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I've never tried to talk like that anyway.
 
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Oscar Wildean said:
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I've never tried to talk like that anyway.
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AAVE is English. It's bad enough when losers try to claim that certain languages are only allowed to be used by certain people, but this wokescold doesn't even have that much. Sorry, pal, languages are going to continue to evolve and dialects are going to continue to intermingle.
 
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The "woke" teenagers have taken over Avatar since it released on Netflix, and tumblr and twitter have been full of wild posts like this.
I really wonder what happened with comprehension skills and ability to simply enjoy tv shows between the generations. Even the early 2010s millennial sjw crowd still loved Avatar.
 
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Nauseated Courgi said:
Despite the fact that Iroh has shown remorse in his past actions and changed drastically from the person he once was?

Yep, that's about what I'd expect the Tumblr/Twitter user morally.
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The concept that someone can change is not one generally embraced... unless that someone fits with their current sociopolitical/entertainment desires.

If Iroh had trooned out after the war I suppose he'd be forgiven.
 
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I swear the worst thing Tumblrinas/SJWs have ever contributed to discussions of the complete abuse and watering down of words for the sake of cheap internet takes.

A war criminal isn’t just anyone who participated in a war, even if the general consensus is that the war is unjust. A war criminal is someone who violates the rules of engagement for combat that are agreed upon by both parties - and obviously those rules changed depending on the era - and as far as we were shown Iroh committed no such acts that a viewing audience would consider to be a violation. So unless there’s something I missed and Iroh was kidnapping and raping civilian women or engaging in chemical warfare, he wasn’t any more of a war criminal than other one of the adults engaging in the war; with exception of the obvious villains like Sozin, Azulon, and that one Earth general who buried Katara alive to try and make Aang go super sayin.
 
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A war criminal isn’t just anyone who participated in a war, even if the general consensus is that the war is unjust. A war criminal is someone who violates the rules of engagement for combat that are agreed upon by both parties - and obviously those rules changed depending on the era - and as far as we were shown Iroh committed no such acts that a viewing audience would consider to be a violation. So unless there’s something I missed and Iroh was kidnapping and raping civilian women or engaging in chemical warfare, he wasn’t any more of a war criminal than other one of the adults engaging in the war; with exception of the obvious villains like Sozin, Azulon, and that one Earth general who buried Katara alive to try and make Aang go super sayin.
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"War criminal" is, as far as I'm aware, a relatively recent concept, and almost certainly something that the setting of the first series of Avatar wouldn't have had. There weren't any "rules of engagement", you were basically free to do as you liked. Especially Asian civilizations... they may have had ideas of "good conduct" and your lord might get on you if you made him look bad but there was no concept of a 'war criminal' because for one thing there was generally nothing like an international body or a treaty that would govern such a thing. Who exactly would try Iroh for his "war crimes"? The Earth Kingdom? Seems a little biased.

Back in the day if you didn't want your people murdered and raped, you tried to strike a really good surrender deal with the opposing force and then hoped they stuck to it and could actually restrain their men. And even if they didn't feel like it, oh well, that guy's got a reputation for reneging but if you want justice you better look in the dictionary between "jackass" and "Kavorkian" because ain't no international court to scold the Huns.
 
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"War criminal" is, as far as I'm aware, a relatively recent concept, and almost certainly something that the setting of the first series of Avatar wouldn't have had. There weren't any "rules of engagement", you were basically free to do as you liked. Especially Asian civilizations... they may have had ideas of "good conduct" and your lord might get on you if you made him look bad but there was no concept of a 'war criminal' because for one thing there was generally nothing like an international body or a treaty that would govern such a thing. Who exactly would try Iroh for his "war crimes"? The Earth Kingdom? Seems a little biased.

Back in the day if you didn't want your people murdered and raped, you tried to strike a really good surrender deal with the opposing force and then hoped they stuck to it and could actually restrain their men. And even if they didn't feel like it, oh well, that guy's got a reputation for reneging but if you want justice you better look in the dictionary between "jackass" and "Kavorkian" because ain't no international court to scold the Huns.
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Pretty much.

I was mostly talking about how even factoring in that this was a series written for a modern audience that would have a familiarity with the concept of a war criminal, even if the concept possibly doesn’t exist within the setting itself, Iroh still doesn’t fit the bill for committing any war crimes since there’s no evidence that he did anything that wasn’t just run of the mill military behavior during his career as a general. Hell, there’s even a few scenes sprinkled throughout the show that suggest despite being considered an enemy some of the other nations’ forces respected him as a general and Iroh himself points out that putting him on trial for Ba Sing Se is kinda pointless since he conceded his defeat anyways, which shows he’s not meant to be placed in the same category as more explicit villains like Sozin or Azulon.

Edit: upon quick preliminary research, while the term war crime/criminal is relatively new (from about 1460 AD), rules of engagement and conduct for war have been documented as far back as Ancient Egypt and China, and a lot of it is basic shit like "don‘t go out of your way to harm the civilians" and "don't kill or torture the already wounded." So even for the eras their series is based off there’s nothing to suggest Iroh is guilty of any violations of the time period’s code of conduct.
 
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