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I wonder what it’s going to do to the immune system of the current crop of young kids in school. You need exposure to germs to build up your immune system. Kids being muzzled with masks and banned from hanging out with their friends or playing outside in the dirt and on playgrounds is going to do more harm than good. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see cases of allergies and auto immune disorders surge even more than now because of healthy kids being deprived of germ exposure. Just vaccinate your kids and keep them from germs and viruses that could make them severely ill.

Sorry for the autism this is just something that has been on my mind. I am not a health expert so maybe someone could weigh in on this matter.
Actually you're totally right about this. I highly recommend Ed Yong's book "I Contain Multitudes" if you want to learn more about this sort of thing, but the specific takeaway here is the you hit it right on the money. Kid who aren't exposed to germs don't build that immunity, and it leads to them having worse allergies later in life.
It's also worth pointing out that staying cooped up indoors is pretty harmful as well, because even something as simple as opening a window and getting fresh air actually makes a noticeable difference in your physical health. This isn't just because fresh air good, but also because it lets in new germs from the outside so your whole house doesn't get taken over by what's in there already.
 
I'm just worried about the precedent this is going to set. Is every future outbreak going to result in self-destructing the economy and muzzling/isolating ourselves for six months? Because that future sounds pretty shitty.

The only light at the end is at least most folks will now understand how shut-ins feel

Actually you're totally right about this. I highly recommend Ed Yong's book "I Contain Multitudes" if you want to learn more about this sort of thing, but the specific takeaway here is the you hit it right on the money. Kid who aren't exposed to germs don't build that immunity, and it leads to them having worse allergies later in life.
It's also worth pointing out that staying cooped up indoors is pretty harmful as well, because even something as simple as opening a window and getting fresh air actually makes a noticeable difference in your physical health. This isn't just because fresh air good, but also because it lets in new germs from the outside so your whole house doesn't get taken over by what's in there already.


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I'm just worried about the precedent this is going to set. Is every future outbreak going to result in self-destructing the economy and muzzling/isolating ourselves for six months? Because that future sounds pretty shitty.
It'll depend on how state elections and tax seasons go. If much of the current crop of authoritarian dumbasses get voted out and tax revenues are critically low, perhaps that would convince the other governors/"experts" to pump the breaks on future lockdowns, if only to try to maintain their cushy positions.

And good luck trying to convince the public of the necessity of a lockdown over an easily vaccinated disease like the flu.
 
I'm just worried about the precedent this is going to set. Is every future outbreak going to result in self-destructing the economy and muzzling/isolating ourselves for six months? Because that future sounds pretty shitty.
That's the thing that scares me more than covid.

I wonder what it’s going to do to the immune system of the current crop of young kids in school. You need exposure to germs to build up your immune system. Kids being muzzled with masks and banned from hanging out with their friends or playing outside in the dirt and on playgrounds is going to do more harm than good. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see cases of allergies and auto immune disorders surge even more than now because of healthy kids being deprived of germ exposure. Just vaccinate your kids and keep them from germs and viruses that could make them severely ill.

Sorry for the autism this is just something that has been on my mind. I am not a health expert so maybe someone could weigh in on this matter.
If it happens, they better not say covid did it. I just can't wait for the day when all this ends and you don't have to wear masks everywhere anymore. I can only imagine the horror stories about how someone was going insane from the lockdowns to the point of self-harm or how someone damn near passed out from wearing the mask all the time from the heat.
 
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I only know three people who got/tested positive COVID so far: My uncle, one of my friends, and one of my friend's sisters (who is a doctor).

My uncle got it in March, and for two weeks, he basically had a nasty flu. He's in his late 60's, and has had some heart-related procedures done in the past. He never felt like he was dying; he just felt like he had the flu. Anyway, he donates his plasma to a hospital now, and he is living it up right now. He regularly goes to bars and golfs again. According to him, his doctors gave him the OK to resume back to normal life. He says he feels great.

The other two people I know were asymptomatic.

In other news, over the past week, three people I know have died. None of them died from any symptoms of COVID. A friend of my husband's, though, who was single, living alone, and recently unemployed ("non-essential" worker, so nobody cares about them, right?) died young (he was in his late 30s). His family refuses to divulge what happened, which is sadly leading everyone to believe he may have killed himself.

I fucking hate this year. I hate the government. I hate the bootlickers. I hate China. I just hate everything.
 
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In other news, over the past week, three people I know have died. None of them died from any symptoms of COVID. A friend of my husband's, though, who was single, living alone, and recently unemployed ("non-essential" worker, so nobody cares about them, right?) died young. His family refuses to divulge what happened, which is sadly leading everyone to believe he may have killed himself.
Suicide caused by the despair of losing everything is an inconvenient detail that pro-lockdown people always ignore.

Should the economy sink into a depression, expect that number to increase even further as everything goes to hell.

In their self-righteousness and arrogance, the "experts" have caused so much damage to our society and our lives.
 
Suicide caused by the despair of losing everything is an inconvenient detail that pro-lockdown people always ignore.

Should the economy sink into a depression, expect that number to increase even further as everything goes to hell.

In their self-righteousness and arrogance, the "experts" have caused so much damage to our society and our lives.

And yet these people claim that we are the selfish ones.

I've grown to hate people this year, really. There's still individuals I like, of course, but I've seriously broken almost all contact with people I know because of how ugly they've been.

When this hellyear is behind us, and we're finally able to resume back to something resembling normalcy (if that's even possible), will I forget how incredibly awful a lot of the people I know have acted? Nope. I will never forget. And I refuse to pretend to forget just to "maintain the peace." I don't care if I burn bridges anymore.

EDIT (to avoid double posting): One of the friends I've stopped talking to is one of those "#StayTheFuckHome idiots. He, of course, cozily worked from home between March and now (and he's bitched about how much he hates his job the entire time). He's been bitching about not being able to find another job when he was finally called to get his ass back to the office earlier this month, lol.

The entitlement is astounding.
 
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I feel little else but annoyance and anger anymore. Not fear (over what people are doing not the virus mind you), not indifference, just anger. I'm fucking tired of this mask bullshit and how completely inescapable it is. I want to be able to watch videos of family being out and doing stuff and smile, not having to see all their muzzles and being constantly reminded about the utter retardation that has infested everything in this utterly godforsaken hellscape of a year.

To make matters worse, I'd like to try and get a job for some income flow, but I find it hard to breath in the muzzles and of course in my stupid state you can't do anything public without it so fuck me. The more time passes the more I want to slam the fast forward button to whatever arbitrary moment we're "allowed" to go back to our fucking lives and end this retarded charade, I fucking HAD ENOUGH.
 
So the government of Victoria has decided to run an ad campaign to deliberately terrify the population.

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Archive your stuff, and avoid double posts by editing the first post to append the second, okay?
Archived.
Pay no attention to Alan Jones' hysteria. Pick your favourite search engine and type in 'Alan Jones Kings School'. Is that who you really want to represent your cause? Try 'Alan Jones London'... see where that one gets you.
 
People don't want to get tested. Ya think? Ya think? Ya fucking think? Unless you are badly sick, why get tested? We know those tests aren't always accurate. We also know people who never even showed up to test are being notified of positive results. Believe testing is just one way to let "them" know who you are so you can be apprehended later and placed in a "quarantine facility". Perhaps people realize this is all just a power trip on "their" part, especially when you compare most of the ChiCom Flu numbers to most of the "regular" flu's numbers.




the number of calls to be tested in a Georgia County dropped from over 3000/day to less than 300 call on Friday. The DOH released most of their staff back to their normal jobs of Food/Restaurant Inspection, Vaccines, WIC, etc.

Oh and here’s the other accounting trick that they don’t tell you. A tremendous amount of the “cases” numbers are repeats of the same people. When you get a positive test, they typically require 2 consecutive negative tests to go back to work. So they retest and retest, as fast as the system will allow. Every two to three days they test. And each positive test gets counted as a New Case. 1 person can be and often is between 8 and 20 ”new” cases being presented to the public. The counts aren’t validating for unique individuals
 
how someone damn near passed out from wearing the mask all the time from the heat.
There have been a few heat warnings in my area recently and I've also been hearing a lot more ambulances on the main road than normal. Gee. I wonder what's happening. It's a god-damn mystery.
 
One guy posted an open letter to Dr. Fauci about HCQ and Corona-chan, it's long but it's a very interesting read of stuffs then some of us already mentionned along with some new notes still worth to watch.
Dear Dr. Fauci:

You were placed into the most high-profile role regarding America’s response to the Coronavirus pandemic. Americans have relied on your medical expertise concerning the wearing of masks, resuming employment, returning to school, and of course medical treatment.

You are largely unchallenged in terms of your medical opinions. You are the de facto “COVID-19 Czar”. This is unusual in the medical profession in which doctors’ opinions are challenged by other physicians in the form of exchanges between doctors at hospitals, medical conferences, as well as debate in medical journals. You render your opinions unchallenged, without formal public opposition from physicians who passionately disagree with you. It is incontestable that the public is best served when opinions and policy are based on the prevailing evidence and science, and able to withstand the scrutiny of medical professionals.

As experience accrued in treating COVID-19 infections, physicians worldwide discovered that high-risk patients can be treated successfully as an outpatient, within the first 5 to 7 days of the onset of symptoms, with a “cocktail” consisting of hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin (or doxycycline). Multiple scholarly contributions to the literature detail the efficacy of the hydroxychloroquine-based combination treatment.

Dr. Harvey Risch, the renowned Yale epidemiologist, published an article in May 2020 in the American Journal of Epidemiology titled “Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk COVID-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to Pandemic Crisis”. He further published an article in Newsweek in July 2020 for the general public expressing the same conclusions and opinions. Dr. Risch is an expert at evaluating research data and study designs, publishing over 300 articles. Dr Risch’s assessment is that there is unequivocal evidence for the early and safe use of the “HCQ cocktail.” If there are Q-T interval concerns, doxycycline can be substituted for azithromycin as it has activity against RNA viruses without any cardiac effects.

Yet, you continue to reject the use of hydroxychloroquine, except in a hospital setting in the form of clinical trials, repeatedly emphasizing the lack of evidence supporting its use. Hydroxychloroquine, despite 65 years of use for malaria, and over 40 years for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, with a well-established safety profile, has been deemed by you and the FDA as unsafe for use in the treatment of symptomatic COVID-19 infections. Your opinions have influenced the thinking of physicians and their patients, medical boards, state and federal agencies, pharmacists, hospitals, and just about everyone involved in medical decision making.

Indeed, your opinions impacted the health of Americans, and many aspects of our day-to-day lives including employment and school. Those of us who prescribe hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin/doxycycline believe fervently that early outpatient use would save tens of thousands of lives and enable our country to dramatically alter the response to COVID-19. We advocate for an approach that will reduce fear and allow Americans to get their lives back.

We hope that our questions compel you to reconsider your current approach to COVID-19 infection.
 
One guy posted an open letter to Dr. Fauci about HCQ and Corona-chan, it's long but it's a very interesting read of stuffs then some of us already mentionned along with some new notes still worth to watch.

I hope he used that letter to wipe his ass, because that's all it deserves.
 
Not sure if posted already, but theres an article around: Leaked data from the Wuhan Institute of Virology has indicated the Chinese Communist Party “purged” the database to drastically alter the country’s real COVID-19 figures according to former cyber security contractor Robert Potter.
EDIT: Archive.md won't get the full article under the 'read more' and the video dissappears. Any workaround this?
EDIT 2: for now, I'm just posting a screenshot of the article, still stumped on getting an archive of it and the video which I don't know how to grab
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