Orbiter 🏳️‍🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

[Terrorist]

I'm cracking up at their idea that a Tucker 2024 run will be the salvation of American Nationalism and the white race. Blake Neff was an AmNat, and Tucker let the network throw him under the fucking bus ("resignation" my ass, he was ousted), then took a vacation! On what criteria is Tucker a leader of the dissident right: Making snappy monologues while cucking to his corporate overlords, or keeping viewership of Fox News up among self-styled dissidents who should know better?

What will Tucker lead you into, Nick? A douchey pair of salmon khakis? Come on now. If his best possible response was to completely reject your ideas in favor of the party line, maybe he's not /yourguy/.

 

[KiwiJoe]

Did anything ever come out of Milo on the Killstream a few days ago addressing that Allsup article? What did he try to do to disprove his fed-association?

 

[Nathan Higgers]

Did anything ever come out of Milo on the Killstream a few days ago addressing that Allsup article? What did he try to do to disprove his fed-association?

Yes, we learnt that Milo has never *knowingly* sucked off a fed, sexually, that is.
But it was just incoherent British rambling and Milo going all pink wojak on Richard Spencer.

 

[Puck]

I think I'm starting to come around on catboikami

But seriously this retard NEEDS his own thread asap. I'd make it myself but I'm a lazy POS.

 

[Terrorist]

I think I'm starting to come around on catboikami
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But seriously this retard NEEDS his own thread asap. I'd make it myself but I'm a lazy POS.

CBK will be the next generation of Milo, where everybody trusts the insane cumbrained degenerate because he’s BASED, and then are somehow surprised when their freak on a leash starts lashing out and causing problems for them too. I wonder if there’s a book out there that might warn the groypers what the wages of sin are?

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I'm cracking up at their idea that a Tucker 2024 run will be the salvation of American Nationalism and the white race. Blake Neff was an AmNat, and Tucker let the network throw him under the fucking bus ("resignation" my ass, he was ousted), then took a vacation! On what criteria is Tucker a leader of the dissident right: Making snappy monologues while cucking to his corporate overlords, or keeping viewership of Fox News up among self-styled dissidents who should know better?

What will Tucker lead you into, Nick? A douchey pair of salmon khakis? Come on now. If his best possible response was to completely reject your ideas in favor of the party line, maybe he's not /yourguy/.

Tucker knows that he'd get cancelled at once if he used any dissident right rhetoric on his show, just like Neff was. Look at how well he's doing, and then compare that to Nick Fuentes streaming to a bunch of dorks on DLive. I know which person I think is advancing nationalism more effectively.

He has the self respect to not associate with "catboys" too.

 

[KiwiJoe]

Yes, we learnt that Milo has never *knowingly* sucked off a fed, sexually, that is.
But it was just incoherent British rambling and Milo going all pink wojak on Richard Spencer.

Did he ever actually say anything about Nick or Allsup? I'm surprised Milo has such beef with Spencer. Isn't Spencer supposed to be pretty irrelevant these days? Last I remembered when we yeeted Soleimani months ago he worn a Iran flag on his Twitter handle and regretted voting for Trump but that's about it.
I don't get why Milo would ever be so butthurt about Spencer when technically speaking; he's on a 'higher level' than him since he was responsible for leaking that Octoroon clip and by default Milo has better PR than Mr. Hail Victory.

 

[Terrorist]

Tucker knows that he'd get cancelled at once if he used any dissident right rhetoric on his show, just like Neff was. Look at how well he's doing, and then compare that to Nick Fuentes streaming to a bunch of dorks on DLive. I know which person I think is advancing nationalism more effectively.

He has the self respect to not associate with "catboys" too.

It's true that Tucker can't entertain dissident right thought if he expects to keep his show, and wouldn't risk cancellation to do it...so he won't break with the mainstream right, and therefore shouldn't be considered part of the dissident right and certainly not a leader of it. I don't blame Tucker for this; it's Nick's fault for reading so much into his show that he has these false expectations.

Maybe he does want to sincerely advance nationalism (idk what's in his heart), but he's also a loyal employee of Fox news whose job is to keep ratings up by whatever means available. I imagine he does his nationalistic dogwhistles, at least in part, as a strategy to keep a certain section of younger politically-incorrect white men watching who wouldn't otherwise.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Did he ever actually say anything about Nick or Allsup? I'm surprised Milo has such beef with Spencer. Isn't Spencer supposed to be pretty irrelevant these days? Last I remembered when we yeeted Soleimani months ago he worn a Iran flag on his Twitter handle and regretted voting for Trump but that's about it.
I don't get why Milo would ever be so butthurt about Spencer when technically speaking; he's on a 'higher level' than him since he was responsible for leaking that Octoroon clip and by default Milo has better PR than Mr. Hail Victory.

That clip of Spencer screaming and raving like a lunatic ended his career. I don't know why anyone would think he was relevant anymore either, not that Milo has much of a following either. It's one loser angry at another.

 

[Terrorist]

That clip of Spencer screaming and raving like a lunatic ended his career. I don't know why anyone would think he was relevant anymore either, not that Milo has much of a following either. It's one loser angry at another.

So he's gonna be fired from NPI for anti-semitism? Say it ain't so! Cancel culture strikes again.

Spencer's been a has-been since 2017. I think the punching incident marks when he started to become irrelevant to everybody except a core group of wignats who still defend him on lingering good will for...something or other, idk. That Jew rant didn't really change many people's minds about him. Nobody's surprised at this point that he's a raging neonazi who hates the Jews - people who like that like him, and people who don't, don't.

Milo became irrelevant around the same time. They both claimed they helped elect Trump and to be the leaders of the new right wing, but I think they needed Trump far, far more than he needed them.

 

[Based Papa John]

Vindicated how? He's even more bad optics? Sure he can do edgy stuff, but for someone who said anyone who wasn't good optics during the groyper war was a fed, I can't imagine this is the epitome of optics. The only vindication I imagine he could be referring to is he thinks this means Catboykami is on their side. Is edgy comedy really all America First is about? That's even less principled than the GOP establishment then.

As I mentioned in a previous post, Red Eagle Politics - pretty much a milquetoast paleo-libertarian - said in a stream that people didn't really understand Nick, whom REP thought was a comedian.

Great, just what the Right needs: another comedian.

Seriously, to suggest that Nick is somehow a comedian is to imply that Nick knows what he's doing. His response reads as someone who fell on his face, only to get up and claim "I meant to do that." Whether or not he's a Fed is beside the point: the man is just a clown.

 

[KiwiJoe]

As I mentioned in a previous post, Red Eagle Politics - pretty much a milquetoast paleo-libertarian - said in a stream that people didn't really understand Nick, whom REP thought was a comedian.

Great, just what the Right needs: another comedian.

Seriously, to suggest that Nick is somehow a comedian is to imply that Nick knows what he's doing. His response reads as someone who fell on his face, only to get up and claim "I meant to do that." Whether or not he's a Fed is beside the point: the man is just a clown.

I don't think Nick is a fed. Mostly because he never did anything that was useful in the long run. The Groyper War against TPUSA was more or less just another trolling campaign.

Granted though, Spencer's downfall came during his peak of popularity in a duration, which was from 2016 to 2017. That involved Hailgate and UtR 2017. I don't know what you can currently consider to be Nick's peak of popularity. Perhaps his peak of popularity started somewhere in 2019, with the Groyper War and is still ongoing. If so I guess we'll have to wait and see in about a year and a half to see if Nick does have his Spencer moments. It does coincide with the elections after all.

Also, Nick may have had some intentions for greater things at the beginning of his turn from a typical small-government Libertarian to a 'Authoritarian Trad-Catholic NatSoc' or whatever the fuck meme ideology he has but I think at some point he acknowledged the reality of his situation. He knows damn well he can't progress that far even with mixin' Malkin unless he's going to get demolished by the media and branded a nobody like Spencer in a few years. He's very aware that there are people on the Dissident Right like Allsup who aren't afraid to call out on his BS ever since his image of a pious and 'pure' TradCath was shattered with that Catboykami stream. No matter how many times he calls people wignats.


To me I consider Nick to be another e-celeb, despite him shitting on the idea of YouTubers and e-celebs and claiming he's better than that. At the end of the day its just business for him. He knows he has a fanbase and he'll just make money saying edgy political stuff via donos. Simple as'. Who wouldn't want to make a decent amount of money playing video games and saying edgy political stuff? It's a well established audience too.

 

[KiwiJoe]

Nick’s peak was when he and Allsup had the YouTube show together. Nick was invited to a lot of “secret handshake” type of conferences at the time because a lot of the paleocons and dissident right thought Nick had a lot of promise and his obsession about optics wasn’t as laughable as it is today as this was post-Charlottesville. So I’d say he peaked in late 2017.

Edit: Research found that Allsup and Fuentes split around January 15, 2018.

Was that really his peak though? During that time I never even heard of Nick or even seen people who were fans of him back then. I was always well aware of Spencer though and the dominant 'style' of the Alt-Right/Dissident Right at the time was Spencer's flavor of it. AKA; "We must save EVROPA and create a TRANS-ATLANTIC PAN-EUROPEAN ETHNOSTATE!"-kind and not the current TradCath LARPers we have today who advocate for a Catholic-themed IRGC or whatever.

When I meant by 'peak' I mean the best reputation they had in the community at the moment. Spencer during 2016-2017, he was never really liked that much (I never recalled him having that big of a fanbase) but he did held some influence and people did talk about him a lot. Judging by old comments on older videos, he also had a fair amount of people who liked him.

I think 2019 to present is where Nick is in his peak, in my opinion. You notice how he always networks with all sorts of people online. He shows up on The Dick Show and Killstream a lot, talks to Metokur sometimes (last I remember, Nick promoted Jim's Twitter account for coronavirus updates), was featured in a Sam Hyde skit, and his fanbase is currently the biggest than ever before, even if they're somewhat disorganized. Nick is also the reason why we have so many spergs on Twitter with anime avis and Vatican emojis in their names. He pretty much created that TradCath brand and influenced the current Alt-Right/Dissident Right of now. That's why there was so much anti-cooming sentiment on the internet these days, and all the big push of Catholicism by these 'right wing zoomers'.

He still has a connection to Malkin even if it isn't all that its hyped to be. Arguably, that's still kinda better than what Spencer ever had back then. Nick even got his personal little artist (Emerson) and his own clique of people who work under him (Baked Alaska, Beardson, Saevant, Jaden McNeil, that former Identity Evropa guy, etc). Though these days his reputation is being contested, especially after that catboy stream, I still think Nick is far from his 'fall from grace' yet and there's still more that could happen in the future.

 

[nohull]

I wonder if there’s a book out there that might warn the groypers what the wages of sin are?

I know this one, youtube's terms of service

 

[Chamulum]

Does the right even have a leader anymore? It's either disingenuous retards or faggots that LARP as tradcaths because they're too pussy to come out or some shit.

 

[KiwiJoe]

Does the right even have a leader anymore? It's either disingenuous retards or faggots that LARP as tradcaths because they're too pussy to come out or some shit.

Depends what you mean by 'the right'. These days its been fractured so much that Trump is really the only unifying figure we have in the right simply because of the fact that he's the President. Even then as time goes on he's becoming less of that and more divided.

Wignats have James Allsup and Keith Woods, I guess? Obviously TradCaths have Nick. Mainstream Conservatives have figures like Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, whatever is left of the so-called Intellectual Darkweb leading the way. Boomercons (and MAGApedes for younger) have their vague idea of Trump and QAnon to lead the way. Are Libertarians still a thing, I guess those are boogboys and gunnuts who care about 2A the most and they have 'leaders' in the sense that they just want to make sure the 2A is protected the most. There's also your weird Lady MAGA types who are nominally 'Conservative' to act as a meatshield for Leftists and nothing more and they also follow Mainstream Conservative figures who just happen to be minorities in some way. There's so many factions.

What matters is what faction of the American right actually matters in real politics.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

I'm cracking up at their idea that a Tucker 2024 run will be the salvation of American Nationalism and the white race. Blake Neff was an AmNat, and Tucker let the network throw him under the fucking bus ("resignation" my ass, he was ousted), then took a vacation! On what criteria is Tucker a leader of the dissident right: Making snappy monologues while cucking to his corporate overlords, or keeping viewership of Fox News up among self-styled dissidents who should know better?

What will Tucker lead you into, Nick? A douchey pair of salmon khakis? Come on now. If his best possible response was to completely reject your ideas in favor of the party line, maybe he's not /yourguy/.

Well Tucker is what Nick wishes he was. Someone who actually can play the optics game. His handling of Blake Neff's firing shows it. He distanced himself from Neff's history of edgelord posting so he doesn't get dragged down with it, but went pretty light on Neff himself and painted it as a mild youthful indiscretion Neff paid a steep price for. You may not like it, but that's how anyone who wants to be an actual political player has to handle things. If he'd sperged out like Nick would have done, it would have severely harmed his career, and possibly cost him his show on Fox News, which is a vital outlet to reaching people. The dissident right has a self-destructive obsession with "keeping it real" that's as bad as any gangsta nigger.

 

[Terrorist]

Well Tucker is what Nick wishes he was. Someone who actually can play the optics game. His handling of Blake Neff's firing shows it. He distanced himself from Neff's history of edgelord posting so he doesn't get dragged down with it, but went pretty light on Neff himself and painted it as a mild youthful indiscretion Neff paid a steep price for. You may not like it, but that's how anyone who wants to be an actual political player has to handle things. If he'd sperged out like Nick would have done, it would have severely harmed his career, and possibly cost him his show on Fox News, which is a vital outlet to reaching people. The dissident right has a self-destructive obsession with "keeping it real" that's as bad as any gangsta nigger.

I think it actually shows the limit of the optics approach. Conservative institutions are hostile towards dissident right ideas, no matter how they are presented, so all guys like Tucker can do is dogwhistle to no effect. "Reaching people" is well and good, but what has Tucker changed? Optics are useless because the goal of optics (subversion and radical change) will never be allowed to happen by conservative gatekeepers. Tucker might be able to sneak some spicy things onto Fox, but TPTB will never let these hot takes be acted upon, so they remain inert.

This is assuming Tucker really is /ourguy/ and secretly has views similar to Neff's and Nick's, instead of the lukewarm civnat he presents as, or a ratings hog who'll say anything to keep you watching.

Of course, a "subversive" who shouts his plan of infiltration off every mountaintop like Nick does wouldn't get much done regardless. "Muahaha GOP I am infiltrating you, wait no how did you figure out to kick me out of CPAC... "

 

[NSJAP]

Hmmm

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Did anyone archive his six hour commentary stream? I;m looking for it on youtube, which usually all his shows are archived on, but it's not there. The only bit of it I found was the commentary on the interview between milo and kami. The only other place one may find it is on his "website," but I'm not paying 5 dollars a month for that shit