U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[MrJokerRager]

I found this at /pol. View at your own risk to you mental health.

Spoiler: NSFW

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Is that FEMEN or some clone of it? those retards have been around longer than BLM.

By the way I see it, we're the British and Antifa is the IRA - keep in mind anything we might do against Antifa will ruin our PR forever, but they can do whatever. If Trump lets the wolves out, USA will lose it's international image big time. If you think we can just slaughter our own civilians and go to war with China, keep in mind China is much more tightly organized on administrative level, holds the financial sphere hostage, has more patriotic industry, can be more pragmatic thanks to being able to memoryhole anything inconvenient and is miles ahead of USA in military intelligence, insurgency and counterinsurgency.

Not meant to be an insult against GEOTUS but the United States has already lost its international image under him and also Bush but that is for different obivous reasons.

And when you think about it, I prefer that idea of America first to this globalist international cosmopolitanism shit promoted by neoliberals and woketard progresseives. The Biden campaign despite embracing Sanders, does NOT have an anti-war stance of some kind. I havent heard shit from Biden or even 2020 Sanders about endings the war in Iraq or pulling out of Syria.

Nobody will stop doing business with the United States just because ANTIFA got 1488ed. By that logic, Lincoln should have just cucked to the South or Grant should have cucked to the first KKK. There were lynchings of niggers going on in the 1950s and 1960s and African nations still did business with Uncle Sam.

And those European cucks can go fuck themselves and I hope Uncle Vlady rapes them hard.

 

[DumbDude42]

IRA was very cautious about revenge killings, because Brits would publish the tortured and murdered covert agents in every newspaper to ruin their PR. While guys like the Shankill Butchers were hacking Catholics IRA knew they couldn't do much about it, so they focused on destroying rich property in England, informing everyone about the explosion in advance so there would be no casualties for the media. England's government grew tired of repairing all that damage and left them mostly alone.

Michael Collins was the second wave of Irish resistance. The first was a bunch of romantics who got slaughtered by British for annexing some pub and talking about Irish independence. They got stupidly killed but legends grew about them and gave spirit to IRA, a cause to struggle for. Idiots of Antifa now are the first wave - Feds know they can't create martyrs and cause themselves problems 30 years later so don't count on them fighting in the open any time soon. Killing rioters only will weed out the weak and stupid and put the smart ones who know how to keep low profile in charge.

By the way I see it, we're the British and Antifa is the IRA - keep in mind anything we might do against Antifa will ruin our PR forever, but they can do whatever. If Trump lets the wolves out, USA will lose it's international image big time. If you think we can just slaughter our own civilians and go to war with China, keep in mind China is much more tightly organized on administrative level, holds the financial sphere hostage, has more patriotic industry, can be more pragmatic thanks to being able to memoryhole anything inconvenient and is miles ahead of USA in military intelligence, insurgency and counterinsurgency.

dumb approach
your PR is and will continue to be ruined regardless of what you do, because the media itself is firmly owned and controlled by the enemy
>let shit burn = "senile orange loser totally impotent, can't keep anything in order"
>send feds to protect shit = "vile orange führer sends in gestapo thugs to terrorize, disappear peaceful civilians"
>send army to crack down on shit = "crazy orange dictator carries out military coup against america, shits on constitution"
you ALWAYS lose the PR war in a world like this unless you somehow manage to take control of the media, which the US republicans aren't even trying to do

 

[Gnostic American]

Let me add this.

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1289283797637373952

 

[MrJokerRager]

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What a meaningless statement, the residents are all criminals. The chief is just telling them to have some honor code for thieves.

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

This perspective is always amazing to me. Do you really think women got the short end of the stick for most of history? Have you ever heard of Coal Mining, War, or dying at sea, to name a few brutal ways that men were forced to live and die? Oh you had to stay at home and raise kids and do laundry by hand, god damn what hardship. At least back then women had the option to be mothers and home makers because her husband could make enough to support them both. Now women don't even have that choice. Is that better?

Men died in coal mines, in war, on the sea. Women died in 4th childbirth at 20yo, in war, from rape health complications. Life was bad for both genders.
Nobody gave much shit about kids back then, both parents made sure the kid didn't kill itself, obeyed them and started an apprenticeship at 8 to learn a trade by 16 and stop being a food sink. Kids raised themselves on the street for the most part.
Men did work to support the family from dusk till dawn. Women prepared food, sold husband's work, overseed the house servants, maintained the house and weaved from dusk till dawn. I'm not sure what's worse - cutting wood for 12h/day or weaving for 12h/day. Both are incredibly mind-numbing jobs. And the real fun starts when your husband is a worthless alcoholic (who were everywhere because life was Hell) and you're wondering where your next meal and stress-relief session will come from.
Why do people assume women had less work in times where threat of starvation was commonplace?

I found this at /pol. View at your own risk to you mental health.

Spoiler: NSFW

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Hadooouken!

 

[wopirish]

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Source? because I wouldn't doubt if they actually did that

 

[JohnnyG]

A simple summary of the video was that the difference between nazi and communist camps of pows is that Nazis would exterminate their enemies whereas communists would order them to salute Stalin's portrait on his birthday and make them feel like shit by admitting their crimes to the cause.

Makes perfect sense. Evil nahtzees want physical removal of illegals and terrists. Tolerant troons want everyone who's ever laughed at them forced to wear 17 pieces of rainbow flair, start every corporate meeting pledging allegiance to the multicult, and forever apologizing for their whiteness.

I believe the thought behind eliminating resource officers is the perception that black students have disproportionately more encounters with them than those students of other races.

And the real consequences won't be a slight uptick in the rare school shooting, it'll be removing the deterrent to impulsive 10-on-1 attacks of teachers and other students, every single day in every urban district. Maybe after a few obese unionistas get curb stomped they'll realize what they asked for?

 

[It's HK-47]

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That's a bit hyperbolic considering that their actual statement was just generic, "Here's how not to die over a cell phone" advice. I have no idea what sort of source that "Alpha News" is supposed to be, but I'm willing to bet that it's not particularly credible if that's the sort of extreme that they'll leap to with this statement. I mean, it is kind of sissy advice for sissies, but that sort of advice has been around for a Hell of a lot longer than these riots.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Source? because I wouldn't doubt if they actually did that

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/police-chief-responds-after-robbery-spike-in-south-southwest-minneapolis

https://kstp.com/minnesota-news/minneapolis-police-warn-of-increase-in-carjacking-robberies-/5809314/

 

[Overly Serious]

you ALWAYS lose the PR war in a world like this unless you somehow manage to take control of the media, which the US republicans aren't even trying to do

That's why the best weapons right now are videos like that "Peaceful Protests" one where it's just endless talking heads saying it overlaid on riots, deaths and looting. It highlights the disparity between what the MSM describe and the reality.

Well, the other best weapon is arresting Antifa organizers and charging them, but of the two that's what we can do for the most part. Trump knew exactly what he was doing when he went straight for the MSM with "fake news". Dude knew exactly where to start punching.

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

dumb approach
your PR is and will continue to be ruined regardless of what you do, because the media itself is firmly owned and controlled by the enemy
>let shit burn = "senile orange loser totally impotent, can't keep anything in order"
>send feds to protect shit = "vile orange führer sends in gestapo thugs to terrorize, disappear peaceful civilians"
>send army to crack down on shit = "crazy orange dictator carries out military coup against america, shits on constitution"
you ALWAYS lose the PR war in a world like this unless you somehow manage to take control of the media, which the US republicans aren't even trying to do

Victory will be handled not to those who can inflict the most, but those that can endure the most.
Normies are slowly catching up what's really going on here. Taking action now will ruin it and turn the focus away.
Keep in mind, we're ~3 month before elections. The public oppinion keeps in memory events for about 3 months. If Trumps plays rough now, people will remember when voting.
This enemy you speak of can only be outplayed in his own game, right now he's putting out his chin and taunting you to punch him. By opening fire you're both digging your own grave and revitalizing the enemy.

 

[Overly Serious]

I found this at /pol. View at your own risk to you mental health.

Spoiler: NSFW

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Context? Source? Audio? Curious to know what country this is in.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

That explains the Haavara Agreement.

What did you think I was saying? Nearly all countries in the world use a non-violent solution before a violent one. Of course there are exceptions, but the Haavara agreement doesn't contradict what I'm saying

 

[Evo]

This is going back some but seen this and going to reply.



I don't know what you think I want done or where it differs from you. Someone riots, I want them arrested and charged. Someone obstructs a highway like an idiot, arrest and charge. Someone tries to blind people with a green laser? Arrest and charge and put them in prison. And you keep at it, like they seem to be doing in Austin where they're pulling the fangs of Antifa with nightly arrests. What I disagreed with was when DumbDude started going on about "genocide". And you know what? I still maintain that's a stupid thing to say. Especially as protestors vs. non-protestors are not divided by race but by indoctrinationideology.

In my opinion, the key thing here is to accelerate the loosening the grip of the MSM on people's minds. Faith in the MSM is falling fast but nowhere near fast enough. In the meantime you continue rigorously arresting and charging the rioters for criminal acts but not for what they say. That's not a power the state should have. I live in the UK - they arrested something like 3,000 people here last year for things said online. I'd love to have the USA's Free Speech protections then I could call a man in a dress a man online without getting a visit from the local police force.

Fair, I simply see you as painfully optimistic and naive when it comes to the larger structure of these sociological issues - a lot of the response is moderate reasoning with this being episodic and 'regular people will get sick of it and respond!' and while this is true, it doesn't negate the fact this is caused by a cultural dichotomy that's existed in the U.S. for decades and isn't going anywhere (something I'll address in a moment.)

Secondly, the MSM may support the radicals in the street but those radicals in the street have never supported the MSM or given a fuck about it while the bulk of the moderate left continue to be swayed entirely by mainstream media - YouTube videos of mainstream media reports that indicate high dislike ratios don't discount that fact at all; the truth is the moderate left isn't moving, it isn't being swayed towards the right, it isn't being swayed against these riots, it's being swayed to support them time and time again and you've now got an entire population of people in the U.S. fully and utterly ideologically convinced they live in a fascist police state and that is not the sort of grand-standing delusion easily quelled - the cultural rift has brought the 'cat out of the bag', so to speak, and there's no just shoving it back into the fucking bag and then walking away until it claws it's way back out of the bag and here we are all over again; the dissonant divide you mention isn't enough to sway the left from it's platform of "reason" because they've become religiously convinced of that sense of "reason" and at this point, radicalization is a freefall spiral that will continue for the left, riots or not, and while many, seemingly like you, would rather look at this in some kneejerk short-term light, I'd rather look at things in the long-term and acknowledge this problem isn't going anywhere and solving it the way we did ten different fucking times before isn't going to create a result where they don't come back for the 11th fucking time.

Yeah, I know some Sikhs that run the off-licenses around those areas where the BLM twats are mouthing off. They have to have 4-5 of them in the shop at any one time so they don't get the 'blacks' coming in and raiding them. They also carry 'big sticks' under the counter and I think the 'blacks' have pretty much learned to leave them alone now. It certainly deters the odd opportunistic crack-head - they'll just go for some little old lady walking home and snatch her bag.

One young 19 yr old nigger did it to a 85yr old woman - beat her fucking black and blue he did - he could have just snatched her bag - but he was a 'granny-basher'. They caught him but he didn't get done for a 'hate crime' which it was. No need to beat the snot out of a nearly 90yr old woman when you are a fit young teenager. Scum.

You would think there would be more racists, but there aren't really that many. I've known a few. One of the most racist bastards I ever met was 6'6" all tatted up and bolts for piercings. He was a genuine good old fashioned Skinhead type. Probably the most racist person I've ever known. Still.. one night he took me 'round to someone's house when they were having a bit of a party, and he introduces me to his old 'mate' - a fucking black guy with a big grin on his face! The Skinhead says to me "This one's alright". LOL. Even racist Skinheads can't be totally racist all the time.

And then there was his 'deep love and respect' for the local Sikh shop-keeper in our community. A very quiet and humble guy that would even let you have booze on tick if he knew you. Apparently, one night, some blacks had tried to rip the Offy off when he was around, and he was only too happy to kick the shit out of the blacks on behalf of Mr. Singh. Fucking LOL again.

Funny ol' world.

It's almost as if, if you are't a complete cunt to people and give respect, you get a bit of respect back in turn.

There are good blacks out there. I refuse to become 'racist' (wtf that means these days).

Oh, just remembered these vids -

This guy is fucking funny:

“I’m not remotely worried about being killed by the police, you know why? Because I’m not a fucking criminal!"

https://twitter.com/LabourAreToast/status/1287290276864831490

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This is another classic -

Pull your pants up!

https://twitter.com/LabourAreToast/status/1276467070717374465

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They aren't scared of white people, they are afraid of young black boys on the street.

A whole lot of our problems are self-inflicted.




I've known some really great black people. Successful and talented, warm and friendly. They all say the same thing: Black people need to get their own house in order and clean up their own backyard before they even begin to criticise any other race.

One beautiful lady ran a cafe/bar and she would make me some reallly great food and we would sit and chat on the quiet times in the day. I found it nice and refreshing to talk with a black without a chip on their shoulder, and she found it refreshing to talk to someone that wasn't patronising her, so we had some real talk. She would tell me, that yeah, even though racism from whites does exist to an extent, it didn't really bother her. It was the shit she got from other black people, like those crack-heads trying to come in and rob her till when she was in there by herself, like her ex 'friends' who didn't want to speak to her anymore because she had gone up in the world, just the general embarassment of how a lot of blacks act in general - that was what bothered her. She worked hard and made a real go of that place in a tough part of town. I doubt she's still there. Some one will have come along and bullied her - she was vulnerable.

This is why blacks can't have nice things. And if blacks can't have nice things, then no one else is going to have them either.

That's their MO and it's pretty obvious to anyone but the most deluded/mentally ill commie by this point. A lot of people of all races are really wise to this shit now and have really had enough of their crap.

What is happening now is a good thing. The streets needed cleaning...

You know, what's interesting is the black divide you pointed out has existed for decades - it's like you're parroting early 2000's black Conservative logic here as if it has any relevance to the situation or to black culture, lol, considering despite the fact that this divide has existed, ghetto culture has become more and more prominent in the black community and larger and larger, not smaller and smaller, my guy, lol - if this is the case and niggerdom isn't the rule, then whence cometh normality and whence cometh a detraction away from all the retardism? Niggerdom is the rule and these good black men are the exception but it doesn't make the rule any less of a rule - we're living in a time where 'ghetto culture' has become more prominent among blacks than anything else, and taking a handful of black conservatives and elevating them like they somehow destroy and dissolve that rule in it's entirety is frightfully naive, especially when that reasoning is placed in-street in front of a bunch of angry white people who'd use the same reasoning I am now, and the only response would be 'yeah, but there's good black people!' - sure, that doesn't discount the millions of niggers though, does it?

At what point does niggerdom stop being normal to niggers? As far as I can see, ghetto culture and niggerdom have become more common, more acceptable, more normal, not less - an exception to the rule doesn't make the rule any less of a rule.

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

Not meant to be an insult against GEOTUS but the United States has already lost its international image under him and also Bush but that is for different obivous reasons.

And when you think about it, I prefer that idea of America first to this globalist international cosmopolitanism shit promoted by neoliberals and woketard progresseives. The Biden campaign despite embracing Sanders, does NOT have an anti-war stance of some kind. I havent heard shit from Biden or even 2020 Sanders about endings the war in Iraq or pulling out of Syria.

Nobody will stop doing business with the United States just because ANTIFA got 1488ed. By that logic, Lincoln should have just cucked to the South or Grant should have cucked to the first KKK. There were lynchings of niggers going on in the 1950s and 1960s and African nations still did business with Uncle Sam.

And those European cucks can go fuck themselves and I hope Uncle Vlady rapes them hard.

Trump is acting the cool-headed guy in a madhouse routine. That's the only chance he has at reelection and if he doesn't get a second term, he's screwed. He will live in comfort but have more pains in the ass.

Lol Africans begged the Union to not abolish slavery because that was their main income. Anyway it's not about cucking, it's about not acting like a retard picking a fist fight with a tiger when he can bide his time until he has a rifle.

Vlady is going to be raped by you-know-who. How long do you think will Russia own Siberia?

 

[frozenrunner]

Well, the other best weapon is arresting Antifa organizers and charging them, but of the two that's what we can do for the most part. Trump knew exactly what he was doing when he went straight for the MSM with "fake news". Dude knew exactly where to start punching.

A reminder that "fake news" was a creation of the MSM to explain why people didn't listen to "real news" in the run-up to the 2016 election. Trump turned it back on them weeks later, and they now lie and say he made it up.

 

[FatalTater]

The Minneapolis police telling citizens to obey the criminals and prepare to be robbed is because the police are no longer even going to pretend to do their jobs. No one is safe and they need to know it.
Citizens actually have a choice. They can roll over and play dead when the zombies come, OR load the gun, sharpen the knife, keep the bat at the ready, and fight back. Whoever is in charge of Minneapolis and cities like it aren't going to tell people to do that though.

 

[Overly Serious]

Fair, I simply see you as painfully optimistic and naive when it comes to the larger structure of these sociological issues - a lot of the response is moderate reasoning with this being episodic and 'regular people will get sick of it and respond!' and while this is true, it doesn't negate the fact this is caused by a cultural dichotomy that's existed in the U.S. for decades and isn't going anywhere (something I'll address in a moment.)

Secondly, the MSM may support the radicals in the street but those radicals in the street have never supported the MSM or given a fuck about it while the bulk of the moderate left continue to be swayed entirely by mainstream media - YouTube videos of mainstream media reports that indicate high dislike ratios don't discount that fact at all; the truth is the moderate left isn't moving, it isn't being swayed towards the right, it isn't being swayed against these riots, it's being swayed to support them time and time again and you've now got an entire population of people in the U.S. fully and utterly ideologically convinced they live in a fascist police state and that is not the sort of grand-standing delusion easily quelled - the cultural rift has brought the 'cat out of the bag', so to speak, and there's no just shoving it back into the fucking bag and then walking away until it claws it's way back out of the bag and here we are all over again; the dissonant divide you mention isn't enough to sway the left from it's platform of "reason" because they've become religiously convinced of that sense of "reason" and at this point, radicalization is a freefall spiral that will continue for the left, riots or not, and while many, seemingly like you, would rather look at this in some kneejerk short-term light, I'd rather look at things in the long-term and acknowledge this problem isn't going anywhere and solving it the way we did ten different fucking times before isn't going to create a result where they don't come back for the 11th fucking time.

I don't want to derail as skimming the thread I get the sense the whole naive Yoda vs. based Anakin debate took place while I was offline last week and I missed it. But I am curious where we disagree in so far as actual material response we advocate. I want every person going beyond peaceable assembly arrested and charged. I'm sure you do as well. If there's divergence then it must be somewhere beyond that point. People rarely change their minds, I agree. Which is why when I'm either in an argument online or as in this case advocating particular responses by the government and police, I'm not trying to change my opponent's mind (unless I get the sense they're the rare sort who is after truth rather than the status hit of winning an argument); instead I'm focused on winning over the audience. Right now that's the American people and it's especially difficult when the media has the ear of so many of them.

You saw the chart someone posted earlier showing how women were far more likely to support the Bleemers (how I pronounce BLM'ers) than men? That's because women prioritize social cohesion / harmony much higher than men on average. When there's conflict they're more often about ending it than settling it. They, and most people, will go with whoever seems most likely to restore status quo. Not whoever is 'right'. If you want an authoritarian response to not be counter-productive, you have to make people believe that it's the quickest way to social cohesion. And right now there isn't the PR on your side to do that.

You know how dangerous communism is. You know how dangerous Marxist professors stamping out footsoldiers are. Most people don't. Most of those foot soldiers will learn as they get older and have to work for a living. The quickest cure for Marxism is a tax deduction and seeing it go to pay for people who don't work. I don't know what sort of action you are talking about that goes beyond arresting and charging people for their crimes. The person I was replying to was calling for "genocide". You are way smarter than that. If you have suggestions for what else can be done or how something can be done without worse consequences, I'm all ears.

EDIT: Re-reading your post, I think it's less about what can be done and more that people like me should stop sabotaging the natural response of other people to these destructive elements by trying to mitigate, mediate, excuse and generally hinder that reaction. Fair to say?

A reminder that "fake news" was a creation of the MSM to explain why people didn't listen to "real news" in the run-up to the 2016 election. Trump turned it back on them weeks later, and they now lie and say he made it up.

That's not a reminder - I actually didn't know. Thanks.

 

[DumbDude42]

This enemy you speak of can only be outplayed in his own game

no, this is wrong.
you can't play the optics game against an opponent who literally owns the board and can change the rules at will. there is no winning here, only various shades of losing.

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

Why do you think Feds are partyvanning rioters? Antifa rhymes with astroturfing and they're gathering info and evidence. What do you think would happen if they went open? Whoever manipulates the events burns all evidence and hides. Trump becomes the Cheeto Hitler 2.0 Satan and opinions the left doesn't like are now Trump's oppinions and verboten. If you're saying Trump should officialy declare Antifa terrorists and put the Army into action, that's extremely short-sighted.