US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
That doesn't sound physically possible. NEW YORK? He couldn't have meant upstate New York either since they trend red anyway.

In 2016 Hillary got 59% of the vote, and Trump 36%. That's a 23% gap, so a 5% difference is really something.
Could it be related to how widely despised De Blasio is? Or maybe Cuomo's unscrupulousness?

And I get its an internal GOP poll, but consider this. Some stranger calls you and tells you they're with a polling company and they would like to know 1) Whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or Independent, and 2) If you're voting for Trump or Biden in November?
Are you gonna honestly tell the truth? How many people lie and say they're voting Biden on the off chance the caller is lying and is secretly some cancel culture warrior (or antifa) scouring the neighbourhood for enemies? Even if thats a paranoid take, you, as a Trump supporter, gain NOTHING from telling the truth.
So with that in mind, either the poll is bogus or it, along with most professional polls, aren't considering the 'shy Trump' effect.
 
In 2016 Trump actually did cause a stronger Republican turnout in New York than Romney did in 2012, though he is a New Yorker himself so there will be some more willing to vote for a guy from their state. Flipping New York red would take an act of God, like 90% of people living in NYC would have to drop dead for it to happen.

In NYC Hillary won almost 80% of the vote, Trump got around 18%. One surprising win for him was Suffolk County which had gone to Obama previously and the last time a Republican won Suffolk County was Dubya's dad in 1992.
Hopefully, the desire people in NYC have to end De Blasio will cause a major shift. However, the city makes the state as blue as an ocean. Would be nice to see NY turn red again in my lifetime, though.
 
In 2016 Trump actually did cause a stronger Republican turnout in New York than Romney did in 2012, though he is a New Yorker himself so there will be some more willing to vote for a guy from their state. Flipping New York red would take an act of God, like 90% of people living in NYC would have to drop dead for it to happen.

I kinda half-joked with someone recently that equivalent exchange will need to occur in order to flip either California or New York red, which means Florida and/or Texas will have to flip blue in return.

But this is 2020, apparently the year of uncertainty and surprises. If it's not a complete 0% chance, I guess anything's possible.
 
Hopefully, the desire people in NYC have to end De Blasio will cause a major shift. However, the city makes the state as blue as an ocean. Would be nice to see NY turn red again in my lifetime, though.
NYC would only turn red if the Democrat platform suddenly became anti-Israel.

Which is to say, this is very unlikely to ever happen.
 
NYC would only turn red if the Democrat platform suddenly became anti-Israel.

Which is to say, this is very unlikely to ever happen.

Look at Louis Rossman's videos about the state of nyc, it might be that people are fed up with the democrats. He rides through the streets and they're empty most of the time.
 
I don't see New York ever being Red , but, I think a saner representative for all the Blue is going to have to evolve in response.

Especially if people they take for granted are getting angry enough with current leadership to cause the numbers to look "Bad" for an "in the bag" state. Trump getting 25% of the vote there wouldn't be close to a threat to not win the state, but strategists and pollsters and pundits with half a brain have to realize that if a quarter of Manhattan isn't voting for a Democrat... they're in serious trouble as a party.

More than anything, I just want saner Democrats, I wouldn't fret about them getting power if they DIDN'T all believe in out-there social justice insanity, contempt of the 1st and 2nd Amendments, open borders, no police and all thatkindofstufflikethaththere...

I merely disliked Clinton for being a 90's Democrat, but actively chafed under the liberal-progrssiveness of mid 00 Obama an co. as it was clear not only did they hate red America, they were actively trying to end it and were joking about how they'd do it.... openly.... because that was "the right side of history".

I'd like the blue politicians to go back to being "the opposition" and not "the enemy" and I can't consider that to be a possibility until they drop the globalist-socialist nonsense and start caring about people, or failing that, supporting policies that focus on making life better for Americans for their social-tinkering fix instead of actively trying to replace/eliminate huge swaths of said population for not passing their social-purity checks and being too independent to just vote for them again and again for gibs. Essentially "not what we wanted in an electorate, send it back and get me a better one, in a different color too".

At least ol Bill said "I feel your pain" when confronted with unemployed middle-class people in Iowa, Obama told them "Well, that's the new normal, you're just obsolete now, sorry" and Hillary said "Coal miners? YOU'RE NEXT!"

Everyone would benefit from a Democrat that at least will waste taxpayer money on actual Americans before Mexicans.
 
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Look at Louis Rossman's videos about the state of nyc, it might be that people are fed up with the democrats. He rides through the streets and they're empty most of the time.

I actually just discovered his channel yesterday, and sat through the whole video of him riding through Manhattan. It's been years since I've been to NYC (thank fucking god), but it was pretty eye opening to see it so dead and isolated.
 
Look at Louis Rossman's videos about the state of nyc, it might be that people are fed up with the democrats. He rides through the streets and they're empty most of the time.
The sad state of things there is that NY politics are racial politics. The political machine is owned by the Jewish mafia and even ethnic neighborhoods usually have their candidates appointed by kingmakers from the regional DNC in partnership with the ADL. Breaking out of that would be hard. There's no money for candidates who disagree with the demands of Wall Street financiers.
 

21/08/2020

Scott Adams, the creator of 'Dilbert' and a student of persuasion, explains why he thinks that Joe Biden citing the 2017 "fine people" in Charlottesville "race hoax" during his DNC acceptance speech disqualifies him from being the president, on his Friday morning "Coffee With Scott Adams" podcast.

Adams said "the fact that he based his campaign on being the guy of good character and the one who cares, while at the same time and in the same speech perpetuated the most divisive race hoax in American history -- the fine people hoax," is disqualifying for Biden.

"He's basing his campaign on a debunked hoax," he said. "What do people who believe the hoax say? 'Oh, you right-wing crazy people are trying to tell us we didn't hear it with our own ears. I saw it and I heard it and I can prove it. Here's the video of what I saw and what I heard.' And then, they'll show the edited video -- which is the hoax."


"If they show the whole video, it shows Trump without prompting, and this is the important part, said he is not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists, 'they should be condemned totally.' If you leave that part out, it could be misunderstood that he was praising the people with the torches. So in order not to be misconstrued later, without prompting, Trump clarified to make sure you wouldn't interpret it wrong, and they lopped that part off and turned it into the central part of Biden's campaign."

"They turned the truth into a lie by getting rid of the clarification."

"And there's a second lie," he continued. "That it matters who was there. It doesn't matter if there were any 'fine people' there... It doesn't matter because Trump gave his assumption that he thought there were fine people, who fit the category of non-racist, and then he spoke to his assumption. Worst case scenario, he was mistaken about who attended."

"The only way this hoax can exist is if you never talk to anybody who attended," Adams said. "The people who are trying to say that the 'fine people' hoax really happened will only describe it from the perspective of the media reports of the time... But I talked to them, on the telephone, and they tell me the story about showing up. In one case they didn't know who organized it at all, but they knew there was something going on about the statues. Were they marching with the racists? No, they never got close because the police stopped people from going in. And when it was over, they went home."

"Do you know who else was incorrect about who attended? Everybody. Every person who thinks this hoax is real."

"The f***ing 'fine people' hoax is the tentpole hoax that makes stupid people who believe the fake news believe that it is all true. It is the only one they think they saw with their own eyes because it got edited. And because they're sure that one's true, it makes all the other hoaxes seem true, and it makes everyone who supports Trump look like assholes," he said a few minutes later. "Joe Biden, if you're making your fellow citizens targets for violence and discrimination, and you're doing it intentionally, you are not worthy of being a citizen of this country, much less a leader. You have not qualified at the basic level of understanding the Constitution."

"And it is worse than that," he continued. "Joe Biden has introduced a new form of slavery. This 'fine people' hoax has the intention of first, winning the election, but also to bind black voters to the Democrat Party. iI he does that, he has once again taken away all black political power... Why do white people have political power? How come black people can't have any political power? because you don't have any power if you just vote Democrat because asshole Joe Biden told you the biggest lie in American history and you bought it."

"You believed it because you watch CNN and you think it is news. It stopped being news years ago, it is pure propaganda. And you know who else is? FOX News, you are just as guilty as CNN, no better. I will make exceptions for some of the hosts on FOX News... Greg Gutfeld has called out this hoax, but it is pretty clear that whoever is running FOX News is not interested in killing this hoax."

"So, whoever is running FOX News, fix this. You have the responsibility because you are the main voice for people who support Trump, or you used to be. What happened? I watched people on FOX News last night talking about what a great speech this was, without talking about how the center of it is the biggest race hoax and a lie. How do you leave that out? How is that not the most important thing to say? He is tearing the country apart intentionally with a hoax, how is that okay?"

"Joe Biden, don't try to sell us on character when that is the worst thing anyone has ever done as a politician in this country. You can't find anything Trump has done, anything Richard Nixon did, that is close to this."

August 15, 2017:



You know what? It’s fine, you’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxrpV8DnJeE (language warning)

His outrage seems a bit hysterical but I get it. From a rhetorical point of view, electing Biden means validating his take on Charlottesville. It also validates the left-wing 'words are violence' pathology. For weeks, Scott Adams opposed the riots, primarily because they're unproductive, directionless, but also fosters a really toxic culture. In the current political climate, if somebody calls you racist, then it gives everybody else the right to attack you, destroy your social life, career, physically harm you, whichever front they can. Scott's seeing Biden's take on Charlottesville and realises if its validated, his life is basically over.
Because he's been subtly pushing back on the 'fine people' narrative since the day the media crafted it, it means Biden winning will make him a pariah. Can't wait to see how it culminates.
 
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In 2016 Trump actually did cause a stronger Republican turnout in New York than Romney did in 2012, though he is a New Yorker himself so there will be some more willing to vote for a guy from their state. Flipping New York red would take an act of God, like 90% of people living in NYC would have to drop dead for it to happen.

In NYC Hillary won almost 80% of the vote, Trump got around 18%. One surprising win for him was Suffolk County which had gone to Obama previously and the last time a Republican won Suffolk County was Dubya's dad in 1992.

Suffolk County is not really a Dem stronghold. Even if they voted for Obama. Historically it goes Red more than Blue at the local level. And will swing to either party for the Presidential Candidate. It’s also the place that has been on the frontline in the ?Immigration debate. A large cluster of Illegal El Salvadoran MS13 gang bangers moved in and took over a chunk of the South Shore of a Suffolk, A traditionally Puerto Rican community. recruiting and variously raping and murdering children. Obama/Biden did nothing and let it happen. Trump has been effectively rolling up the MS13 Terrorists. Nassau and Suffolk are probably the two highest population non NYC Counties in the State. If Trump flips the state red, it starts there.
 
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A rant like this probably ends in the tried an true 'get woke, go broke' outcome
 
So, whoever is running FOX News, fix this. You have the responsibility because you are the main voice for people who support Trump, or you used to be. What happened?
Well, what does Murdoch stand to gain from this? It's a common, but mistaken, belief that Murdoch is 'for' the right.

Murdoch is for Murdoch, for better or for worse.

Australian commentators complain about 'muh climate denial' in his newspapers, but I just can't see how he benefits from it. Interestingly, when Fairfax Media's majority shareholder was mining magnate Gina Rinehart, it still retained its (apparent) editorial independence - putting out articles that wouldn't have been too positive for the mining industry.
 
NYC would only turn red if the Democrat platform suddenly became anti-Israel.
Have you paid attention to the Democrats in the past 20 years? These people simp for the Terrorist Organizations that throw Missiles at Israel and unfroze Billions for the country that funds those Terrorist Organizations.
 
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