2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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It's also the shine from Obama. People still like him.

People love Obama, but that doesn't translate to high voter turnout or victory. If they are expecting blacks to come out in '08 numbers for the oldest white man and a self proclaimed Indian with a condescending attitude, they have another thing coming. See: Hillary Clinton.
 
The last time NYS went red at all, and for more than 50%, was in 1984 for incumbent Regan. It went red in 1980 for Regan previously but as you said with less than 50% of the vote. Prior to that, 1972 for incumbent Nixon with almost 60%. Before that, 1956, >60%. NYS may end up being more of a wild card in the near future although right now it is still considered a "solidly blue" state because of the influence of NYC. Trump probably doesn't have a chance of flipping the state this time around as most of the city (except Staten Island and Long Island) hates his guts. But the future is uncertain and this is 2020, so who the fuck knows?

I live in Trump's hometown of Queens, NY. Over here there are more people who are just apathetic about Trump than people who have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Especially with younger minorities. It's the white college educated yuppy transplants where TDS is in the majority.
 
People love Obama, but that doesn't translate to high voter turnout or victory. If they are expecting blacks to come out in '08 numbers for the oldest white man and a self proclaimed Indian with a condescending attitude, they have another thing coming. See: Hillary Clinton.

Sure, but it does translate to clicking a Like button.

(There's a metaphor for social media-addicted lefty slacktivists in there somewhere.)
 
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Well based on her family's history I utterly fail to see your fucking point. You know your candidate is complete dogshit when they have to hop back a generation, cross an entire ocean, and allude to some ass-random woman not in any way related to that candidate.
 
The main tactic it seems the Dems are using is blaming the COVID-19 pandemic on Tramp or whatnot.

A combination from what I've seen from majority of the vids or whatnot from the Dems with their brand of emotional manipulation and distortion of information, is that they all share the commonality of placing sole blame of 170,000 lives on Tramp, which I feel is somewhat unfair.

Sure, I think that he should've taken stricter action to make sure that all states secure themselves instead of letting the states do whatever they please no matter if it benefits the people or not, but I feel as if there should be a more collective blame on either the authoritarian way certain states handled it or the lax way that some of the Southern states handled it which kinda fucked them over rather than REEEEEEEEEEEEE DRUMPF. They do this because it hits close to you and provides enough emotional manipulation to empower their voters.

I think it's very brave because it can easily blow up in their face, and I'm still not sure if the dems are even aware of that. it's already stretching the cognitive dissonance: if trump is such a fascist, how could the states and cities get away with it? trump just needs to point out he isn't the gouvernor or the mayor and at least some people, usually the ones in the center that are not already in the cheeto hitler mindset, will take note. ironically those are the same people the dems are pandering too to get to vote for them.

and once people figure out that they actually have some power on a local level besides voting for who moves into the white house every four years, how will this affect future elections? I'm not sure if the dems are ready for opening that pandorra's box.
 
Maybe he is trying to build up local support and candidates in Upstate New York? Lord knows they have been abandoned to wither and die for decades at this point.

Funny enough in the 2019 local elections, Republicans did very well in rural Upstate New York (counties like Sullivan, Cattaraugus etc.). Rural upstate NY counties have been getting redder since 2016, so it could translate into solid support for Republicans in the region for this election.
 
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Well based on her family's history I utterly fail to see your fucking point. You know your candidate is complete dogshit when they have to hop back a generation, cross an entire ocean, and allude to some ass-random woman not in any way related to that candidate.

Kamala : "My father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate helped free Slaves in another country."
Pence : "What does that have to do with you putting Black Kids in Jail for smoking dope?"
Kamala: "Absolutely Nothing."
 
Funny enough in the 2019 local elections, Republicans did very well in rural Upstate New York (counties like Sullivan, Cattaraugus etc.). Rural upstate NY counties have been getting redder since 2016, so it could translate into solid support for Republicans in the region for this election.

The Republicans are getting Whiter, the Democrats are getting darker, and the geography sorts itself out.
 
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Well based on her family's history I utterly fail to see your fucking point. You know your candidate is complete dogshit when they have to hop back a generation, cross an entire ocean, and allude to some ass-random woman not in any way related to that candidate.
By that same logic
>Hitler was born in Austria, where a fierce classical liberal once founded the Austrian School of Economics
 

New Trafalgar Poll

note that while it has a reputation for being somewhat R favored, it actually UNDERESTIMATED Republican performance at times. In 2018 Ohio Gubernatorial they said democrat Cordray+4 when repub Mike DeWine won by +3. In 2018 Michigan Senate they had democrat Stabenow+9 while she only won by +7.

If this poll holds any validity to it, then this is actually devastating for the Biden campaign. They shouldn't be tied at this point in time. Closer to November, sure ... But now? In the midst of the Dem Convention? After the VP pick? Terrible news for the Democrats.

People love Obama, but that doesn't translate to high voter turnout or victory. If they are expecting blacks to come out in '08 numbers for the oldest white man and a self proclaimed Indian with a condescending attitude, they have another thing coming. See: Hillary Clinton.

An Obama endorsement is like a kiss of death for your campaign, lol. Obama's track record of getting other Democrats elected has been abysmal throughout the years/decade.

Dude has only been good at getting himself elected.
 
If this poll holds any validity to it, then this is actually devastating for the Biden campaign. They shouldn't be tied at this point in time. Closer to November, sure ... But now? In the midst of the Dem Convention? After the VP pick? Terrible news for the Democrats.

Has there been enough time for the VP pick to have affected this poll?
 

New Trafalgar Poll

note that while it has a reputation for being somewhat R favored, it actually UNDERESTIMATED Republican performance at times. In 2018 Ohio Gubernatorial they said democrat Cordray+4 when repub Mike DeWine won by +3. In 2018 Michigan Senate they had democrat Stabenow+9 while she only won by +7.
Worth noting that if you look at this poll, Biden barely beats Trump by the difference of 0.4%. Biden: 46.9%, Trump, 46.5%. It's extremely close, but Politics Polls just went with 47% for both because it's good for sensationalizing for Republicans. I'll wait for polls where Trump is beating Biden before I get excited. Keep in mind that things can change in the next three months and they do not necessarily have to be good for Trump.

That said, I am feeling good on Trump's chances of taking Minnesota but that is only because of the riot.
Has there been enough time for the VP pick to have affected this poll?
Harris was nominated a week ago so I presume it would have some effect. Biden was 7.2 ahead in the polls before Harris was announced. Yesterday he was 7.6 ahead. He peaked at 7.9 in-between.

Question to all who have followed national elections longer than I do, do vice president picks typically help candidates in the poll right after they get announced?
 
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I would like to say after trying to find more videos. Mitt Romney was one very, very, super shit candidate with no enthusiasm at all. Like the difference between Trump and Romney is night and day. Trump truly saved the GOP in 2016. And Hillary shit the bed hard. I don't know, maybe compare Bernie's DNC speech to hers during that year to see the difference.

Also its sorted by Views, Likes, Dislikes.

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Mitt Romney was one very, very, super shit candidate with no enthusiasm at all.
Can Confirm, Conservatives looked at that and said "This is the best we can do? The Third String guy after Bush and McCain? MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH"

This is why McCain and Romney are so fucking butthurt over Trump, The voter base got tired of Neocons who cucked out at every chance.
 
Can Confirm, Conservatives looked at that and said "This is the best we can do? The Third String guy after Bush and McCain? MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH"

This is why McCain and Romney are so fucking butthurt over Trump, The voter base got tired of Neocons who cucked out at every chance.
I voted for Obama that year and part of the reason for me was that he looked like a soulless white materialist dull basic moneyman. Like he was like the guys from American Psycho who only cared solely for money and also a cold war cuck fear mongering about Russia. Obama took mercy on him in the first debate and then got fucked hard in the 2nd and 3rd debates.

I will look to see what people thought of Bernie's speech at the DNC to see if he had at least 80 percent average approval and if he did then the DNC shot their own cock off basically in 2016. Bernie in 2016 for all the zoomers here wasn't the same thing you see in 2020. More similar to Trump back then.
 
I voted for Obama that year and part of the reason for me was that he looked like a soulless white materialist dull basic moneyman. Like he was like the guys from American Psycho who only cared solely for money and also a cold war cuck fear mongering about Russia. Obama took mercy on him in the first debate and then got fucked hard in the 2nd and 3rd debates.
It depends on what you mean by Moneyman, a lot of "The Base" viewed him as Obama lite, that he had all the same goals as Obama in terms of direction of the country but wanted to get there slower than Obama did.
 
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It depends on what you mean by Moneyman, a lot of "The Base" viewed him as Obama lite, that he had all the same goals as Obama in terms of direction of the country but wanted to get there slower than Obama did.
Think of Hollywood's stereotype of a rich fat capitalist pig who wants to steal from the poor. He looked like a dollar tree version of Ronald Reagan to me.

I believed back then that he was going to bring back the 2nd term of the Bush era.
 
Think of Hollywood's stereotype of a rich fat capitalist pig who wants to steal from the poor.
Oh that is 100% not what he is, being a rich fat capitalist requires you to have a real set of balls. Consider this..did you hear him at all argue with any passion for capitalism? for conservatism? For any sort of Traditionalism?

I believed back then that he was going to bring back the 2nd term of the Bush era.
Oh he would have, but outside of one Tax cut..exactly what did Bush accomplish for his base?
 
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