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tfw you spent the past year blaming the Chinese for fucking up your country when it was just a flu and the fault lies in yourselves for overreacting
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tfw you spent the past year blaming the Chinese for fucking up your country when it was just a flu and the fault lies in yourselves for overreacting
Not like literally anything else can do that... like a massive heat wave... which DOES indeed happen more to old people than young ones because there are idiots that actually LIKE going outside when the temperature outside is lava.Can't wait for HHH to sperg about how we're killing grandma's if we dont wear a mask every second of the day
Man, if I spent the past five months freaking out about something that only kills old people, I would feel really dumb right now.
Is anyone going to @ him?
Inb4 he finds some other spin that allows him to continue sperging about how everyone is dumb but him. Also a&h is full of nazi manlets or something.Man, if I spent the past five months freaking out about something that only kills old people, I would feel really dumb right now.
Is anyone going to @ him?
Wasn't this the case everywhere? Mostly elderly and severely ill people die of COVID-19, like in Italy, where more people get to live to 90? This shit is news on account how media handles it.
It's always been "you don't want Grandma and Grandpa to die, do you?", not "SPANISH FLU AND EBOLA IN ONE NEAT PACKAGE" where I live.
Anyway, I smell (((shenanigans))).
Man, if I spent the past five months freaking out about something that only kills old people, I would feel really dumb right now.
Is anyone going to @ him?
WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKETH US?
WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKETH US?
It's been 45 minutes, he probably got vanned last night in Portland, feds have been snatching rioters.WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKETH US?
Inb4 he finds some other spin that allows him to continue sperging about how everyone is dumb but him. Also a&h is full of nazi manlets or something.
OK. Since this seems to be trending and I've even seen pastors and our own President retweet and misrepresent what this statistic means about the CDC report on underlying medical conditions (comorbidities) and COVID, I felt obligated to explain this to my family and friends who aren't sure what this may mean.
The CDC released a report of deaths from COVID, from which to date we have had over 180,000 of our fellow Americans die, and the thing capturing everyone's attention was the highlighted stat that only 6% of the deaths from COVID could be attributed to COVID alone. If we are truly being scientific that number is probably high and it is probably 0% that COVID ALONE is the source of death. Let's explain that.....
Typically one does not die solely from an infectious disease. Typically you may get one or more of the following from getting infected: sepsis (an infection in the blood), respiratory failure (your lungs give out), you get a pneumonia that also causes your lungs to give out, you have heart failure, your kidney or liver stops functioning correctly and then you die. Those are all possible diagnoses IN ADDITION to the infection (in this case COVID but we can substitute flu, measles, hepatitis, etc).
When someone fills out the death certificate, they list the probable or definite causes of death for that patient based on the data and information around that case. Some places may add more ICD-10 codes (in medicine, this is the system we use when we add a diagnosis to the chart....more on this later). So, let's say someone was admitted to the hospital because of symptoms of COVID. They test positive, so COVID would be listed. Their case progressed where they developed respiratory failure and now are on a ventilator. Respiratory failure can be listed. But since we know COVID also can have a significant affect on the heart, ultimately they may get an arrhythmia (your hearts conducts the electricity wrong so your heart can't function) and that causes them to die. So we can also add cardiac arrest to the death causes. So now 3 things are listed on their death certificate. The COVID infection started the process but that lead to the heart and lungs failing which killed that person.
Quick on the ICD-10 diagnoses. This is a VERY long list of medical diagnoses....codes actually, that we will attribute to patients in their medical charts. In sports medicine for me, a patient may come in who has a right knee problem, commonly one I see is called patellofemoral pain. I would list this as "patellofemoral pain syndrome of right knee" and there is a matching code for that diagnosis, but I may also add "weakness of hips" to that patient as that is something that we can identify on exam that can contribute to their problem. So technically the patient has a diagnosis of patellofemoral pain, but the weakness of the hips can cause that problem. They get two things listed. Same goes when using this system for attributing causes of death on the death certificate. The patient's heart stopped (cardiac arrest is the diagnosis) from damage caused to the heart because of the COVID infection. COVID and cardiac arrest are listed.
But we also know other things can be risk factors for someone having a bad outcome from getting infected with COVID (the things that make you high risk). Preexisting obesity, uncontrolled diabetes, poorly controlled asthma or other chronic lung disease that could lead to respiratory failure because the lungs are already fragile, as a few examples. With those preexisting issues, someone may also add those to the death certificate. An astute doctor would add those diagnoses so if researchers wanted to look at death certificates to help sort out and give us data on COVID, that could help identify what problems a person had that lead to their death and use that information to further the science. It's not ideal, because it depends on who reported it and how detailed they decided to be. But it’s what we have.
So we actually should be MORE surprised that COVID was listed BY ITSELF on 6% of the death certificates because something else happened from the COVID infection that led to that individual's death, not just COVID alone.
So what specific diagnoses were in the most common with the COVID diagnosis.....pneumonia, respiratory failure, cardiac arrest, heart failure, renal (kidney) failure, diabetes, hypertensive disease (high blood pressure), and dementia. Not a surprising list.
We shouldn't be twisting that statistic to think.....well here is evidence of a big hoax because COVID only caused 6% of that 180,000+ reported deaths in our country and the other 94% had nothing to do with COVID. That's a very incorrect interpretation of these statistics, something that is being done too commonly in this day and age. We actually should be asking, why don't we have the full story on that other 6%.........