The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Seems HFLong22 isn't quite there yet...
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"Hasn't the poor man been beaten down enough?"
I personally consider it "training." If you want to make a professional cartoon, then overly harsh criticism from a toxic fanbase comes with the territory. If you can't handle one snob making a shitpost, how do you expect to process a hatedom on the scale of, say, Steven Universe's?

And I'm not fond of the idea that you can't criticize someone's work just because they're apparently "weak and sensitive." Okay, putting aside the fact that a pretentious critic on the Internet has no right to be "weak and sensitive" about anything, what standard does that set? How much bigger and more popular does someone need to be before the public says "Okay, NOW we can bash everything he does?" On a scale of "homeless man on the street" to "U.S. President," tell me honestly.

They're shitting their collective frilly panties over THAT softball? Mild parody, often using Enter's own words?

What a bunch of little bitches.

 

[DickMain]

Seems HFLong22 isn't quite there yet...
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"Hasn't the poor man been beaten down enough?"
I personally consider it "training." If you want to make a professional cartoon, then overly harsh criticism from a toxic fanbase comes with the territory. If you can't handle one snob making a shitpost, how do you expect to process a hatedom on the scale of, say, Steven Universe's?

And I'm not fond of the idea that you can't criticize someone's work just because they're apparently "weak and sensitive." Okay, putting aside the fact that a pretentious critic on the Internet has no right to be "weak and sensitive" about anything, what standard does that set? How much bigger and more popular does someone need to be before the public says "Okay, NOW we can bash everything he does?" On a scale of "homeless man on the street" to "U.S. President," tell me honestly.

I didn't realize Enter had hit the big time enough to have these. Or are they just describing somebody down at enter's own level

 

[New age retro hippie]

Seems HFLong22 isn't quite there yet...
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"Hasn't the poor man been beaten down enough?"
I personally consider it "training." If you want to make a professional cartoon, then overly harsh criticism from a toxic fanbase comes with the territory. If you can't handle one snob making a shitpost, how do you expect to process a hatedom on the scale of, say, Steven Universe's?

And I'm not fond of the idea that you can't criticize someone's work just because they're apparently "weak and sensitive." Okay, putting aside the fact that a pretentious critic on the Internet has no right to be "weak and sensitive" about anything, what standard does that set? How much bigger and more popular does someone need to be before the public says "Okay, NOW we can bash everything he does?" On a scale of "homeless man on the street" to "U.S. President," tell me honestly.

Those comments are both amazing and confusing. I hoped for HF to be the hero we deserved but he seems to still be fully pro Enter, unless that "brave" was ironic.
But the second part of his message and Plazma Cube's message about "food and right or something" make me raise an eyebrow: those guys can post in chat because they0re his patrons aren't tehy? they're paying Enter but they don't even watch his videos?

It's also pretty amusing seeing Cube just going "i hated this thing even before watching it" like chill dude, you don't need to indoctrinate yourself.


Regarding the actual question about spectators-creator relationship, I think that any kind of public figure should be open to criticism, even harsh criticism, but not harassement.
For example, writing on a public social media page, or even sending a message to that page that says: "this thing you made sucks", it's fair game, stalking them IRL or their private profile and writing "you should die" and symilar, not.

Another deciding factor is the content and the intent. I may find Enter's reviews shitty and not informative, and those certainly have had an (I feel negative) impact on the animation community. I mean, Enter may not be too big but he was referenced by some big names, like Pan Pizza nd Pieguyrulez, and he's the guy that single handedly made the phrase "mean-spirited" basically a slur in the animation world, so his reviews are, in y eye, deserving of criticism but nothing more.
But his political videos are rightfully deserving of way, way harsher criticism. His supporters may like to frame the issue about people being "too polarized" but the truth is that Enter's video about healthcare is advocating for a system that favors big companies while taking power away from the poor, the people that need healthcare the most; is not used by basically any other first world country in the world and would cost the people way less than the sistem the USA's currently using. And he doesn't even give reasons outside of "it's complicated" or the borderline american-exceptionalism reason "America's just different from other nations".
And he himself admitted a few pics over that he hoped for his extremely toxic Covid video to change people's perception on how to treat the diesease (so doing nothing), so he's deserving all the criticism possible for trying to voluntarly feed his audience misinformation.

Regarding, more specifically, Enter's mental state, I'd say he (and his fans) are using his autism as an unwarranted protective shield. As someone who actually worked with people with heavy mental handycaps, and saw how much they were able to understand the world around them, i'd say Mr Enter has a basically normal mind and should be treathed as any regular content creator. He's fully able to organize his day, he can manage his financial indipendency, he can drive (I guess? does he have a license or is he like his idol Spongebob in that regard?) and so on so, while I don't think it's acceptable to use his autism as an insult, i really don't see why it should be considered while criticizing Mr Enter's work.

Riddle me this, would Enter be that petty enough to try and claim copyright over claymore’s video?

He said he doesn't even watch response videos to his content, so my guess is that he won't even see it and just pretend it doesn't exist.

Really enjoyed Mr Enter's voice clips being used for Robert, and all the sign jokes. Really wasn't expecting Cosmodore to be referenced there lol.

 

[Jumbo Gay Threat]

Those comments are both amazing and confusing. I hoped for HF to be the hero we deserved but he seems to still be fully pro Enter, unless that "brave" was ironic.
But the second part of his message and Plazma Cube's message about "food and right or something" make me raise an eyebrow: those guys can post in chat because they0re his patrons aren't tehy? they're paying Enter but they don't even watch his videos?

It's also pretty amusing seeing Cube just going "i hated this thing even before watching it" like chill dude, you don't need to indoctrinate yourself.


Regarding the actual question about spectators-creator relationship, I think that any kind of public figure should be open to criticism, even harsh criticism, but not harassement.
For example, writing on a public social media page, or even sending a message to that page that says: "this thing you made sucks", it's fair game, stalking them IRL or their private profile and writing "you should die" and symilar, not.

Another deciding factor is the content and the intent. I may find Enter's reviews shitty and not informative, and those certainly have had an (I feel negative) impact on the animation community. I mean, Enter may not be too big but he was referenced by some big names, like Pan Pizza nd Pieguyrulez, and he's the guy that single handedly made the phrase "mean-spirited" basically a slur in the animation world, so his reviews are, in y eye, deserving of criticism but nothing more.
But his political videos are rightfully deserving of way, way harsher criticism. His supporters may like to frame the issue about people being "too polarized" but the truth is that Enter's video about healthcare is advocating for a system that favors big companies while taking power away from the poor, the people that need healthcare the most; is not used by basically any other first world country in the world and would cost the people way less than the sistem the USA's currently using. And he doesn't even give reasons outside of "it's complicated" or the borderline american-exceptionalism reason "America's just different from other nations".
And he himself admitted a few pics over that he hoped for his extremely toxic Covid video to change people's perception on how to treat the diesease (so doing nothing), so he's deserving all the criticism possible for trying to voluntarly feed his audience misinformation.

Regarding, more specifically, Enter's mental state, I'd say he (and his fans) are using his autism as an unwarranted protective shield. As someone who actually worked with people with heavy mental handycaps, and saw how much they were able to understand the world around them, i'd say Mr Enter has a basically normal mind and should be treathed as any regular content creator. He's fully able to organize his day, he can manage his financial indipendency, he can drive (I guess? does he have a license or is he like his idol Spongebob in that regard?) and so on so, while I don't think it's acceptable to use his autism as an insult, i really don't see why it should be considered while criticizing Mr Enter's work.



He said he doesn't even watch response videos to his content, so my guess is that he won't even see it and just pretend it doesn't exist.

Really enjoyed Mr Enter's voice clips being used for Robert, and all the sign jokes. Really wasn't expecting Cosmodore to be referenced there lol.

True but I do remember him getting pissy at mentioning MarsReviews video on him and the same with turkey tom‘s, so there is that to keep in mind.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Regarding the actual question about spectators-creator relationship, I think that any kind of public figure should be open to criticism, even harsh criticism, but not harassement.
For example, writing on a public social media page, or even sending a message to that page that says: "this thing you made sucks", it's fair game, stalking them IRL or their private profile and writing "you should die" and symilar, not.

To be fair, that's kind of why Kiwi Farms simply existing pisses off so many cows. We live in an age where children are told they're special simply for existing and participation, so they aren't conditioned for the harsh reality of life.

Regarding, more specifically, Enter's mental state, I'd say he (and his fans) are using his autism as an unwarranted protective shield. As someone who actually worked with people with heavy mental handycaps, and saw how much they were able to understand the world around them, i'd say Mr Enter has a basically normal mind and should be treathed as any regular content creator. He's fully able to organize his day, he can manage his financial indipendency, he can drive (I guess? does he have a license or is he like his idol Spongebob in that regard?) and so on so, while I don't think it's acceptable to use his autism as an insult, i really don't see why it should be considered while criticizing Mr Enter's work.

In a way, Enter's current mental state probably is the net result of him largely being a shut in without any positive external influences (and by that I mean people who can actually tell him when he's fucked up and he doesn't sperg out about it) having to contend with the constant 'stimulation' of our current world.

You know, the one that's currently on proverbial fire given the pandemic and an irrationally large amount of bullshit beyond the norm.

Honestly, I think the main thing is that he's set himself up in a way he doesn't like - the world's burning and people keep asking about his opinions on things. Things he genuinely doesn't care about and doesn't want to talk about, much like the pandemic given his stance is to ignore the fuck out of the thing that's reportedly killed 150k+ Americans at this point. At the same time, I think he's beginning to stall out so hard on GA simply not being a thing and he doesn't want to admit it.

 

[The Grimace]

i almost feel kinda bad for the guy

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

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"I really loved this episode! I liked the message, and how each bit ties back into the character's arcs! I just wish there was more of it!"
"I'm not in a state of mind to be dealing with criticism right now. Fuck off."
"...oh alright..."

You had one fan who's not giving you any harsh criticism whatsoever, wants more GA, and is actively talking about how good your show is, and you still squandered it and started pitching a fit at him. I like how he even acknowledged the actual criticism part by saying it could've had more substance, and then proceeds with the "fuck-off" response after the guy talked about how good it was.

I'm still wondering what Enter's goal even is anymore: he hates when people talk about his show, he hates when people don't talk about his show, he hates when people praise him, he hates when people berate him, he hates when people are talking about him, he hates when people aren't talking about him.

Again I ask, why even have the Discord in the first fuckin' place?

 

[66andtwothirds]

"I really loved this episode! I liked the message, and how each bit ties back into the character's arcs! I just wish there was more of it!"
"I'm not in a state of mind to be dealing with criticism right now. Fuck off."
"...oh alright..."

You had one fan who's not giving you any harsh criticism whatsoever, wants more GA, and is actively talking about how good your show is, and you still squandered it and started pitching a fit at him. I like how he even acknowledged the actual criticism part by saying it could've had more substance, and then proceeds with the "fuck-off" response after the guy talked about how good it was.

I'm still wondering what Enter's goal even is anymore: he hates when people talk about his show, he hates when people don't talk about his show, he hates when people praise him, he hates when people berate him, he hates when people are talking about him, he hates when people aren't talking about him.

Again I ask, why even have the Discord in the first fuckin' place?

well he painted himself into a corner of having to use discord since he hates DA and his website has been left to rot.

 

[Full Race Replay]

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"I wish there was more" is one of the biggest praises you can get. This guy worded it more negatively than usual but Enter should be taking it as a compliment.

 

[Optimus Prime]

"I wish there was more" is one of the biggest praises you can get. This guy worded it more negatively than usual but Enter should be taking it as a compliment.

I wonder if part of it is that Enter is so conditioned to everybody criticizing the fuck out of GA that a dude literally sucking his dick while singing GA's praises would sound like criticism.

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

Spoiler: Comments from Latest Video

His fans are interested in seeing actual content from it, and he's gone a full month without uploading a review, two months without finishing a Top 10 list of all things, months without doing another Growing Around commentary and has made absolutely zero progress on Growing Around itself since that really short animatic. He made a one hour video over this pandemic yet couldn't make a 20 minute review over a show he's probably seen before.

After Nick-O-Rama, Enter has made 14 videos on his main channel. Only six of those videos have had anything to do with animation. That's less than half. The other eight videos have been political rants/streams and one part to a Top 10 list that doesn't relate to cartoons. The best way to fracture your audience and gain more negative attention is to discuss politics.

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"But that's the only negative thing I can say about it: it didn't feel rushed or anything; it just felt like maybe there could have been more." I don't know who reads that and mixes it with criticism. He's basically saying, "I like this script so much, I just wish it was longer so that I could enjoy more of it."

I'm still wondering what Enter's goal even is anymore: he hates when people talk about his show, he hates when people don't talk about his show, he hates when people praise him, he hates when people berate him, he hates when people are talking about him, he hates when people aren't talking about him.

Enter always sounds annoyed when talking about Growing Around, which is incredibly bizarre. You'd expect an autistic person to enjoy talking about their projects, especially ones they've put a lot of "effort" into. Although, Enter's autism clearly shows with his refusal to change stuff. Rather than get rid of the rampant cross-dressing, he chooses to add more. Rather than make Sally less of a worse Mabel Pines, he tries to come up with superficial examples of them being different. It's like he's aware of the problems, but thinks talking about them will make everyone lose faith in his project, so he does nothing to remedy them.

If I had to guess why Enter hates getting both praise and criticism (or questions that show people are interested in him and his content), I would say because it puts pressure on him. When people constantly say bad things about Growing Around, it puts heavy pressure on Enter to just stop progressing with it for a while. When people say good things about Growing Around, it puts pressure on him because he thinks he'll have to work even harder to make (for example) better scripts. That's a stretch though, and even if it were accurate, both of those things should be motivating him to actively work on his project; they shouldn't motivate him to actively push it back, like what he's been doing with the second part of his Top 10 Advertising Campaigns list.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

If I had to guess why Enter hates getting both praise and criticism (or questions that show people are interested in him and his content), I would say because it puts pressure on him. When people constantly say bad things about Growing Around, it puts heavy pressure on Enter to just stop progressing with it for a while. When people say good things about Growing Around, it puts pressure on him because he thinks he'll have to work even harder to make (for example) better scripts. That's a stretch though, and even if it were accurate, both of those things should be motivating him to actively work on his project; they shouldn't motivate him to actively push it back, like what he's been doing with the second part of his Top 10 Advertising Campaigns list.

That's just what depression does most of the time. It takes every option you consider and makes each of them as stressful and unappealing as possible to convince you that you're better off just doing nothing. Do people hate your work? Don't bother improving, because they'll just find something else to hate you for. Do people love your work? Quit now before the inevitable downward spiral kicks in. And then not doing anything just feeds your depression even more, because your life has less and less meaning as the months go by. Sulking only begets more sulking. I'm absolutely certain that if Enter just kept making videos on a regular schedule, his depression wouldn't overpower him so often.

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

That's just what depression does most of the time. It takes every option you consider and makes each of them as stressful and unappealing as possible to convince you that you're better off just doing nothing. Do people hate your work? Don't bother improving, because they'll just find something else to hate you for. Do people love your work? Quit now before the inevitable downward spiral kicks in. And then not doing anything just feeds your depression even more, because your life has less and less meaning as the months go by. Sulking only begets more sulking. I'm absolutely certain that if Enter just kept making videos on a regular schedule, his depression wouldn't overpower him so often.

I'd say more so that he needs to make more positive videos (or content in general) rather than a constant stream of negative ones, to bring some degree of tonal balance in his life. Among his last 36 videos, for example, 29 of them were incredibly negative; if it wasn't moaning about the pandemic, it was getting upset over cartoons he saw one or two episodes of.

Completely getting rid of Admirable Animations is just going to make any depression issues he has worse, because now his job revolves around nothing but the negatives. In terms of reviewing, all he's going to be doing is stuff he doesn't like. His anger was the slightest bit chiller a bit before the Indiegogo began, but after it failed, Enter's been sinking back to the level of unnecessary anger that made him infamous in the first place.

With Growing Around, we've seen how he treats anyone showing interest in the show. Not to mention how for the commentary he did, a lot of it was him explaining how pilots are bad ideas and complaining about the audience not being able to suspend their disbelief; he barely talks about the actual episode in an enthusiastic manner. It feels more like a weight on his shoulders than a passion project. With the Discord server, Enter doing nothing about that fetish art (he complimented it) until after it was complained about really shows how his care about the image of his show is getting lower. And I think we know enough about his fear of questions.

He's continuing with these long and constant political rants (hypocritical how he discourages political discussions in his Discord), which are obviously going to cause splits between his fans. Not to mention how some of his fans have left/are leaving him because they're not at all interested in his political takes. Especially now of all times, when people are trying to seek positive content to deal with this situation. He's doing every possible thing to get less and less viewers.

What even makes Enter happy anymore aside from cross-dressing boys? Most of what he does comes from spite now, like his initial plan for the 1001 Games book:

 

[Optimus Prime]

A note about the therapy thing, all things considered.

Its possible he doesn't want to see a therapist purely because doing so would suggest in his head that he's lost progress, and given his depressive state that certainly doesn't help matters. He may not realize that therapy sometimes is something people need for their entire lives.

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City of Heroes offline? Pfff. That's because he's too lazy an ass to know that game's actually been back online for a while after the secret servers were made public.

r/Cityofheroes

r/Cityofheroes:

www.reddit.com

I actually did download it and yeah - it's the ENTIRE game + all the bonus content.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

What even makes Enter happy anymore aside from cross-dressing boys? Most of what he does comes from spite now, like his initial plan for the 1001 Games book:
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His massive hate-boner for that book is one of the most confusing things to me. It's a kind of obscure book. He's mad because it doesn't have his specific favorites on it when a book of this nature is just naturally gonna be opinion based. (The specific part he's complaining about there isn't even true, City of Heroes is online.) He apparently bought two editions of this thing he inexplicably despises. He's tried numerous times to either rewrite it or review it and constantly falls through on that. And he's been obsessing over it for years, he's been mad at this thing since before Growing Around existed, I think he was bitching at it back when all he did were pony reviews. I get that the 'Tism makes him fixate on dumb shit, but god damn.

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

His massive hate-boner for that book is one of the most confusing things to me. It's a kind of obscure book. He's mad because it doesn't have his specific favorites on it when a book of this nature is just naturally gonna be opinion based. (The specific part he's complaining about there isn't even true, City of Heroes is online.) He apparently bought two editions of this thing he inexplicably despises. He's tried numerous times to either rewrite it or review it and constantly falls through on that. And he's been obsessing over it for years, he's been mad at this thing since before Growing Around existed, I think he was bitching at it back when all he did were pony reviews. I get that the 'Tism makes him fixate on dumb shit, but god damn.

It's also one of the dumbest ideas for a book that I've ever seen. Nobody has time to play that many games, especially when at least one of them is an MMO. The list is too long to be of any possible use and I'm guessing that it's written by some nobody. What kind of idiot reads this crap? ... Oh, right.

 

[The Grimace]

I'm somehow not surprised at all that one of Enter's top cocksuckers is a furfag

 

[Just_a_Bored_Guy]

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What does that picture that Sdfdf posted say?

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

What does that picture that Sdfdf posted say?

If I remember right, they were trying to give Enter some advice on his mental health, and Enter replied with a near-automatic "Do not ever PM me."

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

If I remember right, they were trying to give Enter some advice on his mental health, and Enter replied with a near-automatic "Do not ever PM me."

"Don't TELL me...how to go to therapy."