Official Physical Health Speculation & Cancer Discussion - hulthy just big

[Xenomorph]

Just in case you gorls were worried, shes back on twitter
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aS a FaTaSs
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a min, LAP SURGERIES ARE THROUGH THE BELLY BUTTON...LEMME FIND OUT. This could be why she was discharged so fast tbh I was stunned she was discharged from a complete open hyst, now if it was a lap then i can see why she was

 

[DefCon Dumb]

By seam, I think she means waistline. Her gut is so large, items that would normally end up higher on the stomach end up right smack on her belly button.

In my experience, most abdominal incisions in that area, go AROUND the belly button & yes, laproscopic surgies in the abdomen often go through the belly button.

 

[NotreallyPutin]

I thought it'd be hip to hip

Lol, maybe going through ALR's belly button was the only viable option on a woman that big. Can you even locate her hips through that sea of blubber?

 

[escándalo]

God my bestie called this shit, that she is going to double down on being a cancer survivor of stage 1 of the slowest fucking cancer. Fuck off Amber. I think what is more insulting she had no treatment whatsoever bar one op didn't even do chemo

 

[Mandaark]

Just in case you gorls were worried, shes back on twitter
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I feel like she's trying to adopt the carefree attitude of sagshawty
"I'm fat so wut lol"

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a min, LAP SURGERIES ARE THROUGH THE BELLY BUTTON...LEMME FIND OUT. This could be why she was discharged so fast tbh I was stunned she was discharged from a complete open hyst, now if it was a lap then i can see why she was

No wonder she got triggered by that gallbladder comment.
Don't they remove stones the same way -lap surgery?

 

[Xenomorph]

I feel like she's trying to adopt the carefree attitude of sagshawty
"I'm fat so wut lol"



No wonder she got triggered by that gallbladder comment.
Don't they remove stones the same way -lap surgery?

They sure do they go right in the belly button and make about 3/4 small incisions.

 

[PettyBitch]

The belly button comment sounds like it's going to be a catalyst. I've felt that she's been lying and embellishing, but now...

It absolutely sounds like they did it without actually opening her up. Logistically, the only way that makes sense is that it was done via laparoscopic methods. Why would they slice through her belly button to get... She has so much adipose... How the fuck would they stitch all that shit together and trust that she wouldn't absolutely bust her shit wide the fuck.... Wow. I can't believe she'd lie to make it seem like things are harder for her than they actually are. It's so unlike her...

 

[Cataloons]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a min, LAP SURGERIES ARE THROUGH THE BELLY BUTTON...LEMME FIND OUT.

LAP surgeries for lady bits are *generally* through the belly button, if they are relatively non-invasive.

(Power Level: I've had lady bits surgery that included non-invasive laproscopy.)

A lady Amber's size would not be able to have a standard lap, even for relatively minor procedures. Think of it as a funnel to get through the layers of fat - the outside incision needs to have an opening much larger than the peritoneum incision to have enough space to remove bits safely. Especially with cancer, because you don't want to accidentally have any cancer cells left wandering around in the body cavity.

 

[Paranoid Squirrel]

I'm wondering if they didn't start Amber's incision a little higher than Chantal's (see spoiler pic) and that's why she thinks it goes through her belly button?

Spoiler: chantal gunt incision

 

[Moons over my hamber]

Nobody’s underwear rips unless it’s too small, it’s not a mechanical flaw. Any time Amber says “other people ____too” you can guarantee she’s embarrassed about it and trying hilariously to defend herself.

eta: format

False consensus is a psychological effect where people overestimate how many other people share their own poor biases and behaviors. Conversely, false uniqueness is where people believe their own good traits are rare among others. As we can see, our Shamu displays both in spades.

 

[PettyBitch]

LAP surgeries for lady bits are *generally* through the belly button, if they are relatively non-invasive.

(Power Level: I've had lady bits surgery that included non-invasive laproscopy.)

A lady Amber's size would not be able to have a standard lap, even for relatively minor procedures. Think of it as a funnel to get through the layers of fat - the outside incision needs to have an opening much larger than the peritoneum incision to have enough space to remove bits safely. Especially with cancer, because you don't want to accidentally have any cancer cells left wandering around in the body cavity.

What...? You don't want cancer cells left wandering around in the body cavity? Do you think you can see cancer with the naked eye and they make sure to clean it all away? They literally tell people "We think we got it all" because your scans are what provide that confirmation.

Her cancer was contained in an organ that needed to be removed. It is absolutely possible, plausible, and safe to do it on someone her size via laparoscopy.

 

[fvckm3]

$16 for a pair of underwear really isn't bad. One pantie from VS can cost $10.50-$14.50, or more. I can't say what the quality of Torrid's underwear is like, but I assume it's pretty decent. If a 'normal' sized woman is spending say, $11 for one pair, then $16 for a pair of underwear that's like, 8x the size, is not "crazy" Also, I'm sure Amber is tossing her underwear in the dryer which you're not supposed to do and will eventually ruin them.
But I'm giving her way too much credit, we know she's ripping them because she's fat af


I've seen Amber many times denying that she has alopecia, or especially traction alopecia. Gorrrrrl, quit playin' That bun is so heavy with the amount of hair and the grease in it. Also, she puts it up and leaves it there for days so it can fall back and tug of that hairline. She WILL have TA if she doesn't already have it now.
Another thing she probably already has is seborrheic dermatitis, due to her going extended periods of time w/ out washing her hair. If you don't see a dermatologist or GP for that shit, it can get really, really gross and incredibly uncomfortable due to how itchy your scalp can get. You have to treat it, just like everything else that goes wrong with your body. But Amber won't.

Another thing. I am truly shocked not surprised that Amber is now blaming her cancer on her having extra estrogen, and not her weight. Uhhh, isn't her weight the reason she has so much "extra" estrogen?!? Amber has reached peak levels of insanity. I don't know if it's the pills, like people have been saying, but I'm leaning more towards, this bitch has lost her mind, and any sense of self-awareness completely.

Ok, last thing. That picture she posted of Becky on snapchat, how just, pathetic and depressing. That ugly shit on the wall, and Becky is sitting so close to that damn tv, her knee is almost touching it. She's going to have to pull a Chantal to get her ass out of that chair at the rate that she's gaining.

I bet her underwear keeps ripping from all the times she's had to wash from free bleeding. Becky prob is grossed out and just throws it all in the washing machine on a hard cycle with bleach. She also get sizes x5 too small because she thinks she's a dainty gorl.

Amber's refusal to believe her obesity caused her cancer just illustrated how delusional she is and how she can never take responsibility. Her mental gymnastics in her logic truly is behemoth lol
I quoted a scientific paper earlier, but basically, "More than half of endometrial cancers are currently attributable to obesity, which is recognized as an independent risk factor for this disease."
Link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5455320/

Becky is now a complete zombie fat tweeny boy, which is amber's preference, but one she can control.

 

[Skippy1931]

I don’t understand how they got thru that amount f fat for laparoscopic. Also a lot of times it’s thru the vagina not belly button

 

[repentance]

I don’t understand how they got thru that amount f fat for laparoscopic. Also a lot of times it’s thru the vagina not belly button

Most weight loss surgeries are performed laparoscopically, so it's not that unusual to go through a large amount of fat.

I don't recall her mentioning having multiple incisions, though.

 

[DefCon Dumb]

"The only way to beat an eating disorder is no restrictions."

But in her video, she talks about first calories counting, (cancelled that because it's 'triggering'), then doing WW, which is also restrictive. She has not recently mentioned being in therapy for whatever eating disorder she may genuinely have been diagnosed with.

Serious question for anyone with an eating disorder who's in therapy or who knows someone who is well enough to be up on the details... If your health is at risk because of already unrestricted eating but therapy requires "no restrictions" - what therapy would you be getting to start seeing food realistically?

MOST people I know trying to lose weight or maintain a healthy weight DO restrict themselves in some way, even if it's as mundane as cutting a smaller slice of cake or opting for a less calorie packed snack or dessert. Is restriction forever off limits for those with eating disorders? If so, how do you get to a healthier weight.

I'm unironically asking these questions because I simply can't find any logic in her statement.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

"The only way to beat an eating disorder is no restrictions."

But in her video, she talks about first calories counting, (cancelled that because it's 'triggering'), then doing WW, which is also restrictive. She has not recently mentioned being in therapy for whatever eating disorder she may genuinely have been diagnosed with.

Serious question for anyone with an eating disorder who's in therapy or who knows someone who is well enough to be up on the details... If your health is at risk because of already unrestricted eating but therapy requires "no restrictions" - what therapy would you be getting to start seeing food realistically?

MOST people I know trying to lose weight or maintain a healthy weight DO restrict themselves in some way, even if it's as mundane as cutting a smaller slice of cake or opting for a less calorie packed snack or dessert. Is restriction forever off limits for those with eating disorders? If so, how do you get to a healthier weight.

I'm unironically asking these questions because I simply can't find any logic in her statement.

Nah it's bullshit, though I wouldn't be surprised if the hardcore HAES "therapists" have programs that espouse this. Even hardcore anorexia patients are encouraged to eat junk food they really enjoy if they want to in small amounts once or twice a week and reasonable healthy food in proper portions otherwise, not go ham on crap. People with eating disorders need fucking meal plans, if they were capable of regulating their intake themselves without being super conscious of it (at least at first) they wouldn't fucking be eating disorder patients now would they.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

"The only way to beat an eating disorder is no restrictions."

But in her video, she talks about first calories counting, (cancelled that because it's 'triggering'), then doing WW, which is also restrictive. She has not recently mentioned being in therapy for whatever eating disorder she may genuinely have been diagnosed with.

Serious question for anyone with an eating disorder who's in therapy or who knows someone who is well enough to be up on the details... If your health is at risk because of already unrestricted eating but therapy requires "no restrictions" - what therapy would you be getting to start seeing food realistically?

MOST people I know trying to lose weight or maintain a healthy weight DO restrict themselves in some way, even if it's as mundane as cutting a smaller slice of cake or opting for a less calorie packed snack or dessert. Is restriction forever off limits for those with eating disorders? If so, how do you get to a healthier weight.

I'm unironically asking these questions because I simply can't find any logic in her statement.

So, for actual BED (which I'm pretty sure doesn't apply to ALR, but whatever) one element of therapy can be to fight the compulsion to binge by eating small, frequent meals so you're never hungry, and not declaring certain foods as "off-limits" and therefore something you can obsess over. If someone told you that as of midnight tonight you could never eat cheese again, you might have the urge to do nothing but eat cheese until the clock strikes twelve. That's the kind of mechanism that's happening here -- binging, and binge foods, are a huge coping mechanism and trying to stop them all at once isn't something these people can easily do. So, the idea is to get the compulsion under control first and then start to look at eating a healthier diet overall. Someone who goes into a trance and eats 6000 calories of Burger King when they're stressed doesn't benefit from eating healthy the rest of the day. So, work on the issues that lead to the binges first, find other coping mechanisms, etc., THEN start thinking about a calorie-restricted diet to get the weight under control. Somewhat surprisingly, a lot of people manage to do this really well, once the binging stops -- they can actually eat a normal diet just fine, but it was the binging that was fucking things up.

It's like stitching someone up while they're still actively stabbing themselves, and stabbing themselves is the only way they can deal with life. Yeah, they're gonna lose a lot of blood, but it's futile to try to fix that when the knife's still in play. And if they recognize it's futile, they give up and make no progress at all. That's the logic, at least. And it works in some cases.

Of course, AL binges constantly, by any normal definition. Normal people have no issue eating under 2000 calories a day, not 7000. She might have mega-binges now and then, but her daily diet is nonstop garbage and "rewards" and "treats" as it is. She's just a glutton. As I said, a lot of BED people can eat normally but have a compulsion to binge. ALR doesn't come close to this pattern. She's adopting the language and, to an extent, the process of treating an actual disorder in order to make excuses for her on-going bullshit self-indulgence.

 

[Thumbsballs]

"The only way to beat an eating disorder is no restrictions."

But in her video, she talks about first calories counting, (cancelled that because it's 'triggering'), then doing WW, which is also restrictive. She has not recently mentioned being in therapy for whatever eating disorder she may genuinely have been diagnosed with.

Serious question for anyone with an eating disorder who's in therapy or who knows someone who is well enough to be up on the details... If your health is at risk because of already unrestricted eating but therapy requires "no restrictions" - what therapy would you be getting to start seeing food realistically?

MOST people I know trying to lose weight or maintain a healthy weight DO restrict themselves in some way, even if it's as mundane as cutting a smaller slice of cake or opting for a less calorie packed snack or dessert. Is restriction forever off limits for those with eating disorders? If so, how do you get to a healthier weight.

I'm unironically asking these questions because I simply can't find any logic in her statement.

When somebody is so twisted mentally there is a lot of self sabotage that goes on and eating is a major control issue. Basically the person is warped and they need full on therapy or a support group with a sponsor or something to help them unwarp their thinking. I had an eating disorder for many years and instill have disordered eating and attitudes about foods. Unless Amber really puts her mental health and emotional recovery at the forefront, reshaping ALL of her thoughts and beliefs and who she is, she’s fucked. You end up a different person at the end of it if you did it correctly. You think, feel, cope, act etc differently. It’s been a journey as long as the eating disorder for me and we are talking over a decade or two Give or take on bolth sides of it.
What she is referring to is that if she deprives herself, she knows she has a deeper, angry, hurt, rebellious side that will act out by all the Fucking food she wants, whenever she wants. So by not putting that pressure, she is able to keep more day to day stability.. binge and purge is a cycle, like the one she is on. If she doesn’t fall into the purge of restricting than she is not going to fall into the binge. You can help Yourself on either end of the cycle by either not binging or purging which ever is easier. It was easier for me not to throw up my food than it was to not binge, so I worked on not throwing up first and that helped me not have the need to binge down the road. It takes time to regulate this and you have to have a lot of insight to do that. This is true also with financial cycles, love addiction cycles, whatever it’s always feast or famine never middle ground, it’s warped. It just plays Itself our over a different substance for each person or a different maladaptive behavior. You are out of control and trying to over control and sperg it all up. Balance and yes, amber, yes, moderation will help you stay in the middle. Lol

 

[escándalo]

The thing is with Amber its not BED; BED has an incredibly particular DSM because it has too. You can't just say I ate reeses because I felt sad. Also she premeditates her food intakes we know this. BED is spontaneous and over here, irregular wait gain is a symptom and way of defining. Amber's weight gain is continual it does not stop. With BED the patient is encouraged to pursue CBT usually and then their eating habits are analysed and then a method is given usually frequent small intakes of food to slowly normalise behaviours. Because the prior therapy binges rarely happen because the origin is known so the patient is self-aware. Sometimes additional therapies are needed such as bereavement etc.

Amber's opinion on BED as is Chantal's is incredibly poisonous and diminishes the effort actual ED sufferers chase, I can understand why people take offence to her.

 

[Nicotine Fetish]

Really, I can only assume none of us are doctors. And Amber is not a doctor. So what would an actual weight loss doctor say? You know, somebody with a medical degree and years upon years of knowledge and practice in this field. Somebody who literally dedicated a large chunk of their life learning the science. What would that doctor say about restriction? Oh, wait. She did go to a weight loss doctor and he told her to restrict. Yikes. But I forget. Amber, who is infamous on YouTube for gaining weight, and 500 plus pounds. Knows better how to treat an eating disorder cause she - read google? I guess. Or she just knows what works for her? Nah, that doctor was wrong about restriction. She’s right.