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Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon
Really Jerry? That's the ONLY way to tell if a character is a self-insert?
Your characters get called self-inserts because they're not even characters, they're just mouthpieces for your opinions and vehicles for you to live out your lame self-indulgent fanfic fantasies.
Making a character black doesn't prevent her from being your personal fantasy of being an uwu quirky hot girl and a totally awesome hero who punches all the bad guys who has a cool lore-breaking ship and always wins and gets to make out with your waifu Rey.
Your characters get called self-inserts because they're not even characters, they're just mouthpieces for your opinions and vehicles for you to live out your lame self-indulgent fanfic fantasies.
Making a character black doesn't prevent her from being your personal fantasy of being an uwu quirky hot girl and a totally awesome hero who punches all the bad guys who has a cool lore-breaking ship and always wins and gets to make out with your waifu Rey.
You can only research what Sefl-Insertion is and any definition you find explains why Lily receives this accusation from everyone who reads her fanfics.
"It is not a character in which the audience inserts themselves or can report to. It has absolutely no relation to the audience or readers. It is specifically referencing the creator's personal avatar."
"retains considerable knowledge of the series in which he's been inserted, or both, and uses them to adjust things to his or her liking"
"Some creators will hide the fact that they use these characters by changing their names and a few details"
Lily does not make fanfics to tell a good story, she just wants a world of fantasya where she is always right everyone loves her and those who don’t, are the “bad guys” (racist, homophobic, transphobic, stupid and incompetent, as she sees who disagrees with her)
and the funny thing is that she still expects her fans to love it without question, the stories are her masturbations but she wants others to see and applaud her genius
"But if you expect other people to enjoy your story too, you're going to need to insert all the things that make you a real person, like your flaws."
"The trouble is that many new writers don't think about that. They think only about ways in which their Author Avatar can be perfect, can hook up with their favorite character, force their beliefs on others, or ninja-kick their way to being the hero, rather than working on a realistic way they can enter the plot. "
Lily is lazy and sefl-insert is the easiest thing to do since it is just inserting a character with all the answers in a world created by others
and is still dishonest in how she receives criticism, because he really believes in her own fantasy
Lily does not make fanfics to tell a good story, she just wants a world of fantasya where she is always right everyone loves her and those who don’t, are the “bad guys” (racist, homophobic, transphobic, stupid and incompetent, as she sees who disagrees with her)
You also forgot that the bad guys have to be male, because Lily somehow think everyone with a penis is evil
It doesn't take a critic to realise that Lily has a MASSIVE hatred for males, and this carries on in her stories and characters: the female characters are often the good guys, and always put in a situation where their way is the right way, no matter how controversial it is. The women are also more often than not stronger both physically and mentally than the males and when brute force won't subdue them, making them look like utter idiots will. The men up all looking like weak bumbling idiots that just shout and that's it.
It's clearly visible in TSR where Kylo Ren might just as well be some toddler trying to be Darth Vader, and even in her stupid WoW fanfic. In every single snippet where males do appear, they are just there to make the ladies look strong. On one hand you have characters like Sylvanas, Talanji, Jaina, her stupid OCs are always making the right decisions because their vagina is some godsent miracle; meanwhile the male characters like Saurfang, Baine, Garrosh, Lor'themar etc are either overly aggressive douchebags who only know to use bitch as an insult and their threats are edgier than 12 yo Call of Duty players (Garrosh comes to mind), are downright useless and I am pretty sure only exist so Anevay can shit on their beliefs (Saurfang, Baine) or are straight up written to be neglectful dickheads cause they didn't coddle this stupid blood elf enough (Lor'themar)
I get having different headcanons and interpretation for characters, nothing wrong with that
It is wrong when you have to break their character over and over to fit your mold, and all this in a fanfiction where a 19 yo blood elf wants to fuck Sylvanas, a corpse who might as well be hundreds years old
You can only research what Sefl-Insertion is and any definition you find explains why Lily receives this accusation from everyone who reads her fanfics.
"It is not a character in which the audience inserts themselves or can report to. It has absolutely no relation to the audience or readers. It is specifically referencing the creator's personal avatar."
"retains considerable knowledge of the series in which he's been inserted, or both, and uses them to adjust things to his or her liking"
"Some creators will hide the fact that they use these characters by changing their names and a few details"
Lily does not make fanfics to tell a good story, she just wants a world of fantasya where she is always right everyone loves her and those who don’t, are the “bad guys” (racist, homophobic, transphobic, stupid and incompetent, as she sees who disagrees with her)
and the funny thing is that she still expects her fans to love it without question, the stories are her masturbations but she wants others to see and applaud her genius
"But if you expect other people to enjoy your story too, you're going to need to insert all the things that make you a real person, like your flaws."
"The trouble is that many new writers don't think about that. They think only about ways in which their Author Avatar can be perfect, can hook up with their favorite character, force their beliefs on others, or ninja-kick their way to being the hero, rather than working on a realistic way they can enter the plot. "
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and is still dishonest in how she receives criticism, because he really believes in her own fantasy
I mean, writing a self-insert isn't intrinsically a bad thing. Every character an author writes (well, any that are good) has a piece of themselves in them, some moreso than others. Using the term 'self-insert' is generally a pejorative, though, and usually conflated with a Mary Sue or Gary Stu (who oftentimes have origins in being a self insert power fantasy).
Although good self-inserts usually aren't recognized as such because the author inserting them has an understanding that they are not only a flawed human being (and therefore the representation of themselves is going to be flawed, oftentimes in an exaggerated way to suit the story conflicts), but that they are not their own self-insert and therefore willing to not only really make them struggle and fail and be wrong, but won't take it personally if somebody doesn't like the character.
Unfortunately most of the examples that come to mind are those where the accusation is leveled because the character is simply not strong enough to get away from it, but many authors, when asked who the inspiration for a main character is, will admit that it's in no small part based off of themselves and people they know. The trick, as with everything in writing, is in the execution. Did you treat 'yourself' as a character, with all the flaws and ugliness that make a person human? Or did you decide that since it's YOUR STORY and you're suddenly the main character that everything falls into their lap, their flaws are whitewashed by the narrative, they get everything they ever wanted and everybody loves them and if the audience doesn't it's just because they're jealous and stupid?
I mean, a lot of this is more pertinent to original works, where a self-insert is perhaps less obvious because they're natively incorporated into a universe built with them in mind as part of its planning process, but it's still not impossible to make a character, based off oneself, and throw them into a fanfic and have them actually work. It's harder to do this (and far more obvious when suddenly the main characters are spending their free time with Rando OC who is definitely not me you guys), but it's still possible.
Simply, while making a self-insert is technically easy, making them a good character is a legitimate challenge, and requires putting aside a lot of ego.
Which is fundamentally why most self-insert characters just don't work.
By the way, Lily didn't actually answer the question, she just turned it into a deflection of criticism that Anon didn't even imply.
Your characters get called self-inserts because they're not even characters, they're just mouthpieces for your opinions and vehicles for you to live out your lame self-indulgent fanfic fantasies.
Also her Pokemon character is named Lily and acts as Lily's avatar and looks like Lily's puppet which is the image she wants people to associate with her and is also rooming with and getting married to Mikaila and has an ex named Lizzy and these events in her life constantly parallel those of the real-life Lily Orchard.
I mean, writing a self-insert isn't intrinsically a bad thing. Every character an author writes (well, any that are good) has a piece of themselves in them, some moreso than others. Using the term 'self-insert' is generally a pejorative, though, and usually conflated with a Mary Sue or Gary Stu (who oftentimes have origins in being a self insert power fantasy).
Although good self-inserts usually aren't recognized as such because the author inserting them has an understanding that they are not only a flawed human being (and therefore the representation of themselves is going to be flawed, oftentimes in an exaggerated way to suit the story conflicts), but that they are not their own self-insert and therefore willing to not only really make them struggle and fail and be wrong, but won't take it personally if somebody doesn't like the character.
Unfortunately most of the examples that come to mind are those where the accusation is leveled because the character is simply not strong enough to get away from it, but many authors, when asked who the inspiration for a main character is, will admit that it's in no small part based off of themselves and people they know. The trick, as with everything in writing, is in the execution. Did you treat 'yourself' as a character, with all the flaws and ugliness that make a person human? Or did you decide that since it's YOUR STORY and you're suddenly the main character that everything falls into their lap, their flaws are whitewashed by the narrative, they get everything they ever wanted and everybody loves them and if the audience doesn't it's just because they're jealous and stupid?
I mean, a lot of this is more pertinent to original works, where a self-insert is perhaps less obvious because they're natively incorporated into a universe built with them in mind as part of its planning process, but it's still not impossible to make a character, based off oneself, and throw them into a fanfic and have them actually work. It's harder to do this (and far more obvious when suddenly the main characters are spending their free time with Rando OC who is definitely not me you guys), but it's still possible.
Simply, while making a self-insert is technically easy, making them a good character is a legitimate challenge, and requires putting aside a lot of ego.
Which is fundamentally why most self-insert characters just don't work.
By the way, Lily didn't actually answer the question, she just turned it into a deflection of criticism that Anon didn't even imply.
Also her Pokemon character is named Lily and acts as Lily's avatar and looks like Lily's puppet which is the image she wants people to associate with her and is also rooming with and getting married to Mikaila and has an ex named Lizzy and these events in her life constantly parallel those of the real-life Lily Orchard.
Yeah like, imagine if Roger Waters was being interviewed about The Wall, and when asked if the film and music was about something personal to him, he just passive aggressively went "Nuh uh dumbass, I could ask you the same question"
But anyway, this is just pathetic at this point.
I get the feeling that half the people on this thread wouldn't be here if Lily wasn't so dismissive and antagonistic.
Like if she just admitted it was self indulgent crap, like every other fanfic author is willing to do, then no one would have to spell out how nakedly angsty and shallow her work is. But since she constantly deflects criticism, there's something cathartic about throwing it back in her face.
With how easily her work is torn to shit it's no wonder she's sequestered away on a dying platform.
Didn't Liliana made a few months back one of those memes in which there is a tringle and she put all her characters on the "literally me" category? I think to remember that she was more than comfortable telling everyone how all their characters are either power fantasies or just projections of herself.
I get the feeling that half the people on this thread wouldn't be here if Lily wasn't so dismissive and antagonistic.
Like if she just admitted it was self indulgent crap, like every other fanfic author is willing to do, then no one would have to spell out how nakedly angsty and shallow her work is. But since she constantly deflects criticism, there's something cathartic about throwing it back in her face.
I surely wouldn't care about any person writing self indulgent crap online if only they are self-aware about it. Her weird insistence that all her ideas are beyond any criticism is a big reason why I keep coming back.
if Lily wrote her self-inserts with all her flaws and attitude, we would have self-entitled, emotionally immature, violent delusional characters with fragile and inflated egos that can't stand disagreement or being wrong ........ and that's exactly what we have.
the problem is that the stories they are in never point out these problems as something that needs correction or punishment no matter how severe the crimes and abuses are
all the blame is placed on other characters or the world asking for it, Lily being the victim in all instances:
CLily didn't do anything wrong, G did all the crimes that only served to give her everything she wants without consequences (she has no agency in her life and everything works for her)
Aliana is a Sith who kills for pleasure and self-interest with fascist ideals because Jedi suck, Galactic Republic suck and she has a sad past because of Luke and she does what she wants and she always teaches everyone how to live (everything goes well for her because she has knowledge outside the story and the others are just stupid and ignorant)
not to mention all the genocides justified with "pragmatism" and "correction", pedophile and incestuous relationships justified with "a lot of love" and "curiosity", abuse and emotional manipulation justified with "realistic", "cute" and "supportive" romance.
accuse all criticism of projection and persecution and you will become the victim in real life to never change or improve
not only do we have her fanfics but also her Tumblr and her videos where we can know how she thinks, how she deals with criticisms, her opinions and beliefs, and with all this information it's easy to see what is projected in her writings
and the same criticisms are repeated again and again and again because she never corrects them
for her characters to improve she has to be self aware of her flaws and bias and admit that they CAN be wrong in different situations, but when you control how the world sees you and can punish anyone who disagrees with you without consequence, I don't think Lily will stop creating this fantasy
TL; DR all of Lily's characters are horrible and / or idiotic people who get everything they want because the world is always on their side and punishments / consequences when present don't matter or are minimized to the maximum
the way she wants her bubble to be
CLily didn't do anything wrong, G did all the crimes that only served to give her everything she wants without consequences (she has no agency in her life and everything works for her)
You know if he wasn't lazy and made the main drama their fight to keep custody of Bonnie from various groups that would want to get their hands on a living Pokemon-human hybrid the comic might actually be interesting. But no its just his self-insert bumming around her house, with everyone admiring her constantly, doing absolutely fucking nothing and he expects other people to find it as engrossing as he does.
Weird long post
Someone asks about Hazbin Hotel drama, and Lily goes on a tangent about people hating ILoveKimPossibleAlot and that whole shit show
Apparently this guy named Michael Boggs who works on Hazbin was involved in the KP drama like 4 years ago. So Lily won't support Hazbin as long as Michael works on it. I dunno. I recall someone on this thread knew a lot of the KP drama, so they'd probably be able to fill in more blanks than I would.
Weird long post
Someone asks about Hazbin Hotel drama, and Lily goes on a tangent about people hating ILoveKimPossibleAlot and that whole shit show
Apparently this guy named Michael Boggs who works on Hazbin was involved in the KP drama like 4 years ago. So Lily won't support Hazbin as long as Michael works on it. I dunno. I recall someone on this thread knew a lot of the KP drama, so they'd probably be able to fill in more blanks than I would.
But that didn’t stop one of them in particular (you know who) from screaming at KP for having the audacity to do a video about mental health with me years later.
Weird long post
Someone asks about Hazbin Hotel drama, and Lily goes on a tangent about people hating ILoveKimPossibleAlot and that whole shit show
Apparently this guy named Michael Boggs who works on Hazbin was involved in the KP drama like 4 years ago. So Lily won't support Hazbin as long as Michael works on it. I dunno. I recall someone on this thread knew a lot of the KP drama, so they'd probably be able to fill in more blanks than I would.
so this KP drama about "slave labor" (working without earning anything in return, no chains, whips, etc.) and about her being a control freak with horrible management of people and work that uses her fame and promises of fame to pressure artists wanting to make their names known to work in exchange for exposure and respect only to end up demanding work on absurd schedules with restrictions that if not followed KP would have their names thrown in the mud and would lose the chance to work with the most "successful and famous" MLP analyst, but it was all manipulation of her and leaving her is the best thing for artists and animators
Kp was an abusive and ungrateful boss, she seems to be better nowadays but it is not possible to deny or erase the experiences of those who had to work at that time and Lily who says that Josh was the worst boss she had should sympathize with the employees, but he prefers to say that it was all the work of being envious and lying people, not that this situation did not affect KP's mind in any way, but it is not possible to select who deserves to be heard and ignored.
I don't know if Michael Boggs still talks about KP but it seems that he just moved on and is working on something else, but Lily doesn't want to support someone who has done something bad in the past like reporting abuse against her friend, but we already know how Lily handles forgiveness.
it was just admitting that it was wrong and bad, apologizing and improving in the future and not letting Lily Orchad take your side to defend you and make everything worse
TL; DR Lily doesn't know how to be unbias and ends up wanting to erase victims of abuse
sweep all the “drama” under the rug is only allowed when Lily does
So here we have a Mister Enter-esque card for rating gay rep in childrens cartoons.
I enjoy how the characters being interesting or fleshed out is extra credit.
I also enjoy how it's only good rep if no one dies, and if they turn to the camera and say "We're gay". Nuanced as ever.
Also for funsies I dug up what font Lily uses for her comic and most of her writing stuff, I feel it is my holy duty to the motherland to share this with you.
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So here we have a Mister Enter-esque card for rating gay rep in childrens cartoons.
I enjoy how the characters being interesting or fleshed out is extra credit.
I also enjoy how it's only good rep if no one dies, and if they turn to the camera and say "We're gay". Nuanced as ever.
Also for funsies I dug up what font Lily uses for her comic and most of her writing stuff, I feel it is my holy duty to the motherland to share this with you.
Ruby and Sapphire literally fulfill the entire checklist and he's already getting salty at people pointing that out. Like he could be petty and say they're not fleshed out/three dimensional which eeehh. But I don't think you can say words like "love" and "in a relationship" and "married" aren't straightforward enough.
Ruby and Sapphire literally fulfill the entire checklist and he's already getting salty at people pointing that out. Like he could be petty and say they're not fleshed out/three dimensional which eeehh. But I don't think you can say words like "love" and "in a relationship" and "married" aren't straightforward enough.
It's a pass/fail checklist that Lily gets to redefine at a whim so long as she doesn't have to admit to SU/She-Ra/Whatever-the-fuck having positive LGBT representation.
I'm going to assume that because Garnet herself shows more asexuality in the show even though she defines herself as a symbol of Ruby and Sapphire's monogamous love for one another towards romance and that because Ruby and Sapphire aren't in every episode separated from one another it can't count.
Really Jerry? That's the ONLY way to tell if a character is a self-insert?
