China Floodwatch 2020-21 - Wuhan, Hubei/Henan Province is sinking and I dunno how to swim.

[Cycleye]

I guess any work in that vain would require draining most, if not all, of the water, that alone would take an absurd amount of time and can only happen as long as it doesn't threaten to cause floods downstream.
And most importantly, it would be a very visible sign that the dam is a failure.

3 choices

1. Pray it holds. it holds. Declare victorious engineering achievement.
2. Blow it up. Declare great visionary decision somehow and build monument for downstream party heroes.
3. It fails. Uprising against CCP and Winnie hanged from a lampost and corpse beaten like Mussolini.

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

How many active nuclear plants are on the Yangtze? I know they’re building or planning to build inland but aren’t most on the coast? Are there any currently active plants along the river?

According to this post:

Yes it was me. I meant to say reactors but still 3 nuke plants are on the river totall 11 reactors

Though I can't confirm if that is accurate information.

I guess any work in that vain would require draining most, if not all, of the water, that alone would take an absurd amount of time and can only happen as long as it doesn't threaten to cause floods downstream.
And most importantly, it would be a very visible sign that the dam is a failure.

The best I can picture is building vertical compartmentalized areas up against the reservoir-side of the dam. Then you drain one of these areas so you can work on a small vertical section of the reservoir-side. And you slowly work your way across the length of the dam. Removing the water from the reservoir is out of the question. Maybe you could lower it somewhat and do the work during a drier part of the year. But it seems like any work would have to be done section-by-section.

 

[Cutlass Supreme]

I'm not even sure how to go about repairing a dam of that size with a reservoir so large.

Surely they'd build it with systems put in place to facilitate repairs, right?
...right?

 

[I am the Muffin Maker]

With the way the Chinese have been making friends lately I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians have a few pointed their way as well.

Everyone who has the ability to point nukes at China has nukes pointed at China. And the US, and Russia and, and, and. Any place of strategic value already has various missiles pointed at it at all times.

How many active nuclear plants are on the Yangtze? I know they’re building or planning to build inland but aren’t most on the coast? Are there any currently active plants along the river?

I believe there are 25 plants on the river or in the active flood zone.

Here is a dated article on nuclear power in China: https://www.globalasia.org/v13no4/f...ing-the-case-at-home-first_tristan-kenderdine

it is quite thorough.

 

[Blasterisk]

Surely they'd build it with systems put in place to facilitate repairs, right?
...right?

Actually I think their plan is stuff the holes full of legally-acquired human livers.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Actually I think their plan is stuff the holes full of legally-acquired human livers.

Come to think of it, millions of skeletons would make for a cost-effective & renewable fill source.

 

[I can't imagine]

Maybe you could lower it somewhat and do the work during a drier part of the year. But it seems like any work would have to be done section-by-section.

I believe the U.S. did that with the Oroville Dam, though obviously the scale involved is different, and the specific nature of the two dams isn't exactly the same. But it did allow them to repair the spillway.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

I guess any work in that vain would require draining most, if not all, of the water, that alone would take an absurd amount of time and can only happen as long as it doesn't threaten to cause floods downstream.
And most importantly, it would be a very visible sign that the dam is a failure.

Depends on what needs repair. A spillway repair wouldn't require any draining beyond normal pool level. It's not like chinese health and safety would have any problems with people working below a gate under pressure. A repair to a gate would require the pool level below the bottom of the gate. Repairs to the dam structure itself would be complicated. It's much easier to reinforce an earthen dam after it's full than a concrete one.

I believe the U.S. did that with the Oroville Dam, though obviously the scale involved is different, and the specific nature of the two dams isn't exactly the same. But it did allow them to repair the spillway.

Correct. Kiewit had until 1 Nov each year to make repairs. The reservoir was also kept below normal pool level to increase the amount of holding capacity available. They still had to use the temporary, roller compacted concrete, spillway over the winter the first year.

 

[Fcret]

The jobs would most likely go to India. It may not be perfect, but so long as the poos don't go around subverting our cultural institutions or finance riots on the streets, I'd rather see India become Superpower 2020 and have China go into another warring states era.

Pooland is unlikely to be a manufacturing hub in our lifetime. The big draw of India is that you can build a high-tech complex and staff it with high-caste people who speak English passably to service the Anglophone world's computer problems. You can source a few thousand Pradeeps, stuff them in a building that's been designed to have guaranteed access to electricity and internet (unlike most of the country), and have them write routine business logic or tedious glue code in Java for cheap. The money is good and it's usually in hard currency which developing nations are almost always hard up for.

However, India as a whole is massively fractured and if you think state autonomy is a bitch in the US, a shitload of states in India have de facto customs borders between them. The literacy rate is 74.4%, which means a quarter of Indians are not even fit to hold most minimum wage gigs here in the US. There is an abundance of decent land for agriculture but not else in terms of resources, which means that 1) the country's natural tendency is for the majority of the population to work in low value-added agriculture for sustenace and/or exports, and 2) the country is not a good partner for the US, largest agricultural exporter in the world.

There are way more problems beyond this obviously, but if there's one lesson people really need to learn from the second half of the 20th century and the first half of the 21st, it's that having a massive population is not guaranteed to make you prosperous. Countries like the US with big populations that also make the big bucks do so because they have favorable geography, strong political and economic institutions, and a relatively highly-skilled general population. You can't zerg your way to the top, you have to actually build a society that makes hard compromises and acts inclusively so that people are invested enough to want to make it better. Your average Chinese citizen has seen what happens to those who get rich - the party disappears them and/or seizes their assets. So why even bother, their thinking goes, and the result? Everything is built like shit and people don't bat an eye when randos are mauled by industrial machinery or Mongolians.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Are we absolutely sure that God doesn't want China destroyed at this point?

I don't believe it's a coincidence that all of this shit is happening right after China tried to rewrite the Bible (and the Koran I guess) late last year. God may not be the constant fire and brimstone tosser He was in the Old Testament, but don't think for a second the Big Man Upstairs doesn't have some berserk buttons still.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

However, India as a whole is massively fractured and if you think state autonomy is a bitch in the US, a shitload of states in India have de facto customs borders between them. The literacy rate is 74.4%, which means a quarter of Indians are not even fit to hold most minimum wage gigs here in the US. There is an abundance of decent land for agriculture but not else in terms of resources, which means that 1) the country's natural tendency is for the majority of the population to work in low value-added agriculture for sustenace and/or exports, and 2) the country is not a good partner for the US, largest agricultural exporter in the world.

Valid point on literacy and internal issues, but India is actually pretty rich in natural resources since they have huge reserves of coal, iron, bauxite, titanium, and other resources. Not as rich as China, granted, but there's substantial reserves. Already India exports much of the world's iron and domestically is a major steel producer. If thorium power ever takes off then India has among the largest reserves of that too.

A lot of that agriculture goes to cows (of course) which already are being turned into leather (India is a huge producer). Pretty sure you already see lots of footwear and other leather goods made in India.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

3 choices

1. Pray it holds. it holds. Declare victorious engineering achievement.
2. Blow it up. Declare great visionary decision somehow and build monument for downstream party heroes.
3. It fails. Uprising against CCP and Winnie hanged from a lampost and corpse beaten like Mussolini.

>implying Xi doesn't have a bunker he is bailing too the second he gets the message the dam is breached

 

[SmugAutist]

>implying Xi doesn't have a bunker he is bailing too the second he gets the message the dam is breached

Would that be the same bunker Biden's been kept the last 4 months?

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Would that be the same bunker Biden's been kept the last 4 months?

>Xi and Biden's wacky adventures in the fuhrerbunker
Would make a good sitcom I guess

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

Despite the efforts of the CCP, the water in the Three Gorges Dam's reservoir and several other areas continues to rise. Many of these areas were holding steady until this afternoon. We'll have to see what the next few days bring in order to establish any patterns. And it is worth noting that the increase in water levels across the board are relatively minor. That said, the water level decreases are also relatively minor. But these numbers take into account several dams being destroyed and days of water draining out of the main estuaries and into rural villages in order to save the Three Gorges reservoir. Most outlying areas are already completely inundated both up and downstream. And cities such as Wuhan and Shanghai which are quite distant are still under water.

Numbers are from 25th July at 11PM. Source: http://www.cjh.com.cn/swyb_sssq.html

(red indicates water rising in reservoirs / green indicates water dropping in reservoirs / black indicates a steady water level in reservoirs)

And I'll post this again since it has changed slightly; the forecast doesn't look good:

And this forecast is for Sandouping, the immediate vicinity of the Three Gorges Dam. It does not take into account the millions of acres of land surrounding it that will also be sopping up water and funneling it into their respective waterways.

 

[D.Va]

I recommend you use http://3gd.mooo.com/ for tracking the current numbers; the project is tracking the official statistics and displays historic data back to the 19th, while also providing a reliable reference for the 3GD inflow because it's missing from those official reports most of the time. Summary as of writing:

• Flow in Chongqing is again accelerating towards the levels it was at over a week ago.
• 3GD inflow is greater than the outflow again, not just because the inflow is rising, but because the outflow is a bit low right now.
• After a slow decline over the week, the water level in Wuhan is starting to rise again, increasing by 5cm over the past 24 hours to around 28.4m.

They must be underestimating the inflow because the 24-hour graph looks like this, which makes no sense (water level shouldn't be rising if outflow > inflow). With the current storm, it's going to rise by quite a bit again.

I'm not expecting the dam to burst, but with the designated floodplains like Anhui already expended it is likely that Wuhan will experience floods later this week.

 

[I-chi]

Are we absolutely sure that God doesn't want China destroyed at this point?

With absolutely everything that has been unleashed upon them since last December, I think it's made way more of a believer out of me than the Bible itself ever did. Fuck'em all.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

With absolutely everything that has been unleashed upon them since last December, I think it's made way more of a believer out of me than the Bible itself ever did. Fuck'em all.

Well...... Asia literally has living idols (and/or The State), which they unironically mass-worship; but our Western style of idolatry is a lot more individualised, hence the clownworld chaos we see here.

At least that's my lay theory, and I ain't exactly been a man of God, neither.

 

[D.Va]

3GD intake surged to 52,000m³/s over the last few hours. Flow in Chongqing is the highest it has been since tracking started last week.

Faggots have been uploading videos from old floods and claiming it is in China (e.g. that Serbia 2014 flood video with the car) so be wary before sharing such content.

 

[Judge Holden]

I don't believe it's a coincidence that all of this shit is happening right after China tried to rewrite the Bible (and the Koran I guess) late last year. God may not be the constant fire and brimstone tosser He was in the Old Testament, but don't think for a second the Big Man Upstairs doesn't have some berserk buttons still.

Ya know......I hate to say I called this at the beginning of the year but....

And this was just about some paltry pig die-off thats long since been overshadowed by the more pressing divine curses inflicted upon china.