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Of course he’s a shitty, degenerate person who is actively trying to get other people to be like him.
But it’s the same reason I feel bad for other mentally insane people, I’d rather they weren’t insane. Because these people have family and shit, and the insanity fucks their lives up as well.
What I’m trying to say is that in a perfect world, there would be no am hole.
Tbf and fwiw, I might have felt similarly ten, even five years ago. Someone as revolting inside as Kev though? Nah, his entire purpose in life, the very reason he was put on this earth, was to provide a topic for us to have this friendly conversation here today.
 
Tbf and fwiw, I might have felt similarly ten, even five years ago. Someone as revolting inside as Kev though? Nah, his entire purpose in life, the very reason he was put on this earth, was to provide a topic for us to have this friendly conversation here today.
Oh, I’ll absolutely laugh at and about this crazy motherfucker.
Even if it’s a 42% story, he dug that grave himself.
 
Of course he’s a shitty, degenerate person who is actively trying to get other people to be like him.
But it’s the same reason I feel bad for other mentally insane people, I’d rather they weren’t insane. Because these people have family and shit, and the insanity fucks their lives up as well.
What I’m trying to say is that in a perfect world, there would be no am hole.

I see where you're coming from, because I do still have sympathy for mentally ill or vulnerable people who were manipulated into SRS (especially when it happens to the very young.) That's such an enormous crime to the body and brain, and at this point a lot of people are able to skip the absolutely essential psych work that needs to take place if you really will go through with it (and it should always be the last resort.)

Kevvie got it first thing, not because he was dying of dysphoria, but because he failed as a man and his misogyny made him think that having a try at being a woman would be his true success. Still, he could've redeemed himself somewhat by telling the truth about how fucked the surgery is, and how starting to take hormones in your 30s doesn't magically turn you into a cute girl. If he could save one person, it should have been worth it.

Instead, him saving face in his troon community ("I have so much clout now!") is more important to him than saving someone from making the same mistake. He gets off on attention and power so much that he gaslights and manipulates a clearly mentally ill, isolated dude in Mode View (who hasn't yet had ANY kind of sex), and is basically forcing him to say he's trans. Why? So he could brag about cracking another egg. That's it. That's literally the justification.

So, no, Kevvie's last chance at gaining empathy ended miles and miles ago.
 
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I see where you're coming from, because I do still have sympathy for mentally ill or vulnerable people who were manipulated into SRS (especially when it happens to the very young.) That's such an enormous crime to the body and brain, and at this point a lot of people are being able to skip the absolutely essential psych work that needs to take place if you really will go through with it (and it should always be the last resort.)

Kevvie got it first thing, not because he was dying of dysphoria, but because he failed as a man and his misogyny made him think that having a try at being a woman would be his true success. Still, he could've redeemed himself somewhat by telling the truth about how fucked the surgery is, and how starting to take hormones in your 30s doesn't magically turn you into a cute girl. If he could save one person, it should have been worth it.

Instead, him saving face in his troon community ("I have so much clout now!") is more important to him than saving someone from making the same mistake. He gets off on attention and power so much that he gaslights and manipulates a clearly mentally ill, isolated dude in Mode View (who hasn't yet had ANY kind of sex), and is basically forcing him to say he's trans. Why? Because he could brag about cracking another egg. That's it. That's literally the justification.

So, no, Kevvie's last chance at gaining empathy was miles and miles ago.
Let’s be real here, if it wasn’t troonery it would be some cult.
 
Let’s be real here, troonery IS a cult.
Without going on a tangent, pretty much yeah.
I’m an retard, so of course I read about a lot of cults and shit. The tactics used and how it effects people is so similar between troonery and what we recognize as cults that it’s almost a parody.
 
Without going on a tangent, pretty much yeah.
I’m an retard, so of course I read about a lot of cults and shit. The tactics used and how it effects people is so similar between troonery and what we recognize as cults that it’s almost a parody.
Absolutely. From recruitment to isolationism to functioning to expansion to shunning to everything you can possibly conceive of, troonery works exactly as a cult. That's why so many people are so desperate to join even when they aren't even troons. "I don't have body dysmorphia, but I'm still part of the club I mean I'm trans!"
 
I'm gonna take @CivilianOfTheFandomWars side on this one, I also feel bad for Kevin, degenerate lifestyle, shitty personality and all.

It's not gonna keep me from laughing though, my pity is very much in the same category as as the pity I have for Chris-chan, who also would be a shitty person, despite autism and internet notoriety.

I can remember working retail when I was younger, and two of my first jobs exposed me to retards who I just knew, would be assholes even without mental impairments.

One guy was a regular at the popular coffee shop I worked at, he would always request a rebrew of whatever we had on and get like 6 refills of a small before leaving. He'd also order a single pastry and run us through the weirdest customized requests for it. "Can you cut it into 8 pieces diagonally and pour some half and half on the top?" He'd ask about your hobbies and ramble weird made up trivia about whatever it was while you prepare his autism cake. He'd also make Karen requests like turning down the music or turning off the lights in parts of the shop where he was sitting. The way he talked and acted it was obvious he had some sort of impairment or brain injury, we'd also joke about his behavior when he left, but you just knew even without a mental impairment or brain injury, the dude would be an asshole.

Second guy was when I was doing retail at a popular buy 'n trade game chain. This motherfucker was the worst. Obvious TBI, he would come in and ask for multiple Madden football games that were all 3-4 years old, so they only cost a few dollars at most and we'd usually have dozens of copies. He would ask us to pull out copy after copy to pick out the one with the fewest amount of scratches, he would then take advantage of the return policy to return the games within the week. The thing is, he'd never return it to the same store, he'd take it to another store in a neighboring city with a different tax rate and make you calculate the tax difference in the return. He would do this 2-3 times a week, eventually the regional managers got involved and banned him from shopping at other stores, and limited him to the store closest to his home, and his transaction had to be complete by a regional manger. The dude had a meltdown and started swearing in front of families one time when he came up like 2$ short on a transaction involving 4 Madden games. This guy would've been an asshole even without the TBI, but I still felt for him on some level.

Kevin's dad died during a pretty important developmental phase in his life. Had that not happened, he would probably still be devoid of a personality, still be a consumer and laughable. Hell, he might have still trooned out. Kevin is a hilarious piece of shit, but between the body mutilation, toy acquisition and insane amount of time he spends on twitter, I feel like Kevin is lonely and trying to fill an am hole in his life and doing it entirely the wrong way. I'm allowed to feel a little pity for the sick fuck.
 
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I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I have a sliver of compassion/sympathy for the obvious mental illness going on. To hate your body THAT much that you literally mutilate it, then pump it full of estrogen that has been derived from pregnant horse piss, that's a lot of crazy.

what I dont give a single minuscule fuck about, is Kevin himself. He's a misogynist, a liar, delusional, lazy, repulsive, and disgusting.

I'll save my thoughts and prayers for his family when this piece of shit finally gets 41%'d.
 
I feel sorry for Kevin only because I can't help imagining how many other people, far more deserving of sympathy than he, have or will end up at this horrific point, and my sympathy kinds of end up spilling back over onto Kevin because, well, he is in this situation. But on the other hand, he's a misogynistic groomer and grifter who won't pull his own weight, so also fuck him.

At this point I'm mainly here for the ranch saga. The novelty of a deeply in-debt polyamorous trans alpaca ranch has not yet worn off for me. There are so many still-unanswered questions. Where are all these large anonymous donations coming from and where are they going? How well are the animals being looked after and why are Penny and Bonnie hoarding so many? Why don't they lock up their guns? Just how fucked is the house's wiring, plumbing, and basic construction, anyway?

These are the questions that keep me up at night.
 
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I don't feel sorry for Kevie because he's made it explicitly clear through the curated lense of his Twitter sperging that he's a horrible person. He has very little regard for others, is shallow in the worst of ways and is a misogynistic piece of shit man that is quite typical. For God's sake, he looks down on natal women because he somehow believes he's better than them. But since he hides behind the trans shield nothing he does or says can be criticized, not his lies, much less his hatred for real women. He uses the part of trans culture that I would normally have sympathy for himself, so he has gloating rights, the part that sugar coats the reality of being trans and enables other people's delusions and contributes to their decline. Aka cracking eggs aka convincing men who are mentally ill that everything will be better once they transition.

So honestly? I don't have an ounce of sympathy for him because there's nobody inside the husk that is Kevin that is worth grieving for. No lost potential, no kind yet misunderstood soul, no heart. Just am black hole, forever and ever collapsing in on itself. If he's lonely it's his own fault. He's a grown fucking man. Stop weeping for the garbage in the ditch you pass on your way to work.
 
I feel a sort of horror and thankfulness that I’m not a male who has castrated myself to live a fetish. I don’t feel bad for Kevin because I’m a feminazi and he’s one of the biggest misogynists on the Farms, but just imagining what his life is has me feeling bad about the things that people do to themselves in this world. His life is just so, so bad, and he will never, ever get what he wants from it. It’s scary in a way.
 
I want to feel bad because people are being lied to by genuine medical professionals and led to believe that gaining a functional vagina is possible through this form of castration. Then I see one of these guys assert that a clitoris is no different from a penis to begin with or that gynecologists can't tell the difference and I remember that some lessons can only be learned the hard way.
 
Kevin is stupid, and is malicious because he's stupid. If he isn't a useful idiot like he was for his ex telling him to kick his brother out, he's a harmful idiot like when he tries to convince more people to transition. He gets sympathy points for his upbringing, but people have walked away from much worse and aren't a quarter as messed up as he is. A tragic past is a reason, but that doesn't make it an excuse.

Ultimately, I'd rate Kevin above "giving him a blood transfusion to stop him from bleeding out" but below "lending him a penny because he's a cent short for a frosty."
 
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