Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Inflatable Julay]

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1288849972851617793

Herman Cain has died a month after being hospitalized because of Covid.

Those twitter replies are disgusting.

 

[Drain Todger]

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1288849972851617793

Herman Cain has died a month after being hospitalized because of Covid.

Damn, I liked him.

COVID-19 is way, way more severe in African-Americans. Look at the Johns Hopkins map. Look at how low the mortality rate is in majority-white locations, like bumfuck Wyoming.

African-Americans have a genetic predisposition towards endothelial dysfunction. COVID-19 causes severe endotheliitis of the blood vessels of the lungs. The pre-existing vulnerability leads to higher rates of hospitalization and mortality.

https://www.medicaleconomics.com/view/coronavirus-case-numbers-in-the-united-states-july-30-update

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11955849/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1894939

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2015432

COVID-19 depletes nitric oxide in the body very rapidly.

The cure is more watermelon and chicken.

No, I'm not joking. Watermelon is high in citrulline, and chicken and turkey breast are high in cysteine and arginine. Beets, garlic, leafy greens, all very high in dietary nitrate.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/nitric-oxide-foods#section9

The human body cannot store nitric oxide. When it's produced, it disappears like 2 to 6 seconds later. Whoosh, it's gone. It's synthesized by the body right at the moment that it's used. Therefore, if you want more of it, you need the precursors.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7377740/

NO is a short-lived gaseous free radical that controls vasodilation, which is expected to reverse pulmonary hypertension in COVID-19 [12]. Recently, investigation of the therapeutic effects of inhaled NO (iNO) on COVID-19 has been proposed [12,13]. It is of interest that there were few asthma patients with severe cases of COVID-19 in China [14]. NO emission in asthmatic patients is high due to T-helper cell type 2 (Th2)-mediated airway inflammation. To assess and manage asthma, the fraction exhaled NO (FeNO) has been adopted as a non-invasive indicator of airway inflammation. In addition to vasodilation, such inhaled and exhaled NO may have substantial antiviral activity against SARS-CoV-2 infection as was suggested for SARS-CoV [12]. Although cigarette smoking has been listed as a risk factor for contracting COVID-19, only a low proportion of the smokers have suffered from SARS-CoV-2 infection in China, Europe and the U.S. The intermittent burst of high NO concentration in cigarette smoke has been proposed as a mechanism in protecting against the virus infection [15].

Cardiovascular diseases such as hypertension have been recognized as the most frequent comorbidities in patients with COVID-19. It is conceivable that lower or impaired NO metabolism is associated with the pathological severity of COVID-19. HDIVC might help to supply NO on demand through its chemical reaction with nitrite. NO is primarily synthesized by NO synthase (NOS) enzymes in humans. It is important to note that NO synthesis by NOS requires oxygen and is thereby inhibited in ARDS due to hypoxia. As the consequence, the NO oxidation products nitrite and/or nitrate in plasma are also expected to be low. Inconsistencies in the results of previous clinical trials of Vit C therapy may be due, in part, to variation of nitrite and/or nitrate levels in plasma among the patients.

In contrast with Europe and U.S., the capita death rate from COVID-19 appears, so far, low in East Asia including Japan. The Japan paradox has recently received much attention from researchers as well as from the public [16]. In terms of a biological rationale, it can be hypothesized that nitrate-rich dietary foods in those countries may supplement NO bioavailability through the NOS-independent mechanisms. In a good agreement with this prospect, Japanese diet containing abundant nitrate has been reported to improve hypertension and other vascular diseases [17]. A recent randomized clinical trial has also supported the effects of leafy green vegetables rich in nitrate on blood pressure [18]. Until specific drugs are developed for COVID-19, blood nitrate and nitrite that modulate NO bioavailability are worthy of consideration not only for clinical treatment but also for the prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

The geographic differences in COVID-19 mortality may be almost entirely down to diet. COVID-19 causes far, far less severe symptoms in someone who has the right balance of micronutrients in their body. It causes far more severe symptoms in someone who eats nothing but Kraft Mac & Cheese all day and has pre-existing chronic inflammation, high blood pressure, diabetes, oxidative stress, and so on.

You know how Sweden is getting away with herd immunity, no masks, no lockdowns, nothing? You know how Japan hasn't exploded with hospitalizations? It's the diet. Americans don't get enough dietary nitrate because we eat snack crackers and processed garbage instead of fish, leafy greens, and so on.

Assessment of dietary nitrate intake in humans: a systematic review

AbstractBackground. The nitrate content of foods and water is highly variable, which has implications for the compilation of food-composition databases and ass

academic.oup.com

We found a significant inverse association between daily nitrate intake and GDP (n = 53; β coefficient ± SE = −0.44 ± 0.12 mg/d, r = −0.46, P < 0.001) (Figure 3A). There was a similar inverse association between nitrate intake and the KOF Globalization Index (n = 53; β coefficient ± SE = 1.73 ± 0.73 mg/d, r = −0.31, P = 0.02) (Figure 3B). Daily nitrate intake was higher in low- or middle-income countries such as Mexico, China, or Thailand than in countries with a higher per capita income such as the United States or the Netherlands.

@eternal dog mongler What do you think?

 

[Homegrown Homophobia]

It's hilarious how the same people who tell you the gym is closed for your own good and that you should also "run around the block" instead ALSO will tell you out of the other side of their mouth that even going for a run is verbotten and can kill people. -

 

[Sekirodiealot]

I know that, but this clamped down social distancing is a bridge too far even for a "New Normal" and even the bigwigs have to know this.

Post-9/11, the TSA became the new normal but it was only a nuisance for people that did air travel.

But this is more or less affecting everyone in the country and is far more debilitating on a psychological and economic level, it cannot be sustained long-term without a complete and total breakdown.

This "new normal" lockdown shit is a political bargaining tool, and it will likely end by November, no matter who wins the election. Given how the MSM is, I wouldn't be surprised if a vaccine is announced and the narrative shifts yet again in the event of a Biden win.

If Trump somehow wins, then the lockdowns will loosen up slowly and mainly linger in the blue strongholds for a little longer until the economic burden becomes too much for these states

That's exactly why i find myself saying this won't last until 2022 like some people think

 

[Drain Todger]

The ideal way to survive COVID-19 is to do the following things:

• High blood pressure, obesity, type 2 diabetes? Get rid of it. Exercise and lose the pounds.
• Top off on Vitamin C and D. Get adequate sun exposure.
• Eat a balanced diet that includes the full range of micronutrients, but especially dietary nitrate.

The lockdowns could actually be having an adverse affect by reducing people's sun exposure and making them sedentary, both of which increase the severity of COVID-19.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Ohio Pharmacy Board bans use of hydroxychloroquine to treat covid

I'm starting to think they want to have a bunch of people get kidney damage from remdesivir so they can spin it as evidence of a scary new covid mutation

Amusingly, DeWine has come out against this. He only does that when he smells getting reamed in court. Also people are posting lists of everyone on the pharmacy board and it's mostly lawyers and people from the big pharmacy chains. The article they sited as support for this decision has also been withdrawn. So absolutely politics/money.

 

[Driftwood]

It's hilarious how the same people who tell you the gym is closed for your own good and that you should also "run around the block" instead ALSO will tell you out of the other side of their mouth that even going for a run is verbotten and can kill people. -

Also not everyone can or should run. For some people, swimming or water aerobics really is the best and safest form of exercise. Good luck doing that outdoors in 75% of the country most of the year. Ironic thing is that a lot of these same people would be at risk for COVID-19 and would be helped the most against it with regular exercise. The old, obese, disabled...I love how other serious medical conditions are thrown under the bus for this nothingburger of a disease.

 

[NoReturn]

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If you're in a place where masks have been made legally mandatory and you don't/can't outright disobey, my recommendation is to use a bandanna tied like an old cowboy mask. The pros:

1. Super easy to breathe in because the material is thin and it's open at the top and bottom
2. To my fellow glasses wearers: it doesn't make your glasses fog up
3. Studies have found that the bandanna is almost useless in terms of stopping respiratory jets, so it's secretly malicious compliance to the law
4. You get to look like a cool old timey bandit instead of a 2020 earloop mask wearing soy

Fuck this goblin faggot. Fuck this imminent lockdown and fuck everyone who has followed this shit.

I'm also buying skull bandanas ala siege. It will double use for the race war

Gaiters work similarly, you can use an old sand or snow-gaiter and look like you're on an epic quest across the desert.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

Random LA Update:
- We woke up to a 4.2 magnatude earthquake that knocked one picture off somebody's wall. The end is surely near.

- Death tolls continue to stagger downward, but it's a slow, drunken, jagged line and not going as fast as I'd like.

- A large LA Megachurch starts meeting indoors without masks or social distancing: http://www.bpnews.net/55162/john-ma...efy-california-bans-on-singing-indoor-worship

- I live outside of LA City, and outside of the smoke shop, I haven't seen a person breaking mask rules in months.

- Tons of stores are still closed. Probably 2/3 stores in my 'burb. I see at least one "storefront for rent" sign in almost every shopping center.

- Rent is starting to drop very slowly but the housing market is hot because everyone who'd been saving is primed to buy and their competing with each other for limited selection.

- The $600 extra on unemployment ended this week. Everyone assumes the government will re-instate it, but if they don't, a lot of people are going to move. About 10 friends-of-friends have already moved since lockdown started.

- Nurse buddy is frantically trying to stop friends from attending services at the megachurch. He (via his wife-that-I-hang-out-with) says the hospital is not as stressed as it was a couple weeks ago but they're still busy and something Newsom did has forced him to take a $1000/wk pay cut. I asked why my cousin in the midwest is safe to go to church, but we're not and wife says the nurses across the US have a private chat group and are discussing this. Their consensus is that they have identified many strains of Covid and they're different in different parts of the country. Some kill fast and some kill slow and some don't even make you sick. We've got two bad ones here - Strains number 1 and 15 or something.

- Nurse's Wife got into a fight with a friend that works at the grocery store. Grocery friend thinks the virus is fake because her coworkers aren't getting sick.

- The film industry is re-starting very very slowly. Writer Friend and Post Friends haven't stopped working (from home), Lighting Friend went back to work this week. He has to wear a mask, while lugging around heavy gear, and get tasted regularly. Set-Decorator friend goes back on payroll Monday, and has to get tested but will still be mostly working from home.

- Random Friend is going to the dentist this week. The dentist is making him pay for a Covid test before they'll work on him

- Friend in construction design just got his first project (an LA highrise) put on indefinite hold.

- I believe schools in Hotspot Counties are not being allowed to re-open. LA is always a hotspot due to size. The head of a local private school has been leading protests around town. The Orange County school board is suing the state governer.

- People without masks have been seen playing cards inside the local smoke shop. A local barbershop is also weirdly open, against direct orders, and the hair salon down the street has very suspiciously covered it's windows completely with brown paper.

- Restaurants are still outdoor dining only. Probably about half are open with this option. I'm told my favorite, family-owned Thai restaurant has gone out of business.

- None of the clothing stores I've been to will let you try clothes on. Walmart is still not taking returns on clothes I bought near the beginning of lockdown.

- Gyms are closed. My gym (family owned) is starting to ask politely for financial help to stay open.

- Social media is an absolute train wreck due to lock-down fatigue and racial issues.

- I know a tiny handful of people who have been sick, felt crappy for a few days, and then been fine. But a friend's grandma, who I met once and who seemed fairly spry, died abruptly last weekend. One other old biker dude died right at the beginning of lock-down, but he had a DNR so they didn't want to put him on a ventalator, so everybody wonders if he could have been saved. Oh, and my grandpa (89) had it and didn't even sniffle, but I recently found out that it killed 1/8 of the 200 people in his nursing home. Across town, my uncle's nursing home has had 2 cases and zero deaths, supposedly becuase their head nurse is super strict.

Life sucks. Lol. At least I still have a job and we can go to the beach without having to hide and dodge cop cars. Sporting gear is sold out and everyone's camping a lot.

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

The ideal way to survive COVID-19 is to do the following things:

• High blood pressure, obesity, type 2 diabetes? Get rid of it. Exercise and lose the pounds.
• Top off on Vitamin C and D. Get adequate sun exposure.
• Eat a balanced diet that includes the full range of micronutrients, but especially dietary nitrate.

The lockdowns could actually be having an adverse affect by reducing people's sun exposure and making them sedentary, both of which increase the severity of COVID-19.

To say nothing of the effect that the "quarantine 15" coupled with heightened levels of stress is likely having on heart disease, which is the undisputed number 1 cause of death in this country.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Amusingly, DeWine has come out against this. He only does that when he smells getting reamed in court. Also people are posting lists of everyone on the pharmacy board and it's mostly lawyers and people from the big pharmacy chains. The article they sited as support for this decision has also been withdrawn. So absolutely politics/money.

It could be interesting to know if that article in question is archived on Archive.today or the Wayback Machine.

There's one sick tweet I saw from the Hollywood asshole who's mentionned in the Butch Hartman thread.
https://twitter.com/Marmel/status/1288859837720215552

Steve Marmel on Twitter: "If Hydoclorchine worked, Herman Cain would …

archived 30 Jul 2020 15:40:01 UTC

archive.vn

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

It could be interesting to know if that article in question is archived on archive.md or the Wayback Machine.

There's one sick tweet I saw from the Hollywood asshole who's mentionned in the Butch Hartman thread.
https://twitter.com/Marmel/status/1288859837720215552

Steve Marmel on Twitter: "If Hydoclorchine worked, Herman Cain would …

archived 30 Jul 2020 15:40:01 UTC

archive.vn

Once I'm home from work I'll see if I can find the study. DeWine's twitter is mess of paid twits and angry Ohioans so it can take a bit of digging to get at the meat. Amusingly, the Pharmacy Board twitter was mostly just angry Ohioans, I guess AmplifyOhio hasn't been paid to show them support.

Makes me a bit proud of my state, I've looked at other governor's feeds and the amount of bootlicking is depressing, especially Whitmer's.

 

[Peace and Harmony]

I'm told my favorite, family-owned Thai restaurant has gone out of business.

A fairly well-known family-owned restaurant near to me announced that it was going to shutter permanently this month after 15 years of successful business. Can't tell you how many out-of-town friends I took there. It was the only piece of information in this pathetic nothingburger shitstorm that gave me any feels whatsoever.

 

[PurpleEater]

To say nothing of the effect that the "quarantine 15" coupled with heightened levels of stress is likely having on heart disease, which is the undisputed number 1 cause of death in this country.

And this is why the extended lockdowns are batshit to me. Americans are going broke, insane, and getting fat. The idea that "well it's better to be miserable than dead" doesn't make sense when the virus only kills a small percentage of people, and there are tons of other things you can get sick and lose years to by bunkering down in a stress hole (all of which, like you said, also make you more at risk for getting the virus).

Those things that can take years off your life and always have been factors in doing so (chronic stress, mental illness, obesity, diabetes, etc.) are all getting completely ignored because of the Big Bad Bug.

 

[NoReturn]

And this is why the extended lockdowns are batshit to me. Americans are going broke, insane, and getting fat. The idea that "well it's better to be miserable than dead" doesn't make sense when the virus only kills a small percentage of people, and there are tons of other things you can get sick and lose years to by bunkering down in a stress hole (all of which, like you said, also make you more at risk for getting the virus).

Those things that can take years off your life and always have been factors in doing so (chronic stress, mental illness, obesity, diabetes, etc.) are all getting completely ignored because of the Big Bad Bug.

What if it's all deliberate? Conspiracy!

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

heightened levels of stress is likely having on heart disease,

Heart Disease nothing, just the Heightened Constant Levels of Stress that people are under from all this is gonna be killing people.

I have no scientific studies to back it up, or any reason to actually think this..but I honestly think that constantly being at high levels of Stress is worse for you than almost anything else you can think of short of a straight up bullet or knife to the face.

 

[PurpleEater]

Then of course there's shit like this happening;

Small price to pay for "safety," right?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I get tested tomorrow, then again on Monday thanks to dumb bureaucracy at work.
Dumber yet both tests are PCR, so I wont be finding out if any of the 4 times I've had minor cough/sniffles/sore throat since January were the 'Rona.

Worse though if I do test positive I don't get to work for a month or so and don't get a paycheck

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Haven't been able to track down what study the Pharmacy Board used, but it doesn't matter at the moment since they've withdrawn their decision. Sounds like doctors don't like to be told by pharmacists what they can use to treat their patients. Also, the board is run by a lawyer, which is interesting as the Ohio Health Department is also currently run by a lawyer.

Edit:

This was thrown around as just an aggregate of studies of COVID treatments, probably helpful.

COVID-19 Treatment Analysis

COVID-19 Treatment - Analysis of 76 global studies showing high effectiveness for early treatment

c19study.com

 

[StarkRavingMad]

One of my friends was tested positive for COVID ...

His wife, however, was tested negative. They have not been apart at any point since March.

Both are experiencing zero symptoms.

Clown. World.