Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

Zeke Von Genbu said:
I almost went full autistic with another essay, but fuck it I know you're not going to properly read everything anyway. So some questions and a general statement.

Questions:

1: How do women function as a singular person in this society of yours? You've basically backed women into a corner where they stay at home until they get a man, they're completely dependent on that man at all times and thus have incentive to never leave them no matter what unless their literal life is in danger, and any single women who live alone are now forced to find partners immediately so they aren't homeless or move back in with their parents if that is even possible.

2: Do you think creating a shitty household for a child is better then not having one at all simply because it "well they're at least populating society"? Some people just make shitty parents, especially if they themselves had shitty parents.

Lastly I don't know about you, but if I had the typical stay at home wife from decades ago that you seem to want I'd be bored to fucking tears as I am today. My girlfriend and I have different skill sets, we studied different fields and thus we bring different perspectives to conversations about our respective fields. If I was the only one with an educated skill set I'd be fucking bored because she likely wouldn't be educated enough to fully comprehend what I'm saying and even if she did she wouldn't really go anywhere with it. I might as well be talking to myself because your supposed ideal woman just seems to go "Yes dear, lemme go finish dinner" to situations like these which is just a fucking bore.

This isn't a "I respect wamen" post this is a "Please don't fucking force me to have a boring woman for several decades of my life" post. Just because you want a submissive wifey doesn't mean everyone else does, some people just want to actually be challenged by their partners.
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Something else to add is, what if the sexes are not proportionate? Take China as an example, where men outnumber women. Are these men or women supposed to twiddle their thumbs until it is 50\50?
 
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Stardust said:
Something else to add is, what if the sexes are not proportionate? Take China as an example, where men outnumber women. Are these men or women supposed to twiddle their thumbs until it is 50\50?
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Aren't they stealing women from Vietnam. Other nations will have their own cultures, w.e. But I'm sick and tired of gender fluidity (treat men and women equal, the same), time to repeal all this feminist garbage.

Just A Butt said:
Are you a happy man, Boxcar?
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No. And neither are you.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
1. Yes. Women aren't supposed to ever be independent and nor should they. Female independence drives women insane, they start chanting "Refugees Welcome" or 'Black Lives Matter! Say their names." They can be easily emotionally manipulated into supporting policies that rape and kill them. To be honest neither should men be independent from women, they tend to get very toxic (like many of the posters here). Humans are psychology designed to function in pairs, not independently.

2. No.

3. Female education is a joke. Women are statistically unlikely to make major scientific breakthroughs and unlikely to become C-suite execs. Female education in general is overall a net NEGATIVE to society and strapping them with 1000s in student loan debt for jobs that they won't makes the situation even worse.. Your argument is "well i'm bored so I should be able to do whatever I want." Pure selfishness. You don't care about how these policies effect society as a whole and people like you are part of the reason why the west is collapsing. Not the mention most people get bored of their job after 1-2 years anyways.
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1. What you see on social media isn't representative of how anyone operates, and women are no more a behavioural monolith, than men are.

2. Wat?

3. Lack of women as CEO correlates to lower overall diagnoses of psychopathy in women, not to education.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
Aren't they stealing women from Vietnam. Other nations will have their own cultures, w.e. But I'm sick and tired of gender fluidity (treat men and women equal, the same), time to repeal all this feminist garbage.


No. And neither are you.
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On the contrary, I’m quite content with my trad-wife in her 30s that I didn’t have to rape to get her to like me.
 
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Gunt.Inc said:
That is not what that means.

Also answer my question what is your diet?( paint chips and dick don't count)
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gender fluidity is caused by denying 2 gender norms. denying treating men as men and women as women because that's sexist. They just created a word to explain this concept that has been normalized for decades.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
Doubt it. You seem mal-adjusted and you're posting on this forum so those are both strikes against you.
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Hold on, cock-holster, what? YOU, of all people, have the sheer temerity to call someone "maladjusted"? My fucking sides, nigger, my sides. Your inadvertent comedy is light years ahead of your debating skills; you should submit your "manifesto" (what's the publishing version of vaporware, anyone?) to some comedy shows, maybe get yourself a gig as a staff writer.
You know, if it wasn't for the rampant racism, misogyny, pedophilia and utter stupidity, you'd be a fucking gem, son.x
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
1. Yes. Women aren't supposed to ever be independent and nor should they. Female independence drives women insane, they start chanting "Refugees Welcome" or 'Black Lives Matter! Say their names." They can be easily emotionally manipulated into supporting policies that rape and kill them. To be honest neither should men be independent from women, they tend to get very toxic (like many of the posters here). Humans are psychology designed to function in pairs, not independently.

2. No.

3. Female education is a joke. Women are statistically unlikely to make major scientific breakthroughs and unlikely to become C-suite execs. Female education in general is overall a net NEGATIVE to society and strapping them with 1000s in student loan debt for jobs that they won't makes the situation even worse.. Your argument is "well i'm bored so I should be able to do whatever I want." Pure selfishness. You don't care about how these policies effect society as a whole and people like you are part of the reason why the west is collapsing. Not the mention most people get bored of their job after 1-2 years anyways.
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1: So you're just going to try to fast track women to relationships full speed 200 mph and possibly create some very forced relationships just so people can move out of their parents house? What if your parents just straight don't want you after 18 unless you go to college? Just somehow hit up some random guy and hope you're compatible? You've effectively created a really big question mark. Also you didn't explain what a woman can do if she actually ends up in a shit relationship. What is her exit strategy? You're just assuming as soon as she marries someone it'll automatically work. You refuse to account for the likelihood of failure because you seem to think all women will just submit to men as soon as your policies go live and men will never ever abuse that position of power.

2: Then what should these hypothetical households do? Just never vote and be punished because they have the foresight to realize they'd likely raise a child like shit? I'd reward that to be honest with you.

3: Almost no one becomes those things you mention due to the scarcity of those positions to begin with, that doesn't mean people never make a decent living for themselves. In fact on the corporate side the only way you become one of those execs is typically you can groomed into it. The boss has to basically like you and believe you can make it as their successor. I've met plenty of women in my field who aren't turbo feminists that scream "muh patriarchy" all the time, they're just normal people trying to become accountants or work for the IRS or own their own tax practice. I had one professor who was an old hardass bitch with a good sense of humor who worked for the IRS and she was at least 60 years old and she made a fine life for herself while she worked for the IRS. I had another who became manager at a major CPA firm before she eventually left to teach because CPA firms are hell on earth to work for.

Also don't act like your some selfless saint with your position and suggestions for policies regarding women's rights, you're an incel who lives at home and you haven't had a girlfriend in years from what I remember you telling us. You really expect me to believe your policies do not serve your interests and can not improve your livelihood in anyway? Don't bullshit yourself.
 
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Troon Draugur said:
Hold on, cock-holster, what? YOU, of all people, have the sheer temerity to call someone "maladjusted"? My fucking sides, nigger, my sides. Your inadvertent comedy is light years ahead of your debating skills; you should submit your "manifesto" (what's the publishing version of vaporware, anyone?) to some comedy shows, maybe get yourself a gig as a staff writer.
You know, if it wasn't for the rampant racism, misogyny, pedophilia and utter stupidity, you'd be a fucking gem, son.x
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I was the class clown back in high school. I would always say the dumbest things if it made people laugh. There is a fine line between laughing at someone and laughing with someone and I think you guys definitely laugh with me, even if you disagree.

Racism = nationalism. Same idea from differrent perspective. Conspiracy theory to force open borders and get you to genocide your race or ethnic group. Imagine still believing racism in 2020.

Misogyny = hating women. I don't hate women. I think the word you want is sexist and I would say that sexism = 2 gender norms and I want a society with sexual dimorphism, not gender fluidity.

Pedophilia = pre-puberty, under the age of 10. I've never supported pedophilia and jailbait aka ephebophilia is not pedophilia.

There is a fine line between genius and insane and you're the stupid one so you cannot see my genius. Your power level is too low so you cannot sense my high power level. That's why you also got brainwashed into support garbage like anti sexism (gender fluidity) and anti racism (open borders). Sorry m8 but your not on my power level. Have you tried training in the hyperbolic time chamber? That might help you.

Zeke Von Genbu said:
1: So you're just going to try to fast track women to relationships full speed 200 mph and possibly create some very forced relationships just so people can move out of their parents house? What if your parents just straight don't want you after 18 unless you go to college? Just somehow hit up some random guy and hope you're compatible? You've effectively created a really big question mark. Also you didn't explain what a woman can do if she actually ends up in a shit relationship. What is her exit strategy? You're just assuming as soon as she marries someone it'll automatically work. You refuse to account for the likelihood of failure because you seem to think all women will just submit to men as soon as your policies go live and men will never ever abuse that position of power.

2: Then what should these hypothetical households do? Just never vote and be punished because they have the foresight to realize they'd likely raise a child like shit? I'd reward that to be honest with you.

3: Almost no one becomes those things you mention due to the scarcity of those positions to begin with, that doesn't mean people never make a decent living for themselves. In fact on the corporate side the only way you become one of those execs is typically you can groomed into it. The boss has to basically like you and believe you can make it as their successor. I've met plenty of women in my field who aren't turbo feminists that scream "muh patriarchy" all the time, they're just normal people trying to become accountants or work for the IRS or own their own tax practice. I had one professor who was an old hardass bitch with a good sense of humor who worked for the IRS and she was at least 60 years old and she made a fine life for herself while she worked for the IRS. I had another who became manager at a major CPA firm before she eventually left to teach because CPA firms are hell on earth to work for.

Also don't act like your some selfless saint with your position and suggestions for policies regarding women's rights, you're an incel who lives at home and you haven't had a girlfriend in years from what I remember you telling us. You really expect me to believe your policies do not serve your interests and can not improve your livelihood in anyway? Don't bullshit yourself.
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This is dumb. Do you want a society with 2 genders or not? I do and I accept the trade-offs in that system. Goal of society is to be sustainable intergenerationally not make individuals happy at the expense of the group and future generations. Also women's right is non-sense, you're not supporting women's rights, you're supporting trans' rights and transitioning women into men by treating them equal, the same as women.
 
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Pope Fucker said:
@BoxerShorts47

Let's say your trophy wife gives birth to twins, a boy and girl. How would you educate them and what do you expect them to achieve in life?
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raise son to be a good father
raise daughter to be a good mother
aka 2 gender norms, fill in the blanks.
 
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