Wuhan Coronavirus: Lockdowns, Quarantines, Cancellations

Also anyone know any more regulations that make it hard for hospitals to hire more staff and build more room for beds? Ideally the law of supply and demand would be driving the market like crazy to build more hospitals but supposedly we are being overwhelmed. But I also hear from you kiwis that it isnt true so I wanna know about that as well. Thanks lads.
They built a bunch of overflow hospitals all over the US and all over the world. The vast majority of them have gone unused or have since been dismantled. There's even additional capacity for the US in the form of those hospital ships the Navy has which were used a grand total of once, in New York City, at the height of things there. Anyone who says "we are being overwhelmed" has no idea what they're talking about it.
 
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia has gone into "Stage IV" lockdown, with the rest of the State going into "Stage III" lockdown, thanks to a renewed outbreak. Residents can only leave their homes to work, shop, provide care and exercise. Masks are mandatory. Civic institutions are generally shutdown, religious ceremonies are to be held online and schools have returned to online-only classes. For Melbourne, there is now a curfew from between 8 PM and 5 AM. Police can issues fines for those found in breach of these rules, up to $1.6k for individuals and $10k for businesses.
The media is chimping out at this like crazy to the point of becoming obsessed, I've half a mind to cut them off entirely. The current situation is the same as it was at the start of outbreak with only a small upgrade to the older rules. People are complying easily and the people that tabloids (looking at Daily Mail in particular) are claiming are furious are only a small minority.

The spikes were expected if anyone had even half a brain to discern the infection pattern.
 
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Vietnamese city goes under lockdown, with the source of the newest spike unknown. The Developing Communist nation had been a success story in the fight against the coronavirus, succeeding where wealthier countries like the US, the UK and the EU had failed.

Preston, in Lancashire, England has gone into lockdown as well, with young people urged to "Not Kill Granny". Meetings are resticted to 6 person or less.
 
Redpill me on the study about people not wearing masks being dumb. I know its stupid but I wanna know if there are any obvious flaws with it. not that saying "ur just dumb Xd" invalidates someones argument or anything its just interesting to me that someone bothered to study this.

Also anyone know any more regulations that make it hard for hospitals to hire more staff and build more room for beds? Ideally the law of supply and demand would be driving the market like crazy to build more hospitals but supposedly we are being overwhelmed. But I also hear from you kiwis that it isnt true so I wanna know about that as well. Thanks lads.


I'll kick this over to you, since it has links to studies both for and against with summations. It's probably the best list of both I've seen.

I think the best summation of the whole thing is masks at good at trapping bacteria and viruses find them cute as they go on to infect everyone around you anyways. See the Philippines if you want a current example of masks doing fuck all. Highest compliance level in the world, backed by a president who threatened to shoot anyone not wearing a mask, and it hasn't done shit.
 
There's a followup to the NEJM article (number 5 on the first list) that's kind of funny, the authors try to reiterate their conclusions while still voicing support for "universal masking:"
It is apparent that many people with SARS-CoV-2 infection are asymptomatic or presymptomatic yet highly contagious and that these people account for a substantial fraction of all transmissions. Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions, whether they recognize that they are infected or not.

We did state in the article that “wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection,” but as the rest of the paragraph makes clear, we intended this statement to apply to passing encounters in public spaces, not sustained interactions within closed environments. ... We therefore strongly support the calls of public health agencies for all people to wear masks when circumstances compel them to be within 6 ft of others for sustained periods.
Their original paper was highly dismissive of "universal masking" as most people would understand it. Now they say "universal masking helps," e pur si muove.
 
There's a followup to the NEJM article (number 5 on the first list) that's kind of funny, the authors try to reiterate their conclusions while still voicing support for "universal masking:"

Their original paper was highly dismissive of "universal masking" as most people would understand it. Now they say "universal masking helps," e pur si muove.

That's some impressive weasel wording there. I thought we knew months ago it took sustained, close contact to spread it. Which is why people were calling bullshit on the Protests/Riots not spreading it. And why there's few serious outbreaks from grocery stores. I get wearing a mask when I get my hair cut. If it's going to do anything, that's where it matters.
 
Still banned from the COVID megathread, so I'll just leave this here:
I just hopped on my school's subreddit for the first time in months and was actually pleasantly surprised.

I'm seeing a bunch of posts talking about taking a gap semester. Ones that aren't are asking questions about dropping classes. Didn't see anything like this the past couple falls.

All the users saying reopening is capitalism because online classes are fine seemed to have fucked off.
 
Still banned from the COVID megathread, so I'll just leave this here:
I just hopped on my school's subreddit for the first time in months and was actually pleasantly surprised.

I'm seeing a bunch of posts talking about taking a gap semester. Ones that aren't are asking questions about dropping classes. Didn't see anything like this the past couple falls.

All the users saying reopening is capitalism because online classes are fine seemed to have fucked off.
Make sure to watch fine print on loans if you take a gap semester. Some consider that immediate end of deferrment and no grace period for payments.
 
Want to clarify something random:
@Overcast
That evening I was feeling lazy, so I ordered some uber eats. The bag the food came in had stickers saying "Aren't you glad you stayed inside?" and "Going out is overrated anyway." which kept the bag sealed. Jesus fuck the companies aren't even trying to hide the fact they're attempting to indoctrinate people into this "new normal".
I know it sounds like that, but that particular example is a coincidence: I ordered McDonald's over Uber Eats before all this, and they had those exact stickers with those phrases.
 
Want to clarify something random:
@Overcast

I know it sounds like that, but that particular example is a coincidence: I ordered McDonald's over Uber Eats before all this, and they had those exact stickers with those phrases.
So it wasn't new normal propaganda, but something just as bad: companies trying to tap into that relatable millennial humor.
 
Sky News is going into overdrive blasting Victorian premier Daniel Andrews for new legislation to extend the state of emergency for another whole year. Typical behaviour as usual from the right-wing sheep, calling the premier "a totalitarian dictator" when in fact the legislation only affects the powers of the Chief Health Officer in directing lockdown procedures.

Never have I ever wanted to punch Youtube commenters so hard in the face for crimes against reading comprehension and logic.
 
Typical behaviour as usual from the right-wing sheep, calling the premier "a totalitarian dictator" when in fact the legislation only affects the powers of the Chief Health Officer in directing lockdown procedures.
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