2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[MichaelScarn]

I think one issue is that no one really seems to know when Gen Z is. I have heard 2000s and 1997, and I guess now 1996. Many media outlets may seem to be mixing in Millenials, which seems to compose most of BreadTube. That or they are being hopeful that their dying party can have some light.

I may agree on the “socially conscious“ point to an extent though...
The generation is pretty accepting of LGBT, even on the Republican side, so that could line up with the definition. Schools also took in a lot more Arabic children after Bush and Obama started bombing things, so that may also play into things as Gen Z is accepting of the people, even if they do not like the religion. But it seems very surface level to my knowledge. The generation just lacks any hatred towards groups, instead of placing them on a pedestal like Millennials tend to. They are just integrated in more.

African-Americans are also included as us Gen Z Bois gotta get them N-word passes.


I am fully expecting a Republican turn out. A majority of Zoomers I have interacted with are exceedingly right-wing. Just the other day, a girl at my work was going over the Epstein pedo-island with her friend and a new girl. Now that the riots have happened, most Gen Z is going to be pushed further towards conservatism.

Your reasons are completely anecdotal. I don't think you're necessarily wrong, but this isn't enough to be remotely conclusive of anything

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Most people have political views that reflect the environment they grew up in. If you live in a conservative area, most Zoomers will be conservative. If you don’t, they aren’t.

 

[-4ZURE-]

Most people have political views that reflect the environment they grew up in. If you live in a conservative area, most Zoomers will be conservative. If you don’t, they aren’t.

I want to say that I think online may be changing this, as Zoomers are getting more conservative experiences through the internet. I actually live in one of the super blue states (Illinois) only around an hour out from Chicago, and a majority of my experiences have been around those that are fairly red in ideology at my age. I see what you are saying, but I do think YouTube becoming a red think tank since 2013 has actually impacted the generation and bypassed area politics to some degree.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I want to say that I think online may be changing this, as Zoomers are getting more conservative experiences through the internet. I actually live in one of the super blue states (Illinois) only around an hour out from Chicago, and a majority of my experiences have been around those that are fairly red in ideology at my age. I see what you are saying, but I do think YouTube becoming a red think tank since 2013 has actually impacted the generation and bypassed area politics to some degree.

Also anecdotally, but I see a lot more ‘socially conservative but fiscally left’ from young people online.
I honestly do not think there will be a large return to actual social conservatism among young people who were not raised in that environment. People like weed, booze, and casual sex.

I also don’t think believing that Epstein had a pedo island is right wing.

 

[-4ZURE-]

Also anecdotally, but I see a lot more ‘socially conservative but fiscally left’ from young people online.
I honestly do not think there will be a large return to actual social conservatism among young people who were not raised in that environment. People like weed, booze, and casual sex.

I also don’t think believing that Epstein had a pedo island is right wing.

Sorry for the anecdotes, but it is the most I can offer here. There were polls in 2016 if I remember that did show the generation was going more conservative if that means something? Not sure if there is any real way to prove anything other than the voting in 2020, so I will leave it to that now.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Sorry for the anecdotes, but it is the most I can offer here. There were polls in 2016 if I remember that did show the generation was going more conservative if that means something? Not sure if there is any real way to prove anything other than the voting in 2020, so I will leave it to that now.

The other problem is ‘conservative’ doesn’t mean anything by itself. ‘I want a lower capital gains tax’ and ‘I want abortion to be illegal’ don’t really have anything to do with each other.

 

[-4ZURE-]

The other problem is ‘conservative’ doesn’t mean anything by itself. ‘I want a lower capital gains tax’ and ‘I want abortion to be illegal’ don’t really have anything to do with each other.

True, the term is in a weird state at the moment as what it means to be a conservative is rather questionable. Many are probably just liberals, but thanks to the super-left of Twitter and the constant protests and riots, they align with the right now.

 

[Meat Target]

I think we need to take into account the social media bias.

After all if one only looked at Twitter, Facebook and shit sites like Reddit Bernie should be the nominee by a landslide.

So how did that turn out?


I think we're just going to have to go in blind this time around. We will know who won only after the dust settles. And the string of court cases the losing side is likely to launch.

True, the term is in a weird state at the moment as what it means to be a conservative is rather questionable. Many are probably just liberals, but thanks to the super-left of Twitter and the constant protests and riots, they align with the right now.

I desperately want you to be right. Becoming politically active in the Obama years (I first voted in 2010 or 12) has worn down my expectations, and I still feel like Trump's win was ultimately a fluke of circumstance.

 

[heyitsmike]

I still feel like Trump's win was ultimately a fluke of circumstance.

Judging by the right wing populist victories around the world since, it was more of a foreshadowing than a fluke.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

If Republicans continue their standard ‘bailouts for corporations, nothing for the regular person’, which is not populist, they will at best keep the same number of seats.

 

[Jarolleon]

And yet libtards like Kyle Kulinski continue to sperg out about campaign finance reform and "oligarchs" buying elections, etc etc.

At no point does he stop to consider that his hypothesis has just been decisively proven false.

Just because it's possible to win against an opponent with more resources doesn't mean that it isn't an advantage.

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Well, considering that people like Keith Ellison--The former DNC Vice-Chair, current Minnesota Attorney General, and associate of Farrakhan--is all but outright saying that he doesn't want police officers to respond to rape calls, I'd say there's some room to be a little bit alarmed, and that perhaps people would be wise to pay an extra bit of attention.

When I wrote up all of that stuff about the politics of fear, I was not envisioning that barely a few years later we'd have an entire political party that wanted to abolish the police force and allow violent rioters to tear down their own cities. I knew that things were going to get a little bonkers, I just wasn't expecting them to embrace complete fucking anarchy and overt racism. When you have an entire political party threatening to burn your house down and beat the shit out of you, I don't consider it to be fear-mongering when the opposition to that party goes, "Hey, they're threatening to burn your house down and beat the shit out of you."

Is the official line that some separate force should respond to rape calls, because some social worker on Twitter said her tard-wrangling skills are perfect for the role?

 

[assdick42069]

If Republicans continue their standard ‘bailouts for corporations, nothing for the regular person’, which is not populist, they will at best keep the same number of seats.

Democrats aren't much more appealing with their "Means tested peanuts for people, massive windfalls for donators and other parasites"

 

[UselessIdiot]

If Republicans continue their standard ‘bailouts for corporations, nothing for the regular person’, which is not populist, they will at best keep the same number of seats.

That's why Trump happened in the first place. I'm afraid if the establishment abandons him, then it will just demoralize the right, and Democrats will control everything, because "muh Obamacare" and the other various crumbs they dole out.

I mean, who's really inspired to support the likes of McTurtle and Southern belle Lindsey Graham?

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

That's why Trump happened in the first place. I'm afraid if the establishment abandons him, then it will just demoralize the right, and Democrats will control everything, because "muh Obamacare" and the other various crumbs they dole out.

I mean, who's really inspired to support by the likes of McTurtle and Southern belle Lindsey Graham?

Incumbents in states that are heavily supportive of one party almost always get re-elected if they belong to that party. It’s not that people really like Mitch McConnell, it’s that they vote straight ticket Republican every time. Also having your state’s guy be a top dog in the Senate/House hopefully means your state gets more pork. Massachusetts never would’ve gotten the Big Dig if Tip O’Neill hadn’t been Speaker of the House.

But yeah, there’s a whole bunch of elected officials where I constantly wonder: who likes this guy?

 

[Tismguide]

Sorry for the anecdotes, but it is the most I can offer here. There were polls in 2016 if I remember that did show the generation was going more conservative if that means something? Not sure if there is any real way to prove anything other than the voting in 2020, so I will leave it to that now.

There's at least some evidence for it, but given how much the left loves changing definitions, it's hard to know how to interpret these things. It's a tough topic to get real data on, given how much the left fetishizes the youth knowing the way, before they have been taught to hate, and all that drivel.
https://hispanicheritage.org/50000-generation-z-high-school-students-identify-republican/
https://time.com/4909722/trump-millennials-igen-republicans-voters/
https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/health/millennials-conservative-generations/index.html

 

[heyitsmike]

I'm afraid if the establishment abandons him, then it will just demoralize the right

Wait... what? You think the likes of George W. Bush, Colin Powell, Mitt Romney, John Kasich and a bunch of other neocon losers abandoning Trump demoralizes me? Are you kidding? I love it!

There is nothing that could encourage me more than knowing that they know they are no longer welcome in the Republican Party.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Wait... what? You think the likes of George W. Bush, Colin Powell, Mitt Romney, John Kasich and a bunch of other neocon losers abandoning Trump demoralizes me? Are you kidding? I love it!

There is nothing that could encourage me more than knowing that they know they are no longer welcome in the Republican Party.

I assume by ‘the right’ they meant ‘the establishment right’, which unfortunately does have young people. I can’t imagine a less fun ideology to have when you’re 23, but they’re out there.

 

[heyitsmike]

I assume by ‘the right’ they meant ‘the establishment right’, which unfortunately does have young people. I can’t imagine a less fun ideology to have when you’re 23, but they’re out there.

After we dispose of the boomer neocons they will be next.

 

[UselessIdiot]

Wait... what? You think the likes of George W. Bush, Colin Powell, Mitt Romney, John Kasich and a bunch of other neocon losers abandoning Trump demoralizes me? Are you kidding? I love it!

There is nothing that could encourage me more than knowing that they know they are no longer welcome in the Republican Party.

I meant it as if Trump loses re-election and they're quick to go "I never liked the guy" or "He was too divisive". It's time to put that dark period behind us.", and all that's left all neocons and leftists. I don't think anyone likes neocons much, but they still seem to be the majority of elected Republicans.

The thought of Biden, Pelosi, and McConnell in 2020 is too dystopian to bear on top of everything else.

 

[heyitsmike]

I meant it as if Trump loses re-election and they're quick to go "I never liked the guy" or "He was too divisive". It's time to put that dark period behind us.",

Sometimes you win with winners. Sometimes you lose with winners. But never lose with losers.

I wanna win with Trump. I hope we don't lose with Trump. But I absolutely refuse to lose again with neocons.

I'm sure most of the base feels the same way. We're not going back.