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Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
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Yeah, SW became a merchandising cash cow in the 80s. That's kind of common knowledge.
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I do agree a bit. I was fine when Ashoka appeared in Rebels. I remmber thinking that season 2 would conclude her story, that's what the teasers kept implying.
So i was shocked that Filoni wasn't done yet with her. So I was like ok, she lived past the OT. But when I heard that Filoni say that Ashoka wasn't dead in episode 9, I was like dude it's ok if she's dead at that point. You still have more stories for her in the time between Clone Wars and Rebels, as well as after Return of the Jedi. When does her character arc end? I mean Ashoka's my favorite Star Wars character, but I'm fine if she dies. I mean Star Wars rebels season 2 would have been a great heroic sacrifice ending.
I'm just like dude you want Ashoka to outlive Luke, Leia and Han. What's next she's going to outlive Rey, Finn and Poe.
Also I found it weird that in New Canon they said that no skilled force users are alive after Return of the Jedi, except Luke. Meaning that no writers can introduce new dark side force user or light side users. That's one thing I miss from old Canon when we got to see surviving Jedi from the purge after the fall of the Empire along with the different dark siders.
So when I saw Ashoka was still alive after Return of the Jedi. I was like that seems unfair way does Filoni's character survive up to that point, but no other force user can? I do agree with people on this thread, what dirt does Filoni have on Lucasfilms (by the way i only read a few pages on this thread couldn't read all of it, it was giving me a headache) to get away with this.
I do wonder could him not letting her go, be him afraid that if he makes a new character it won't be as popular as Ashoka.
Also I don't what Ashoka to appear in Mandalorian. The galaxy is big in Star Wars, not everyone needs to know one and another. And The Mandalorian works well, with the main characters not interacting with existing characters.
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As I've stated numerous times, you also deal with the problem of Ahsoka being a live, willing Jedi during the OT...which means she could've lended a lot of help to the main characters---Luke especially, whose training and mastery of the Force will determine whether or not the Sith are defeated.
Having Ahsoka alive but seemingly absent when she's needed most makes her incompetent at best, and a coward at worst. Which is only a disservice to her character and the fans who like her.
Having Ahsoka alive but seemingly absent when she's needed most makes her incompetent at best, and a coward at worst. Which is only a disservice to her character and the fans who like her.
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I've literally never seen anything with Ashoka but reading this thread leads me to believe she's the actual definition of Mary Sue.
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I agree, it actually does make her look like a coward. Which I don't want to be, but it is. I love Ashoka has a character becuase i grew up watching the Clone Wars, but i don't understand is way they had her live at the end of Rebels. It wasn't like they couldn't do more stories with her. Theirs a large gap between her solo book and Rebels that can be filled with a ton of adventures. Filoni could legit write a whole book series for those adventures. Rebels could have had her doing a heroic sacrifice. It fits perfectly in her character to go out fighting to protect others.
But having her be alive during OT. Just sounds offer considering she had help create the rebel alliance, so the idea of her just sitting this one out, kind of beytrays her character in my opinion.
I wouldn't say she started out that way unlike Rey. We actually watched her character grow. It wasn't until Filoni decided she can't die no matter what, that she kind of became one. But I still like her, it's just i wish Filoni could just give the character a conclusion already.
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She is now more than ever, tbh.
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Watch mojo has no consistency. They’ll alternate between bashing the prequels while sucking off Disney to Sucking off Lucas while bashing Disney depending on which of the 20 billion claim clickbate videos released every minute you’re watching
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Not much I can add about Filoni/Ahsoka that I and others haven't already said before.
So here's something else that caught my eye:
Apparently some new line of Disney Wars shirts for RunDisney are coming and surprisingly enough its all OT and PT, and the bad guys shirts only have prequel and OT characters, same with the good guy shirts with no sign of Rey, BB-8 or Kylo Ren in sight despite them usually being shoved somewhere in there, especially Kylo Ren. Despite this, its only Leia and a few others but no sign of Luke despite him being the star...
Also I don't frequent Disney's online shop but from what I'm seeing now their SW section only has an OT banner and the majority of the merch is OT and Baby Yoda shit. This seems to comply with previous notices about future merch focusing more on OT and Disney+ shit while slowly distancing from the sequels, but damn they're really milking the Baby Yoda shit. Pretty pathetic that they realize that its the only original idea they've had that's proven truly mainstream, more so than anything from their godawful new trilogy.
Finally a bunch of sites are talking about Hamill having some kind of new deal with Disney to use his image via creepy CGI zombie fuckery and that GE might be getting minor changes which will be reflected in the new VR game which "updates" the park to feel more like classic SW and replace the Kylo Ren ride with Imperial troopers, Vader and Luke. I think this is all bullshit though considering what a tight situation Disney is in right now financially, especially with this Splash Mountain stuff, although the video game does seem to deviate from the park in a few ways, that much is true, but the rest sounds like bullshit and maybe the video game only differs to try and trick audiences into thinking the park is as good as the game.
So here's something else that caught my eye:
Apparently some new line of Disney Wars shirts for RunDisney are coming and surprisingly enough its all OT and PT, and the bad guys shirts only have prequel and OT characters, same with the good guy shirts with no sign of Rey, BB-8 or Kylo Ren in sight despite them usually being shoved somewhere in there, especially Kylo Ren. Despite this, its only Leia and a few others but no sign of Luke despite him being the star...
Also I don't frequent Disney's online shop but from what I'm seeing now their SW section only has an OT banner and the majority of the merch is OT and Baby Yoda shit. This seems to comply with previous notices about future merch focusing more on OT and Disney+ shit while slowly distancing from the sequels, but damn they're really milking the Baby Yoda shit. Pretty pathetic that they realize that its the only original idea they've had that's proven truly mainstream, more so than anything from their godawful new trilogy.
Finally a bunch of sites are talking about Hamill having some kind of new deal with Disney to use his image via creepy CGI zombie fuckery and that GE might be getting minor changes which will be reflected in the new VR game which "updates" the park to feel more like classic SW and replace the Kylo Ren ride with Imperial troopers, Vader and Luke. I think this is all bullshit though considering what a tight situation Disney is in right now financially, especially with this Splash Mountain stuff, although the video game does seem to deviate from the park in a few ways, that much is true, but the rest sounds like bullshit and maybe the video game only differs to try and trick audiences into thinking the park is as good as the game.
Mojo has been shit for years. Big surprise. At least the dumb fuckers admit that its been whored out to death while explaining that they left out the MCU because it actually had a "vision" unlike Disney Wars.
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She absolutely is, as of Clone Wars Season 7. The show positions staple characters like Obi-Wan as wrong or flawed in judgment so that Ahsoka can lecture them, and neutered Darth Maul so she could beat him. It's fucking ridiculous, and the reason I'll never sit through that garbage.
The only character who has her beat in canon is Doctor Aphra, and that's only because she's so blatantly written into forced importance that you have Luke Fucking Skywalker railing against his stalwart companions and nailing himself to a cross in Aphra's defense, because "SHE'S MY FRIEND!!!!1!"
It's My Immortal levels of breaking canon to elevate one's OC.
I don't know what's so hard about creators like Filoni killing off characters and letting them stay dead. Look at Greg Keyes: he made a great character in NJO with Nen Yim, fleshed her out, fulfilled her storytelling potential and then killed her off in the penultimate book in the series. And it served to motivate another character in the series to fight harder, and be more determined to see her goals through....so the death had weight and significance on the narrative.
This is was one of the reasons I actually really liked the way that Savage Oppress was killed off--the emotional effect on Maul is immediate, and motivates him during the fight with Sidious and during the Son Of Dathomir Comics. Filoni didn't fuck that up, but will then turn around and bend time and space to resurrect his orange jailbait.
It makes no fucking sense.
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Seaon 3 have Rebels is about Ezra dealing with Ashoka gone and Kanan being blind. When they brought her back, it kind of ruin part of Ezra's character development for me.
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Now, this is borderline autistic, but can a reboot of SW set in the real world (modern day Earth) work?
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It could but people wouldn't like it because the Rebellion would essentially be ISIL.
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It could be really good, since it could be about a bright future subverted to totalitarianism and a unique take on Star Wars. The Death Star could be a solar-powered laser at the Earth-Sun L1 point (like the Solar System in Gundam 0079 or maybe Gryps colony laser in Zeta Gundam) with accompanying "moon"-esque space station (since we still want a "moon" to blow up at the end of the movie), and "Yavin" could be an asteroid base nearby said Death Star.
But it could just be endless ORANGE MAN BAD thing and how the evil alt-right Nazis made an empire and how the rebels fight them for globalism's sake.
No, people wouldn't like it because it isn't Star Wars (but it obviously rips it off) and weebs/Japs would think it's a ripoff of Gundam 0079 except the Gundam/GMs are X-Wings/Y-Wings and the Zakus/Gelgoogs are TIE Fighters/TIE Advanced.
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He said real world modern times and you went off on some autistic anime rant. A realistic modern "Star" Wars would absolutely be set in the Middle East and all the brutality that therein implies, not some James Bondesque Gundam nonsense.
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Star Wars set in the modern day would just be a samurai movie set in space with all the space stuff removed.
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What do you honestly expect from a "real world modern times" take on Star Wars, when the lowest tech you can possibly make a "Death Star" (the main threat) is on the level of what the typical James Bond villain plans on using? The villain isn't Muhammad chopping up kuffar, it's Muhammad aiming his killsat.
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A fucking dirty H-bomb, like in the plot of The Sum of All Fears. It's not a terribly difficult concept and you don't have to go to retarded anime lengths to do it. It's not as if they don't try to make that shit IRL either.
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Sounds pretty fucking boring for a remake of a movie which mixed Vietnam War shit and Dune but made it over the top.