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No, it's a Desert Eagle.

I would love to own an FK BRNO. I seriously hope the new version with the polymer frame and the ability to swap between 9mm Para, 10mm Auto, and 7.5fk comes out eventually. As much as I love the original all-metal version, I just can't swing $7000 to drop on a handgun. But $2000 for the new version is definitely something I'd happily spend.
oh shit. i didn't know they were making a new one at less than a third of the price! thanks for that info, now its either that or an MP5 pistol on my list...

But what is that large bottlenecked cartrige in your post then? I dont recognize its design
 
oh shit. i didn't know they were making a new one at less than a third of the price! thanks for that info, now its either that or an MP5 pistol on my list...

But what is that large bottlenecked cartrige in your post then? I dont recognize its design

From left to right the cartridges are .357 sig, .429 Desert Eagle and .50 Action Express. I've got all the common caliber stuff, so I've started collecting stuff that fires oddball rounds. I'm also expecting the .429DE to go the way of the .440 cor-bon, even if the round is much more reliable.
 
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Any recommended upgrades for a stock Rem 870? It was gifted to me. I plan to get as short of a barrel as possible (without having to file for an SBS), and a better stock because this one is a shitty ATI.

Home defense in mind, not hunting. I have a 1918 BSA Lee Enfield .303 for that.
 
I was just looking on FK BRNO's US site and it looks like the new PSD is available to order finally. You can either order it with a 9mm Para caliber conversion, or with a 10mm/.40 S&W conversion. FK BRNO is claiming that their 10mm barrel can also safely chamber and shoot .40 S&W, which makes sense since .40 is just a cut down 10mm. The 7.5fk magazines will also accept 10mm and .40 S&W cartridges, but if you decide to go with the 9mm conversion it comes with two 9mm only mags and a lighter recoil spring along with the 9mm barrel. And the price is much lower than I was anticipating. I was expecting it to be at least $2000, but the MSRP on their site is $1650. I'm going to have to figure out how to get one. I've been waiting about two years for it to finally hit the US market.

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View attachment 1519592Any recommended upgrades for a stock Rem 870? It was gifted to me. I plan to get as short of a barrel as possible (without having to file for an SBS), and a better stock because this one is a shitty ATI.

Home defense in mind, not hunting. I have a 1918 BSA Lee Enfield .303 for that.

Check out Mesa Tactical. They make a lot of quality "tactical" accessories for the Rem 870, from AR stock adapters, to shotshell side saddles, to optics rails, to barrel shrouds. You can get an 18" barrel for your 870 easily and a magazine tube extension and new follower spring. Surefire still makes their foregrip/pump handle with integrated flashlight, or you could get a railed foregrip and attach any weapon light you like as long as it'll mount to a picatinny rail. Lots of options out there to pimp out your old pump gun and make it a better home defense weapon.
 
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I want a want a rem 870. Also I want to know how to replace the plastic sights on a 22lr revolver.
 
The one advantage of Canuckistani gun laws is that short barrelled shotguns are non-restricted as long as they have OAL of at least 26".

That means you can pick up something like this for less than $300 CAD within 5 minutes at LGS as long as you got a license.
 
I was just looking on FK BRNO's US site and it looks like the new PSD is available to order finally. You can either order it with a 9mm Para caliber conversion, or with a 10mm/.40 S&W conversion. FK BRNO is claiming that their 10mm barrel can also safely chamber and shoot .40 S&W, which makes sense since .40 is just a cut down 10mm. The 7.5fk magazines will also accept 10mm and .40 S&W cartridges, but if you decide to go with the 9mm conversion it comes with two 9mm only mags and a lighter recoil spring along with the 9mm barrel. And the price is much lower than I was anticipating. I was expecting it to be at least $2000, but the MSRP on their site is $1650. I'm going to have to figure out how to get one. I've been waiting about two years for it to finally hit the US market.

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Check out Mesa Tactical. They make a lot of quality "tactical" accessories for the Rem 870, from AR stock adapters, to shotshell side saddles, to optics rails, to barrel shrouds. You can get an 18" barrel for your 870 easily and a magazine tube extension and new follower spring. Surefire still makes their foregrip/pump handle with integrated flashlight, or you could get a railed foregrip and attach any weapon light you like as long as it'll mount to a picatinny rail. Lots of options out there to pimp out your old pump gun and make it a better home defense weapon.
Man, bottlenecked cartridges are pure sex. I'm just getting into .357 SIG now of all times and I'm kind of hoping it comes in it even though that cartridge is on death's door at this point.
 
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Man, bottlenecked cartridges are pure sex. I'm just getting into .357 SIG now of all times and I'm kind of hoping it comes in it even though that cartridge is on death's door at this point.

.357 SIG is a pretty cool cartridge, but really it's time of obsolescence is arriving. It was never really a popular cartridge and not many departments/agencies adopted it. It seems like the Secret Service, the Delaware State Police, US Air Marshals, Bureau of Industry and Security, Texas Department of Public Safety, Virginia State Police, and Montana Highway Patrol were the only agencies/departments who issued it as their primary service pistol cartridge for any real length of time, and there are a few others who have adopted it more recently, but compared to .40 S&W, 9mm, and .45 ACP, it is a pretty rare duck and I don't think it's going to stick around long considering modern +P+ 9mm ammo performs just as well with lighter recoil, higher capacity, wider bullet options, and better availability.

Hell, more and more departments/agencies are even dropping .40 S&W and going back to 9mm because newer bullet designs have improved it's effectiveness well above what it was in the 80s and 90s, and with lower recoil and higher capacity. Even the FBI is moving away from .40 S&W and going back to 9mm, and they were the ones responsible for the creation of .40 S&W (because their city slicker agents were too pussified to handle 10mm Auto when they adopted the cartridge in the early 90s). Their new contract for duty sidearms with GLOCK is for GLOCK 17Ms and 19Ms, though special agents will likely still be allowed to buy, qualify, and carry GLOCK 21s, 22s, and 23s if the agent prefers to carry those calibers, and the subcompact GLOCKs in the same caliber as their primary sidearm as backups like they have been for years.

It is kind of a shame that .357 SIG didn't get more recognition and popularity. It's goal to offer similar performance as a 124gr .357 Magnum with higher capacity, lower recoil, and faster reloads than a wheelgun was admirable, but then a lot of cartridges/weapons fail to live up to the potential we may see in them. My beloved 10mm Auto is finally gaining the following I always felt it should have, and more and more ammunition companies are loading it to it's full potential instead of basically making it an overly-long .40 Short and Wimpy. Because for the longest time anyone who made 10mm was loading it to the asinine FBI Special Light Load specs, which is what the original loading specs for .40 S&W were based on. The .41 Magnum always deserved more love I've always felt, but aside from a similar situation as .357 SIG where a handful of departments adopted S&W Model 57s and 58s (usually for highway patrolmen and motorcycle troopers), most departments were happy with .357 Magnum and most sportsmen figured .44 Magnum was superior because it was "bigger" despite it only being marginally more "powerful".

.357 SIG kind of found itself in the same rut as .41 Magnum where departments/agencies had a hard time seeing the point of adopting it when there were several other perfectly serviceable cartridges on the market. Why have the same capacity as a .40 S&W with a smaller, lighter bullet? Why have the same bullet diameter as a 9mm and carry less ammo? Plus it tended to be more expensive than 9mm and .40 S&W, fewer ammunition manufacturers offered it, and fewer gun manufacturers chambered their firearms for it compared to the Big Three (9mm, .40, and .45).

But I'll never tell anyone that they're wrong for owning or buying whatever weapon or caliber they want. I totally get feeling the "fizz" over a certain weapon or cartridge. I absolutely love my Smith and Wesson 57 and the .41 Magnum it's chambered for. Would I be just as well serviced with a S&W 29 in .44 Mag or Model 27, 28, or 686 in .357 Mag? Probably. I love those guns and cartridges too. But I really love that the .41 Mag bridges the gap between those two cartridges and is an excellent balance of their performance. Nearly the same muzzle energy as .44 Mag, but flatter shooting and felt recoil is closer to .357 Mag. The 7.5fk gives me the same fizzy feelings and I've wanted an FK BRNO ever since the Field Pistol hit the market. I just don't have $7500 to drop on one. But I'll definitely be doing what I can to get the PSD since $1650 is doable for me, and it has the benefit of being able to also chamber more affordable ammo that's more widely available. I'll likely get it with the 10mm/.40 S&W barrel for the second barrel since I don't own a 10mm Auto at this moment, but I'll likely also get the 9mm barrel, recoil spring, and magazines to be able to take full advantage of the PSD being a multi-caliber firearm. Firearms that can swap calibers have always had found a soft spot with me. I just think it's awesome that you can have one gun that can utilize a wider variety of ammunition. It allows you to use the cheaper stuff for practice and training, and save the expensive stuff for when you might need it to end a problem. Of course, if you carry a gun you should always practice with the ammunition you plan on having in it when you carry so you know how it'll act if you actually have to use it, but it's like when .357 Magnum was the most widely used sidearm cartridge with law enforcement. Officers would practice mostly with .38 Specials loaded in their sidearms, then switch to .357 Mag to qualify and when they were on duty.

Edit: tl;dr: Bottlenecked cartridges are awesome, some weapons/cartridges don't get the love they maybe should, sometimes cartridges become obsolete because new technology or manufacturing makes older cartridges perform at the same or similar level, buy what you like and be happy because fuck what anyone else thinks.
 
.357 SIG is a pretty cool cartridge, but really it's time of obsolescence is arriving. It was never really a popular cartridge and not many departments/agencies adopted it. It seems like the Secret Service, the Delaware State Police, US Air Marshals, Bureau of Industry and Security, Texas Department of Public Safety, Virginia State Police, and Montana Highway Patrol were the only agencies/departments who issued it as their primary service pistol cartridge for any real length of time, and there are a few others who have adopted it more recently, but compared to .40 S&W, 9mm, and .45 ACP, it is a pretty rare duck and I don't think it's going to stick around long considering modern +P+ 9mm ammo performs just as well with lighter recoil, higher capacity, wider bullet options, and better availability.

Hell, more and more departments/agencies are even dropping .40 S&W and going back to 9mm because newer bullet designs have improved it's effectiveness well above what it was in the 80s and 90s, and with lower recoil and higher capacity. Even the FBI is moving away from .40 S&W and going back to 9mm, and they were the ones responsible for the creation of .40 S&W (because their city slicker agents were too pussified to handle 10mm Auto when they adopted the cartridge in the early 90s). Their new contract for duty sidearms with GLOCK is for GLOCK 17Ms and 19Ms, though special agents will likely still be allowed to buy, qualify, and carry GLOCK 21s, 22s, and 23s if the agent prefers to carry those calibers, and the subcompact GLOCKs in the same caliber as their primary sidearm as backups like they have been for years.

It is kind of a shame that .357 SIG didn't get more recognition and popularity. It's goal to offer similar performance as a 124gr .357 Magnum with higher capacity, lower recoil, and faster reloads than a wheelgun was admirable, but then a lot of cartridges/weapons fail to live up to the potential we may see in them. My beloved 10mm Auto is finally gaining the following I always felt it should have, and more and more ammunition companies are loading it to it's full potential instead of basically making it an overly-long .40 Short and Wimpy. Because for the longest time anyone who made 10mm was loading it to the asinine FBI Special Light Load specs, which is what the original loading specs for .40 S&W were based on. The .41 Magnum always deserved more love I've always felt, but aside from a similar situation as .357 SIG where a handful of departments adopted S&W Model 57s and 58s (usually for highway patrolmen and motorcycle troopers), most departments were happy with .357 Magnum and most sportsmen figured .44 Magnum was superior because it was "bigger" despite it only being marginally more "powerful".

.357 SIG kind of found itself in the same rut as .41 Magnum where departments/agencies had a hard time seeing the point of adopting it when there were several other perfectly serviceable cartridges on the market. Why have the same capacity as a .40 S&W with a smaller, lighter bullet? Why have the same bullet diameter as a 9mm and carry less ammo? Plus it tended to be more expensive than 9mm and .40 S&W, fewer ammunition manufacturers offered it, and fewer gun manufacturers chambered their firearms for it compared to the Big Three (9mm, .40, and .45).

But I'll never tell anyone that they're wrong for owning or buying whatever weapon or caliber they want. I totally get feeling the "fizz" over a certain weapon or cartridge. I absolutely love my Smith and Wesson 57 and the .41 Magnum it's chambered for. Would I be just as well serviced with a S&W 29 in .44 Mag or Model 27, 28, or 686 in .357 Mag? Probably. I love those guns and cartridges too. But I really love that the .41 Mag bridges the gap between those two cartridges and is an excellent balance of their performance. Nearly the same muzzle energy as .44 Mag, but flatter shooting and felt recoil is closer to .357 Mag. The 7.5fk gives me the same fizzy feelings and I've wanted an FK BRNO ever since the Field Pistol hit the market. I just don't have $7500 to drop on one. But I'll definitely be doing what I can to get the PSD since $1650 is doable for me, and it has the benefit of being able to also chamber more affordable ammo that's more widely available. I'll likely get it with the 10mm/.40 S&W barrel for the second barrel since I don't own a 10mm Auto at this moment, but I'll likely also get the 9mm barrel, recoil spring, and magazines to be able to take full advantage of the PSD being a multi-caliber firearm. Firearms that can swap calibers have always had found a soft spot with me. I just think it's awesome that you can have one gun that can utilize a wider variety of ammunition. It allows you to use the cheaper stuff for practice and training, and save the expensive stuff for when you might need it to end a problem. Of course, if you carry a gun you should always practice with the ammunition you plan on having in it when you carry so you know how it'll act if you actually have to use it, but it's like when .357 Magnum was the most widely used sidearm cartridge with law enforcement. Officers would practice mostly with .38 Specials loaded in their sidearms, then switch to .357 Mag to qualify and when they were on duty.

Edit: tl;dr: Bottlenecked cartridges are awesome, some weapons/cartridges don't get the love they maybe should, sometimes cartridges become obsolete because new technology or manufacturing makes older cartridges perform at the same or similar level, buy what you like and be happy because fuck what anyone else thinks.
Yeah, I just hope it's still obtainable enough in gun stores for a while and doesn't go the way of obscure cartridges that you practically have to reload and make your own brass for like .40 Super, .400 Corbon or even 9x25 Dillon. It's a barrel for a .40 P229 I have so it at least won't become a paperweight since even though .40 is no longer the LE meta I doubt it's going away anytime soon. And yeah I'm definitely enjoying the 10mm renaissance too, been able to stock up on warm enough loads at reasonable prices while 9, 40, and 45 are flying off the shelves.
 
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I'm going to have to start carrying for a new job and I have a question for whoever. In condition one carry when you're done carrying for the day are you supposed to clear the gun or leave the chamber hot? If it's clear the chamber then is it ok to cycle the same bullet every day for however long and if it's hot chamber is there any plausible danger of cookoff over time?
 
i've hit peak autism. i'm trying to find these howling raven brand 10 round magazine extensions for my mosin nagant and they just don't fuckin' exist any more. i don't know what to do! the only option now is for something fuck ugly and i have some standards
 
I swapped out the tan VZ grip scales that came with my Dan Wesson to these green VZ grips in their Fallout pattern. I really love how they look and feel, and they go a lot better with my holster. I've also ordered a matching double mag carrier from the same guy who made my holster. And my CFL should be here in about a month. It'll be nice to carry all the time again, because the world has become fucking nuts.

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I'm going to have to start carrying for a new job and I have a question for whoever. In condition one carry when you're done carrying for the day are you supposed to clear the gun or leave the chamber hot? If it's clear the chamber then is it ok to cycle the same bullet every day for however long and if it's hot chamber is there any plausible danger of cookoff over time?

I carry for work as well (GLOCK 22: my least favorite major pistol brand and my least favorite handgun cartridge) and I carry Condition One and just keep everything as-is when I get home, simply removing my sidearm from the holster and place it in my pistol locker. When I get dressed for work I remove the pistol from the locker and immediately holster it. The company I work for doesn't really have any regulations or guidelines about it. However, I do know that rechambering the same cartridge over and over again can lead to the bullet being pressed back into the case over time, which can compress the powder and lead to an unpredictable powder ignition, and that can be dangerous. If you chose to completely clear your sidearm every night then I'd recommend rotating the ammunition in your magazines so it isn't the same cartridge being rechambered every time to avoid the above happening.
 
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I carry for work as well (GLOCK 22: my least favorite major pistol brand and my least favorite handgun cartridge) and I carry Condition One and just keep everything as-is when I get home, simply removing my sidearm from the holster and place it in my pistol locker. When I get dressed for work I remove the pistol from the locker and immediately holster it. The company I work for doesn't really have any regulations or guidelines about it. However, I do know that rechambering the same cartridge over and over again can lead to the bullet being pressed back into the case over time, which can compress the powder and lead to an unpredictable powder ignition, and that can be dangerous. If you chose to completely clear your sidearm every night then I'd recommend rotating the ammunition in your magazines so it isn't the same cartridge being rechambered every time to avoid the above happening.
This is exactly what I needed to know. A million thanks and if I ever see you at the pub I owe you a pint.
 
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Is anybody here still finding ammo?

I have an emergency supply of a few hundred each of .22lr, 9mm and 5.56mm, but I’m a fucking moron and didn’t stock up enough for range practice.

I’m comfortable eating into my larger .22lr supply for a few trips since I’m a new shooter and learning the fundamentals, but I’m extremely hesitant to go more than once with the other rounds since that will leave me fairly low.

At any rate, I’m wondering if you guys know of anywhere online that has stock left at reasonable prices. I have a sinking feeling I’m going to have to just accept the gouged prices like a sucker, but I figured it was worth asking.
 
Is anybody here still finding ammo?

I have an emergency supply of a few hundred each of .22lr, 9mm and 5.56mm, but I’m a fucking moron and didn’t stock up enough for range practice.

I’m comfortable eating into my larger .22lr supply for a few trips since I’m a new shooter and learning the fundamentals, but I’m extremely hesitant to go more than once with the other rounds since that will leave me fairly low.

At any rate, I’m wondering if you guys know of anywhere online that has stock left at reasonable prices. I have a sinking feeling I’m going to have to just accept the gouged prices like a sucker, but I figured it was worth asking.

If there's an indoor gun range near you, check there. Most of those places keep surplus and if it's a mom and pop kind of place they'll normally be reasonable. I got some bulk .556 for my Saint last week for about 100.
 
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If there's an indoor gun range near you, check there. Most of those places keep surplus and if it's a mom and pop kind of place they'll normally be reasonable. I got some bulk .556 for my Saint last week for about 100.
There are a few, thanks for the tip!

I have an outdoor range membership but if the math works out it may be worth just renting a lane and paying for the ammo at an indoor range if they’re unwilling to let me buy it to take home.
 
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Living in NJ the gun laws are terrible and may be getting worse soon. But oddly enough I can for the time being order Barret crossbows and Orion flare guns. I'm trying to save money to stock up on those and crossbow pistols. The only major drawbacks to crossbows is there not crowd stoppers. The time to load another bolt is a huge drawback which is why a flare gun as a back up would be a good idea. Ive seen videos on them going off and they sound like live fire and a glowing ball of phosphorus that could potentially start a fire could help in a crowd situation.


Of course I hope it'll never have to come to ever needing to use a weapon but uk the saying better to have and not need a weapon than to need one and not have it
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12 gauge 00 Buckshot.
I figured that might be the answer. Shotguns also give you the benefit of the doubt because they're a horrible choice for spree/vigilante killing.

Would a slug induce hydrostatic shock quicker than buckshot would drop them from blood loss? And more importantly, would it be as lethal? As horrible as it sounds, I don't want someone trying to kill me to survive the first shot because they'll probably just come back later to finish the job (or sue me) and I certainly don't want to fire multiple times if I don't have to.

I know the basics of guns and what happens when you get shot by one but I've never done much research on the specifics of each ammo type.
 
As long as we're gun sperging, here's a question. What kind of (reasonably obtainable) round is most likely to stop someone in the shortest time with the fewest shots? It's looking more and more like I might have to get a gun to defend my family in the near future, and one of the most successful emotional arguments against self defense is "he shot more than [arbitrary number] times! only a cold blooded killer shoots more times than the secret number!"

I figure if an intruder goes down in a single shot, I'm less likely to get life times thirty million for defending my life in a racist manner or whatever.

And yes, I'm already very familiar with my local laws. I know how to not explicitly break the law, but I'm more concerned with an activist judge ignoring the facts because it makes her look good on Twitter.
Non handgun 12 and 20 gauge slugs, handgun that's fairly available .357 magnum or .45 .
 
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