2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[heyitsmike]

If Biden has to get on stage with Trump, even once, he's toast. He's fucking toast.

 

[Lodoss Warrior]

Dr. Grande just did a video on whether, or not Biden has dementia.

tl;dr-Biden might be stupid, but he's not suffering from dementia. He'd be functioning a lot worse if he was.

A lukewarm, but realistic, take on Biden. Grande's fairly apolitical, so it doesn't seem to me like he'd have an incentive to spin Biden's observed mistakes one way or another.

I might disagree with his statement on Biden's youth, however: Looking through old videos of his senatorial and vice presidential years, he's far more eleoquent and quick-witted than now. This, however, could be explained by general aging.

Since we simply haven't seen Biden in a private setting, it's not fair to say he's straight up demented.

It is fair to say that he can't handle pressure well, and is too tired to realistically run the Executive branch, however.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

I'm firmly of the opinion that you shouldn't trust the polls, especially with a contentious president like Trump, that said, that doesn't mean that a CNN poll(that is typically biased in favor of the Democrats) showing Trump within the margin of error isn't cause for some small amount of excitement.

CNN's poll has historically been among the worst ones, though. Even looking at the recent results of the poll... +4 Biden, +14 Biden, +5 Biden, +11 Biden. You can't determine anything from that.

 

[Puff]

Trump is literally the only one even trying a ground game. Biden's campaign is going full virtual.

Even so, yes, everyone should get out to vote. In person if possible, don't trust the USPS this time around.

I know I'm replying late but why? WHY? The Dems biggest advantage is their ground game!

 

[Girlboy69]

If Biden has to get on stage with Trump, even once, he's toast. He's fucking toast.
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Maybe he was distracted, thinking about that WAP.

 

[Kartoshki]

Sorry if it's been asked before, but I'm too lazy to read all 300+ pages of this thread: What's the over-under Of a rigged election in favor of Biden just so he can die and we're forced to have eight years of Yas Queen Negress?

 

[Harvey Danger]

I know I'm replying late but why? WHY? The Dems biggest advantage is their ground game!

My theory is they spent 4 months scaremongering everyone that leaving your house kills grandmothers, and face-to-face meetings were things only evil maskless Republicans do. Their base might actually react negatively to being met by someone who wants to stand nearby and talk politics.

It could also be a money issue. Ground game requires lots of organization at the state level, and even if you have volunteers that organization still costs money. The Democrats were hurting and in debt this year even before Biden got the nomination.

Finally, it could be hubris. Remember that this is the side that bragged about how modern and tech-savvy Obama was for jumping into bed with Big Data. All those antiquated Republicans with their direct-mail empires were no match for nerds with hyper-targeted ads on Facebook! The fully virtual campaign is just the next progression of the Hip New Modern Democrat.

Keep in mind that they could still be right. The country spent most of the year re-focusing our lives around online communications and behavior. It may actually be time for virtual outreach to become as important as in-person outreach. Especially if people will be low-effort voting via mail.

The left is desperate to make the entire political process become something you participate in without ever leaving your home. You are advertised to in your home, you "meet" the candidates over video chat, you exercise your voting power from your couch. It's the laziest form of politics possible, fitting for the side who conflates Likes with clout and meaningful agreement.

 

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I know I'm replying late but why? WHY? The Dems biggest advantage is their ground game!

Easy. The COVID19 hoax. It stops Trump's ground game and his rallies, making him vulnerable to fake news and big tech's censorship. And if they can get mail in voting + ballot harvesting, they can rig elections AT WILL.

 

[Polyboros2]

Sorry if it's been asked before, but I'm too lazy to read all 300+ pages of this thread: What's the over-under Of a rigged election in favor of Biden just so he can die and we're forced to have eight years of Yas Queen Negress?

If I were a betting man, I'd of put more than I could spare on her being the pick. She seemed to be the party Elites chosen stooge early on, and not one to be influenced by the will of democracy, the Democratic party plans to sneak her in the back through the senile old man they used to beat the senile old commie.

It's why there has been the delay. Even now it's a bad idea to put a cop in a blue ticket, but it was an even worse one last month.

How they got the Bernie Bros complacent with this, I don't know. Maybe they're too distracted with enacting violence in the streets.

Now the interesting part. When do they pull the switcheroo. It's Biden not going to the convention cause he's not accepting the nomination? Will he step down and the party quickly hand it off to Harris and hope the media surge suppresses the outrage? Are they hoping their radical anti-cop commie clique will be too battered, bruised, tear gassed, and arrested to tear their walls down? Will it be between accepting the nomination and the first debate? They are clearly terrified of Biden on stage with Trump. Or will the keep the charade up past election day and only pull rip off that band-aid if the unlikely happens? Will it be pre or post inauguration?

 

[heyitsmike]

Will it be between accepting the nomination and the first debate?

If it happens, it will have to be then. It always had to be then. Because if not, Bernie would claim he was the rightful nominee since he had the second most amount of delegates.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

How they got the Bernie Bros complacent with this, I don't know. Maybe they're too distracted with enacting violence in the streets.

People that support that cuck at this point are political cucks. They're the RINOs of the progressive movement. They'll say a bunch of shit but accept their whippings like good little bugmen.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

Now the interesting part. When do they pull the switcheroo. It's Biden not going to the convention cause he's not accepting the nomination? Will he step down and the party quickly hand it off to Harris and hope the media surge suppresses the outrage?

If this scenario happens, it would be after the election when it's forced to be the VP. If it's before, then it's up to the DNC to choose someone, who will be Kamala and not Bernie, which will lead to more bitching and in-fighting than ever.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Sounds a little far fetched to me. Even by modern Democrat standards.

Biden is the candidate, I don't think there will be any funny business at the convention. They'll keep him out of the limelight as much as possible to prevent any more...incidents.

Harris was just the best pick of a bad lot, I don't particularly think the DNC loves her it's just that they have no one of quality to match the promise their senile leader spouted on national TV.

If Biden does happen to shuffle off this mortal coil before the election then I think Harris will lose and lose badly as the top billet. So they keep Biden in a safe bubble to both protect and gag him.

Fuck knows how it will go if Biden does win and then kicks the bucket...a Harris presidency would-be scary as all fuck in my view.

 

[Polyboros2]

Harris was just the best pick of a bad lot

Harris was a terrible choice outside of the party elite. With all the ACAB stuff running around, her shitty record as a DA will be easy fodder for Team Trump. He doesn't need to win them over, just make them not want to vote.

If this scenario happens, it would be after the election when it's forced to be the VP. If it's before, then it's up to the DNC to choose someone, who will be Kamala and not Bernie, which will lead to more bitching and in-fighting than ever.

I'm not sure about that. It's a horrible idea, and I'm really surprised Bernie Bros aren't more riled up, but Biden at the debates is also awful for their chances. I think I theorized it here before, but my prediction is Biden comes up with some reason to nott go to the first debate, like minor illness, states that he has full faith in Harris as a leader, otherwise he wouldn't of chosen her to replace him if he died, and she debates Trump. Then, if they can get a positive reaction to that, Biden's "illness"(or hell they straight up give him Covid and claim Trump tried to kill him by mishandling the virus response) worsens, and he drops out and gives the nomination to Harris. It's a terrible move, but Biden can't handle a softball interview at the moment.

 

[XYZpdq]

So with Bernie talking tonight, is that to show off the commie wing or the sellout wing?

 

[heyitsmike]

I'm super conflicted about what I think the Dems will do. Biden has worms in the brain. Expecting him to survive three debates with Trump is like a poker player needing runner runner runner to win a hand. I'm absolutely certain that it's Obama pulling the strings behind the scenes. Him more than anyone else knows how inept Biden is. I guarantee you he doesn't believe Biden can hit on the flop and on the turn and on the river.

At the same time, saying they will swap him with Kamala would be predicting something totally unprecedented. Predicting things to happen that have never happened before usually does not end well. After all, there is a reason it hadn't before. But if they don't, Biden will have to do three debates against this guy:

So I don't know what they're gonna do and they probably don't yet either.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Harris was a terrible choice outside of the party elite. With all the ACAB stuff running around, her shitty record as a DA will be easy fodder for Team Trump. He doesn't need to win them over, just make them not want to vote.



I'm not sure about that. It's a horrible idea, and I'm really surprised Bernie Bros aren't more riled up, but Biden at the debates is also awful for their chances. I think I theorized it here before, but my prediction is Biden comes up with some reason to nott go to the first debate, like minor illness, states that he has full faith in Harris as a leader, otherwise he wouldn't of chosen her to replace him if he died, and she debates Trump. Then, if they can get a positive reaction to that, Biden's "illness"(or hell they straight up give him Covid and claim Trump tried to kill him by mishandling the virus response) worsens, and he drops out and gives the nomination to Harris. It's a terrible move, but Biden can't handle a softball interview at the moment.

The problem is that any of their options are bad for their chances, and were it not for the media and Silicon Valley going above and beyond to run interference for the DNC and the Coronavirus lockdowns and economic turmoil, Trump would have it in the bag.

If they completely cancel all the debates, Trump will tweet about it and try to rile up the public and raise suspicions. He knows a debate with Biden will help him win and refusing to even try to have a single debate with him will bruise his notoriously large ego.

My best guess is that they'll probably have at least one debate between Trump and Biden and try to keep it as softball as possible for Biden and lay more kafka traps for Trump.

Depending on just how bad Biden's gaffes and senile ramblings are on the first big debate, they'll probably issue a statement to cancel further debates and cite health concerns. If Trump is smart about it, he'll let them have the win of cancelling the second and third debates with Biden but only if they let the VP debates happen.

If the VP debates happen and Pence makes sure to invoke Kamala's history as a cop and a DA or her punitive policies in California, it will probably do more damage for the Dems in November than Biden flubbing the first debate would. If Pence also makes sure to bring up the fact that she grew up wealthy and that her family were slave owners in Jamaica in addition to all the cop stuff, then she is going to be BTFO by Pence even harder than she was by Tulsi.

A Biden screwup on the first debate combined with Pence pummeling Kamala in the VP debates with the publicly available knowledge of her past will do a lot to boost the odds in Trump's favor

The "new normal" propaganda throughout 2020 is happening too fast, too hard, and too quickly and Trump can use that to his advantage if he's smart about it. He needs to use that campaign warchest of his to buy lots of ads on TV and online, and to ensure that he gets the debates to happen.

CNN is all in against Trump, but they are hurting financially worse than any of the other major news outlets. Trump using the warchest to just buy up space for a lot of campaign ads on CNN and putting that money in the right places could help him a lot since it's more likely to reach the "normie" low-information and moderate voters who still think Fox News is the same as it was in 2004.

I think CNN is in bad enough shape that they'll likely let Trump buy the ad space just so they can have a fresh infusion of money but he'll have to pay sticker price, especially for the more important things like debates. Maybe he can haggle for the more low-rating graveyard slots, but that's it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't AT&T/Warner divest from CNN fairly recently because they became too much of a money sink?

 

[heyitsmike]

Never quit Never Trump Republicans, never quit.

She was a Representative from New York from 1990-1997. Her father held the seat immediately before her.

You can always depend on the Never Trumpers to completely underwhelm at whatever it is they try to hype up.

Seriously, do they actually think this will swing the election to Biden?

 

[Xerxes IX]

Kamala Harris becoming the VP candidate/potential real presidential candidate is what all the identity politics craziness has been leading up to. The question now is if what Harris is will trump (lol) what she's done. Will they be able to bury all her criticism under accusations that critics just don't like her because she's a black/indian woman? The media is definitely running interference for her along those lines. This election's also going to be referendum on identity politics.

 

[Meat Target]

Fuck knows how it will go if Biden does win and then kicks the bucket...a Harris presidency would-be scary as all fuck in my view.

I can easily see Cameltoe becoming the American Robert Mugabe. Except she's a Stunning And Brave Queen, so she will never be criticized.