Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Diana Moon Glampers]

The entire "trans kid" phenomenon is basically a whole subculture of kids swearing they'll hold their breath until they DIE if you don't give them what they want, and parents saying "oh snookums I don't want you to die, have whatever you need." There's a reason all the trans teen suicide research is about attempts, not completions, and makes absolutely no attempt to even discover whether an attempt was serious or nominal.

I don't think that it's an accident, but I also don't think all the parents who are transitioning their kids are doing it because they genuinely fear suicide. For many of them, I think the suicide idea is their magic "get out of sensible parenting free" card, allowing them to go full Munchausen's with an air of smug superiority because "better a live daughter than a dead son."

I've talked before about how many "parents of trans kids" have the story about finding their son just about to cut off his penis, but how there are no reports of actual injury or auto-amputation of this sort in the medical literature or news stories. It's always about mommy heroically coming to the rescue just in time, a story that wraps up with a bow the clear and immediate need to do something, and which makes the "treatments" of transition look less brutal than the alternatives.

For parents like Jaron's, the suicide statistics and horror stories of traumatized kids are shields, the only thing between them and a societal rebuke for mutilating a boy because he had a princess phase at age 3.

 

[NoReturn]

It's always about mommy heroically coming to the rescue just in time, a story that wraps up with a bow the clear and immediate need to do something, and which makes the "treatments" of transition look less brutal than the alternatives.

I've been checking in on the munchies recently and this is just such a constant. It's always an enabling mother and a passive or checked-out father (if one's in the picture at all).

 

[Freya]

Why the fuck is jazz's thread in beauty parlor? What's the logic?

"he's a fat, mentally ill homosexual. Female enough!"

 

[You's On Dat Ole Bullshit]

The entire "trans kid" phenomenon is basically a whole subculture of kids swearing they'll hold their breath until they DIE if you don't give them what they want, and parents saying "oh snookums I don't want you to die, have whatever you need." There's a reason all the trans teen suicide research is about attempts, not completions, and makes absolutely no attempt to even discover whether an attempt was serious or nominal.

I don't think that it's an accident, but I also don't think all the parents who are transitioning their kids are doing it because they genuinely fear suicide. For many of them, I think the suicide idea is their magic "get out of sensible parenting free" card, allowing them to go full Munchausen's with an air of smug superiority because "better a live daughter than a dead son."

I've talked before about how many "parents of trans kids" have the story about finding their son just about to cut off his penis, but how there are no reports of actual injury or auto-amputation of this sort in the medical literature or news stories. It's always about mommy heroically coming to the rescue just in time, a story that wraps up with a bow the clear and immediate need to do something, and which makes the "treatments" of transition look less brutal than the alternatives.

For parents like Jaron's, the suicide statistics and horror stories of traumatized kids are shields, the only thing between them and a societal rebuke for mutilating a boy because he had a princess phase at age 3.

There was an article I read years ago (before all this woke shit started) with a title like "Congratulations on accepting your gay kid! But you still have to parent them!". Its author, who was himself an openly gay family therapist, detailed some of the absurd things he's heard parents of gay adolescents say and do when it came to "accepting" their children. One couple knowingly gave their 16-year-old son money for a fake ID so he could go to a gay nightclub. Another couple let their 15-year-old lesbian daughter date a woman in her late 20s. Others still refused to ground their kids for something as mundane not doing their chores because "I don't want him to think I'm using that as excuse to punish him for being gay." Not surprisingly on the other end of the spectrum were kids whose parents...y'know...parented them and actually thought enforcing basic rules such as curfews and good grades were homophobia.

The scariest part — to both myself and the author — was that although there were parents who were genuinely scared of the gay suicide boogeyman (I'm not trying to make light of that, just using that term to make a point), many of these parents genuinely thought that giving their kids fake IDs and such was in fact how you "parent" an openly gay teenager. They were shocked when this gay therapist actually told them they should have the same rules and expectation for the gay child as they do their straight children. If your straight son or daughter isn't allowed to have people of the opposite sex in their bedroom, the same applies to your gay son or daughter with people of the same sex. Finding a Playgirl in Junior's room is treated as no more or less acceptable than a Playboy. You get the gist. Basically, these parents thought common sense went out the window the minute their kids came out of the closet.

Although no mention was made of trans folk, the problem is basically the same with their parents. The scary part is that "accepting your child" has become mutilating them. Not to mention the people like Jeannette who knowingly induce the shit. I don't believe anyone really had to talk her into doing this.

As far as the trope about the two-year-old caught just before he castrated himself, I've never believed such stories. I know people say that kids have some awareness, but I just can't buy it. Even if a two-year-old boy insisted he was a girl, how would he know that girls don't have penises? When I was little (I'm an only child) and we used to go out to eat and we'd all use the restroom before we left, my mom would into the ladies' room and my dad and I into the men's. I don't think I ever questioned what that was about or what was in the ladies' room that dad and I weren't supposed to see. And I'm sure, despite what "experts" tell us now, is how most children that age are.

The most ludicrous part to me was always "When is the fairy going to changed my penis into a vagina?". I've heard that it's sometimes recommended when potty training very young children to actually name the parts outright, but in what context would a two-and-a-half three-year-old BOY have to know the word vagina and that women have them? If Jazz did say that, he was likely coached outright by Jeannette to do so. Kids have vivid imaginations and repeat everything, but this is fucking ridiculous.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

Why the fuck is jazz's thread in beauty parlor? What's the logic?

"he's a fat, mentally ill homosexual. Female enough!"

I'm willing to call Jazz a woman, she's been raised as one and knows nothing else, it's not like some dumbshit teenager being "trans" because the popular kids are doing it or some pervert in his 40s who has fathered multiple children having a midlife crisis and demanding everyone call him Alice. If nothing else I can respect how committed she is to the fucking bit. She's past the point where she can ever be a normal male and I don't think she'd want to, she's kind of stuck on the course she's on now, the least I can do is acknowledge her stupid fucking pronouns.

 

[Bananasaurus]

Why the fuck is jazz's thread in beauty parlor? What's the logic?

"he's a fat, mentally ill homosexual. Female enough!"

The beauty parlor section of this forum is actually pretty fucked up. You could even say it has become somewhat of a freakshow. We have junkies who document their addiction, some fucked up chick who is tearing apart her own legs with her bare hands, an anorexic so emaciated she makes concentration camp survivors look fat, and pro life fundie parents carting around their barely sentient offspring, to name only a few.
All things considered, a chemically castrated child performer fits in pretty well.

 

[NoReturn]

Basically, these parents thought common sense went out the window the minute their kids came out of the closet.

I have always wondered if this is in part due to the high visibility of hypersexuality in things like gay pride parades. When I was a kid we had some local lesbians (nice ladies, I looked up to them) and they were no different than anyone else. We didn't even have a "pride" anywhere nearby until 2000-something. I wonder if people who grew up with LGB people like that would parent differently than someone who grew up in San Francisco and went to the parades every year.

She's past the point where she can ever be a normal male and I don't think she'd want to, she's kind of stuck on the course she's on now, the least I can do is acknowledge her stupid fucking pronouns.

Thing is though, she (see I can do the pronoun thing too) is male. Being a girl and becoming a woman isn't something that is done to you, it's just biology. Acting like "Oh this person was treated like how we treat female children so they're a girl" is exactly the kind of shit that radical feminists get all butthurt about on a regular basis. This fucked-up young adult doesn't have to be in the "girl" category to wear dresses and act like they want to act, that's how this trouble started in the first place.

 

[KeepHopeAlive]

I've heard that it's sometimes recommended when potty training very young children to actually name the parts outright, but in what context would a two-and-a-half three-year-old BOY have to know the word vagina and that women have them? If Jazz did say that, he was likely coached outright by Jeannette to do so.

For people that have children of both sexes it is not uncommon that little kids see the different genitalia of their siblings and question it early on. Changing at the beach/lake/pool or kids running nekkid around the house before/after bath time is normal. I could see that likely happening in the Jennings household. Problen is weak fucked up narc Jeannette just couldn't say no ever to Jazz and when he was difficult(prob her most difficult kid), she likely coddled and encouraged her last baby and then felt the rush of woked asspats, especially from her stupid counselor/therapist for Trans cousin or sister, can't remember what relation she is to Jeannette other than a co-conspirator.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

There was an article I read years ago (before all this woke shit started) with a title like "Congratulations on accepting your gay kid! But you still have to parent them!". Its author, who was himself an openly gay family therapist, detailed some of the absurd things he's heard parents of gay adolescents say and do when it came to "accepting" their children. One couple knowingly gave their 16-year-old son money for a fake ID so he could go to a gay nightclub. Another couple let their 15-year-old lesbian daughter date a woman in her late 20s. Others still refused to ground their kids for something as mundane not doing their chores because "I don't want him to think I'm using that as excuse to punish him for being gay." Not surprisingly on the other end of the spectrum were kids whose parents...y'know...parented them and actually thought enforcing basic rules such as curfews and good grades were homophobia.

The scariest part — to both myself and the author — was that although there were parents who were genuinely scared of the gay suicide boogeyman (I'm not trying to make light of that, just using that term to make a point), many of these parents genuinely thought that giving their kids fake IDs and such was in fact how you "parent" an openly gay teenager. They were shocked when this gay therapist actually told them they should have the same rules and expectation for the gay child as they do their straight children. If your straight son or daughter isn't allowed to have people of the opposite sex in their bedroom, the same applies to your gay son or daughter with people of the same sex. Finding a Playgirl in Junior's room is treated as no more or less acceptable than a Playboy. You get the gist. Basically, these parents thought common sense went out the window the minute their kids came out of the closet.

Although no mention was made of trans folk, the problem is basically the same with their parents. The scary part is that "accepting your child" has become mutilating them. Not to mention the people like Jeannette who knowingly induce the shit. I don't believe anyone really had to talk her into doing this.

As far as the trope about the two-year-old caught just before he castrated himself, I've never believed such stories. I know people say that kids have some awareness, but I just can't buy it. Even if a two-year-old boy insisted he was a girl, how would he know that girls don't have penises? When I was little (I'm an only child) and we used to go out to eat and we'd all use the restroom before we left, my mom would into the ladies' room and my dad and I into the men's. I don't think I ever questioned what that was about or what was in the ladies' room that dad and I weren't supposed to see. And I'm sure, despite what "experts" tell us now, is how most children that age are.

The most ludicrous part to me was always "When is the fairy going to changed my penis into a vagina?". I've heard that it's sometimes recommended when potty training very young children to actually name the parts outright, but in what context would a two-and-a-half three-year-old BOY have to know the word vagina and that women have them? If Jazz did say that, he was likely coached outright by Jeannette to do so. Kids have vivid imaginations and repeat everything, but this is fucking ridiculous.

Hasn't it been scientifically proven that children don't actually start to realize the difference between boys and girls until at least five? Yeah, if your kid's self mutilating at two, or know the word penis and vagina (barring those parents that would just rather skip the juvenile terms for equipment (even terms like "privates") and know that boys and girls have different plumbing, fucking congratulations, your toddler's being sexually abused, best call the police.

 

[NerdShamer]

The beauty parlor section of this forum is actually pretty fucked up. You could even say it has become somewhat of a freakshow. We have junkies who document their addiction, some fucked up chick who is tearing apart her own legs with her bare hands, an anorexic so emaciated she makes concentration camp survivors look fat, and pro life fundie parents carting around their barely sentient offspring, to name only a few.
All things considered, a chemically castrated child performer fits in pretty well.

Who's the chick tearing apart her legs? I've already seen the rest of those.

 

[You's On Dat Ole Bullshit]

For people that have children of both sexes it is not uncommon that little kids see the different genitalia of their siblings and question it early on. Changing at the beach/lake/pool or kids running nekkid around the house before/after bath time is normal. I could see that likely happening in the Jennings household. Problen is weak fucked up narc Jeannette just couldn't say no ever to Jazz and when he was difficult(prob her most difficult kid), she likely coddled and encouraged her last baby and then felt the rush of woked asspats, especially from her stupid counselor/therapist for Trans cousin or sister, can't remember what relation she is to Jeannette other than a co-conspirator.

I'm an only child, so that's a good point. Of course, whatever the reason, I tend to immediately side-eye nearly anything that comes out of Jeannette's mouth.

Oh, and the co-conspirator is Jeannette's cousin Deborah, better known as Cousin Debbie™.

 

[Bananasaurus]

Thing is though, she (see I can do the pronoun thing too) is male. Being a girl and becoming a woman isn't something that is done to you, it's just biology. Acting like "Oh this person was treated like how we treat female children so they're a girl" is exactly the kind of shit that radical feminists get all butthurt about on a regular basis. This fucked-up young adult doesn't have to be in the "girl" category to wear dresses and act like they want to act, that's how this trouble started in the first place.

I don't really think anybody is going to argue against the fact that if you are born male, you can modify your body all you want but your DNA will still always be male.
At this point Jazz is stuck with a disproportionate androgynous face, deformed breasts, a little boy voice, and pretty much no genitalia. Neither being a man nor being a woman will ever feel natural. I agree that just staying the way they are right now would be the smartest choice. They may feel distressed about being a botched not-quite-woman, but the only alternative would be subjecting themselves to even more unnecessary procedures and even more hormone therapy to end up being a penisless 5'2 not-quite-man who will without a doubt also feel very dysphoric.

Jazz is likely never going to be able to maintain a long-term romantic relationship, but a lot of loser incels with functioning genitals cannot do that either. However, and I realize that this is very unlikely to happen, if they learned to shut up about their exploding genitals, stepped out of the LGBTWTFBBQ hugbox, matured a whole lot and learned about which conversation topics normal human beings cared about, they would theoretically at least be able to make some friends. Nobody gives a fuck about your genitals unless they are interested in banging you.

Maybe that's just me, but I think mommy cutting their balls off is not even the worst thing she did to Jazz. She's ruined sex and intimate relationships for them, that sucks, but on top of that she's also raised a child that is completely unable to function outside of their tranny hugbox. No hobbies, no college, no interests outside of female genitalia, no job, no ambitions... They're completely unable to relate to anybody who is not also a part of the tranny mafia. And that pretty much screws up all other aspects of life Jazz might have enjoyed. Like you know, having a career that does not involve "activism" I. E. discussing his mangled genitalia in even greater detail.

Who's the chick tearing apart her legs? I've already seen the rest of those.

Kelly Ronahan. Enjoy I guess.

 

[Muttnik]

I think there would have at least been a rare, but decent enough chance Jazz could have found someone "asexual" to be his significant other. The trouble is that he has nothing in the way of personality to be able to maintain a proper relationship. Serious relationships are built on adult behavior and even if Jazz were to score someone who just loves him for him and would be fine with being together without real sex, they still would likely ragequit or leave because they'd very quickly realize they'd be babysitting a stunted kid for the rest of their life. Jazz can't even make it through normal conversations without tantruming or having a "panic attack". There's no way he could make it through a lover's quarrel or a serious relationship discussion without freaking out and needing mommy to come to the rescue.

So Jeanette has not only fucked him up on a sexual level, but on an emotional and social level as well.

 

[NerdShamer]

How in the fuck is Kelly still alive with legs like that?

 

[Teazel]

How in the fuck is Kelly still alive with legs like that?

Take it to her thread. We're discussing the sad, freakish life of a narcissist's child with a poop vag here.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Jazz is in the Beauty Parlor because she acts like a bitch.

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

Even if a two-year-old boy insisted he was a girl, how would he know that girls don't have penises?

Like any kid, I took a lot of baths with my brothers and sister, and I’d compare my genitals to theirs. My little penis felt so wrong on me. I wished I could take the sponge and wipe it off, and behind it I’d magically find a “gagina” like what my sister and my mom had.

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/4350574/jazz-jennings-transgender/?amp=true

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

So Jeanette has not only fucked him up on a sexual level, but on an emotional and social level as well.

I have to wonder: if trooning out was as easy as it is on Star Trek, would Jazz still have his junk? After all, if there was nothing unique or special about going trans and it could be done in a simple outpatient procedure, then Jeanette wouldn't be a #stunningandbrave #ally, she'd just be normal. Following the barely-a-theory that she's MBP, she did this to her son for the purpose of her own self-aggrandizement- meaning that the more he struggles and suffers, the more she can support him and thus the more she gets out of it.

Holy perverse incentives, Batman.

 

[Muttnik]

Jeanette is very puzzling. She mimes the qualities of empathy when it suits her. But when given the chance to display real empathy, there's nothing there. She's "empathetic" in that she has a desire to protect and shield Jazz, but it's not out of natural mother-child compassion. It's following a narrative emphasized by shallow reality television. Whenever she actually DOES have to talk to Jazz on a supportive level, she's very selfish and passive aggressive, often making the moment about her and how bad SHE feels. Whenever she validates Jazz or feels the pain of Jazz being away or independent, it's all about how it impacts HER and not how it impacts Jazz. Classic narc sociopathy. I don't think it was bred into her--as spoiled by her parents as she was, they don't act like her at all and express legitimate concern for Jazz's wellbeing. I think that's how she always was. Just a shallow, empty husk of a person that loves attention and is incapable of caring about the feelings of others when it doesn't involve her.

Greg is the opposite but to no real advantage. He clearly feels a lot of empathy and likely understands deep down what this is doing to his son. The difference is that he lacks the courage or the balls to do anything about it, which is even worse than Jeanette imo. He clearly displays all the empathy of a concerned father but he will not act upon it, not even if it means his son's life. It's really fascinating.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Jeanette is very puzzling. She mimes the qualities of empathy when it suits her. But when given the chance to display real empathy, there's nothing there. She's "empathetic" in that she has a desire to protect and shield Jazz, but it's not out of natural mother-child compassion. It's following a narrative emphasized by shallow reality television. Whenever she actually DOES have to talk to Jazz on a supportive level, she's very selfish and passive aggressive, often making the moment about her and how bad SHE feels. Whenever she validates Jazz or feels the pain of Jazz being away or independent, it's all about how it impacts HER and not how it impacts Jazz. Classic narc sociopathy. I don't think it was bred into her--as spoiled by her parents as she was, they don't act like her at all and express legitimate concern for Jazz's wellbeing. I think that's how she always was. Just a shallow, empty husk of a person that loves attention and is incapable of caring about the feelings of others when it doesn't involve her.

Greg is the opposite but to no real advantage. He clearly feels a lot of empathy and likely understands deep down what this is doing to his son. The difference is that he lacks the courage or the balls to do anything about it, which is even worse than Jeanette imo. He clearly displays all the empathy of a concerned father but he will not act upon it, not even if it means his son's life. It's really fascinating.

I can't imagine having such a pussyfooted father. I guess Jazz wasn't the only one who lost his balls.

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/4350574/jazz-jennings-transgender/?amp=true

Jesus fuck Jeanette, what?! Not gonna go too deep into it, but I too have seen opposite-sex genitalia at a young age and none of that shit, not even "oh we're different" had ever crossed my mind. This is Madeleine Mccann's "perfect little genitals" level of pedoesque perversion that almost makes you want to say we've got a female pedophile here.