2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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The thing I can't understand is why? Why would they do this? I mean I'm not gonna argue how much sway the DNC has over BLM, but they had the power to put a lid on the riots within the first week or so. Why commit to it and hope Trump overreacted? They knew the consequences, and genuinely, nothing else could be as damaging for the Democratic brand as college grads and ghetto thugs destroying their own communities. Before Minneapolis, what could have possibly derailed the Biden-Harris ticket on this scale? Both have to answer this crisis in 2 or 3 completely contradictory ways simultaneously in order to keep the Democratic Coalition afloat, and neither of them have the confidence (nor stamina) to do Trump-style running commentary on developments for hours at a time every single day.
Hindsight is 20/20. It's not like the Democracts orchestrated the whole thing. They were just trying to make the most out of a situation. They started immediately endorsing BLM because they want to retain the black voter base. When Antifa showed up and joined BLM, they sided with them because Orange Man said they were terrorists. They probably thought they could keep them on a leash and just use them to attack the police buildings but it's only during this month that they started attacking residential areas. Dems could not have predicted this but this puts them in a pickle because if they come out now against them, they look like massive hypocrites.
 
Hindsight is 20/20. It's not like the Democracts orchestrated the whole thing. They were just trying to make the most out of a situation. They started immediately endorsing BLM because they want to retain the black voter base. When Antifa showed up and joined BLM, they sided with them because Orange Man said they were terrorists. They probably thought they could keep them on a leash and just use them to attack the police buildings but it's only during this month that they started attacking residential areas. Dems could not have predicted this but this puts them in a pickle because if they come out now against them, they look like massive hypocrites.
But... they could have predicted this. They should have. If any staffer was paying attention this was always what BLM/Antifa were working towards. CNN selectively edits all the times 'organisers' yell at a crowd to "burn that shit down" or rallying protestors to go into suburbs and "go burn their shit". The only out they've got is such movements largely fizzle before it gets to this, but its been a goal since Ferguson, and a goal which must be coming about organically for how frequently its peddled.
When they finally do leave the inner cities, what do they expect? These riots are reaching Day 100, and have absolutely 0 reason to exist since most municipalities immediately capitulate to mob demands before even Night 1 of protests begin. What business does Atlanta or Seattle have rioting over some crippled wife-beater in Wisconsin? The only point of these night time adventures is to get useful idiots on the streets, while real criminals get physical and rhetorical cover for their destruction.
Eventually, these professional arsonists are gonna run out of stores and start on civilians-- which if these idiots take Kamala's suggestion of daily riots until Joe's inauguration? It's fucking inevitable
 
Realistically, 10 days is a rush job for the amount of coaching Biden's going to need to be able to campaign in his current state.
That basement strategy was working... until it wasn't. Which was about the day the riots in Kenosha started. They've got to go on offense now.

I hate going out on a limb like this, but they have to replace him. Biden is not capable of going out and hitting the ground and doing the media circuit at a necessary level. Maybe they're trying to put together a story to explain why he drops out?

Like Labor Day rolls around and they say the reason he's been out of pocket is that he tested positive for Coronavirus and was severely ill. And because of it he doesn't think he will be able to fulfill his duties, so Kamala will take over. I actually think Prime Minister Abe resigning gives him a little cover to do this. Maybe to appease the progressives they make Pocahontas her running mate.

I don't know what they're gonna do, but they better do something. And they better do it yesterday.
 
This "Trump voters will become complacent and stay home" is such a meme
Especially with video of Trump supporters being assaulted and murdered in the street by lunatic communists.

That basement strategy was working... until it wasn't. Which was about the day the riots in Kenosha started. They've got to go on offense now.

I hate going out on a limb like this, but they have to replace him. Biden is not capable of going out and hitting the ground and doing the media circuit at a necessary level. Maybe they're trying to put together a story to explain why he drops out?

Like Labor Day rolls around and they say the reason he's been out of pocket is that he tested positive for Coronavirus and was severely ill. And because of it he doesn't think he will be able to fulfill his duties, so Kamala will take over. I actually think Prime Minister Abe resigning gives him a little cover to do this. Maybe to appease the progressives they make Pocahontas her running mate.

I don't know what they're gonna do, but they better do something. And they better do it yesterday.
What ever candidate would run after this would be really hampered after switching him out. It's two bad choices.
 
That basement strategy was working... until it wasn't. Which was about the day the riots in Kenosha started. They've got to go on offense now.

I hate going out on a limb like this, but they have to replace him. Biden is not capable of going out and hitting the ground and doing the media circuit at a necessary level. Maybe they're trying to put together a story to explain why he drops out?

Like Labor Day rolls around and they say the reason he's been out of pocket is that he tested positive for Coronavirus and was severely ill. And because of it he doesn't think he will be able to fulfill his duties, so Kamala will take over. I actually think Prime Minister Abe resigning gives him a little cover to do this. Maybe to appease the progressives they make Pocahontas her running mate.

I don't know what they're gonna do, but they better do something. And they better do it yesterday.
There is no way they drop him from the ticket at this point. The filing deadline for most states has passed, ballot access is now locked, and in the event of Joe's death they'll embrace it being the Kamala ticket, and brainstorming on who she would announce as VP post-victory would distract the media for the rest of the election cycle.
 
That basement strategy was working... until it wasn't. Which was about the day the riots in Kenosha started. They've got to go on offense now.

I hate going out on a limb like this, but they have to replace him. Biden is not capable of going out and hitting the ground and doing the media circuit at a necessary level. Maybe they're trying to put together a story to explain why he drops out?

Like Labor Day rolls around and they say the reason he's been out of pocket is that he tested positive for Coronavirus and was severely ill. And because of it he doesn't think he will be able to fulfill his duties, so Kamala will take over. I actually think Prime Minister Abe resigning gives him a little cover to do this. Maybe to appease the progressives they make Pocahontas her running mate.

I don't know what they're gonna do, but they better do something. And they better do it yesterday.

I would love that. This was the result when the Democrats replaced their VP.
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I could only imagine what would happen if they replaced the Presidental candidate themselves.
 
I would love that. This was the result when the Democrats replaced their VP.
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I could only imagine what would happen if they replaced the Presidental candidate themselves.
Trump's certainly not gonna be the first since Washington to get a country-wide landslide, but if it happens, it will be glorious. Probably no Mondale or McGovern, but at most Reagan's results against Carter or akin to Eisenhower. :optimistic:

The only people who like Kamala are "It's Her Turn" folks, and Joe has to be the most "there" candidate ever. To quote Trump, "He doesn't even know he's alive." He only gathers support from being an Obama admin, and a candidate with (D) next to his name.
 
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I may be talking too soon, something may come up in the next few months, but I cannot for the life of me see the Democrats winning the election from this point in time. Their policies this year of supporting flat out rioting and the destruction of personal and private property have, in my opinion, killed any chance of them having support from moderates in cities.

Fuck moderates they've probably killed almost all of their support on the left wing of anyone who isnt a socialist or anything left of that (besides the celeberties on their payroll). "At least we aren't Trump" can only carry your sham of a party so far before people starting getting pissed off with you and start voting for Trump (or Kanye oh god please) because "at least we aren't the Democrats".
I'm feeling similarly. Trump is going to be the betting favorite in a day or two, and there's 2 months to go. Desperation levels are going to skyrocket and these fucks will do anything to beat Trump.
 
That basement strategy was working... until it wasn't. Which was about the day the riots in Kenosha started. They've got to go on offense now.

I hate going out on a limb like this, but they have to replace him. Biden is not capable of going out and hitting the ground and doing the media circuit at a necessary level. Maybe they're trying to put together a story to explain why he drops out?

Like Labor Day rolls around and they say the reason he's been out of pocket is that he tested positive for Coronavirus and was severely ill. And because of it he doesn't think he will be able to fulfill his duties, so Kamala will take over. I actually think Prime Minister Abe resigning gives him a little cover to do this. Maybe to appease the progressives they make Pocahontas her running mate.

I don't know what they're gonna do, but they better do something. And they better do it yesterday.
They're not going to replace Biden at this point, they will drug him up with happy pills if they have to. Only way they are replacing him is if he literally drops dead before the election.
 
But Biden still isn't leaving his cave until after Labor Day? WTF?
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Trump is right. We can not have a president who takes eons to make a move. He needs to be able to strike at a moments notice. People would have shit on Dubya even more if he took 10 days to even acknowldege 9/11.
 
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Ayyy lmao!

"What are you going to do in November?"
"I'm not gonna show up because Bernie is not on the ticket."
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Got in a huge argument with one of my parents who called me once they heard I was not going to vote and was basically demanding I vote (for Biden); Honestly, they should be grateful that I am trying to compromise with them here and put family unity over politics, if they force my hand into voting somehow I'm immediately voting Trump out of spite.
 
Got in a huge argument with one of my parents who called me once they heard I was not going to vote and was basically demanding I vote (for Biden); Honestly, they should be grateful that I am trying to compromise with them here and put family unity over politics, if they force my hand into voting somehow I'm immediately voting Trump out of spite.
You're not going to vote in what may be the last election held until after balkanization?
 
I was listening to youtube a half hour ago and I got two Dem ads. Both featured Stacy Abrams begging people to donate money for Senate Races. The donation link was to Shareblue.

Its pretty bad when you can only get Stacy Abrams to be the face of begging for donations. You couldn't get some B/C list celeb to help?

You couldn't see her whole body, but It probably was doing this:
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I'm kinda scared that this is some DNC psyop to get a reverse of 2016 where Trump voters stay home because they'll assume he'll win no matter what.

Then again, Biden really is that weak of a candidate and with the BLM riots gone out of control, it's possible they're going back to the pre-COVID plan of running Biden as a jobber and focusing on 2022 and 2024.

Either way, I'm not taking any chances and I'm voting this year no matter what

To be completely frank, the riots were the worst thing to ever happen if you want complacent Republicans. People are being murdered on the street for just being in the way of communists and anarchists, let alone if you're also foolish enough to openly support Trump.

Trying to create an illusion of hopelessness only works if you are looking at one side of things. What the Democrats have done by endorsing (or not immediately condemning) people who want America to burn is going to make Republicans turn out and vote like their lives depended on it - which many of them genuinely believe is the case, and not without good reason. All thanks to these last couple months. To many people, Democratic silence is violence.
 
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While complacency is a valid concern, and I appreciate efforts to keep fellow supporters focused on the prize; I don't think its an issue Trump needs to worry about.

My reasoning: Trump voters, even if they think Trump will win, have more to prove than Biden voters. A Trump landslide, even if unlikely, is the best outcome for his supporters. People voting Biden just need to get Trump out of office; however narrow that margin of victory may be. Biden is running on a platform of "not Trump", and therefore his supporters gain nothing additional from an above-and-beyond victory on behalf of Biden that they wouldn't be getting from a by-the-skin-of-his-teeth victory.

Its the difference between the college students fighting for that 3.5 GPA to keep their scholarship, and the students just aiming for that 2.5 GPA to graduate.

:optimistic: The youth vote going to Trump because all the liberal youth are buttmad about Bernie cucking while the fence-sitters and right-leaning youth are fired up after Kavanaugh and Kenosha
 
I may be talking too soon, something may come up in the next few months, but I cannot for the life of me see the Democrats winning the election from this point in time. Their policies this year of supporting flat out rioting and the destruction of personal and private property have, in my opinion, killed any chance of them having support from moderates in cities.

Fuck moderates they've probably killed almost all of their support on the left wing of anyone who isnt a socialist or anything left of that (besides the celeberties on their payroll). "At least we aren't Trump" can only carry your sham of a party so far before people starting getting pissed off with you and start voting for Trump (or Kanye oh god please) because "at least we aren't the Democrats".

You're assuming that normies are able to connect the dots between Democrats and rioting. Most of the time they don't, then when the riots eventually hurt them they have absolutely no idea how this could have happened.
 
People voting Biden just need to get Trump out of office; however narrow that margin of victory may be. Biden is running on a platform of "not Trump", and therefore his supporters gain nothing additional from an above-and-beyond victory on behalf of Biden that they wouldn't be getting from a by-the-skin-of-his-teeth victory.
You also can't forget about the "Return to Normalcy" promise. I've taken an American Exceptionalism approach lately, and it's fascinating; remembering that quote just made something click: Biden is a modern day Warren G. Harding, which is terrifying given both of their track records. God only knows if his cabinet would be just as corrupt as Harding's. And we all know Biden will be outsed from presidency should it happen, like Harding with his death. If that's the case, Kamala will never in this lifetime be as great as Calvin Coolidge.


Biden should take a page from Harding with this quote:
29th US President: Warren G. Harding said:
I am not fit for this office and should never have been here.
 
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