U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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I agree. You want to know the flaw in your reasoning? You think pampered and indoctrinated college kids are the enemy. They ain't. Their pawns and sacrificial ones. Now if the people behind them faced deadly consequences for their actions then you'd be right. But they don't. And bolshie students will be furnished again and again. Killing some of them, even if it were ethical, acceptable and proportional (which it ain't), still would not do anything other than help your actual enemies.
They're bait. That's all they are.
no i don't. the indoctrinated college kids at the protests are the foot soldiers, the real enemy are the people who do the indoctrination, who develop and spread the ideology, who organize and finance the movement. also, todays indoctrinated college kids are tomorrows college indoctrinators and protest organizers, so portraying them as mere sacrificial pawns is not entirely accurate.

No, it is more than that. It is a way of distinguishing sides. They give up their freedom, we do not. Does that make our way of fighting more difficult? Yes. Is it the only way to win long term? Yes. We're all the same people. It's not differences in skin colour that defines one person as some Antifa type and another as Joe Conservative. It's behaviour. Demanding one group make its behaviour the same as the other group is to erase the meaningful difference between them. Victory where I become exactly like the people I dislike is no victory.
this is just absurd and nonsensical. literal "if you kill him you will be just as bad like him!" hollywood drivel.
the means they are willing to deploy is not what distinguishes the sides, this only distinguishes fence sitting centrist boomers who just want to grill from the rest of the population. what does distinguish the enemy is their end goal and the underlying ideology and worldview, notably leftism/marxism.
 
But "defund the police" is the pro-freedom anti-authoritarian stance. What do people actually mean when they say freedom?
Their freedom to enforce policies written by the purple-haired cat ladies and troons in AmazonDisneyTwitterPepsiCo's HR departments to the whole world. They don't even want actual communism, they want GlobalMegaCorp monopolies that mandate their views without interrupting their CapeShit streaming and next day dildo delivery.
 
no i don't. the indoctrinated college kids at the protests are the foot soldiers, the real enemy are the people who do the indoctrination, who develop and spread the ideology, who organize and finance the movement. also, todays indoctrinated college kids are tomorrows college indoctrinators and protest organizers, so portraying them as mere sacrificial pawns is not entirely accurate.

Only way this crap stops is if there is a collapse. Due to the covid economics, pension fund debt in many localities, infrastructure in disrepair and managed by diversity hire and other things one is coming.

That kid screaming we had nothing. You really think he could survive in a fallout like landscape? I sure dont.

Plus technology is what gave rise to the psychological conditions which made this left wing shit appealing. Why save something that's producing a societal cancer?
 
But "defund the police" is the pro-freedom anti-authoritarian stance. What do people actually mean when they say freedom?
It is not really though, defending the police means police will be way less likely to be trained in non lethal control methods, less likely to receive less then lethal tools/weapons (mace, taser, etc), less likely to receive mental health crisis and deescalation training, and all the "good" police candidates (those with high training and 4 year degrees who are all less likely to use force as per studies done a few years ago), will go else where as they can get way better paying jobs with better benefits (if the police get defunded there goes any decent benfits that might attract people even with bad pay) else where, leaving the reminding cops in the more likely to use deadly force group due to lack of training and lack of education.

Authoritarian and Totalitarian states love police who use lethal force/don't give a shit about the well being of their citizenship.

And if we go the "abolish the police" then we are in a state of anarchy which to quote Hobbes on the state of nature
" Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of War, where every man is Enemy to every man; the same is consequent to the time, wherein men live without other security, than what their own strength, and their own invention shall furnish them with all. In such condition, there is no place for Industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no Culture of the Earth; no Navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by Sea; no commodious Building; no Instruments of moving, and removing things as require much force; no Knowledge of the face of the Earth; no account of Time; no Arts; no Letters; no Society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; And the life of man solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short. "
 
It's also why it's funny watching the general collapse and the fallout from that in places like the UK. We've still got a lot of problems, but watching Labour's power shrink and them have to desperately appeal to idiots more and more is fun.

I'd say at this point the US could go two ways.

1) Democrats get a Labour style drubbing in November and react the way Labour has - purging the far left, appointing technocrats and waiting for support for the right to start to fall while doing their best to appear a competent government in waiting.
2) Democrats win the election and purge the right.

2) won't be the end of this. It'll just make it worse.
 
I'm at the point that anyone claiming to be a 'Veteran' I demand to see a DD-214. Anyone trying to run the Navy SEAL copypasta IRL, I want to see an OMPF before I accept that you 'keeled fiddy men' on Okinawa.
Or, just ask them what their MOS was. Watch them sputter as they try to dodge the question, because they were a stock clerk at 29 Palms or a Chairborne Ranger in the Green Zone.
 
They've
Unless you're the Turks/Ottomans.

Then you lose the war fucking horrifically and still go on to slaughter three different ethnic groups under your watch. (Armenians, Greeks and Kurds)

Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians. Kurds helped the turks commit the massacres only to find themselves being oppressed next.
 
Yeah, no. He's actually a massive cockhead and has done more to rip apart the right in Ontario than any ANTIFA could ever do. He's booted from every single group he's ever joined, and has a Stomp on Sight order from numerous groups. He has massive delusions of grandeur and reees endlessly about how he's the only REAL patriot and everyone else is a cuck. Perhaps the most obnoxious guy in the whole Right.

Did you have to break my heart? I've had a man-crush on him forever. Now it's over.
 
Using lethal force will create martyrs and once November rolls around, I expect the unrest to be quelled, either by Trump winning a second term and sending the DOJ to really crack down on Antifa and BLM or by Biden winning and the DNC along with their corporate overlords finally cutting the line since they're loose cannons and have already served their purpose.

Not using lethal force will end up with martyrs too, they'll just be the good guys in uniforms. If you have a choice between martyrs on your side or martyrs on their side, let them have their martyrs.
 
Not using lethal force will end up with martyrs too, they'll just be the good guys in uniforms. If you have a choice between martyrs on your side or martyrs on their side, let them have their martyrs.

Yeah, I'm at the point where I think the media should just be ignored completely. Let them whine on twitter if they want. Bring down the full force of the government on the Portland commies.
 
"if you kill your enemies, they win" has always and will always be a retarded take


the key is to destroy them to the point where they will never have "their turn in power" because they no longer exist. that's how america dealt with the confederates, that's how they dealt with the nazi party, that's how you have to deal with the marxists too.


authoritarianism is merely a means to an end, a tool, a weapon to be used. the enemy is not authoritarian, they're totalitarian, which is (arguably) more dangerous and insidious than regular old authoritarianism.
your insistence on holding back, on refusing authoritarian measures, is well-meaning, but misguided and naive, and will ultimately result in handing victory to the totalitarian enemy, who will promptly crack down on you and stomp into the dirt every liberty you sought to preserve in the first place.
Not quite true with the Confederates, Lincoln made sure to give them the best treatment anyone who ever lost a civil war received, to the point that all their fears of "Northern Tyranny" subsided until the Civil Rights Era after the end of Reconstruction.
 
Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Russians, Hispanics, Indonesians, Arabs, not one other group would subvert itself to pander to African criminals.
I'd hate to appear to single out a valueposter, but Russians don't belong on this list in spirit. They (we) may not pander to African criminals, but that's only because they have geographically closer black-ass criminals to pander to. Right now Armenians and Azerbaijanis are fighting over the commercial real estate market in Moscow, and of course the whole of Russia pays ungodly tribute to the independent Islamic state of Chechnya. Russian laws do not apply to Chechens in Russia - Russians have to formally (via Instagram) petition Kadyrov.
 
18 U.S. Code § 2384. Seditious conspiracy



Even if a local police precinct isn't US property, by taking control of it (and as stated by officers in Minneapolis) when the precinct was "given up" evidence of crimes were left in the precinct and have now been destroyed and/or compromised, not to mention the one(s) in Seattle that were set ablaze, and the CHOP one too where rioters got in to. These actions "prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States" and were all done by force.
Police precincts in Seattle don't execute the laws of the United States. They execute the laws of the State of Washington and the Seattle Municipal Code. The US law on seditious conspiracy addresses sedition against the United States, not sedition against the State of Washington or the City of Seattle:
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
 
Then let me help you.
I used to be an independent 15 years ago.

I've changed radically since then. My current position is anti tech. Industrial revolution had something something something.

I have also slowly over the years became more and more of a white advocate and not by choice.

I would love the co existence and racial harmony I used to believe in but everyone else doesnt. May it be for an agenda, a vendetta, gain or whatever. Folks tend to be identitarian and tend to be hostile to anyone not of their group.

This development of america devolving along identitarian lines is a sign america is collapsing. Yugoslavia is one example I can think of.

I believe a technological collapse is in my best interest. If a sun storm were to destroy all electronics I would still (as a white person) still have enough numbers on my side to make it. Even if the percentage of the white population dips to 40 percent. That's still plenty of people to have in case of a technological collapse.

However what would serve your best interests as a black American is leave america as soon as you can.

Unlike me the black community is less then 20 percent of the population. These current riots I assure you have sowed the seeds of a white facist movement. Which if it takes power would be bad for you.

But as mentioned the left are just as racist. The Democrats see you as a defective child to be used as a pawn against daddy Republican in their fight for dominance. Once whites dip below 50 percent the marxist scum are going import hispanics by the butt load. Which means the black community going get ignored in favor of Hispanics. Why would Democrats care about a group that's not growing and less the 20 percent of the population vs a group they can import as much they need to ensure electoral victory.

The thing is Hispanics hate blacks. There have been reports of latino gangs moving into blacks areas and ethnically cleansing the hood of afros.

So if the Democrats turn america into a single party state then black america will be erased.

Finding a new home would be your best bet.
It's true in the near future they are going to outnumber blacks. In my town the make up a good chunk of the non white population and unlike blacks their gangs are more organized and efficient. So sadly there really isn't a good long term solution for black americans. That's why public figures like Tariq Nasheed starting calling latinos the new oppressors.
 
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