2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Just a boy said:
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People who bring up the 2018 election as a sign for the Democrats is a meme. In fact, I'd go to say that the Democrats really lost in that election, and when I mean lost, I mean they had one of the most mediocre performances in a midterm election and the hype did not translate into the strong blue wave they were hoping for. It was a purple splash really, and most of the Republicans who lost were pretty much RINOs anyway, and we'll probably gain those seats back with more conservative Republicans.

I sometimes wonder if Trump sacrificed the House so the Democrats can gain a false sense of confidence and hang the noose around their necks. If so, its well played.
 
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The Pink Panther said:
Well that kinda fucking sucks, I thought we were going to be able to get the results by the fucking next day and shit.
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No Democrat has conceded an election on the night of the election since 1988. They always drag it out for as long as is feasible unless it's obvious that they lost. I would say that even Hillary didn't show up to concede the election until the following day, but that bitch sent someone else out to do it and spent the last four years whining about it. I struggle to think of a better example of a poor loser than Hillary Rodham Clinton.
 
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The Pink Panther said:
Wait when the hell will the "winner" be announced then if the mail-in shit's happening?
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The electoral college vote is the drop-dead date, but each state has their own cutoffs for when they stop counting ballots. Those could be extended via official decision or court order if needed, but not beyond the EC date.

I suppose there's a really weird scenario possible where a state never certifies its results and thus misses out on the EC voting, but I don't know what kind of lunatic would let that happen. Most likely they'd just accept the "loss" of a certain number of mail-in ballots after a cutoff day and promise to do better next time.
 
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Just a boy said:
December 14th is when the electors cast their electoral votes, so as far as I know, the winner has to be announced by then.
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If a winner isn't announced, then Nancy Pelosi (or Republican House Speaker if Rs get majority, which won't happen) is sworn in on January 20th, btw.
 
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Barring some electoral fraud or a freak October Surprise, I think Trump is probably going to win a second term but it will be extremely close. The most ideal realistic scenario of a Trump win is that Trump wins with all the states he had in 2016 plus Minnesota and New Hampshire. I think he may end up losing Pennsylvania since it's very close either way, but if he keeps all the other states from 2016 plus Minnesota, he'll still do very well.

I think Minnesota will flip, New Hampshire is likely going to flip, Nevada has a good chance but it's a little less likely than Minnesota (90/10) or New Hampshire (75/25) while Virginia's a 50/50 shot of the GOP getting one last win in 2020 (and 2021 on the state level) and Oregon is unlikely to flip but it's not completely out of the question.

New York will remain a Democrat win barring some kind of miracle levels of turnout for GOP and pissed-off swing voters combined with record low turnouts in NYC. At best, I can see Biden winning New York with a ten point lead instead of the usual twenty-something lead
 
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darkwingosonichugorl said:
If a winner isn't announced, then Nancy Pelosi (or Republican House Speaker if Rs get majority, which won't happen) is sworn in on January 20th, btw.
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I've heard this a lot, I assume this is referring to if a contingent election happens? Since in that scenario (which I think only happens if no one reaches 270), each state is represented by one vote. In the current House of Representatives, 26 states have a Republican majority, 23 have a Democrat majority, and 1 has neither (Pennsylvania). So it seems that Trump would still win in this scenario (which, as an aside, is actually not that implausible- if the 2016 results happen again, except Michigan, Pennsylvania and ME-02 are blue, then you'd get 269-269 assuming no faithless electors, if I remember correctly). But if there's some other scenario where Nancy Pelosi could become president, then I don't know of it.
 
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If a winner isn't announced, then Nancy Pelosi (or Republican House Speaker if Rs get majority, which won't happen) is sworn in on January 20th, btw.
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I'm pretty sure if the votes aren't counted by the electoral vote, then one of Trump cabinet members becomes the temp president. Not Pelosi. And even then, its just until the votes get tallied. Trump's cabinet will still be in charge.
 
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It's HK-47 said:
No Democrat has conceded an election on the night of the election since 1988. They always drag it out for as long as is feasible unless it's obvious that they lost. I would say that even Hillary didn't show up to concede the election until the following day, but that bitch sent someone else out to do it and spent the last four years whining about it. I struggle to think of a better example of a poor loser than Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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You're giving me 2016 flashbacks. You could just tell that the possibility of losing had never even crossed their minds. What with their ultra-expensive stadium where the glass was supposed to break compared to Trump's smaller venue. It looked like a celebration for a royal coronation, not a presidential election, which is exactly what they saw it as. It's still cathartic to see that stadium every now and again.
 
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XYZpdq said:
yeah if I got a random unsolicited call asking about my political views there's no fucking way I'd answer it legit, if at all
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Pollsters must have decided my state is in play because they wont leave me the fuck alone. Never had this happen in other election years but I just tell them to fuck off.
 
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This "red mirage" thing reeks of a screwjob. In fact this whole thing with the mail in voting is so transparent it's almost like setting up a swerve. Everyone sane says how terrible this is and how easily it can be fixed, then the mail in voting is overwhelmingly for Trump, and the democrats claim Trump was the person cheating in the election the next four years.

While not 100% things are leaning in Trumps direction and the left needs a "Russia" like scapegoat. Unfortunately it's more likely they are just this brazen openly cheating in a president election.
 
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[Edit: I made some mistakes and some states have changed. New post here.]

Not all states accept absentee ballots that arive late. The ones that do are as follows, according to this website. (This might not be entirely accurate. The page says some states may have changed policies due to Corona, but I'm not going to look that up for all 51 of them).

1 day:
Texas

48 hours after polls close:
New Jersey

Noon of third day after election day:
Virginia

3 days after election day:
California
Kansas
North Carolina

5 days after election day:
Washington

6 days after election day:
Iowa
Utah

6 days after election day for postmarked ballots, one day for those with no postmark.
West Virginia

7 days after election day:
D.C.
Minnesota
New York

10 days after election day, by 10:00 AM:
Maryland

10 days after election day:
Alaska
Ohio

14 days after election day:
Illinois

Apparently no limit:
Nevada

So if all this is accurate then I presume the worst-case semi-plausible scenario involves one party narrowly winning Ohio and narrowly winning the electoral college - and then the absentee ballots flip Ohio with its 18 electoral votes.
Have I got this right?
 
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tehpope said:
This is, what I think is, the best case scenario for Trump. All the states he could possibly win. The blue states I'm extremely doubtful he could flip at all.

e: this is Trump maxing out. Baring an act of god, he's not going to win every state. Either in the country or even on the map below. And Trump might lose some of these states. But I think all the ones in red are in play as of the making of this post. The ones in blue I think are lost causes.
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This is a pretty generous looking map. I don't think Oregon is that based ... If Trump wins OR, it's going to be because all of the left voting base got arrested from rioting (EDIT: and shooting people, of course), lol.

I think that this election is going to truly determine whether Virginia has become a lost cause or not. It's a fucking shame what has happened to that state in the past decade-- the sludge from DC has poured into VA at this point, and it's effectively drowned out the more rural parts of it.

It's also a shame what is happening to Colorado. While I'm OK with the legalization of marijuana, I truly believe being one of the first states to legalize it recreationally motivated a lot of unsavory demographics to take over a good chunk of the state. Sad panda.

I think that the big, most likely pick-up from Trump in November is going to be Minnesota.
 
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