take about three days per piece working digitally. Only take money when the specific piece is started. Get a pretty good amount of business. I would NEVER feel secure not having a daytime job, because freelance for private commissions is so feast or famine and there's a ton of logistics of figuring out your business expenses and seller's license and retirement and healthcare and shit that come with being a freelancer fulltime.
Furry in particular is a wierd fandom to draw for because it pays better than most hobbyist/private markets but significantly less than 'real' freelance for commercial clients. For people I know who are doing the full artist hustle, the price range is exponentially higher. I have a friend who does cat portraits starting at $300, complete artistic freedom, and she does them very selectively and normally works doing VFX. I have another who doesn't particularly like doing private commissions so he just keeps raising his prices but people still keep buying; his illustrations are like $1000+, but he also works 3-5 commercial illustration gigs concurrently at any given time AND I think he's also doing a comic run for Marvel right now? Idk, the moral of the story is it's a fuckin' HUSTLE to be a fulltime artist and make a respectable living, even the most successful furries doing it are typically living with three roommates and having emergency sales every other tuesday.
Don't quit your day job lol.
The furry fandom pays better than most because you have a lot of furries living in mommy's basement, collecting NEETbux, with no financial responsibilities to take up their money. So they tend to have a lot of disposable cash to blow on fan art, video games, and MLP plushies.
I can't fathom what this tweet means. How do your clothes just disappear? Does he mean his shorts disappeared inside his massive ass crack? Is this another prep for the next grift where he needs to buy new clothes yet again? Putting sweatpants in the shorts? Wot View attachment 1453820
I can only come up with one thing that reasonably explains what the fuck Lou is talking about here. Maybe he was trying to type "Make some sweatpants into shorts etc." and somehow auto-correct changed them to 'put' and 'in the'? Might be a stretch, but it's the only thing that comes to mind. Lou's thoughts and actions defy explanation, so it's probably not worth the time trying to figure out what this fat re.tard is trying to say.
Jesus Christ what a fucking retard. Lou, I'm saying this, again, completely honestly, get some professional help.
And insulin and sedatives. I don't mind this thread dying from lack of content if it means you won't assault an innocent bystander or your relatives.
Jesus Christ what a fucking retard. Lou, I'm saying this, again, completely honestly, get some professional help.
And insulin and sedatives. I don't mind this thread dying from lack of content if it means you won't assault an innocent bystander or your relatives.
I get the feeling he’s only this brave behind a computer screen.
also why does he need a patreon? People who beg for money daily do not have enough disposable “income” to offer up on such optional services. He lives like someone with a 50k+ salary.
How nice of him to pull the anti-semitism card hours after getting into an extraordinarily retarded and unhinged e-slapfight with a gay Jewish journalist, who actually faced personal danger!
That's not a fallacy Lou, it's just common decency. I find it curious that Lou brings up "shooting the messenger" just a day after @The Dude's post about it in this very thread:
Louie must have never heard the maxim "don't shoot the messenger/courier" growing up, or if he did he took it entirely literally because of his potential Autism. Since common sayings utterly confound Louie, I'll explain what that means. It means that if you're not happy with the message/package that you don't blame whoever delivered it. It isn't their fault, so don't be an asshole towards them (and I know not being a shitty person is extremely difficult for Louie since it's such a huge part of his identity). And you always tip your servers/delivery drivers. The people who work those kinds of jobs make very little from the job itself because they make the bulk of their income from tips. So withholding tips over something that isn't their fault is about the scummiest, shittiest thing you can do and it's a surefire way to get labeled "one of those customers" and get terrible service going forward.
I don't shirk my responsibilities to my fellow Kiwis. Be patient please? Pretty please? lol
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