U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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Regardless of your feelings on protests or riots ( whatever your political sports team calls it) , one thing is for certain: FEDSMOKER missed the boat and died way too soon.
Plot twist: Fedsmoker really was the only thing standing in the way of the baby raper take over! It all makes sense now!

YEEAAAHH
 
Going by the autistic Total War: Warhammer Fantasy metaphor, wouldn't this be a perfect setup for a suprise flank to antifa's rear, with a quick unit (such as prison vans)? After about 50 ft, there's not enough of a crowd to fall back into, and any attempt to pull back to support the rear weakens the frontline. Especially if you take turns hitting them from the sides as well, with grab-and-fall back motions to force the group into a tight circle, before using area attacks like smoke grenades and staining paint sprays (mixed with plenty of fake duds to prevent them from handling them all).
Warhammer chariots are basically armored trucks with a halved max speed, so this checks out. But ramming them with vehicles as a tactic is awfully close to simply shooting them on the "intended PR disaster" department.
"Rest in Power"??? What are they doing, using the guy to make biodiesel?
Close, they're using him to make propaganda through the power of martyrdom. They almost stole the entire country from top to bottom for a second there, so I can see why they cling to it.
 
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Someone explain to me like the idiot that I am why "urban vibrancy" is appealing. I've lived in rural areas, suburbs, and cities. Not just visited, but lived-lived, and the main benefits for all that I can see are:
Rural
  • Stars
  • Quiet and nature sounds
  • Distance from neighbors
  • Privacy
Suburbs
  • Safety from crime AND coyotes
  • Close to medical care and stores and shit, but far enough away to avoid city noise and crime
  • Close enough to your neighbors you can actually have a community and your kids can find friends
City
  • More good food is available in addition to the chain shit
  • Close to work if you work there and you don't have to commute
Nowhere in here would I put "urban vibrancy", and when I lived in cities I always avoided certain areas at night because it was freaking dangerous. It made me think there was no reason people would choose to live there, that people must have been stuck there for some reason.
People may try to play up the "we're so accepting and open minded" angle for woke points, but the real answer is money. If you're some young couple who's insisting on living in a high CoL city and you don't have mommy and daddy's money to supplement your meager income, invariably the only places you can afford will be in shithole neighborhoods.

They may play woke, but if they save up enough money to buy any property in the shithole neighborhood, they're all secretly praying for gentrification to drive up the price of rent in the area and make all the scary minorities move away. So nothing puts a bigger smile on my face then places like Greenpoint in Brooklyn where the bugs who were too late to afford Williamsburg tried to do the same thing to Greenpoint, but all the pollacks and wops refused to budge and now the soys are stuck with postage stamp sized property in the fuckin ghetto.
 
Going by the autistic Total War: Warhammer Fantasy metaphor, wouldn't this be a perfect setup for a suprise flank to antifa's rear, with a quick unit (such as prison vans)? After about 50 ft, there's not enough of a crowd to fall back into, and any attempt to pull back to support the rear weakens the frontline. Especially if you take turns hitting them from the sides as well, with grab-and-fall back motions to force the group into a tight circle, before using area attacks like smoke grenades and staining paint sprays (mixed with plenty of fake duds to prevent them from handling them all).


“When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.”
- Sun Tzu

Sure you can surround these people, but the issue is, every antifa supporting fucker I know is mentally ill in the "has been or most likely will be a danger to them selves or others" way. They are already desperate why else has this been going on for the better part of 90 days. What happens when their backs are against the (metaphorical) wall surrounded by police, there is a good chance one if not many will snap and pull out their bats/IEDs made from fireworks, possible pipe bombs, etc and harm and/or kill not just them selves, but the minors (Im talking about actual kids not teens) and the pets too, people and animals who had no choice in being there. It will look bad on the cops (leftest version of Ruby Ridge or Waco) even with out the media smearing the cops.
 
It goes without saying, but if any Kiwis are forced into these kind of diversity meetings, record it and leak it anonymously. (Not here, where it can be traced to your username; on a burner account somewhere else.) Same with the training materials. Your company doesn't deserve your protection if they put you through this.
If you're doing recordings, try not to make it obvious who was doing it from your seat position either.
 
If you're doing recordings, try not to make it obvious who was doing it from your seat position either.
this. take any videos/picture you take and center it directly on the target in question. For example, if its a whiteboard, tv screen, or whatever, make sure to go into an editing software and only focus on whats important. The quality might be shit but its either shit quality, or your reputation getting ruined and getting fired. Dont show any walls or anything
 
“When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.”
- Sun Tzu

Sure you can surround these people, but the issue is, every antifa supporting fucker I know is mentally ill in the "has been or most likely will be a danger to them selves or others" way. They are already desperate why else has this been going on for the better part of 90 days. What happens when their backs are against the (metaphorical) wall surrounded by police, there is a good chance one if not many will snap and pull out their bats/IEDs made from fireworks, possible pipe bombs, etc and harm and/or kill not just them selves, but the minors (Im talking about actual kids not teens) and the pets too, people and animals who had no choice in being there. It will look bad on the cops (leftest version of Ruby Ridge or Waco) even with out the media smearing the cops.
We've seen many instances where the Blacked Bloc got surrounded and mass arrested, and they didn't do shit other than fold. It's better for the cops to dictate how these riots play out rather than let the rioters pick where and when to burn, loot and murder. Give the rioters a big juicy police line to riot in front of with few outlets other than forward into the line or back, declare it a riot when they start the usual jogging, then block them and roll them up from the back using riot transports. Maybe a lenient DA will let them off the hook, but at least they'll be off the street for the night so they can't destroy more businesses. It would make the cops look like they're taking measures to restore order and garner trust with a public that is increasingly turning against BLM, and all blame for continued rioting gets laid at the feet of the DA.

Saying the cops can't box them in because someone might do something crazy reeks of Trudea-esque "kill your enemies and they win" logic. Everytime people see rioters doing some horrifying and objectional thing, support for BLM takes a massive hit. Just because it's an optics war doesn't mean the cops should give up on doing anything that would be effective.
 
Interesting how there are only about 10 peaceful protesters in that entire image.
I like how it's encouraged to move them to the front to help body police from the "ranged".
Honestly, how much of this is just a game to them?

It is a game really. An optics game. The legal system, politicians, the media, in those small areas, are totally on their side. The Police and Feds, are in the worst spot. They have to not only try and protect people and property. But also keep their head well enough to know if they make one mistake which the protestors are trying to bait, they are just giving optics to the media machine.

If anything these people aren't being paid a tenth of what they deserve. I don't think I would have the self control after 90 days not to choke out some mentally ill Trans-Buttershy Witch Marxist with the latest MLP merch and Chinese made Apple Iphone 10 screaming Nazi in your face for hours.
 
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Going by the autistic Total War: Warhammer Fantasy metaphor, wouldn't this be a perfect setup for a suprise flank to antifa's rear, with a quick unit (such as prison vans)? After about 50 ft, there's not enough of a crowd to fall back into, and any attempt to pull back to support the rear weakens the frontline. Especially if you take turns hitting them from the sides as well, with grab-and-fall back motions to force the group into a tight circle, before using area attacks like smoke grenades and staining paint sprays (mixed with plenty of fake duds to prevent them from handling them all).

I've complained about the same thing, but after watching 80 nights of this crap, I think there's three reasons why it doesn't happen.

1) The cops are going by-the-book to an infuriating degree. They know they're on camera, they don't want to create martyrs. So they have to pretend that each protest starts out peaceful, and that they're just dispersing the crowd from the problem direction. Flanking from behind looks like an attack, not a clearing action.

2) In the better-organized cities like Portland and Seattle, Antifa actually sets up sentries to check side streets for cop vans. Some of the "press" streamers have them too. I've heard them reporting in on streams, saying "no cops on the road to the west". Obviously they can't have 100% coverage, but if the cops swing in a block behind them, the sentries call the organizers or "press" to let them know.

3) You only flank enemies if you want to crush them. Cops don't want to, and they can't, under their current procedures.

In Warhammer you flank, kill the first batch of enemies you encounter, then move on to the next. The first line is dead and no longer a threat. But IRL, every arrest requires 3-5 cops, to surround an unwilling suspect, wrestle them to the ground, have others ward off the "de-arrest" attempts of the mob trying to pull the suspect away, then escort the suspect back to a van for transport. They can't just crush a line of protesters and move on. They need to outnumber the crowd by 5x to even try.

And they can't just crack skulls and keep moving. Early in June, there were some incidents where individual cops got separated and left behind by the advancing line, and they got surrounded by protesters who followed behind the line. PDs got a lot more disciplined about that in the following months, and they always clear the area behind them as they advance, including the sides. But you can't secure the area behind you if you're just quickly bopping a large crowd then leaving them to recover behind your ranks.

If they ever got serious about making mass arrests, I think the feds and PD in Portland could easily do it at this point. It would require more flashbangs and rubber bullets than gas, though, because they would need to hit the crowd from behind and scatter them hard. The goal would be to disperse the mass instantly, instead of corralling them in a direction, then arrest the casualties left behind. And I do mean casualties--no macing or disorientation will keep these protesters subdued enough to make a difference.

But no PD in the nation has the guts to take on those optics right now. (Well, maybe Chicago PD, but I don't know for how long.)
 
“When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.”
- Sun Tzu

Sure you can surround these people, but the issue is, every antifa supporting fucker I know is mentally ill in the "has been or most likely will be a danger to them selves or others" way. They are already desperate why else has this been going on for the better part of 90 days. What happens when their backs are against the (metaphorical) wall surrounded by police, there is a good chance one if not many will snap and pull out their bats/IEDs made from fireworks, possible pipe bombs, etc and harm and/or kill not just them selves, but the minors (Im talking about actual kids not teens) and the pets too, people and animals who had no choice in being there. It will look bad on the cops (leftest version of Ruby Ridge or Waco) even with out the media smearing the cops.
This shit happened a lot in the late 60s and early 70s. I remenber bombings in NYC and elsewhere, most famously when the Weather Underground people discovered in a West 11th Street brownstone that they were nowhere near as good bombmakers trigger makers as they thought they were. The survivors went on to rob a Brinks armored car in Nyack in 1981, killing a Brinks guard and a couple of cops. They and their dusky brethren all got caught and went to jail. Then most of them -- certainly the white wymen among them -- got released and are now indoctrinating others and are praised for it. The bonus is that the bastard of one of them, Chesa Boudin, is now the San Francisco d.a., while its communist whore mother, Kathy Boudin, is spending her post-jailbird life as a Columbia University professor. I shit you not.
 
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Going by the autistic Total War: Warhammer Fantasy metaphor, wouldn't this be a perfect setup for a suprise flank to antifa's rear, with a quick unit (such as prison vans)? After about 50 ft, there's not enough of a crowd to fall back into, and any attempt to pull back to support the rear weakens the frontline. Especially if you take turns hitting them from the sides as well, with grab-and-fall back motions to force the group into a tight circle, before using area attacks like smoke grenades and staining paint sprays (mixed with plenty of fake duds to prevent them from handling them all).
“When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.”
- Sun Tzu

Sure you can surround these people, but the issue is, every antifa supporting fucker I know is mentally ill in the "has been or most likely will be a danger to them selves or others" way. They are already desperate why else has this been going on for the better part of 90 days. What happens when their backs are against the (metaphorical) wall surrounded by police, there is a good chance one if not many will snap and pull out their bats/IEDs made from fireworks, possible pipe bombs, etc and harm and/or kill not just them selves, but the minors (Im talking about actual kids not teens) and the pets too, people and animals who had no choice in being there. It will look bad on the cops (leftest version of Ruby Ridge or Waco) even with out the media smearing the cops.

We've seen many instances where the Blacked Bloc got surrounded and mass arrested, and they didn't do shit other than fold. It's better for the cops to dictate how these riots play out rather than let the rioters pick where and when to burn, loot and murder. Give the rioters a big juicy police line to riot in front of with few outlets other than forward into the line or back, declare it a riot when they start the usual jogging, then block them and roll them up from the back using riot transports. Maybe a lenient DA will let them off the hook, but at least they'll be off the street for the night so they can't destroy more businesses. It would make the cops look like they're taking measures to restore order and garner trust with a public that is increasingly turning against BLM, and all blame for continued rioting gets laid at the feet of the DA.

Saying the cops can't box them in because someone might do something crazy reeks of Trudea-esque "kill your enemies and they win" logic. Everytime people see rioters doing some horrifying and objectional thing, support for BLM takes a massive hit. Just because it's an optics war doesn't mean the cops should give up on doing anything that would be effective.
"dont encircle them because that will provoke them and make them fight with desperation" isn't the reason why this isn't done.
the reason it isn't done is because the political leadership that controls the police doesn't want it done, and because the police know that even if they arrest 1000 antifa in one night, they'll all be let off the hook immediately by corrupt DAs anyway, so why bother?

if the police actually wanted to crack down on them, they would do it. boxing them in would be child's play because all this shit is happening in urban areas where everything is a narrow chokepoint that can be closed off with a couple of heavy vehicles and a few dozen men.
>set up perimeter
>wall off protest area from all sides
>announce to protesters that they are surrounded
>make it clear that the only way out is being arrested
then just wait until their morale breaks due to thirst, hunger, cold and fatigue. keep them contained like that for maybe a day or two, and their fighting spirit will be 100% obliterated. they'd be begginh police to please arrest them so they can finally get access to fresh water, showers, toilets, and sleep again.
 
“When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.”
- Sun Tzu

Sure you can surround these people, but the issue is, every antifa supporting fucker I know is mentally ill in the "has been or most likely will be a danger to them selves or others" way. They are already desperate why else has this been going on for the better part of 90 days. What happens when their backs are against the (metaphorical) wall surrounded by police, there is a good chance one if not many will snap and pull out their bats/IEDs made from fireworks, possible pipe bombs, etc and harm and/or kill not just them selves, but the minors (Im talking about actual kids not teens) and the pets too, people and animals who had no choice in being there. It will look bad on the cops (leftest version of Ruby Ridge or Waco) even with out the media smearing the cops.

Although I see your point, I don't believe that happened in Chicago when those protestors were surrounded.

It would depend on what your end goal is as well. Arresting them would end the violence for a night, scare a few straight, but leave others pumped up. Routing them, forcing them to retreat, would demoralize them eventually. Especially night after night. They would give up at some point and stop rioting.

We haven't seen that be successful yet because these are bored kids who have been handled with kid gloves.
 
Kathy Boudin, is spending her post-jailbird life as a Columbia University professor.
And how did she get a honey of a plea deal while all the other joggers in the crew got sentenced to life? Why, by enlisting the services of Leonard Weinglass, lawyer and co-chairman of the international committee of the National Lawyers Guild.

Gotta credit @Forgetful Gynn for making me aware of the NLG, it really shows how interconnected all this shit is.
 
the reason it isn't done is because the political leadership that controls the police doesn't want it done, and because the police know that even if they arrest 1000 antifa in one night, they'll all be let off the hook immediately by corrupt DAs anyway, so why bother?
Also for the reason that the dog doesn't really want to catch the car. What would it do with it? By chasing them away, the cops send them home stinking of smoke and teargas and piss and sweat, They have to look after themselves, tend their own bruises, dispose of their own ruined clothes, and generally make mom's basement unlivable. As opposed to the cops having to babysit them. The cops thinking, ultimately correctly, that because they're at bottom lazy fucks they'll give up when it isn't fun anymore and is not bringing that dream of one day getting laid any closer.
 
We've seen many instances where the Blacked Bloc got surrounded and mass arrested, and they didn't do shit other than fold. It's better for the cops to dictate how these riots play out rather than let the rioters pick where and when to burn, loot and murder. Give the rioters a big juicy police line to riot in front of with few outlets other than forward into the line or back, declare it a riot when they start the usual jogging, then block them and roll them up from the back using riot transports. Maybe a lenient DA will let them off the hook, but at least they'll be off the street for the night so they can't destroy more businesses. It would make the cops look like they're taking measures to restore order and garner trust with a public that is increasingly turning against BLM, and all blame for continued rioting gets laid at the feet of the DA.

Saying the cops can't box them in because someone might do something crazy reeks of Trudea-esque "kill your enemies and they win" logic. Everytime people see rioters doing some horrifying and objectional thing, support for BLM takes a massive hit. Just because it's an optics war doesn't mean the cops should give up on doing anything that would be effective.

I am specifally talking about Portland where its been over 80 nights of this, Portland rioters attacked police in hand to hand fighting when they try to "de-arrest" people.

"dont encircle them because that will provoke them and make them fight with desperation" isn't the reason why this isn't done.
the reason it isn't done is because the political leadership that controls the police doesn't want it done, and because the police know that even if they arrest 1000 antifa in one night, they'll all be let off the hook immediately by corrupt DAs anyway, so why bother?

if the police actually wanted to crack down on them, they would do it. boxing them in would be child's play because all this shit is happening in urban areas where everything is a narrow chokepoint that can be closed off with a couple of heavy vehicles and a few dozen men.
>set up perimeter
>wall off protest area from all sides
>announce to protesters that they are surrounded
>make it clear that the only way out is being arrested
then just wait until their morale breaks due to thirst, hunger, cold and fatigue. keep them contained like that for maybe a day or two, and their fighting spirit will be 100% obliterated. they'd be begginh police to please arrest them so they can finally get access to fresh water, showers, toilets, and sleep again.
Sure the Dems are allowing this to go on, but even the Feds when they were attacking the federal buildings, had chances to surround them and didn't, there were times were the feds flanked the mob with out the mob realizing it. The feds would basically direct the rioters in where the feds wanted them to go, which was the rioters "means of escape".

Although I see your point, I don't believe that happened in Chicago when those protestors were surrounded.

It would depend on what your end goal is as well. Arresting them would end the violence for a night, scare a few straight, but leave others pumped up. Routing them, forcing them to retreat, would demoralize them eventually. Especially night after night. They would give up at some point and stop rioting.

We haven't seen that be successful yet because these are bored kids who have been handled with kid gloves.
Chicago although have had riots for BLM in the past (the Columbus riot for example) it hasn't been nightly and the ones just there to get free shit were still around in Chicago, Portland rioters are Antifa "true believers" or Antifa zealots if you will, the people there a vast majority don't just want to loot were gone a long while ago.
 
And how did she get a honey of a plea deal while all the other joggers in the crew got sentenced to life? Why, by enlisting the services of Leonard Weinglass, lawyer and co-chairman of the international committee of the National Lawyers Guild.

Gotta credit @Forgetful Gynn for making me aware of the NLG, it really shows how interconnected all this shit is.
Her daddy, Leonard Boudin, was also an NLG lawyer. As the old saying goes, the shit doesn't fall far from the asshole.
 
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