China Floodwatch 2020-21 - Wuhan, Hubei/Henan Province is sinking and I dunno how to swim.

[Jann_Hörn]

I'm more worried about the flooding than a military engagement, especially one predicated on...(relatively) slight diplomatic tensions? Maybe if Chinese people were being lynched in the streets, but high level corruption and espionage issues don't seem like a good hill to die on. There are also so many Chinese students in America right now, it would be tough in my opinion to just let them be used as leverage.

It is as the saying goes, “don’t point a gun unless you are willing to use it.” China does seems to understand this concept and is feeling the wrath of their inability to succeed internationally now. As their international relations decline further and further with everyone except their puppets and as they have failed to achieve sustainability within their own borders, their government is becoming more and more desperate.

The facade is coming down and Winnie realizes it. You are 100 percent right that this is primarily a negotiation tactic for a democrat win in November. Appeasement is always the goal, never war. But, this desperation and the disasters are leaving the legitimacy of the CCP on shaky ground. They need a victory soon, whether military or otherwise.

Also there are very little Chinese students in the USA right now, they were mandated to return in late March.

 

[Archeopthryx]

Let's say that the dam did break. Will the Chinese people learn that they can't trust their government? They already know that they can't trust their government. The question is what they would do. Would they rise up and rally across the Chinese empire? People should just stop telling people what they know and start asking them "So what are you gonna do about it pussy?"

They should open up their window and shout out "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!"

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Also there are very little Chinese students in the USA right now, they were mandated to return in late March.

I mean, I know some Chinese students in the US right now. But they're grad students, so I'm not sure about the specifics of that mandate. I'm not really sure about what you're saying, to be honest. I found this article from the South China Morning Post that says there were still 1 million students abroad, and with the ICE policy changes (that were reverted, admittedly) I can't imagine a lot of wealthy students saying "Yeah seems safe to leave behind university life right now." Especially when they can just rent out an apartment and stay in the US.

 

[2021Murder]

Spoiler: me sperging about nonsense that won't happen

The mass exodus from the West Coast would be massive if large scale radiation makes it to those areas. It'd mostly be places like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, and San Diego. LA might be okay, just close all the beaches and ports down. All the others have waterways to their city from the Ocean. It would not only put stress on the other parts of the country, but poz the political systems there since these people would be forced to move and they're not changing their politics. It might take a few years to reach us, since it took 2 years for the Fukushima radiation to reach the west coast.

E1: Idk how Guam, Hawaii, or any other pacific island territory would be affected. That would be a clusterfuck if we'd have to evacuate those areas, since they're not on the mainland and it'd take weeks and tons of boats to do so. The issue wouldn't be the population, but getting everyone and their belongings off there in a reasonable fashion and in enough time.

E2: Alaska would also be affected. Not to mention BC in Canada. At least Alaska has a ton of empty areas to move to, but it'd take years, probably decades, to build back up. In places like Barrow, it'd be "Get your shit, we're throwing you on a plane" if it was in danger.

E3: Alaska could turn into STALKER: Murica Edition if shit got really out of hand. Chekki Brekki.

this is just from the college books i read years ago, but i guarantee you thats not how this whole radiation thing works, irradiated water isn't going to go a million miles to the California coast and be super deadly.

It is as the saying goes, “don’t point a gun unless you are willing to use it.” China does seems to understand this concept and is feeling the wrath of their inability to succeed internationally now. As their international relations decline further and further with everyone except their puppets and as they have failed to achieve sustainability within their own borders, their government is becoming more and more desperate.

The facade is coming down and Winnie realizes it. You are 100 percent right that this is primarily a negotiation tactic for a democrat win in November. Appeasement is always the goal, never war. But, this desperation and the disasters are leaving the legitimacy of the CCP on shaky ground. They need a victory soon, whether military or otherwise.

There's another saying thats more apt here. "if you're going to jump (off the building) do a flip" Whenever i'm up shit creek without a paddle in civ-style videogames i usually try to cause as much chaos as possible before it all ends.

Its a strategy called the "Double Maverick" and if i was a top leader in a country that is known for executing billionaires and top leaders, its exactly what i would do because, fuck it i'm literally going to die anyway.

Plus what the fuck is trump going to do anyway, he can't go to war 100 days before an election. even if its for a good reason the media and jews would slaughter him for it. might as well go for broke. try and execute as many japs, koreans, and Taiwanese as possible before it all goes down. you know what, just declare war on all of them. rationailize it as needing a lot more land and resources for future events.

 

[Jann_Hörn]

I mean, I know some Chinese students in the US right now. But they're grad students, so I'm not sure about the specifics of that mandate. I'm not really sure about what you're saying, to be honest. I found this article from the South China Morning Post that says there were still 1 million students abroad, and with the ICE policy changes (that were reverted, admittedly) I can't imagine a lot of wealthy students saying "Yeah seems safe to leave behind university life right now." Especially when they can just rent out an apartment and stay in the US.

From what I know there are just grad students remaining here as well. Since they fell under a different category. If there is one thing I’m upset with trump for is not sending them all back and kicking them out for good when he had the chance.

1 Million ChiComs abroad, god this world is fucked. We have lost the plot as humanity.

Reward lust and destroy benediction in the name of fairness.

 

[Lonely Grave]

If there's one thing this whole flooding crisis has me hopeful for, it's that any devastation levied on the Yangtze cities and infrastructure will at least create an opening for a south China secession movement - whether the pacified Cantonese will rise up to tell Beijing to fuck off and cause the regional power shift required to split China asunder is another thing entirely.

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Some links:

Website monitoring official statistics, mentions this thread.

Blog post on how the government and Party looks that the political risks the floods could bring.

Reuters has an article on how the real threat isn't the 3GD, but the host of Maoist-era smaller dams that have neglected since the pandemic.

This like a fair and balanced Twitter account, between doomerism and "just relax bro". Here's a linked thread on how the 3GD isn't that worrying. Kind of strengthens my feeling that the dams will still stand.

But again, it's not nothing. The Wall Street Journal has an article on the flooding. It's behind of paywall, but here are some quotes: 'Xu Changping, who runs two car dealerships in a Hubei city that hit by severe flooding, closed his stores, piling up sandbags to keep the water out. “Just after I regained hope, they were extinguished right afterward.”, and "in Jiangxi, fish farmer Li Qian’s family has been trapped upstairs in their two-story house, ferrying in groceries on boats. “We worried a lot, seeing the water rising to knee-level in just half an hour,” he said by phone. “We’ve learned to save ourselves”

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Some more footage of flooding pretty far away from the dam in Xiangxi, Hunan Province. It’s bad guys.

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I'm getting strong flashbacks to when I would watch videos on Indians riding bikes and driving cars during and after monsoons.

 

[Homo Demens]

I'm getting strong flashbacks to when I would watch videos on Indians riding bikes and driving cars during and after monsoons.

This but it's the 3GD.

 

[Male Idiot]

Made in China is a bad idea for important infrastructure....

 

[Archeopthryx]

Made in China is a bad idea for important infrastructure....

Well yeah.

 

[Maurice Caine]

Well yeah.
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At least it's not Made in Brazil.
That label used to mean something, though.

 

[Otterly]

It’s not just irradiated water per se that’s the issue it’s particles of highly radioactive material. They can be washed a long way. The beach at dounray in Caithness in Scotland for example has had a lot of radioactive particles found on it. If ten reactors got washed away or severely damaged you’d have a significant amount of material washed downstream. Radioactive materials from the plume at Chernobyl went over Britain - I remember it happening and we couldn’t eat welsh lamb for ages because of the fallout over the hills.

 

[Drain Todger]

Well yeah.
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For their own sake, they’d better hope that dam isn’t made of papier-mâché like everything else in that godforsaken country.

Spoiler: Do not learn Mandarin!

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The facade is coming down and Winnie realizes it. You are 100 percent right that this is primarily a negotiation tactic for a democrat win in November. Appeasement is always the goal, never war. But, this desperation and the disasters are leaving the legitimacy of the CCP on shaky ground. They need a victory soon, whether military or otherwise.

I guess a victory will be a kind of bread and circus for the CCP?

 

[Livecorpse]

So, I've been thinking about possible best and worse case economic and political scenarios for if this dam fails, and I'd be interested in hearing what a bunch of spergs think.

Fair warning though, I'm pretty drunk and very sleepy.

No matter what, if the dam fails, everything downstream is fucked. Millions will die from the wave, millions more will die from lack of infrastructure. China's standing as a world power will collapse, and the economic damage will take years to recover from.

Spoiler: Best case

The CCP holds on to power by a hair, and immediately tries and fails to do damage control, before being forced to admit that the dam failing has completely fucked them. A global economic downturn occurs as the markets reel from the damage and loss of life, but ultimately the rest of the world manages to hold together. India and other Southeast Asia countries build sweatshops and supplant China as manufacturing hubs. China ends up being little more than a minor regional power for a few decades.

Spoiler: Worst case

A power struggle in China erupts into a massive Taiping Rebellion scale civil conflict. One or both sides deploy WMDs, forcing other local powers such as Russia, Japan, or India to step in to try to stem the carnage. The war continues to escalate, drawing in more and more global powers until virtually everyone is at war with each other.

 

[Male Idiot]

For their own sake, they’d better hope that dam isn’t made of papier-mâché like everything else in that godforsaken country.

Spoiler: Do not learn Mandarin!

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The lack of maintenance is a communist thing, but even worse.

Usually in post Soviet slavlands, the -important- stuff is maintained.

A car for example may have a busted paintjob and seats, but the tyres and oil are okey.
A house may have a busted paintjob and an overgrown garden, but the lights work and the walls are holding up.

Here this is a lack of money. Rich people have their houses fixes up, but the majority needs to spend cash on functional and not cosmetic maintenance. The elevator's wallpaper 2ill be torn and ragged, but the light and buttons working.

The rich but lives in ill maintained Chink and other coloreds thing seem to have other roots as well, not just commie poverty.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

The lack of maintenance is a communist thing, but even worse.

Usually in post Soviet slavlands, the -important- stuff is maintained.

A car for example may have a busted paintjob and seats, but the tyres and oil are okey.
A house may have a busted paintjob and an overgrown garden, but the lights work and the walls are holding up.

Here this is a lack of money. Rich people have their houses fixes up, but the majority needs to spend cash on functional and not cosmetic maintenance. The elevator's wallpaper 2ill be torn and ragged, but the light and buttons working.

The rich but lives in ill maintained Chink and other coloreds thing seem to have other roots as well, not just commie poverty.

I'm amazed they haven't had one of their knockoff RBMKs go boom. They just do not give a fuck about anything. The motorcycle dude talking about his mother in law refusing to get an oil change....they really are oriental Jews

 

[Male Idiot]

I'm amazed they haven't had one of their knockoff RBMKs go boom. They just do not give a fuck about anything. The motorcycle dude talking about his mother in law refusing to get an oil change....they really are oriental Jews

Yids chew foreskin, chongs chew pets.

I knew a jew who did not change winter and summer tyres until he had a small accident, bit than he realised that a big surgery is more costly in lost work hours than 4 tyres.

Rbmk? What is that?

Also are there any nuclear power plants in the possible flood's way? Chinknobile.

 

[Weppers]

Rbmk? What is that?

Also are there any nuclear power plants in the possible flood's way? Chinknobile.

RBMK is the reactor design built at Chernobyl.