U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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Please explain how, and qualify your opinion.

I've had the same training as these guys, and had to restrain people strung out on drugs. Thankfully no body died, but I also didn't have to deal with anybody infected with the 'rona. I can tell you from my experience that these guys did nothing wrong.
Thao's demeanor with the crowd just came off as unprofessional but that's an optics thing I guess, he still did his job of actually keeping the crowd back. I spoke to a deputy sheriff with 30 years on about Chauvin and he said he'd never place his knee on someone's neck and that he was always trained to place it on the back, granted this was before any sort of transcripts of the bodycam came out so we didn't have a clear picture of why they needed to restrain Floyd the way they did. And apparently it was an approved tactic for MPD at least.
 
Just glad I wasn't the only guy to say this on the farms when this all started.
I wasn't saying that when it started. Took me a while to form that opinion. I wanted to wait for more information and to hear from more informed people. Which is the attitude everyone should have taken, but for obvious reasons that didn't happen.

And I'm open to the negligent manslaughter thing because I genuinely don't know what Chauvin's duty was at that time. Was he supposed to try to rouse him? Do CPR? Give him a phoenix down or cast nigerum revocetur*? "Hold him in place and wait for the EMTs" seems reasonable, but maybe someone will dig up a policy or case law that says he was supposed to do something else.

* From a medieval Latin grimoire, "let the black be called back."
 
Thao's demeanor with the crowd just came off as unprofessional but that's an optics thing I guess, he still did his job of actually keeping the crowd back. I spoke to a deputy sheriff with 30 years on about Chauvin and he said he'd never place his knee on someone's neck and that he was always trained to place it on the back, granted this was before any sort of transcripts of the bodycam came out so we didn't have a clear picture of why they needed to restrain Floyd the way they did. And apparently it was an approved tactic for MPD at least.

Oh, so you're talking out of your ass with subjective opinions. Hint: Following this, all cops are gonna say "they'd have done it differently" so they're not getting fucked with by their agency.

I have a certificate in Monadnock Defensive Tactics. At the time I was trained, and likely still, this is the second most popular training program for Law Enforcement in the United States. That training includes knees on or near the neck when controlling a suspect.

I also hold a certificate in what was formerly known as Pressure Point Control Tactics. It has since been renamed, but is still the most popular training program for Law Enforcement in the United States. That training includes knees on or near the neck when controlling a suspect.

I also have a certificate from a local training school in "Arrest Control Procedures". This program was derived from the above, and also teaches knees on or near the neck when controlling a suspect.

Further, I coach and have previously played US Football. Players are taught not turn their heads when making contact as where the neck goes, the body follows.

Wherever the neck goes, the rest of the body follows. Look at the still images from the arrest again. Notice the position of Officer Chauvin's body in relation to Floyd's. Notice how his body is beside Floyd's neck and not above it? Also, note the angle of Chauvin's femur. For it to be at the angle it is at from the rest of Chauvin's body, it is as clear today as it was at the time of incident that Chauvin wasn't applying downward pressure, or any pressure at all, onto Floyd's neck.

"Hold him in place and wait for the EMTs" seems reasonable, but maybe someone will dig up a policy or case law that says he was supposed to do something else.

No, Dude was overdosing and resisting arrest. If the police did anything other than "hold in place" medics wouldn't have gone to the call as it would have been "unsafe" for them.
 
I wasn't saying that when it started. Took me a while to form that opinion. I wanted to wait for more information and to hear from more informed people. Which is the attitude everyone should have taken, but for obvious reasons that didn't happen.

And I'm open to the negligent manslaughter thing because I genuinely don't know what Chauvin's duty was at that time. Was he supposed to try to rouse him? Do CPR? Give him a phoenix down or cast nigerum revocetur*? "Hold him in place and wait for the EMTs" seems reasonable, but maybe someone will dig up a policy or case law that says he was supposed to do something else.

* From a medieval Latin grimoire, "let the black be called back."

Chauvin appeared to arrive on the body cam footage as backup to restrain Floyd after being erratic and resisting arrest with Lane and Kueng.
 
What do you guys think what will happen in the end? Do all these virtue signalers think they’ve done anything? Call me dumb, but the more I think of this incident of George Floyd, I seem to think that people have become useless drones as they only gave a shit about Floyd is because the media told them to care.
 
About a year ago, someone was threatening to sue a local school district over their disciplinary policies and attempting to use the Freedom of Information Act to determine the racial demographics of the district versus that of those students being disciplined. Whomever was behind this seemed to believe that a district with 25% "students of color" (for example) should only have 25% of its disciplinary actions taken against those same students of color and that a percentage exceeding the percentage makeup is somehow racist. I'm not sure if they got the data they requested, but the threatened suit didn't seem to happen.

Of course it's racist. Remember how niggers commit 80% of violent crimes and are 80% of the prison population and THAT is waysis?
 
Imagine what they could have done with the millions raised for bail funds and Black Lives Matter if they actually cared about investing it in the community. No, they just want to take money away from cops and weaken law enforcement.
The same people who depend on government money turn around and squander it on frivolous items and mutual donations to e-begging sites. You're right that they could pool that money and use ti to make a meaningfuil difference, but these are slacktivists we're talking about. Action is too tiresome.

magine if instead of these fucking riots and putting money into bail funds to further enrich laywers we instead had put all that money we've spent to make sure the working and middle class children could have the best feasible technology possible so that their online schooling come September was as decent as possible?
It's funny because many liberals want more money for education and a solution to the "digital divide." For now, it instead looks like they're more invested in these protests that solve zero social issues. Meanwhile, schools are trying to figure out when and how they will reopen come September, and the technology woes they faced this spring in trying to provide online education on short notice are still unresolved -- something that doesn't bode well should schools be closed again for an extended period of time due to COVID-19 or anything else.

There they are bitching that "antifa public enemy number 1", Tusitala Toese ALSO gets let out immediately by the justice system they bitch about endlessly as oppressive.
Aren't these also the same people that want $0 bail because requiring a cash payment to get out of jail is classist, racist, and about a dozen other-ists? Funny how they don't like the same ideas they advocate for when their opponents/enemies take advantage of them. :story:

All of those 'sovereign citizen' asswipes that you see in videos giving cops a hard time over a fucking parking ticket, those are the ones being pandered to now.
From what I've seen of Libertarians shilling their candidate, the talking points they focus on seem to be identical to the Democratic platform, especially regarding open borders. Why vote Libertarian if party members are touting policies already being supported by the Dems?

This thread is practically impossible to keep up with, but just as a reminder (odds are it's already been posted several times already), George Floyd's Memorial Gofundme is now standing at $14.65M with donations as high as $23.5K coming in as recently as ten days ago. The three figure donations are too numerous to count, so here's some highlights here:
What is she going to do with $14 million dollars? For fucks sake, these anti capitalists just made another millionaire.
I imagine it will be some combination of:
  • "Financial advisors" offering to help for a steep price (and mismanaging the money),
  • Frivolous purchases, and
  • All kinds of people crawling out of the woodwork to request or demand a share of the money with the implication that saying no is not going to be an option.
  • Any other similar items not mentioned.
Sadly, very little of this money will probably benefit the family/kids in any meaningful way because they probably won't take the time to seek out a reputable financial planner that doesn't see them as mere dollar signs.

That's how she ends the article. lol. The journalists that site features are some of the absolute worst, yellow and incompetent as can be.
MLive has been garbage tier for some time. As the quality of their regional sports coverage declined and the <state>Live platform as a whole discontinued its own forums, there was nothing left to distinguish it from any other online news source. Worse, viewing MLive with an ad-blocker can yield unpredictable results. Sometimes, an article displays without any issues. Other times, you have to click something saying 'Continue without unblocking'. Still other times, you can't read the article at all, but a refresh produces the article in its entirety without the no-ad nag.

Writers such as this drive home the point that low-tier journalists flock to equally low-tier media sites where one journalist's mere incompetence is sadly above average when compared to the rest of them.

It takes serious effort to segregate yourself that well. Most Americans will never set foot in a place that white.
Liberals are doing everything they can to diversify Maine.
Pretty boring. It has the lowest violent crime rate in the country (and the second lowest imprisonment rate).
About 15 years ago, someone I know in Maine mentioned that their area had seen a brief upswing in Asian/African refugees escaping whatever turmoil was going on in their native countries at the time. Many of them found their way to the regional community colleges in an attempt to get themselves better educated.

Maine really is rather boring relatively speaking, and the low crime rate is so true that locals will give visitors from out of state/the big city good-natured ribbing about locking their cars, especially during the winter.

Prima Facie there is no real reason for the feds to focus on Detroit, The mayor and police chief have been keeping things under control, are not cucked (Police in the right, protesters shouldn't be attacking police cars, etc), and the riots there have been minor and easily dealt with by the DPD. Federal Resources should be going to Portland and Seattle.
Agreed. Between Chief Craig's quick and proactive responses and local activists making it clear agitators are neither wanted nor welcome, Detroit has largely stayed calm. Even with the latest big shooting, Chief Craig released the body cam coverage rather quickly to dispel the inaccuracies being spread on social media. For now, the biggest ongoing protest in Detroit has been BAMN blockading school buses because they fear summer school will bring a large upswing in COVID-19 to both students and staff alike.

Send the feds to places such as Portland and Seattle where the local elected officials either do nothing to stop the violence or encourage it with their behavior and/or inaction.

These protesters have done nothing but ruin Portland's city structure, its people, its businesses, and its culture, and is starting to look more and more like Detroit than it does Portland, and the protesters have killed so many people due to burning or even shooting people.
At this point, the burnt areas of Portland, Minneapolis, and other cities make Detroit look better (for now anyways). If you want to compare Portland's current state to Detroit's after its 1967 riot, though, you'd be more spot on.

Seizing a moment away from the focus about police brutality, to angle for a raise. Stunning and brave.
The $15/hour demand is the byproduct of SEIU's involvement. They're the group behind that along with unionizing fast food workers so they can boost their depleted union membership and coffers. It's ingenious icing on the cake when they, or other groups, imply $15/hour minimum wage would somehow cure everything wrong in the US right now.

The problem is that if you want to advocate homeschooling, you've got to find a better name for it, one that the media hasn't intentionally tarred with the lunacy of the fundie traditionalists of the Reagan and Bush eras.
Even if there was a new and improved term for homeschooling, it wouldn't change the fact people would still use it for bad reasons as they do now. That aspect will never go away.

@Syaoran Li, @FatalTater, and @Meat Target have all replied about the subject, but here are some other thoughts combined with theirs:
The biggest issue is a lack of uniform standards. Regulations vary greatly from state to state. In my state, parents don't have to notify the state unless they want special education resources. Further, they don't have to notify the local school district although it's encouraged to avoid truancy issues. Apart from minimal content requirements, parents have relatively complete autonomy. Even the requirement that anyone homeschooling children possess a Bachelor's degree is easily sidestepped because of how easy it is to claim having said degree isn't possible for religious reasons. Efforts to further regulate homeschooling often get fought by homeschool lobbyists.

Another issue is the aforementioned people that use it to either hide something or indoctrinate their kids. In addition to fundamentalists who may want to slant teaching to include their distorted religious world view, there are also those who use homeschooling to keep anyone from learning the children are being abused and neglected. Yes, these are likely a small minority, but the media has a field day reporting these incidents because it allows them to portray homeschooling and their advocates as abnormal.

One of the last main concerns I've seen comes from a thread active when I was a lurker: Unschooling. The idea that parents are claiming to homeschool their children when they instead have their kid unsupervised in front of an electronic device doing whatever they want, even if it's not educational. I'm willing to bet many people have this in mind when they first hear "homeschool" even though it's once again a small minority whose behavior is exaggerated by those who dislike any disruption to the status quo.

Public school unions seeing it as a threat are indeed a thing. They've never been totally thrilled with private schools even if they tolerate them to some degree. Charter schools are looked at even more unfavorably because they get state tax funding that would presumably go to the public schools those students might otherwise attend. As a result, teachers unions, especially the more militant ones affiliated with the American Federation of Teachers tend to have a vested interest in seeing their competition fail in some form or another.

The socialization issue can go either way. Many homeschooled students go on to attend college, do well, and graduate to be productive members of society. However, that doesn't provide good ammo for criticizing homeschooling. Instead they focus on those students who behave quirky for whatever reason or might not move on to college. Those become Exhibit A on why homeschooling is bad. That said, there exists organized homeschooling groups that provide structured learning and opportunities for interaction whether student-teacher or student-student. Also, some areas with enough homeschool students have been known to have organized physical education sessions, intramural sports, or full-fledged athletic programs to make sure students have a chance to be active and learn teamwork skills.
 
I know he was on drugs and was probably stronger than the cop, so restraing on the ground was probably the best option. I reviewed the videos now. And there was 3 cops restraing the Floyd ,apparently, one on the legs, on the torso, and one on the neck, so I was wrong about thinking it only was knee cop and the knee cop was somewhat smiling at the cameras.
But I still have my criticism that the knee on the neck wasn't necessary after they put the handcuffs and there's a guy on torso, so the knee guy could go to the shoulders and if started to flaying the head using his hand on the neck.

You do understand they didn't want him smashing his head into the concrete, right? Or rolling into traffic. Those are why the knee was placed.

Edit: Hand on the neck? Really? That would have looked even worse. You really are dumb.
 
Jesus, this is boring. These are like, the only people still bothering, and it shows. Even that crowd, while bigger; isn't impressive. Any group can look worrisome when there's thousands, but you guys know these people. Literally all it takes is a flashbang and half that crowd will either immediately disperse, or stay way in the background. Even in a place with as many radical dipshits as Portland. As cheeto dust meme man who people desperately try to find things to clown on for now would say; LOW ENERGY.
 
9mm, 12ga, 5.56/.223, and .22LR was the first shit to go. local shop is usually low or sold out of 5.56/.223 but has tons of 7.62x39.

So basically this is the time to go full /k/ommando and buy yourself an SKS?


For all their drama about getting "snatched" by "anonymous agents," the rioters' stories aren't really that interesting. They're committing Federal crimes in plain view of Federal officers. Uniformed LEOs are efficiently arresting them and putting them in government-operated vehicles. They aren't getting all the hand-holding and ball-stroking they're used to getting from the local police, and that surprises them. They think every arrest should start like a traffic stop. "Excuse me, sir, my name is Officer Podwoddle with the Portland Police Trike Squad, can I talk to you for a moment? Any crimes you would like to confess? Do I have your consent to conduct a search? Would you like to stand here and argue with me for 10 or 20 minutes? It's hot out, let me get you a juice box." This stuff serves its purpose in everyday interactions, but it's probably not necessary when you're arresting someone you just watched commit a felony. The rioters don't get that. They still think they can use their words and walk away from this with a ticket, maybe a verbal warning. They started playing a new game and don't even know the rules.

They've been lulled into a sense of complacency and think they're still playing the same game. They really do not understand what they're doing or what they've done. They think they're still going up against Podwoddle who, himself wants to beat these morons with his night stick every time he has to deal with them.

Now they're up against Chad Wolf's boys and no, no he doesn't have his men read you your rights, no he does not consider you attacking a building, or officers with a hammer or trying to set his men on fire something that requires a ticket.

The mayor of Portland has made this situation so much worse by not stamping down hard on what was considered unacceptable behaviour by the vast majority. Had Antifa continued to rant and scream and wave their stupid flags then these kids wouldnt be in a van somewhere being measured for an orange jumpsuit and learn what real supremacist tendancies will actually look like when they arrive at their new home in Fucknuck County, Idaho who only agreed to a Fed prison for the tax payer kickbacks.

I know people laugh at Hi-Point [sometimes for good reason] but I shot one of their carbines in 9mm recently and I gotta say that cheap ugly thing performs decent for a basic, cheap home defense weapon. You can modify it very easily, get longer mags, comes in three different configurations [9mm, .40S&W and .45ACP] and they're cheap as fuck. Might be a decent idea for someone who's short on cash and wants something cheap to practice with before they drop 600+ on a good AR. 9mm and 40S&W don't have much recoil at all fired from a rifle, can't speak for .45ACP but I assume it's got a little kick. If you're curious as to whether Hi-Point earned their shit reputation, look up some torture tests on their weapons, it was surprising as hell to me. Overall they're nothing special, aesthetically displeasing and you might not want to rely on it long as your main defensive tool but for a practice plinker bump in the night gun, you could do worse. You could have one of those little Jimenez saturday night specials.

I bought both the handgun and the carbine. The handgun is clunky and ugly as sin. It's a bitch to take apart and clean. I hate the thing. It be better get a sccy. But hi point is if you need a gun and cant do any better go for it.

The carbines are awesome. Still a prick to take down and clean but
Lovely to shoot.

I think folks forget that Hi-points are built to a budget and sold accordingly, you're not going to get an easy to use gun brand new for that price.

Plus the lifetime warrinty's pretty sweet too.

I had a thought. I keep hearing rumors how much influence china has over the left and UN. If wokelets were able to claim turf like america did from the Brits this would allow for a beach head for an invasion.

What do you think?

You saw the Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club, right? They couldn't even hold 6 city blocs convincingly. They'd have to hold a town or port area for several hours and not be murdered either by Feds, the military or by militia groups coming from the back woods for a laugh.


Here's a slightly mind blowing article about the poor polling of 'Defund the police'.

Apparently it doesn't matter. Politicians should just do it and it will be accepted in a few decades, rather like non consensual sexual contact isn't too bad once you get used to it and learn that objecting has serious consequences.

https://www.motherjones.com/anti-ra...e-police-doesnt-poll-well-that-doesnt-matter/
https://archive.vn/wip/DcGIW

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https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/defund-police-reform-poll_n_5ee28787c5b6f4c439ac4a0b
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So you've got a poll in the Huffington Post where Americans after several weeks of being browbeaten with articles in places like the Huffington Post about how they must support BLM and all its policy preferences saying that they roundly oppose defunding the police. Even Joe Biden knows it's electoral suicide to endorse it. There's not a single demographic group where the people in favor outnumber those against.

The UK's polling was similarly dire, and any general support for BLM is seen as semi-poisonous in the polling. Labour's leader and Deputy both knelt and found their poll gap widening back to a healthy 10 points with the Tories. It was followed by the loudest, crunchiest gear change in history of "I don't support defunding the police."

Just settling down to beddybyes and making myself a nice hot cup of cocoa with half a bottle of vodka in it.

All tucked up, curly and warm with my new duvet. Thinking to myself: boy, sure hope those folx over at the farms don't think I'm a screaming racist. I've been sailing pretty close to the wind lately with all my anti-nigger propaganda. They seem to take it all quite well. I like them. I'd hate to outstay my welcome and become a bore though...

Yes, black people don't just hate whites. They fucking seethingly hate Asians especially Indians, in the UK at least. Pakistanis are more like niggers anyway. Indians tend to be more well adjusted and have respect for fellow Huwhites. And that's why niggers hate them.

Interesting reason for that. Quite a few Indians realised very early on in the 70s that sticking to just the cities was pointless and had them stuck with all their other fellows, so began moving out of the cities ASAP to found small businesses out the jacksie. Taking on restraunts, pubs, corner shops etc. They moved to towns where they'd be the only non-white family for 10 miles around or more. Right into the heart of peaceful, sleepy locals who probably last saw someone not their skin colour on the TV. They endured the racism, the mistake of being called "paki" and on and on. End result, fourty years on?

British-Indians make up the second richest group in the UK, and likely one of the richest proportionally by head.

I know of at least two families in Pillockshire who're thought of very highly due to their business accumen and ability, as well as their charity.

The black and Pakistani communities however, found a niche early on. Pakistanis would dominate the fabrics trade, blacks public transport and other service economy jobs.

Then de-industrialisation happened and the "natural" route for many of them (shit job-->Supervisor/Foreman-->Manager-->Kids go to Uni to become whatever) was not so much shut as had a metal plate shoved over it and welded shut.

End result is the ghettos and "no go zones" which the UK media says totally don't exist...

But there's a reason the Indian-Dominated Golden Mile in Leicester gets a Tourism Brown Signpost directing you there and other areas... do not.


What do you guys think what will happen in the end? Do all these virtue signalers think they’ve done anything? Call me dumb, but the more I think of this incident of George Floyd, I seem to think that people have become useless drones as they only gave a shit about Floyd is because the media told them to care.

The problem isn't so much whats happening now, but what will happen in 10-20 years when some of these morons go into front line politics. We've allowed across much of the West to have these seeds sown and they're only getting bolder. In the UK, for example, Uni Students are less concerned about Democracy, Rule of Law and Freedom of Speech than they are about "Safe Zones" to allow people to express themselves however they want.

We're breeding a weird, weird group of hedonistic authortarians and I do not know how we're going to fix that short of having to do a number of terrible things.
 
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