2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[StarkRavingMad]

They're both predicting that each will get an Obama-style 2008 landslide (he won with 365 that election). I just don't see that happening either way.

I think that if an electoral landslide happens, then it will be Trump who gets it. I just can't for the life of me see it with Biden. If Biden wins, I think it will be close. I just cannot see him with Obama numbers, though.

With Biden tanking in the polls and tanking with Democrat enthusiasm (and that's not even accounting for the fractured reaction within the party about Kamala Harris at this point in time), I just can't imagine Biden running away with the election. It's more likely for an incumbent to achieve that, and personally, I think that there is a lot going on in Trump's favor.

If I end up being wrong, then hey, I'm wrong. We'll see what happens. 2020 has been an absolute shitshow with no signs of letting up, so all bets are off as far as I'm concerned.

My prediction is that voter turnout is going to be awful for the Democrats in November. Among the Karens who don't want to go outside, the brat millennials who are still heartbroken about Comrade Bernie, the black vote that the Dems are slowly losing, and the ridiculously high enthusiasm among Republicans for Trump ... I just don't see Biden replicating what Obama did in 2008 or 2012.

 

[MrJokerRager]

There is no model that can accurately forecast the reality of this election environment. Neither the ones that have Trump winning nor the ones that have Biden winning. Disregard them all.

They're both predicting that each will get an Obama-style 2008 landslide (he won with 365 that election). I just don't see that happening either way.

Tucker said it 2 months ago that Trump or Biden will not get some grand FDR style landslide thanks to how polarized the country is along with changes in American life over the years.

 

[Harvey Danger]

aka, it's the perfect scenario for someone to steal the election.

I'm not stealing it, I'm just borrowing it, honest!

I think that if an electoral landslide happens, then it will be Trump who gets it. I just can't for the life of me see it with Biden. If Biden wins, I think it will be close. I just cannot see him with Obama numbers, though.

With Biden tanking in the polls and tanking with Democrat enthusiasm (and that's not even accounting for the fractured reaction within the party about Kamala Harris at this point in time), I just can't imagine Biden running away with the election. It's more likely for an incumbent to achieve that, and personally, I think that there is a lot going on in Trump's favor.

I can believe a landslide either way, but it requires a big screw-up on either side. Something like a 2nd complete lockdown for Covid, or Biden having a visible mental lapse during a televised debate, or leaked audio of Harris promising Pelosi to "purge the party" of progressives.

According to the Harvey Danger Armchair Pundit Model(tm), independents in the middle are looking for a reason not to vote for their currently selected candidate. They aren't sure whether Trump did a good job with Covid or not, they aren't sure what the economy will look like once everything is fully opened, they aren't sure if Biden (and now Harris) is bad enough to warrant staying home. There needs to be a narrative shift somewhere that one side can't fight down.

The good news for Trump is that he's a pro at fighting down the character attacks and general fake narratives. Biden's advantage is full media shielding. Harris is a wildcard here, though.

I want to see the polling on Democratic enthusiasm a full week out from the Harris announcement. That will tell us whether the angst about her harming the base is true or not.

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Has Trump picked his trademark nickname for Harris yet? If not, "Horrible Harris" would be devastating. Nobody could disagree with it, it's what her own side thinks, and it is literally, linguistically true.

I'm partial to "Sniff and Blow 2020", or "Heels Up Harris." Or "Pedo and Pajeet 2020" (though I know the last would never be actually said).

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I'm not stealing it, I'm just borrowing it, honest!

I can believe a landslide either way, but it requires a big screw-up on either side. Something like a 2nd complete lockdown for Covid, or Biden having a visible mental lapse during a televised debate, or leaked audio of Harris promising Pelosi to "purge the party" of progressives.

According to the Harvey Danger Armchair Pundit Model(tm), independents in the middle are looking for a reason not to vote for their currently selected candidate. They aren't sure whether Trump did a good job with Covid or not, they aren't sure what the economy will look like once everything is fully opened, they aren't sure if Biden (and now Harris) is bad enough to warrant staying home. There needs to be a narrative shift somewhere that one side can't fight down.

The good news for Trump is that he's a pro at fighting down the character attacks and general fake narratives. Biden's advantage is full media shielding. Harris is a wildcard here, though.

I want to see the polling on Democratic enthusiasm a full week out from the Harris announcement. That will tell us whether the angst about her harming the base is true or not.

If there's one thing that Trump is fantastic at, it's getting people to hate his opponents. If what you're saying is accurate about independent voters, then Trump is going to have an easier time gaining their votes than Biden will.

That said, I believe you're correct. The election could totally go either way, and it's going to depend on how badly either candidate screws up on something.

 

[Lolcow Imperium]

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progressives are not pleased

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

 

[Maamtis]

It's impossible to predict anything

It'll be very close

Both sides expect to win


aka, it's the perfect scenario for someone to steal the election.

It just so happens that this is also the perfect scenario for selling newspapers.

We're fucked as a society.

I honestly think the Democrats talk is just that. They're trying so desperately to get voters excited for Biden and create a bandwagon factor. Nothing I've seen suggests Biden has much chance of winning.

 

[Shroom King]

Just putting this archive here again in case CNN memory holes it.


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"If it wasn't for school busing, Obama never would have been President!"

Wait, are you trying to convince me that school busing was a GOOD thing?

What a dumbass. I hope Sleepy Joe shows his dick to her on national TV in a fit of horny dementia.

 

[heyitsmike]

They're trying so desperately to get voters excited for Biden and create a bandwagon factor.

While the Dems are generally stupid as all get out, they're smart enough to understand that getting people excited about Biden is a non starter. They are counting on Trump hate to drive turnout. They go through the motions that suggest otherwise, but deep down they know no one is or will ever be excited for Biden.

Normally that wouldn't even get close to working. But I've never see people who are so pathologically obsessed with hating a specific person before. Their entire existence revolves around their compulsion to hate Trump. So it is conceivable that for once Democrat voters actually follow through with something.

 

[Shroom King]

Genuine question is Pence actually competent? He's been so low profile so far that I know almost nothing about his abilities

Pence is fucking BASED. He suspended Syrian refugee settlement in Indiana when he was governor there, and a federal judge got assblasted about it and sent a federal injunction against him.

Judge: Pence can't block aid to Syrian refugees

At question is whether Pence has the authority to stop federal dollars that flow through the state to help refugees resettle in Indiana.

eu.indystar.com

 

[RockPaper]

I think that if an electoral landslide happens, then it will be Trump who gets it. I just can't for the life of me see it with Biden. If Biden wins, I think it will be close. I just cannot see him with Obama numbers, though.

Me neither. Enthusiasm from Trump's base is just too high, and turnout will be too good on his side for Biden to win decisively.

I didn't even vote for Trump in 2016, and I'd drag my balls across broken glass to get to the polls this time.

 

[jje100010001]

Has Trump picked his trademark nickname for Harris yet? If not, "Horrible Harris" would be devastating. Nobody could disagree with it, it's what her own side thinks, and it is literally, linguistically true.

I'm partial to "Sniff and Blow 2020", or "Heels Up Harris." Or "Pedo and Pajeet 2020" (though I know the last would never be actually said).

 

[Salubrious]

Get your rainbows out, but Trump won because he managed to turn Wisconsin, Michican, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida all red.

Maybe Florida turns blue again (who the fuck knows), but Biden would still need one more. Three more if Florida stays Red.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Get your rainbows out, but Trump won because he managed to turn Wisconsin, Michican, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida all red.

Maybe Florida turns blue again (who the fuck knows), but Biden would still need one more. Three more if Florida stays Red.

If Trump gets Florida and Ohio, he would only need to keep one of the other three red to get him to 270 electoral votes, as demonstrated by the attached map (made in yapms).

 

[Salubrious]

If Trump gets Florida and Ohio, he would only need to keep one of the other three red to get him to 270 electoral votes, as demonstrated by the attached map (made in yapms).

Yeah, realistically Biden needs to win Florida or he's fucked.

Even Florida isn't enough on it's own.

 

[Harvey Danger]

He's not wrong.

link / archive

 

[UselessIdiot]

While the Dems are generally stupid as all get out, they're smart enough to understand that getting people excited about Biden is a non starter. They are counting on Trump hate to drive turnout. They go through the motions that suggest otherwise, but deep down they know no one is or will ever be excited for Biden.

Normally that wouldn't even get close to working. But I've never see people who are so pathologically obsessed with hating a specific person before. Their entire existence revolves around their compulsion to hate Trump. So it is conceivable that for once Democrat voters actually follow through with something.

If you asked them how exactly their lives have gotten worse under Trump, they wouldn't be a able to give you a good answer. 2017 to the start of this were good overall, only COVID and the riots were negatives, but that's not Trump -- even though they still blame him anyway.

They're so obsessed with every -ism and -phobia that they'll just let the mainstream media dictate their emotions entirely. They can never admit that they have disastrous policies either.

 

[General Disarray]

I recall hearing somebody saying "Chameleon Harris" mocking the idea that her views are shifting frequently.

Comma comma comma chameleon - you come and go, you come and go!!

 

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If Trump gets Florida and Ohio, he would only need to keep one of the other three red to get him to 270 electoral votes, as demonstrated by the attached map (made in yapms).
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Will any of those red states having now joined Soros's Popular Vote Interstate Compact scheme have flipped blue because of it?