2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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I mean, this dude doesn't even control his own interviews anymore. His handlers will literally cut him off mid-sentence if it looks like he's about to go off-script. No wind-down, no warning, just a kill switch that slams us into a black screen and the journalists have absolutely no questions about it. He's kept in such a tight bubble that they'd be better off just fucking deep-faking him, because he's clearly not the one in charge, anyways.
These debates are not fucking happening. Not without Biden's handlers demanding massive changes to the normal proceedings. All digital, not live, Biden's team get final cut approval, Trump is on a strict time limit, Biden can take as long as he wants, etc etc. I don't think its about rigging the debates any more. Its just about making Biden look neurotypical.
 
These debates are not fucking happening. Not without Biden's handlers demanding massive changes to the normal proceedings. All digital, not live, Biden's team get final cut approval, Trump is on a strict time limit, Biden can take as long as he wants, etc etc. I don't think its about rigging the debates any more. Its just about making Biden look neurotypical.
Undoubtedly yet another facet of the political virus fiasco as well. "We can't have a debate because Trump might give Biden the Kung Flu!" Or something along those asinine lines.
 
Undoubtedly yet another facet of the political virus fiasco as well. "We can't have a debate because Trump might give Biden the Kung Flu!" Or something along those asinine lines.
Trump should just pull a Clint Eastwood and talk to a robot dressed up in a KKK outfit with a Biden mask.

Rewrite the terms of the debate since Trump is heavily aware looking at tonight's Tucker of how the mainstream media will not let him win.
 
Undoubtedly yet another facet of the political virus fiasco as well. "We can't have a debate because Trump might give Biden the Kung Flu!" Or something along those asinine lines.
I don't think it's gonna be that way. They'll talk with Trump's camp and list their demands, knowing he won't agree to any of it. They both want to be in control over everything to make Trump look bad and give Biden a fighting chance by Handicapping Trump. Then they'll publicly say something like "Trump is too scared to face Biden" or some shit. And then Trump will have a rally the night the debates were supposed to happen and tell what really happened. Or just tweet about it after the meeting is over.
 
I don't think it's gonna be that way. They'll talk with Trump's camp and list their demands, knowing he won't agree to any of it. They both want to be in control over everything to make Trump look bad and give Biden a fighting chance by Handicapping Trump. Then they'll publicly say something like "Trump is too scared to face Biden" or some shit. And then Trump will have a rally the night the debates were supposed to happen and tell what really happened. Or just tweet about it after the meeting is over.

Bonus if he records it and offers proof of what they demanded.
 
I agree. No way in hell will Bidens handlers let him go up against Trump live on air.

The question I have is how the fuck are they going to spin that issue?

You know Trump will push for a debate and push hard. And then hammer Biden over and over for chickening out. It won't play well with most of middle class America that's for sure.

Picking Biden was just an all round stupid decision...but I guess...who else could it have been?
 
I agree. No way in hell will Bidens handlers let him go up against Trump live on air.

The question I have is how the fuck are they going to spin that issue?

You know Trump will push for a debate and push hard. And then hammer Biden over and over for chickening out. It won't play well with most of middle class America that's for sure.

Picking Biden was just an all round stupid decision...but I guess...who else could it have been?
Klobuchar, Warren, or even one of the also-rans like O'Rourke. They would have been totally reliant on the (D) to get the votes, but they'd be in better shape than they are now.
 
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Ben kind kinda shares the same views I did, that Biden is such a fuck up that Bernie would have been a better choice for Trump to face.


Shapiro - once again - falsely projecting his own dislike for Trump's demeanor and attitude on to the electorate. If Trump is so 'off-putting" , why was he headed for a comfortable victory before Corona hit? He's the same guy.
 
Shapiro - once again - falsely projecting his own dislike for Trump's demeanor and attitude on to the electorate. If Trump is so 'off-putting" , why was he headed for a comfortable victory before Corona hit? He's the same guy.
I'm pretty sure more people like Trump than Shapiro, so what does that say about Ben?

Coronavirus is simply a storm that Trump has to weather. It would be no different if any other Republican was in the White House. Look no further than the media's coverage of DeSantis/Kemp versus that of Cuomo/Newsome for proof.
 
Coronavirus is simply a storm that Trump has to weather. It would be no different if any other Republican was in the White House. Look no further than the media's coverage of DeSantis/Kemp versus that of Cuomo/Newsome for proof.

Don't get me wrong - it's obviously true that if Biden hides all the time it's an advantage for him because few people see his dementia on full display. He gets to be "Generic D" running against Trump, and they always poll better than any specific person.

But all this crap about "Trump is his own worst enemy" from guys on the Right is tiresome and played out.
 
These debates are not fucking happening. Not without Biden's handlers demanding massive changes to the normal proceedings. All digital, not live, Biden's team get final cut approval, Trump is on a strict time limit, Biden can take as long as he wants, etc etc. I don't think its about rigging the debates any more. Its just about making Biden look neurotypical.
I agree. No way in hell will Bidens handlers let him go up against Trump live on air.

The question I have is how the fuck are they going to spin that issue?

You know Trump will push for a debate and push hard. And then hammer Biden over and over for chickening out. It won't play well with most of middle class America that's for sure.

Picking Biden was just an all round stupid decision...but I guess...who else could it have been?
You guys are forgetting that Biden did ok against his debate against Bernie.

Mostly because he was probably pampered ahead of time. I'm sure they could do the same against Tramp even if he will probably falter.
 
But all this crap about "Trump is his own worst enemy" from guys on the Right is tiresome and played out.
If any of those losers were actually good at politics, the base would have never needed to turn to Trump in the first place. So forgive us for not following people who have already been proven to be blind.
 
These debates are not fucking happening. Not without Biden's handlers demanding massive changes to the normal proceedings. All digital, not live, Biden's team get final cut approval, Trump is on a strict time limit, Biden can take as long as he wants, etc etc. I don't think its about rigging the debates any more. Its just about making Biden look neurotypical.
You forget that Trump has agency too, and he'll never let go on any bullshit Biden's campaign team tries to pull concerning the debates.

He'll force the issues, call Biden and his handlers out for weakness and duplicity, and make them bring out Biden for a "proper" debate with standard rules. He'll go from show to news reel to talk about how much of a feeble coward Biden is, he'll excoriate Biden's campaign for their flaccid attempts to hide Biden's infirmities, and he'll do it very loudly. It'll be a complete bloodbath if they even try this shit you say they will.
 
You forget that Trump has agency too, and he'll never let go on any bullshit Biden's campaign team tries to pull concerning the debates.

He'll force the issues, call Biden and his handlers out for weakness and duplicity, and make them bring out Biden for a "proper" debate with standard rules. He'll go from show to news reel to talk about how much of a feeble coward Biden is, he'll excoriate Biden's campaign for their flaccid attempts to hide Biden's infirmities, and he'll do it very loudly. It'll be a complete bloodbath if they even try this shit you say they will.
It would be very excited to watch also!

I don’t see how Biden can get out of the debates quite yet. We’ve still got some time and it’s safe to assume for now they’re still on. But my god does he look crazier and crazier as the days pass.
 
You guys are forgetting that Biden did ok against his debate against Bernie.

Mostly because he was probably pampered ahead of time. I'm sure they could do the same against Tramp even if he will probably falter.

I think for Biden or any other candidate it's hard to prep against a guy like Trump, he could just go off on something you're not really prepared to defend yourself against. With Bernie it was insanely easy to prep for him, he's a one trick pony that always talks about the same handful of issues and ideas, he's not gonna go off into left field and start off on tangents or say off the cuff things that Biden would have to respond to, I think Trump could trip him up if given the opportunity.
 
It would be very excited to watch also!

I don’t see how Biden can get out of the debates quite yet. We’ve still got some time and it’s safe to assume for now they’re still on. But my god does he look crazier and crazier as the days pass.
Biden is Moore's law applied to dementia. His cognitive decline doubles every 1.5-2 months.

By the time of the debates he'll be 4x as demented.
 
I mean, if you like war, selling the U.S. to China, lining your pockets with kick-backs and bribes, extra-judicial assassinations of American citizens on foreign soil and murdering civilians overseas, yeah, Joe's got a lot to offer. If you're not a psychotic war-hawk or a corrupt politician, uh... Probably not. It'd be a boot-legged version of Obama's time in office (For the 8 weeks that it takes Biden to die I guess), and Obama did an awful lot of shit that wasn't exactly fantastic.
I;m a psychotic war hawk but I don't like joe Biden. not all war hawks are crazy and it's slanderous for you to say such a thing.
 
Picking Biden was just an all round stupid decision...but I guess...who else could it have been?

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Still thinking about her... It's like everyone forgot that we could have had a Hawaiian surf mom for president, singing us to sleep every night... Aloha, sweet princess.... :heart-empty:

In all seriousness, I have no idea who the Dems could have realistically run. Bernie seems like the obvious choice, but actual Democratic voters showed twice in the past 4 years that Bernie was just too extreme. So naturally the Dems decided to double down on the extreme leftist tactics, alienating center-left people.
 
You guys are forgetting that Biden did ok against his debate against Bernie.

Mostly because he was probably pampered ahead of time. I'm sure they could do the same against Tramp even if he will probably falter.
You're forgetting how fast dementia can progress. That said, even if Biden is somewhat lucid, I've said this before and I'll say it again, Trump doesn't consider himself to be Biden's friend.

Rhetorically speaking, Trump will not be either pulling his punches or lobbing softballs, he's going to go after Biden like he went after Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz and Hillary Clinton, and Biden is not going to be capable of effectively responding. All this silly crap about polls and for example, "Biden number bigger than teh Trump number!!!!1111!!!" specifically, will not prevent the rhetorical asskicking Biden is going to be receiving soon.
 
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