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[Sourceress]

Women's spaces don't exist to separate the sexes just because, they exist to protect the (weaker) women from the (stronger) men.
If you accept this, it's perfectly logical to kick trans-identified women from women's spaces. They made themselves stronger and (more importantly) more threatening. Women have every right to kick out the people who deliberately made themselves look like a threat. As to where they should go -- it's no longer our problem.

This is not a compassionate stance, and I don't necessarily support it for all spaces. But it is logical and keeps males out.

While I agree with you that, by and large, women's spaces exist for reasons of safety, your entire argument relies solely on sexist stereotypes about women being too weak to defend themselves and the (false) idea that every woman who identifies as trans is taking testosterone and has become a physical threat to other women as a result. Those are not solid bases for an argument, especially when the group you're trying to exclude based on a "safety" argument includes, for example, young "nonbinary" girls who don't take testosterone and whose trans identification is in name only, or straight "gay transmen" who are incredibly feminine in dress and appearance and have no intention of doing any kind of medical transition, and so on.

While statistics do show that ftms who are on testosterone exhibit somewhat higher rates of violent crime than women who are not on testosterone, for the most part these women don't pose a threat to other women, at least not physically, especially if they aren't on testosterone. This is a bad argument.

(Now, if you want to argue that women who take testosterone should be banned from women's sports and similar physical activities, for safety reasons, you would have my wholehearted support.)

Far be it from me to try to interfere in women's spaces, but... just a suggestion here: shouldn't the argument be "you're fucking it up for everybody else here, shape up or get the fuck out"?

How about... idk... a woman space with only women, no FtM (who've been on T), no MtF?

This is very, very difficult in the current political climate. Because all the expelled trans-identified women have to do is cry that they're being oppressed and discriminated against, and the group that kicked them out will either be shut down (one way or another) or forced into hiding for the physical safety of those involved.

Then you get accused of TERF'ing, which, all things considered, isn't the worst thing in the world logically speaking, but socially you may as well be accused of beating puppies.

Honestly, it's not being called a TERF in and of itself that's so bad - it's the rape and death threats, loss of your job/livelihood, constant harassment, dick pics, becoming a social pariah, etc. that being labeled a "TERF" brings with it that makes women (rightfully, to be quite honest) fear the label and do anything in their power to avoid being subject to it.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

But I don’t understand why FTMs and enbies want to be in a woman’s space. Wouldn’t that cause dysphoria?

 

[Sourceress]

But I don’t understand why FTMs and enbies want to be in a woman’s space. Wouldn’t that cause dysphoria?

Honestly, the amount of trans-identified people with dysphoria is absurdly low. Of course, they'll all claim to have it, but most of them just don't.

Really I think it's a kind of willful ignorance thing. They want to talk about how they're manly men or androgynous enbies, definitely not feeemales, but when they need support because they're pregnant, or they were raped, or whatever... they know they're female enough to go to that support group, or OB/GYN appointment, or whatever. But they have to maintain their delusions (and feel super special/"not like the other girls"), so when they get in those groups they force them to modify their language, customs, etc. to suit them.

 

[Iron Hamster]

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lol @ the raccoon eyes.

 

[Pitere pit]

I also have to say that TIFs can be insidous as TIMs.
In my country there is a female hygiene company that donates some of its profita for the investigation on a cure against breast cancer. Tifs got mad that one of its catchphrases in ands were in the lines of "the strenght of being a woman". I don't know if tifs succeeded on that boycott.
Also, I have noticed that troons don't know that people have functioning sight, they proclaim that we can assume a man with a Habsburg's chin is a woman or a 5'2 scrawny woman is a man. Even blind people can separate the sexes only by smell. Who are they fooling? Are blinds bigots?

 

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r/ennnnnnnnnnnnbbbbbby - I don’t understand...

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[AnOminous]

How about... idk... a woman space with only women, no FtM (who've been on T), no MtF?

FtMs actually are women, though, just a really annoying kind.

 

[homewayhalf]

FtMs actually are women, though, just a really annoying kind.

Yeah, the entire TERF argument is that you CAN’T change your sex, and segregated bathrooms were set up on the basis of sex. Therefore no matter what they do, TIFs remain women and TIMs don’t.

 

[Swerf'n'Terf]

Nah, you can keep spaces just for women while remaining ideologically consistent.

Woman is a protected class, and protected classes are exclusive by nature. A person can choose to waive the protections granted to them, ad hoc or modify the circumstances of their protected status. As an example, a person with a disability might choose to reject accommodations in a specific circumstance, or might pursue medical treatments that change or void their need to receive accommodations. It's a reasonable comparison to say that FtM require protections for their trans status, but not for their female status since they have revoked those protections.

It's not really important whether you can actually change sex, it's about the fundamental purpose of protected spaces.

Anyway social media sideshows: r/TransphobiaProject tackling the important issues:

 

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

Nah, you can keep spaces just for women while remaining ideologically consistent.

Woman is a protected class, and protected classes are exclusive by nature. A person can choose to waive the protections granted to them, ad hoc or modify the circumstances of their protected status. As an example, a person with a disability might choose to reject accommodations in a specific circumstance, or might pursue medical treatments that change or void their need to receive accommodations. It's a reasonable comparison to say that FtM require protections for their trans status, but not for their female status since they have revoked those protections.

It's not really important whether you can actually change sex, it's about the fundamental purpose of protected spaces.

Anyway social media sideshows: r/TransphobiaProject tackling the important issues:

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Fuck porn in general, but the fact that they want to police what people get off to in their free time is absolutely pathetic to me.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Nah, you can keep spaces just for women while remaining ideologically consistent.

Woman is a protected class, and protected classes are exclusive by nature. A person can choose to waive the protections granted to them, ad hoc or modify the circumstances of their protected status. As an example, a person with a disability might choose to reject accommodations in a specific circumstance, or might pursue medical treatments that change or void their need to receive accommodations. It's a reasonable comparison to say that FtM require protections for their trans status, but not for their female status since they have revoked those protections.

It's not really important whether you can actually change sex, it's about the fundamental purpose of protected spaces.

That doesn't work, because of all the screaming about "transwomen are real women". You might be able to kick FTMs out, but then you open yourself up for MTFs trying to barge in saying they're True and Hones Women.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I would love to see PornHub include tgirls in the regular category. The lulz would be immense.

 

[AnOminous]

Nah, you can keep spaces just for women while remaining ideologically consistent.

Woman is a protected class, and protected classes are exclusive by nature.

Except for women. Now, the rule is that all you have to do to get female privileges is just claim to be one, and nobody can stop you, and in some countries, it's even a hate crime to say you're full of shit, no matter how obviously you're just doing it for some blatant advantage.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Except for women. Now, the rule is that all you have to do to get female privileges is just claim to be one, and nobody can stop you, and in some countries, it's even a hate crime to say you're full of shit, no matter how obviously you're just doing it for some blatant advantage.

I don’t understand why conservatives allow this in other countries. Hasn’t the Conservative party been in control of UK for quite a while? Yet there is constant troon enabling there.

 

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

Except for women. Now, the rule is that all you have to do to get female privileges is just claim to be one, and nobody can stop you, and in some countries, it's even a hate crime to say you're full of shit, no matter how obviously you're just doing it for some blatant advantage.

I mentioned about a year ago in this thread that at my alma mater, misgendering can trigger a title IX investigation. I know for a fact I would have been fired from my on-campus position for saying trans women are literally not women, and I wouldn't have been able to walk at graduation.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I really hate when trans allies lie. I saw one say ‘nobody’s trying to ignore biological sex’. But you are, though. Or when they say ‘kids aren’t getting surgeries!’ Why do they love lying about the trans positions?

 

[Corn Flakes]

I really hate when trans allies lie. I saw one say ‘nobody’s trying to ignore biological sex’. But you are, though. Or when they say ‘kids aren’t getting surgeries!’ Why do they love lying about the trans positions?

Motte-and-bailey. If you point out their extreme position, they immediately deflect by asking why you're disagreeing with their moderate position. In this case, pointing out troons are trying to rewrite/ignore the biological meaning of sex results in cries of "why are you being so mean to innocent transgender people?!". After all, plenty of people have problems with trying to ignore biology, but very few people think being mean to other people is a good thing.

 

[AnOminous]

Motte-and-bailey. If you point out their extreme position, they immediately deflect by asking why you're disagreeing with their moderate position. In this case, pointing out troons are trying to rewrite/ignore the biological meaning of sex results in cries of "why are you being so mean to innocent transgender people?!". After all, plenty of people have problems with trying to ignore biology, but very few people think being mean to other people is a good thing.

It's such an annoying argument strategy it doesn't make you want to agree with their moderate position, it makes you irritated enough you're like okay, fuck your motte AND your bailey, gas the troons, gender war now.

 

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

fuck your motte AND your bailey, gas the troons, gender war now.

Motte-and-bailey. If you point out their extreme position, they immediately deflect by asking why you're disagreeing with their moderate position.

I'm a lil exceptional and didn't quite understand what the infamous @BoxerShorts47 was trying to get at when he said "moat and bailey" in his containment thread over at the general discussion, but was too embarrassed to ask so sincere thanks for the clarification.

 

[Sourceress]

I don’t understand why conservatives allow this in other countries. Hasn’t the Conservative party been in control of UK for quite a while? Yet there is constant troon enabling there.

Conservatives are largely under the impression (like the general public largely is as well) that troons are all homosexual, so they support them because it means that all those icky nasty gays are just straight people "trapped in the wrong body", and letting them transition theoretically means that their relationships will at least appear straight.

IOW transgenderism allows conservatives to pretend that gay trans people are just "broken" straight people and they support transition because it allows the gays to live their "true lives" as defective heteros.