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Maybe so, but at the time it bled into the mainstream. You had Anna Nicole Smith acting in a mainstream comedy. You had Baywatch go from this
To this.
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Maybe so, but at the time it bled into the mainstream. You had Anna Nicole Smith acting in a mainstream comedy. You had Baywatch go from this
To this.
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Dude, that Baywatch redhead made me feel things i wasn't even supposed to be developed enough to feel.
Grandpa Simpson
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Dude, that Baywatch redhead made me feel things i wasn't even supposed to be developed enough to feel.
You had Lara Croft go from this
To this
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NGL, Rocco is a favorite of mine. These days he has the right mix of sadistic and passionate, verging on outright romantic, and it's a great mix when combined with some of the young idol worshippers who want to get their rectum turned inside out by him.
If only he wasn't so into feet smh.
If only he wasn't so into feet smh.
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@Syaoran Li There was a lot of legal issues around GWG during the latter half of the 2000s. They bascially went bankrupt. And the guy who ran the madhouse was a scummy guy and went bankrupt as well.
I think the internet killed off a lot of Softcore stuff. A lot of that stuff mainly existed for guys who were gunshy about renting or watching Porn to get their rocks off. Blockbuster famously never stocked porn. Only mom and pop shops did. And its easier to take "Witchcraft V" or "Basic Instinct" to the counter than "All Tit Fucking VIII" or "Buttman XII". Mail order was a thing but itd be very awkard for your neighbors to catch you with a Porno catalog. And you'd probably didn't want to explain to the wife or parents why there was a $15 call to a porno ordering line. When streaming blew up in the late 00s, it allowed anyone to watch porn without anyone knowing. You could lock your pc or just delete your search history. Hell, incognito mode probably exists for people to jerk off.
I don't know why the fuck Skinamax kept going until a few years ago. If you wanted "porn" with plot, watch Game of Thrones or some shit. These softcore flicks still get made on the indie level. Its probably for men whos wives are anti-porn but are ok with something like a Tinto Brass film. idk. Most likely its because Amazon doesn't want to stock stright up porno on Prime Video and are fine with the Andy Sidaris' of the world.
I lament the fact that the industry went from 80-90 min films with plot to 3 hour "films", of which there is usually several 30-40 minutes sequences, with no plot. After reading Jim Holliday's Only The Best, I kind of lament it. Even though the industry was way more scummy than it is now.
I think the internet killed off a lot of Softcore stuff. A lot of that stuff mainly existed for guys who were gunshy about renting or watching Porn to get their rocks off. Blockbuster famously never stocked porn. Only mom and pop shops did. And its easier to take "Witchcraft V" or "Basic Instinct" to the counter than "All Tit Fucking VIII" or "Buttman XII". Mail order was a thing but itd be very awkard for your neighbors to catch you with a Porno catalog. And you'd probably didn't want to explain to the wife or parents why there was a $15 call to a porno ordering line. When streaming blew up in the late 00s, it allowed anyone to watch porn without anyone knowing. You could lock your pc or just delete your search history. Hell, incognito mode probably exists for people to jerk off.
I don't know why the fuck Skinamax kept going until a few years ago. If you wanted "porn" with plot, watch Game of Thrones or some shit. These softcore flicks still get made on the indie level. Its probably for men whos wives are anti-porn but are ok with something like a Tinto Brass film. idk. Most likely its because Amazon doesn't want to stock stright up porno on Prime Video and are fine with the Andy Sidaris' of the world.
I lament the fact that the industry went from 80-90 min films with plot to 3 hour "films", of which there is usually several 30-40 minutes sequences, with no plot. After reading Jim Holliday's Only The Best, I kind of lament it. Even though the industry was way more scummy than it is now.
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I know all the horror stories surrounding Joe Francis and the downfall of Girls Gone Wild, trust me. As for the internet killing softcore, I'm not entirely sure how much of that is true and how much of it was less "the internet" and more "Mind Geek buying up all the major porn sites and pushing specific things"
Part of why Skinemax kept on going was because the movies were cheap to produce and they had both a built-in audience and no real competition in their specific time slot for premium cable. Skinemax basically died because of change in management at HBO/Cinemax.
Cinemax got a new manager who wanted to move away into more legit original programming and they axed the softcore TV shows in 2013 but the movies were still popular and beloved and were also dirt cheap so they never lost money on them. The overhead was so low that the Late Night programming was handled by one guy for the last decade or so, and when he retired in 2017 they stopped making new movies and only aired rerun titles on HBO Max on Fridays until the AT&T merger in 2018, when they were told from up on high to shut it down.
From what I can tell, the softcore market in the late 2000's and 2010's still had a firm audience and it was mostly comprised of couples who wanted something erotic to watch together but may not have been comfortable with full-blown hardcore porn. I have no doubt that audience has not gone away and will probably never fully go away either.
I've noticed there's also a lot of overlap with the B-Movie and Z-Movie audiences who watch stuff from The Asylum or Roger Corman flicks and the people who still watch Skinemax-style movies in 2020.
Pre-Mind Geek, the porn industry also knew the importance of having softcore as the gateway drug and also for married couples and women who liked porn as a concept but didn't want to watch something as blunt and sleazy as hardcore porn.
Even the really goofball parodies and B-movie pastiches like "Cleavagefield", the Andy Sidaris and Fred Olen Ray titles, or the Misty Mundae parodies of the early 2000's had a more playful "naughty" vibe as opposed to a sleazy "filthy" vibe that your "Dick and Morty" or "Red Head Redemption" style parodies have.
The more serious "Soap Opera With Tits" erotic dramas and thrillers had this weird "faux classy" Harlequin Romance campy vibe that still kinda worked.
With the right budget, equipment, and a few performers, one could easily make more softcore flicks and make profit from Amazon sales and aiming for the "Popular With Couples" and the "Popular With Women" categories online.
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From the early 2000's to the Mindgeek takeover, you had all of these weird shitty "gimmick porn" sites. Like Big Sausage Pizza, Insane Cock Brothas, Farthammer, Donger Bros, etc. Remember those? Bangbus was probably the most successful of that crop.
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That was pretty much the original too right, i remember O&A and Stern talking about it in the late 90s. Like if Stern was talking about it back then that was guaranteed mainstream essentially.
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I think Big Sausage Pizza was supposed to be a throwback to the 80's VHS pornos where the guy was always either a pizza man or a pool boy, although sometimes you'd see mailmen.
Everything else was part of the big "Reality Porn" trend that exploded in the wake of the reality TV boom and the success of stuff like Girls Gone Wild and the "Too Hot For TV" DVD releases at the start of the 2000's.
It was all focused around gimmicks and "reality TV" style cinematography and sometimes you had a weird goofball gimmick like the Bang Bus or that one with the donut shop while others got a more "mundane" gimmick like Mike In Brazil where it was all about picking up Brazilian babes and boinking them in some luxury beach house.
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I think it's because some of the Skinemax-style movies share that outsider art weirdness or outright schlockiness that is enjoyable in B- and Z-movies. Tinto Brass(had completely forgotten about him) does not have any of that, he was a competent director that made boring italian bullshit with nudity in them.
If John Malkovich was in a fatsuit and a beret and sat with templed fingers and pursed lips while pretending to direct a softcore comedy(?) the result would be a Tinto Brass movie.
There used to be an endless parade of gruesome Spanish/Italian vampire movies that were 40% softcore.
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I think that Ed Powers is one of the main reasons for that happening. Dirty Debutantes and the other "Gonzo Porn" efforts of the 1990's just went "Plot? We all know you'll just fast-forward through that shit anyway, so here's just a dude banging a chick on a couch."
'Funny' thing about that. I actually found a porn site that plays with black supremacy. Those who know me here on this site would be aware that I sometimes gimmick-post as a Black Israelite supremacist and use words like Edomite. We'll someone's had the bright idea to create a porn site in that vein:
Black Payback Reluctant Rough Interracial
Black Payback is an interracial porn site where white women atone for their sins by getting face fucked and bred by big black dicks.
It honestly looks like something a troll would create. You've got Black supremacist rhetoric. It looks like they realised the standard Interracial schtick of thuggish black actors needed to be politicsed to add a kink to it.
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'Funny' thing about that. I actually found a porn site that plays with black supremacy. Those who know me here on this site would be aware that I sometimes gimmick-post as a Black Israelite supremacist and use words like Edomite. We'll someone's had the bright idea to create a porn site in that vein:
Black Payback Reluctant Rough Interracial
Black Payback is an interracial porn site where white women atone for their sins by getting face fucked and bred by big black dicks.blackpayback.com
It honestly looks like something a troll would create. You've got Black supremacist rhetoric. It looks like they realised the standard Interracial schtick of thuggish black actors needed to be politicsed to add a kink to it.
When I read black supremacy porn I thought you were going to post Nigger's Revenge, a gay fetish porno that was somewhat of a meme among purveyors of the weird in the late 90's, just like Gay Niggers from Outer Space.
If I remember it right Revenge is the sequel to one where neo-nazi skinheads captures and sexually abuses a group of black men. Not because anyone is gay, just to degrade them.
Tape trading was a weird thing.
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You mentioned this way earlier in the thread, and I'm a little glad you gave an explanation of what it is because I thought it would be way fucking worse than that.
Like this is fucking bizarre, but it's not like shit eating or anything like that.
Grandpa Simpson
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"Facts beat fiction" eh? Wonder if they will do this with more issues, like filming scenes with underage girls, then paying them off so no one notices that their age verification is not quite as good as they say, or anti-porn groups claims on how many girls fall into drug and alcohol abuse (and regular abuse) in the industry or all the overdoses and suicides? They would probably have to rename it "propaganda beat facts" then.
Mia shoudn't try and pull a fast one when there is evidence contradicting her, but then no one has ever said pornwhores were particularly intelligent.
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i remember being a fan of something called "nasty cops" sadly, it no longer exist and the tapes are mostly gone from the internet.