U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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This is the man they burned down the town for. They ruined lives for this man.

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ukrainian ultra nationalists? the guys who identify with and glorify ww2 collaborators who fought with the wehrmacht against the red army? yeah i don't see them work with antifa, not in a million years.

100% there would be co-operation between the leadership of both groups. Same hydra, different heads.
 
100% there would be co-operation between the leadership of both groups. Same hydra, different heads.

..how are groups like Azov Battalion and Right Sektor related to Antifa? Do you know what Azov Battalion, Right Sektor, and the like are? During the bout in Ukraine between Russian separatists and the Ukrainian military, Russian separatists actually employed a large variety of volunteer groups, some of them being openly Communist.

Meanwhile on the Ukrainian side, a lot of these men are just...Ukrainian nationalists who fucking hate Russian people, lol, this is more an example of fucktarded namedropping than anything else.
 
Yes, the USAAF purged Hiroshima. They also purged the entire Japanese government in the peace they forced and retained Hirohito as a figurehead. That, I think, was less that 2000 years ago too. But hey. I'm no history scholar like yourself.

Governments and elites and all sorts of hierarchies are replaced all the time. That was what that whole "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it’s natural manure." Jefferson wrote about.

Fuck, it's an election year. We are going to "purge" some elites in November at the ballot box. That was the nifty system our man Jeff helped come up with so that we didn't have to do the whole Cromwell thing.

I think this conversation essentially boils down to "The elites get arrogant because successful systems create hierarchies that disconnect them from reality."

Elites eventually over extend themselves which results in them being torn down when the system that supports them collapses from neglect. Whether this is small (a political faction being purged from a locale) or massive (a war that destroys a civilization) depends on how badly the elites fucked up.

Seems like an area full of diversity.

Did South Africa ever develop that virus that only kills Black people?

African's evolved sickle cell anemia to stop malaria rather than drain the swamps where mosquitos breed to slow the spread of malaria. I doubt that mankind will have more success when a groups evolutionary track is "I'll cripple myself because 'Fuck You'".
 
The violent rapist they did this for is still alive.
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Making a 100k a year and being a multimillionaire are two different things, I addressed what you said. Lots of things are possible in this day and age, that does not discount their rarity.
You can become a multimillionaire by making 100k a year and living below your means. If you save up for long enough and invest wisely, the money adds up. It's not quick or easy, but it is a way to join the upper class.
 
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Did Dresden get "purged"? What about Edo?
If we're talking about Nippon then lets not forget how Nobunaga ended up getting purged by his subordinates at Honnoji temple, or how Hideyoshi Toyotomi ended up getting purged by Tokugawa prior to Japan isolating itself from the western world until the eventual arrival of Commodore Perry in the 1800s.
 
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The violent rapist they did this for is still alive.
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Incredibly unfortunate he survived - now they'll have a living fucking child rapist they can exalt; if the concept of a bunch of umbrella left-wingers, moderate and radical, defending and exalting a violent paedophile on the grounds of racism isn't peak clown world, I'm not sure what the fuck is anymore.

This is the rainbow pill.
 
Incredibly unfortunate he survived - now they'll have a living fucking child rapist they can exalt; if the concept of a bunch of umbrella left-wingers, moderate and radical, defending and exalting a violent paedophile on the grounds of racism isn't peak clown world, I'm not sure what the fuck is anymore.

This is the rainbow pill.
I'm curious to see what they'll do if he says something that makes them look bad. 🤔
 
Yes, the USAAF purged Hiroshima. They also purged the entire Japanese government in the peace they forced and retained Hirohito as a figurehead. That, I think, was less that 2000 years ago too. But hey. I'm no history scholar like yourself.

Governments and elites and all sorts of hierarchies are replaced all the time. That was what that whole "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it’s natural manure." Jefferson wrote about.

Fuck, it's an election year. We are going to "purge" some elites in November at the ballot box. That was the nifty system our man Jeff helped come up with so that we didn't have to do the whole Cromwell thing.

You purge elites during election year? I wasn't aware - seemed to me you just exalted newly-paid elites who continue previously-stated agendas while fulfilling virtually no campaign promises and doing largely nothing; exceptional leaders in democratic history are a rarity, not the standard, and that's the result when you practice this universalist bullshit with no attention paid to the actual merits of someone - you toss the power of deciding leadership to the mob, and the mob is comprised of people that are both complicit to this rioting, support it, and completely indifferent to it as well, and you're surprised when you're left with hamster-wheel cycles that have no end past political virtuosos? Meritocracy is a thing, but not with mob-voting, lol.

Donald Trump is an exception to an extent, and the irony is the fact he actually comes from a business background, but even he is susceptible to the same whims of inactivity and indecision that any POTUS is subject to due to the convoluted red-tape system of American politics.


I'm curious to see what they'll do if he says something that makes them look bad. 🤔

If he does, they'll just relegate him to a place of obscurity while still including his name in lists of victims - it won't do much to deter their narrative at this point, more-so bulk it, you may even have some people within that crowd of people that sit there trying to defend his paedophilia on the grounds that white America has him judged wrongly.
 
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..how are groups like Azov Battalion and Right Sektor related to Antifa? Do you know what Azov Battalion, Right Sektor, and the like are? During the bout in Ukraine between Russian separatists and the Ukrainian military, Russian separatists actually employed a large variety of volunteer groups, some of them being openly Communist.

Meanwhile on the Ukrainian side, a lot of these men are just...Ukrainian nationalists who fucking hate Russian people, lol, this is more an example of fucktarded namedropping than anything else.

I'll re-evaluate if wrong. My impression of Azov Battallion is that they are Nazis and Urkainian nationalists who were financially supported by the Obama administration as useful anti-Russian forces on the ground. I know that the US govt. was forced to stop providing them money temporarily when it was shown the Azov battalion were using literal Nazi emblems but I think they found a way to restart funding.

In any case, if Obama and his mess of conspirators and financers were backing Azov, I think that is a connection / reason for co-ordination because I think the same backers are supporting Antifa. Share a paymaster and I don't see why co-ordination is off the table.
 
I'll re-evaluate if wrong. My impression of Azov Battallion is that they are Nazis and Urkainian nationalists who were financially supported by the Obama administration as useful anti-Russian forces on the ground. I know that the US govt. was forced to stop providing them money temporarily when it was shown the Azov battalion were using literal Nazi emblems but I think they found a way to restart funding.

In any case, if Obama and his mess of conspirators and financers were backing Azov, I think that is a connection / reason for co-ordination because I think the same backers are supporting Antifa. Share a paymaster and I don't see why co-ordination is off the table.

No, that funding died; Western attention towards Azov and Right Sektor didn't just comprise the Obama administration, it also comprised funding from other Western sources as well (France at one point had a vested interest in the affair, as well) - the reason their funding has 'restarted' is because Azov Battalion has literally been formally absorbed into the Ukrainian National Guard, my guy, it's a formal brigade with formal, officialized insignia and rank and title; as for groups like Right Sektor, they were largely absorbed into the political party Svoboda, which is one of the largest parties in Ukraine.

All of this was an example of liberalized Western leaders playing realpolitik wrongly by misplacing funding in groups they didn't understand ideologically - once they did, they relegated them to media obscurity..but Ukrainian nationalism is huge and nazis are huge in Ukraine, therefore the task of actually 'officializing' Azov to the point where they had legitimate institutional military and governmental pull wasn't all that difficult.

Realpolitik is realpolitik - it's a system of political maneuvering but it isn't flawless and leaders make fucking mistakes all the time.
 
No, that funding died; Western attention towards Azov and Right Sektor didn't just comprise the Obama administration, it also comprised funding from other Western sources as well (France at one point had a vested interest in the affair, as well) - the reason their funding has 'restarted' is because Azov Battalion has literally been formally absorbed into the Ukrainian National Guard, my guy, it's a formal brigade with formal, officialized insignia and rank and title; as for groups like Right Sektor, they were largely absorbed into the political party Svoboda, which is one of the largest parties in Ukraine.

All of this was an example of liberalized Western leaders playing realpolitik wrongly by misplacing funding in groups they didn't understand ideologically - once they did, they relegated them to media obscurity..but Ukrainian nationalism is huge and nazis are huge in Ukraine, therefore the task of actually 'officializing' Azov to the point where they had legitimate institutional military and governmental pull wasn't all that difficult.

Realpolitik is realpolitik - it's a system of political maneuvering but it isn't flawless and leaders make fucking mistakes all the time.

Much of that I was aware of, some I wasn't. But none of it I disagree with.

What I don't see is why it makes it so unlikely that there could be coordination between backers of the Ukraine revolution and backers of the attempted coup going on in the USA right now as I think there is large overlap between such backers. I don't think the backers in either case were doing so because they are true and loyal sons of the revolution. They just want power. Ideology is a tool to them, not a rule to them.
 
Much of that I was aware of, some I wasn't. But none of it I disagree with.

What I don't see is why it makes it so unlikely that there could be coordination between backers of the Ukraine revolution and backers of the attempted coup going on in the USA right now as I think there is large overlap between such backers. I don't think the backers in either case were doing so because they are true and loyal sons of the revolution. They just want power. Ideology is a tool to them, not a rule to them.

Certain BACKERS of the revolution, maybe - leadership of Ukrainian nationalist groups, no, that's asinine; the reality is the backers of the revolution in Ukraine didn't come from a catch-all tent and were comprised of a litany of sources and donors; for fucks' sake there were political non-profit groups as far as Brazil that were affiliated with anarchism that laid support to certain "Novorossiya" volunteer brigades; there were legitimately-ideological backers of the revolution and there's a huge far-right scene in Ukraine to the point where it has a wide range of institutional power and control, and there were Soros-esque backers with an interest in destabilizing the region, but not all of those would do the same to the U.S. - destabilization games in politics are as common as the fucking number 3, and even local estates will play roles in power-playing through political donation and funding; some of the groups working for destabilization in Ukraine were groups from Eastern European nations that have a vested interest in seeing Russian political power either collapse or apex in Slavic Europe, and some were the types that genuinely do try to influence global destabilization.

Ukraine was a realpolitik fuckfest that nearly every side invested themselves in for at least a span of three months; realpolitiks do that, Ukraine was realpolitik - what is happening in the U.S. may have some elements of realpolitik but it's largely a train that's gone off the fucking track and certain people are taking advantage of the impending chaos that crash causes; leaders there associating with riots here, not-so-much, it's simply that riots are symptomatic of the world we live in et. all, not just here.
 
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