US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
He didn't call COVID a hoax-- he called the Democrat response to COVID a hoax at a time when it wasn't clear that this was going to be a long haul situation, after Democrats and the MSM shifted gears and started taking COVID seriously (prior to that point, they'd been downplaying it the exact same way Trump was criticized for doing later on).

Yeah, that's just SO much better. A pandemic which has killed 164k+ Americans all because Trump was too stupid to listen to scientists. And he hasn't even learned his lesson; he's still saying to not wear masks.

Then again, this sub is full of Trump supporting manlets, so what do I expect?
 
At this point, I'm genuinely curious how Biden(or his handlers, lol) can harm his own chances even more. Calling Blacks who vote for Trump House-Niggers over a hot mic maybe? Talk about how awesome it was to grope 12 year olds? Call the People's Republic of China our greatest ally? We've got some 90 or so days until the election and this trainwreck has a long way to go yet.
 
I suppose the Democrats are going back to their 20th century racist roots, now employing PoCs, the younger generation, and hoodrats as the pawns. While the Republican party is content with Donald Trump pushing the cultural barrage with the 80s Religious Right generation with their own Black pandering.

I have more respect for the Republican party, only because they are the least insane in this whole fight. That said, the Right still embarrasses itself with their neverending support for Trump and distaste for climate, race and education.
 
The few left leaning associates I still have contact with seem to be under the belief that the Democrats have basically given up on the black and possibly progressive vote as a whole with this move. They also think it's meant to be the start of them doing a face change for 2024.
Can you ask them what they think that new face will be? The incoming Biden/Harass loss is only going to embolden the more radical lefties into thinking the party needs to go further left.
 
This is as idiotic as choosing Palin as a running mate. Trying to appeal to the more liberal (conservative, in her case) with a loud mouthed and uninformed bimbo has only ever hurt a serious politician. But I'm pretty sure Joe isn't being serious, anymore. In anything he does.
Palin was a wise choice by McCain's team as they needed a home run to win, and she would have pulled it off if she was prepared or capable. Alas, she was not, and the media rightfully tore her up. But, for like 2 weeks, it was great... and even into the VP debate which got crazy ratings, where she only made herself look like more like a ditz.
 
but he's determined to do nothing but fuck up and make bad choices.
:optimistic: of you to think Biden has made a single actual choice about any aspect of his campaign
This is as idiotic as choosing Palin as a running mate. Trying to appeal to the more liberal (conservative, in her case) with a loud mouthed and uninformed bimbo has only ever hurt a serious politician. But I'm pretty sure Joe isn't being serious, anymore. In anything he does.
This is more idiotic than choosing Palin as a running mate. Election year 2020 makes "I can see Russia from my house" sound downright tame.
 
In true Democrat fashion, they pretty much made the worst choice possible. Yeah, let’s go with someone whose record is totally at odds with the Twitter zeitgeist you’ve been pandering to for 4 years, didn’t even make it to the primaries, and whose most memorable moment in the debates was calling Biden a big evil racist.

My conspiraFacebookboomer MIL was asking us the other day if we thought Biden would pick Michelle Obama as his VP. We said no, of course, but that whoever it was would be a total dud without question because Biden was the best they could come up with for the front runner, and he himself is a total dud. This is even worse than just picking a dud though.
 
because obviously a prosecutor for the dem vp is so 2020 chic, right guys?

i'm surprised that the tone-deafness is even surprising anymore, but it's lulz how hard the dems push to tokenize race and gender. i mean from the get-go biden was very specifically like "fetch me some black woman i guess since the blm thing is happening".

on the plus side, klobs must be in shambles right now. i wonder if she cried.
 
Palin was a wise choice by McCain's team as they needed a home run to win, and she would have pulled it off if she was prepared or capable. Alas, she was not, and the media rightfully tore her up. But, for like 2 weeks, it was great... and even into the VP debate which got crazy ratings, where she only made herself look like more like a ditz.
So, it was a wise choice, except that Palin knew not one single thing she was questioned on or should have been excepted to understand? Yeah...
 
In true Democrat fashion, they pretty much made the worst choice possible. Yeah, let’s go with someone whose record is totally at odds with the Twitter zeitgeist you’ve been pandering to for 4 years, didn’t even make it to the primaries, and whose most memorable moment in the debates was calling Biden a big evil racist.

My conspiraFacebookboomer MIL was asking us the other day if we thought Biden would pick Michelle Obama as his VP. We said no, of course, but that whoever it was would be a total dud without question because Biden was the best they could come up with for the front runner, and he himself is a total dud. This is even worse than just picking a dud though.
Michelle Obama would actually have been a fucking great choice tbh. His entire campaign is "remember Obama? I worked with that guy!" Plus, she's not nearly as outwardly insane as someone like Harris.
That was not a quote by Palin, that was a quote from Tina Fey playing Palin on Saturday Night live.
Yeah, come to think of it you're probably right. Wasn't that a paraphrase of something she actually said, though? Anyway, whatever, the point is a comedian mocking what Palin said seems downright tame compared to current year, hence Palin was comparatively not that bad.
 
I really don't think I can stomach four more years of Trump. For all the hilarious antics and meme magic, I'm sick of listening to the dems whine and act absolutely frothing rabid with their hubris. I never thought we would have Round 2 of 2016 but here we are. It's funny from time to time but it does get really exhausting. I think Tulsi was the best pick for getting things right on track but I knew she had no prayer with how they went after her and demonized her and took away all her thunder.

Anyway, Harris was the worst possible pick Joe could have gotten. It's a kiss of death since I've yet to meet anyone who genuinely likes her or her attitude.
 
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Why Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer wasn’t chosen to be Biden’s running mate in 2020 presidential election
It will be U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., and not Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer who joins presidential candidate Joe Biden on the Democratic ticket, the campaign announced today.

Biden’s announcement ends months of speculation about who would join him on the Democratic ticket in 2020. The former vice president promised he would select a woman run alongside him, and the list of possible contenders included Whitmer, who leads a critical swing state and serves as a national co-chair on the Biden campaign.

Ultimately she didn’t get that slot, something Michigan Democrats say reflects not on her record but on a complex series of factors ranging from Michigan looking like less of a swing state to the party needing Whitmer right where she is.

“I don’t think it’s a rebuke at all of Governor Whitmer and her leadership that she’s displayed, certainly, within the last six months,” said TJ Bucholz, president and managing partner of Vanguard Public Affairs. “It’s more about electoral math.”

Whitmer’s national profile started rising after she decisively won the 2018 gubernatorial election two years after Republican President Donald Trump narrowly flipped Michigan. He profile continued to rise when she was tapped to give the Democratic response to Trump’s State of the Union speech. Her leadership during the COVID-19 pandemic, which hit Michigan harder than most states in the outbreak’s early months, earned her national praise, attacks from Trump supporters and a Saturday Night Live parody.

Her foray into the national spotlight, however, stopped short of earning her the slot as a vice-presidential candidate. She tweeted her congratulations to Harris, along with a photo of both of them on the campaign trail for Biden, on Tuesday.

So why not Whitmer? Experts say there are a number of factors that likely weighed into the decision.

He may not need her to win Michigan.

The polling in Michigan shows Biden with a sizable and growing lead. While Democrats aren’t taking that for granted, it may have made Michigan and other states that swung in 2016 less of a priority to represent with the Vice Presidential selection specifically.

“I think Michigan is moving into the more solidly blue column in November... that may have factored into this too,” Bucholz said.

Whitmer performed well in Michigan just two years after Trump won it narrowly, and her approval rating in the state remains high. But Biden, too, is polling well here on his own. A polling average from Real Clear Politics shows Biden up by 6.3 points in the state.

Whitmer’s role as governor is increasingly important as states grapple with coronavirus.

Oakland University Professor of Political Science David Dulio points out that Whitmer being selected as the candidate for Vice President would have meant taking her away from the state in the middle of a pandemic.

“Every press conference she has given she has talked about her focus being on saving lives. If she were to up and leave, what would that say about her commitment to that?” Dulio said.

Adrian Hemond, Grassroots Midwest partner and CEO, said Monday that governors like Whitmer being so heavily involved in the coronavirus responses in their state would be hard to tear away from those positions.

“You’ll immediately be attacked for abandoning your state during the pandemic,” he said.

Harris brings diversity to the ticket.

The pressure was on for Biden to pick an African American woman, Dulio said.

“If he had not chosen an African American woman the risk of having not great turnout was significant. I think it’s more about keeping energy levels and excitement levels up rather than boosting them,” Dulio said.

Early in his run, Biden faltered in early states’ nominating contests until a big win among Black voters in South Carolina gave him momentum going into Super Tuesday, where he performed well and ultimately went on to win the necessary delegates for the nomination.

Since then, race and police brutality targeting African Americans has become an even more prominent feature of the presidential contest, particularly after the killing of George Floyd sparked protests nationally.

Harris, Dulio said, has something to offer Biden, “whether it’s firming up support in the Black community or with progressive base, maybe both.”

Whitmer’s name ID isn’t as strong

While Whitmer has spent this year climbing in the national consciousness -- from delivering the Democratic response to Trump’s State of the Union address to emerging as a Democratic foil to Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic -- Harris is a longer-established national figure.

She has served as a U.S. Senator since 2017 and had a memorable presidential run of her own in the party’s nominating contest earlier this year.

“Gretchen Whitmer did not play in the presidential debates. She didn’t have the kind of high-profile visibility that many of the other candidates did,” Bucholz said.

Athena Strategies President Abby Clark said nobody could dispute Harris’ qualifications. But she doesn’t see the Vice Presidential pick, generally, as swaying voters.

“It’s hard for me to picture the voter that was thinking of sitting out the election that this will make them go vote, or the voter that was not inclined to vote for Biden that this would change their mind,” Clark said.

Michigan remains a critical battleground state for the Trump campaign in 2020, but Democrats are hopeful his slim 11,000-vote margin means voters aren’t solidly behind the Republican president. Whitmer’s approval rating has remained high throughout the year, with a recent poll from EPIC-MRA finding she had a had 57% favorability, compared to Trump’s 41% and Biden’s 46%.

The Biden campaign promoted fundraising events planned around Biden’s selection this month, sending emails and texts to supporters promising “the first chance to hear directly from her.”

Whitmer was already scheduled to speak at the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday, Aug. 18, and another slot for the then-unnamed vice presidential nominee was slated for the following day.

Whitmer has been a loyal ally to Biden’s campaign in Michigan, offering her endorsement before the state’s Democratic primary in March. The governor joined Biden in several campaign stops on the eve of the election and has since appeared in multiple virtual events.

Republicans have criticized Whitmer for her appearances on national television networks during the COVID-19 pandemic, accusing the governor of ignoring her state in a time of crisis to audition for the vice presidency.
 
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