Louis "Lou" Gagliardi / Ash Franzetti / Alex 'Ace' Maddox / Tegan Ainsley / Taryn Amita / Diana / gothickitteh / ashkat724 / Lynn Brooks / @acekatt - #T R A M S _ C R O W _ F U N D *buys 12 iPads* "Anyone got $600 they can spare?" *spits on cancer patient*

[BoobWhiskers]

Somebody offered to buy Ace's tiger character, but was rejected.
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Lou tends to be very picky when it comes to food and the products he consooms, so it's really strange that he doesn't complain about the quality of art he commissions. Does he just not know any better, or is he scared of backlash from the artists?

Well see, it's funny, that.
Since the person who messaged him had mentioned Lou expressing he wasn't happy with something about the drawing, I got curious. Surely, I thought, Lou wouldn't be one of those fucking assholes who get mentioned all the time in name-and-shame posts who makes bitchy comments about the commissions they got done for them? Surely even Lou, with so few bridges left to burn, would be that fucking stupid.

So I hop on over to his FA, and:

Regrettably FA doesn't let you archive, so please enjoy the attached fullscreen as well. Lou posts the damn thing with a comment that reads like it was a feedback message he was sending the artist. 'Weh weh, not thicc enough, those hips are bad'. What's wrong Lou, does her having hips remind you that real honest-to-god women do, in fact, have wider hips than trannies?
I cannot understand people who do shit like this; this is why I'm always laughing at how the artists he repeat-commissions always seem to coincidentally do his stuff at a much jankier quality than their general body of work. Because even if you have an issue with your piece, you take that up in private or you address it in the revisions phase (not that Lou would know anything about a revisions phase, because he only commissions bargain-bin options from artists who seem to subside on name a lot more than quality). If an artist is thinking of working with you and all they see in your posted past commissions is you nitpicking at it, they're gonna give you a hard pass. And you deserve it. The artist got their money, but this is just tone-deaf redneck lack of manners that's pretty much the Lou standard.

On a side note, since he posted some other shit in his gallery: enjoy Lou misgendering his own fursona lol.

 

[Leonard Helplessness]

Because even if you have an issue with your piece, you take that up in private or you address it in the revisions phase (not that Lou would know anything about a revisions phase, because he only commissions bargain-bin options from artists who seem to subside on name a lot more than quality).

You bring up a good point. Basic body shape issues are something that shouldn’t make it past the initial sketches, which you shouldn’t even have sent any payment before seeing. It would have been easily fixed at that stage, or if it was outright rejected the artist could have YCH’d what he had. Unfortunately for anyone who takes his commissions, Lou prefers having shitty art he can bitch about to having good art.

And with regard to that response it’s so appalling I have to laugh. Lou was PM’d by a polite stranger with a straightforward offer, for which the appropriate responses were “yes” or “let’s discuss further” or “not for sale but thanks for the offer.” Lou didn’t even hit reply; he just took a screenshot and dug up the guy’s twitter handle so he could denounce the guy for reaching out to him. Granted, it’s in keeping with his tendency to post other people’s private correspondence with no awareness of how bad the correspondence (or the act of leaking it) makes him look.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

You bring up a good point. Basic body shape issues are something that shouldn’t make it past the initial sketches, which you shouldn’t even have sent any payment before seeing. It would have been easily fixed at that stage, or if it was outright rejected the artist could have YCH’d what he had. Unfortunately for anyone who takes his commissions, Lou prefers having shitty art he can bitch about to having good art.

And with regard to that response it’s so appalling I have to laugh. Lou was PM’d by a polite stranger with a straightforward offer, for which the appropriate responses were “yes” or “let’s discuss further” or “not for sale but thanks for the offer.” Lou didn’t even hit reply; he just took a screenshot and dug up the guy’s twitter handle so he could denounce the guy for reaching out to him. Granted, it’s in keeping with his tendency to post other people’s private correspondence with no awareness of how bad the correspondence (or the act of leaking it) makes him look.

This is his whole shtick: customer service/warranty scams. Complain about some bullshit thing, demand a refund, keep the "faulty" product. I reckon it's different when applied to art; he might have given intentionally vague directions or misleading feedback and now he wants his money back for the shitty art created to his faulty specifications.

AFAIK this used to be fairly common in web design, and probably just as common general art design.

 

[BoobWhiskers]

This is his whole shtick: customer service/warranty scams. Complain about some bullshit thing, demand a refund, keep the "faulty" product. I reckon it's different when applied to art; he might have given intentionally vague directions or misleading feedback and now he wants his money back for the shitty art created to his faulty specifications.

AFAIK this used to be fairly common in web design, and probably just as common general art design.

I mean, the problem here primarily comes from the fact that Lou doesn't have a ref sheet because he rebrands every two weeks.

Part of the reason that you pay a lot for a ref sheet, aside from the fact that it's usually 2+ fullbodies and some headshots, is that the person is basically having to do design work as well as art work. Sometimes a client has a very detailed, clear, comprehensive idea of what they want and a whole album to help guide the process, sometimes (Lou) they have no idea other than 'I want tiger with big tiddy'. Bottom line though, is that the ref sheet artist has to sit there and really work closely with the client to make sure the idea makes it onto paper as accurately as possible. You want it very accurate because it's what any future artists are going to work from, so generally the price builds in the fact that the artist will be spending extra time corresponding, making revisions, approval checking as they go, etc etc. It's different than just doing a regular pinup or illustration because you're setting the ongoing look for a character and a lot of the time you're working with no framework to build on.

For lineart pieces like this, it's not necessarily unusual for the artist to not give out an initial sketch for approval/revision (I personally think it's always a good idea, but the guy's work looks like his lineart stuff is really meant to be minimum-turnaround-time quick, spontaneous ink sketch sort of a deal). And normally that's not a huge issue, because the artist has a ref sheet to go on. They have the visual guide to the character, and if it's a good ref sheet then it'll have either a written or pose-implied idea of the character's attitude, personality, etc. So if you go to a guy who's not a designer and say 'I want big tiddy tiger' without giving him a ref sheet, you get what you deserve: whatever HE thinks big tiddy tiger should entail, which may not match your idea. That's why you have a ref sheet. Idiot.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

I mean, the problem here primarily comes from the fact that Lou doesn't have a ref sheet because he rebrands every two weeks.

I appreciate the lengthy explanation. However, I don't think he wants to have decent art, IMO he just wants some exclusive fap material for himself. More specifically, fap material which feeds into his AGP delusions, with the opportunity to scam his money back as an added plus. He doesn't want exquisite or even decent art, because being a consumerist coomer is difficult when you're spending $500 a pop and you don't have any impulse control.

Lou is simply unable to practice delayed gratification.

 

[Lou’s Biggest Fan]

Lou has no appreciation for anything he has, the only joy in his life is that brief high one gets when you get something new. A new toy, a new game, a new gadget, a new pack of cards, a new collectible, a new tool, etc etc

That very brief “OOH THIS THING IS NEE AND EXCITING” moment.

For most people, that moment dwindles and is replaced with an appreciation of the thing that they own and a small sense of pride of it being theirs. That might go away with time but it takes years and you still will always appreciate it, especially if you worked for it.

For Louie Boy, that brief sense of excitement at getting something new vanished almost immediately and is replaced with nothing. He’s utterly addicted to buying new trinkets and gadgets because that’s the only thing that brings him joy in his life. He has no actual social life beyond a couple fools on social media, he has no job or income he works for so he can’t appreciate the value of anything, he had no ambitions so there’s no working towards anything, he spends his days on electronics and playing video games so he’s inoculated to any joy those bring, there’s nothing in his life that is a source of any sort of happiness, so he chases that brief “new and shiny” high and expects everybody else to pay for it because despite all that he’s also a narcissist somehow.

What a pathetic, miserable existence.

 

[BoobWhiskers]

I appreciate the lengthy explanation. However, I don't think he wants to have decent art, IMO he just wants some exclusive fap material for himself. More specifically, fap material which feeds into his AGP delusions, with the opportunity to scam his money back as an added plus. He doesn't want exquisite or even decent art, because being a consumerist coomer is difficult when you're spending $500 a pop and you don't have any impulse control.

Lou is simply unable to practice delayed gratification.

I guess there's not much motivation to actually get competent art when the 'character' it represents is just gonna get binned almost immediately. At this rate he should just get into the whole character/adoptable flipping crap the kids are into these days, it's that same quick dopamine hit except he might theoretically be able to use the last hit to pay for the next.

 

[JaneThough]

OMG how have I missed out on this cow? He is the male Rabbie and Stapphy Crimsom Claw. He is Eric Cartman personified (all the way down to saying he's transgender with zero effort). I am hooked!

 

[Lou’s Biggest Fan]

OMG how have I missed out on this cow? He is the male Rabbie and Stapphy Crimsom Claw. He is Eric Cartman personified (all the way down to saying he's transgender with zero effort). I am hooked!

Welcome to the Ride. Take a handful of nuggies from the bowl, otherwise Lou will eat them all.

Because he’s fucking FAT.

 

[Antipathy]

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I'm not a great art critic at all, but I want to figure this shit out.
First off: what the hell is that left hand? It looks like a cloven hoof blending into the cape? Cloak? There is literally no way to determine where the border of that hand is at all.
Secondly, right hand. Where is it? Based on how the cape is protruding out, I think it's bent at the elbow, but the hand would be on or past the centerline of the body, unless it's a stubby little T-Rex arm. Ignoring the vacuum sealed clothing, moving to the legs, is the left leg forwards, walking with the thighs mashed together? That's to say nothing of the abysmal spinal alignment. The head is facing towards the viewer, as are the legs mostly, but the body is turned almost at a thirty degree angle away. Attempting to hold this position in real life is possible, I can do it, but it's awkward and places a lot of tension on my lower back. It's not a natural way of standing, or a comfortable way of posing.

The longer I look at this, the worse it gets. Like shoggoth-lite.

 

[BoobWhiskers]

OMG how have I missed out on this cow? He is the male Rabbie and Stapphy Crimsom Claw. He is Eric Cartman personified (all the way down to saying he's transgender with zero effort). I am hooked!

HA, if you liked classic Rabbie you're def in for a ride with this one, he's a fucking disaster. Nice to see a familiar face even though I don't think Animal Control is your usual neighborhood

I'm not a great art critic at all, but I want to figure this shit out.
The longer I look at this, the worst it gets. Like shoggoth-lite.

It's a disaster, isn't it? He got this one a month or two back now (I wanna say it was during pride month because I generously want to say that was supposed to be a flag), and it was definitely a contributing factor to the 'Gneech is just fucking with him by drawing extra sub-par work for him on purpose' theory.

 

[Norman B. Normal]

I'm not a great art critic at all, but I want to figure this shit out.
First off: what the hell is that left hand? It looks like a cloven hoof blending into the cape? Cloak? There is literally no way to determine where the border of that hand is at all.
Secondly, right hand. Where is it? Based on how the cape is protruding out, I think it's bent at the elbow, but the hand would be on or past the centerline of the body, unless it's a stubby little T-Rex arm. Ignoring the vacuum sealed clothing, moving to the legs, is the left leg forwards, walking with the thighs mashed together? That's to say nothing of the abysmal spinal alignment. The head is facing towards the viewer, as are the legs mostly, but the body is turned almost at a thirty degree angle away. Attempting to hold this position in real life is possible, I can do it, but it's awkward and places a lot of tension on my lower back. It's not a natural way of standing, or a comfortable way of posing.

The longer I look at this, the worst it gets. Like shoggoth-lite.

I unironically like the fursona Lou was using around the time we discovered him:

She's pretty, she seems happy, she's not grotesquely proportioned, the drawing is colored and shaded nicely (i.e., not by Lou), it's just a nice piece of art in general. It's been bizarre to see him drop hundreds of dollars on new pictures that just seem to get progressively worse.

 

[JaneThough]

HA, if you liked classic Rabbie you're def in for a ride with this one, he's a fucking disaster. Nice to see a familiar face even though I don't think Animal Control is your usual neighborhood

You are correct, furries are boring for the most part to me. But this guy has like, everything all my favorite cows have. He's got the sanctimonious attitude of Nethilia, the ebegging skills of Rabbie, the transtrenderness/complete delusion of Stapphy. He's like the ubercow.

 

[Antipathy]

I unironically like the fursona Lou was using around the time we discovered him:

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She's pretty, she seems happy, she's not grotesquely proportioned, the drawing is colored and shaded nicely (i.e., not by Lou), it's just a nice piece of art in general. It's been bizarre to see him drop hundreds of dollars on new pictures that just seem to get progressively worse.

As his grifting ability has deteriorated, so too has his fursona.

 

[ThrowawayFurry]

Of course he's begging for a new table. Goddamn, the brass balls on this guy.
He posted some more helpful photos of his hovel:
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Spoiler: big

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Imagine the smell. Who doesn't clean up before taking a photo that will be posted publicly? I'd be mortified.

10 Teabags?! Is this normal? Iced tea isn't really a popular thing here in the UK, but that sounds extremely excessive and wasteful. He'll be buying more to waste at the same time as the new diffuser no doubt:
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Also, major lol at the new avatar. Looks like a Klingon tiger

Lou's new art- $25 by the dude's most recent pricing sheet that I saw, incredible that the dude managed to make the face the worst part of the whole thing.

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Guess Lou gave up on trying to get a muscular character lol. Also that's such an awkward hand pose versus a more natural and sexier thumb-hooked-on-belt-wrist-bent.

Is this guy normally a human artist and just furry for pay? Because... that face is not good. Doesn't look much like a tiger either, facial patterning on a tiger is like, easy-mode shorthand for species identification and it looks like he didn't know and didn't bother to pull a ref and just went 'fuckit, the rest has stripes so good enough'. Also it's mystifying that this guy is expensive because... well, getting a lineart was probably the best available option, dude's color work is painful baby's-first-airbrush.

Edit, because every single artist Lou commissions makes me laugh: imagine spending $250 and getting THIS.
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Looking at his acrylic work compared to the examples of digital work this is definitely an oldschool traditional artist who has no idea how to maintain definition and edge control when working digital, jesus god.

I'm sorry but what in the absolute flying fuck is this anatomy and posing
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I don't know jack shit about furry art, but I do know when something is awkward and wildly out of proportion, and not in a way that is "stylized". This can't even be justified as pin-up anatomy; there is absolutely zero depth to the body, just look at how shallow the clavicle area is.
/end of art spergery

The artist clearly half-assed this, which is worth noting given that Lou has commissioned them before. I'd wager he was a very difficult customer, so there was zero attempt made to keep this from looking like a lumpy mannequin with Downs
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I quoted Lurk's post to talk about how 10 bags of tea is way too many, even for a pitcher (use 4 dumbass and don't just dip them in there and yank them out like you probably did) or how Lou's new art is just godawful in so many aspects but you guys seem to have covered that for me. That new art is actually atrocious. And now Lou is begging for a table to go with his computer? Holy shit he's like a homeless dude that you give a cheeseburger and drink to and he asks you where the fucking fries are. Except he isn't homeless. He's living at home without paying rent. And it's a computer and table instead of the cheeseburger and fries.

Anyway, Lou, here's this. It's about all you can accomplish with the paint bucket because so many lines are just not closed. It's even the trans flag color scheme you wanted. That'll be $15.

Spoiler: Abomination

 

[Lurk]

Anyway, Lou, here's this. It's about all you can accomplish with the paint bucket because so many lines are just not closed. It's even the trans flag color scheme you wanted. That'll be $15.

Spoiler: Abomination

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Lol I was wondering why he hadn't done one of his signature garish paint bucket jobs on it, now it makes sense

 

[Iron Hamster]

I finally figured out what's wrong with his latest deformed weasel pic.............it looks like that guy with the eagle tattooed on his forehead. It took the hideous 'trans' colors to bring it out.

 

[Turael]

Lou's new art- $25 by the dude's most recent pricing sheet that I saw, incredible that the dude managed to make the face the worst part of the whole thing.

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Guess Lou gave up on trying to get a muscular character lol. Also that's such an awkward hand pose versus a more natural and sexier thumb-hooked-on-belt-wrist-bent.

Is this guy normally a human artist and just furry for pay? Because... that face is not good. Doesn't look much like a tiger either, facial patterning on a tiger is like, easy-mode shorthand for species identification and it looks like he didn't know and didn't bother to pull a ref and just went 'fuckit, the rest has stripes so good enough'. Also it's mystifying that this guy is expensive because... well, getting a lineart was probably the best available option, dude's color work is painful baby's-first-airbrush.

Edit, because every single artist Lou commissions makes me laugh: imagine spending $250 and getting THIS.
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Looking at his acrylic work compared to the examples of digital work this is definitely an oldschool traditional artist who has no idea how to maintain definition and edge control when working digital, jesus god.

Bartrop was one of those "Big in the 90's" furries back before the times when animators and other professionals realized they could make big bucks with furries. He's also living off the dole and as much as he brags about being a professional artist, the Canadian government is the primary source of his income.

 

[Antipathy]

Spoiler: Abomination

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The coloration really brings out the bad anatomy. Starting from the top down, the head has the goddamn shape of a pear and the eyes aren't level with each other. Moving to the lumpy noodle arms and impossibly small trunk/ribcage area (taking her hands and gripping at her midsection at the narrowest point, her fingertips would almost touch) we reach the mysterious near navel extension of the body, which smoothly stretches down the rest of the torso. I cannot describe this sudden extension as anything other than bizarre. It is so sharp and unnatural looking, and I can understand what Lovecraft meant when he described things as indescribable and distorted.

Pants are weird. Very tight at the top, but loose at the bottom? Possible, but weird. The right thigh is a lot larger than the left, despite the left leg being forwards. The thighs are appear to be on the same plane, but the knee is clearly in front, and by the foot placement, her legs are on the same line. The position of the left hand is awkwardly bent, a more natural position would be lying near the thigh or resting on the hip. Her right arm extends almost to her knee, being a good ~30% longer than her left.

In short: what the fuck?

 

[HIVidaBoheme]

You are correct, furries are boring for the most part to me. But this guy has like, everything all my favorite cows have. He's got the sanctimonious attitude of Nethilia, the ebegging skills of Rabbie, the transtrenderness/complete delusion of Stapphy. He's like the ubercow.

He also has the total weight of those three wrapped up in one neat transtrender grifter.