U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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I don't know man getting shot with .22LR and slowly drowning in your own blood is pretty scary.
they also see anything with a pistol grip as a "scary saltrifle"
The only 22 death I've seen first hand was some guy loaded with tats who put a 22 revolver under his chin and pop. We could see the tip of the bullet sticking through the hair on the top of the skull.
 
At this point, NYC CAN'T afford to go in the middle anymore. Cuomo or Blasio whoever is bringing NYC back to the 70s where it needed Guliani for a number of years to get NYC relatively safe again for tourism. They did that to themselves. They can't even take care of their poorer communities even BEFORE Covid.

There's some argument that cities on the whole (and NYC in particular) have something that's similar to marketplaces as "price memory." That is, given how valuable NYC once-was, even if it's temporarily devalued, the idea is that it will somehow still retain its high mark value (or close to that value) because people believe it will eventually rise back up to that level, or the market is unwilling to accept a lesser value out of stubbornness. Cities have a variety of markets that you can quite obviously see this in, from the obvious - real estate property - to the unobvious - human capital. I would wager that many of these policies are put in place with the smug idea that even if they backfire, the consequences will be minor.

So it is that you see a push for rent control amidst a soaring housing bubble, so it is that you see budget cuts and staff reductions for the police during a crime wave, so it is that you see the city attacking its tax base during an economic shutdown that is only barely being mitigated by exorbitantly expensive social welfare policies. These all seem like incredibly, incredibly risky things to do - unless you feel like you'll bounce right back to where you were, like a cycle. I don't doubt that they feel the same way about crime - it'll spike, but then it'll go right back down.

The problem is, of course, is that after the capital flight in the 70s... capital eventually came back. There was a good reason to move to NYC in the late 80s and 90s, as crime started to get cleaned up - investment opportunities. Cities had moved away from being manufacturing hubs in the 70s and were floundering for a while, but the information revolution made them a great place to set up a services-based workforce. A services-based workforce invites in lots of serving-the-servers: restaurants, entertainment, leisure, so-on, so-forth. Steadily crawling prices and increased policing force out crime-addled shitholes to make way for gentrified yuppie-duppie stops and the city experiences a boom and a growth alongside a reduction in crime.

This time's different, though. Working from home is an absolute game-changer. What's the point of living in a city if you can just telecommute most of the time and only every now and then need to take a ride somewhere? What's the point in buying up huge office space if you don't need more than a floor? What's the point in opening up a restaurant if there's no businessmen, financiers, office workers to patronize it on lunch break? Cities can still be useful for finding talent, sure... but the internet makes a lot of talent incredibly easy to find and coordinate with regardless of if you even live on the same continent; I don't need to peruse NYC art exhibits to commission an NYC artist.

The people who are making the rules and laws and regulations, who are banking on this idea that their cities will just magically be rejuvenated from this second round of capital flight... are all technologically and economically illiterate. They're getting blindsided, hard, because they don't understand the headwinds. They're gambling with these cities, and these cities aren't going to bounce back anywhere near as spryly.
 
This is why I doubt that riots will ease off now that Copmala and Joey Sunsets have said please stop they're helping Trump. Because even if the people pulling the strings tie them up, joggers still gonna jog.

The Golem has long since gone off the range. They can publicly denounce it all they want, and pull back some covert funding and support. But that doesn't get rid of the support they already gave, nor does it actually de-escalate what they wrought.

If he gets acquitted he could still become a cop. He'd only be "unhirable" in democrat controlled areas.

The bigger issue is whether the illegal possession misdemeanor would bar him from police service or not, since that one is likely to stick.

A misdemeanor charge is not immediately disqualifying from police or even military service. It does raise an eyebrow, but the fact he was 17 (Even tried as an adult) is such a massive exculpatory factor that it'd be a non-issue.
 
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TL;DR - Prude was walking around town at 3 AM naked while it was snowing (this was March) and trace amounts of PCP were found in the autopsy.

They put the spit mask on him because he was struggling and being uncooperative (of course).

The medical examiner determined:

A low level of the powerful hallucinogen phencyclidine, or PCP, was found in Prude’s system. The autopsy report listed “acute phencyclidine intoxication” as a complication of his death.

Prude's death was ruled a homicide caused by "complications of asphyxia in the setting of physical restraint" by Monroe County Medical Examiner Dr. Nadia Granger, according to the autopsy report.


Also, this picture from June 6th

This is the perfect incident to demonstrate why they took Cops and LivePD off the air. Can't have us plebs see how policing in the real world works anymore. The new narrative is set and shall not be disturbed by those damn pesky facts.
 
The only 22 death I've seen first hand was some guy loaded with tats who put a 22 revolver under his chin and pop. We could see the tip of the bullet sticking through the hair on the top of the skull.
I believe Reagan and Brady were shot with a .22. Sorta an assassin's gun as it will enter the brainpan and bounce around , making sauce , but doesn't have the power to exit. Didn't Brady turn out a lifelong turnip for that very reason?
 
It's kind of like the once-popular .25 ACP, the favorite of pimps and related street scum for years (until they discovered that 9mm often does the job, and .22 LR is cheaper). Interesting thing about it is that while it has next to no stopping power -- shoot somebody with one and he's likely as not to get really pissed and beat you to death -- it has very high lethality. That's because people shot with one often don't take it seriously. They don't get treatment or anything. Not a good idea. Jeff Cooper told of a guy in a bad mood at a party who, stumbling across a .25 auto upstairs, stuck it to his head and pulled the trigger. Not thinking that he had been much injured, he put a bandaid over the wound and went downstairs and rejoined the party. Next day, though, he woke up dead.
I woke up dead once. Pretty bad way to spend a morning.
 
There's some argument that cities on the whole (and NYC in particular) have something that's similar to marketplaces as "price memory." That is, given how valuable NYC once-was, even if it's temporarily devalued, the idea is that it will somehow still retain its high mark value (or close to that value) because people believe it will eventually rise back up to that level, or the market is unwilling to accept a lesser value out of stubbornness. Cities have a variety of markets that you can quite obviously see this in, from the obvious - real estate property - to the unobvious - human capital. I would wager that many of these policies are put in place with the smug idea that even if they backfire, the consequences will be minor.

So it is that you see a push for rent control amidst a soaring housing bubble, so it is that you see budget cuts and staff reductions for the police during a crime wave, so it is that you see the city attacking its tax base during an economic shutdown that is only barely being mitigated by exorbitantly expensive social welfare policies. These all seem like incredibly, incredibly risky things to do - unless you feel like you'll bounce right back to where you were, like a cycle. I don't doubt that they feel the same way about crime - it'll spike, but then it'll go right back down.

The problem is, of course, is that after the capital flight in the 70s... capital eventually came back. There was a good reason to move to NYC in the late 80s and 90s, as crime started to get cleaned up - investment opportunities. Cities had moved away from being manufacturing hubs in the 70s and were floundering for a while, but the information revolution made them a great place to set up a services-based workforce. A services-based workforce invites in lots of serving-the-servers: restaurants, entertainment, leisure, so-on, so-forth. Steadily crawling prices and increased policing force out crime-addled shitholes to make way for gentrified yuppie-duppie stops and the city experiences a boom and a growth alongside a reduction in crime.

This time's different, though. Working from home is an absolute game-changer. What's the point of living in a city if you can just telecommute most of the time and only every now and then need to take a ride somewhere? What's the point in buying up huge office space if you don't need more than a floor? What's the point in opening up a restaurant if there's no businessmen, financiers, office workers to patronize it on lunch break? Cities can still be useful for finding talent, sure... but the internet makes a lot of talent incredibly easy to find and coordinate with regardless of if you even live on the same continent; I don't need to peruse NYC art exhibits to commission an NYC artist.

The people who are making the rules and laws and regulations, who are banking on this idea that their cities will just magically be rejuvenated from this second round of capital flight... are all technologically and economically illiterate. They're getting blindsided, hard, because they don't understand the headwinds. They're gambling with these cities, and these cities aren't going to bounce back anywhere near as spryly.

I agree with you that sunk-cost fallacy is a thing.

The problem with what you are saying is that I agree with it in theory, but in practice I think these old 60-70 year-olds that run these companies still have that mindset that their employees should be on site. Especially for IT jobs, which a lot of these companies see as a big expense with no return (IT employees don't bring in money since they don't sell things or close deals), and are constantly looking for younger, cheaper replacements.

Hopefully not a powerlevel, but right before I left my last job pre-COVID, the company was starting to go under, and the owners literally put a policy in place banning IT and software developers from working from home. I don't think COVID will change all of their minds.

TL;DR - Old people are stubborn and want employees on site since they don't trust employees to work from home.
 
I agree with you that sunk-cost fallacy is a thing.

The problem with what you are saying is that I agree with it in theory, but in practice I think these old 60-70 year-olds that run these companies still have that mindset that their employees should be on site. Especially for IT jobs, which a lot of these companies see as a big expense with no return (IT employees don't bring in money since they don't sell things or close deals), and are constantly looking for younger, cheaper replacements.

Hopefully not a powerlevel, but right before I left my last job pre-COVID, the company was starting to go under, and the owners literally put a policy in place banning IT and software developers from working from home. I don't think COVID will change all of their minds.

TL;DR - Old people are stubborn and want employees on site since they don't trust employees to work from home.

I take the different opinion, which might come more from a British perspective on business (I don't particularly care for American takes on business or fintech, since I largely believe our perspective is too addled with arrogant, incumbent, inflexible multinationals). Covid sped up what was previously liable to take years and years to get accepted into the mean, both directly by making obvious how workable work-from-home can be and indirectly by killing off those dumb fucking boomers (more of a joke, but possible).

On some level, I don't personally believe that my place of work will ever fully require coming into the office again, but merely require one to be able to do so if needed. Studies will be done into productivity and output changes caused by the shift to WFH for a lot of these service industries, and it's already looking like it has a pretty minor effect. Rising prices of office space in cities, as well as people reacting to rising cost-of-living during a depression (we are getting one the instant that unemployment top-up ends)... will further push towards less office space, less demand to be in-office. Old boomers that refuse to get with the times will waste resources on the space and upkeep and get overtaken by more agile rivals (unless, of course, they're essentially enshrined, government-protected monopolies; but that's a part of why I don't really like the US perspective which is so rooted in Wall Street).
 

"It sure is sad that that new affordable housing project was destroyed, but you're still required by law to have affordable housing, so you'll just have to give us the first few floors of that hotel instead."

(Thankfully, Trump nuked that law.)

I've run into the 'hurr durr landlords' socialists before, and it's not the complete picture, because after hurr durring about landlords, they also included business owners. From what I was able to gather, their general belief is that people who own and rent property and people who own businesses are doing nothing but sitting around jerking off all day while the oppressed people send them rent and/or slave away in their businesses to make them money. Therefore they are evil and need to be brought low by the bright communist future. Because apparently people who own property or start companies did so with magical money that fell from the sky and never did an ounce of work in their lives to actually have earned it.

So keep an eye out, I'm betting that in addition to FUCK LANDLORDS you'll soon see FUCK BUSINESSES creeping in. Which will also not go over well for dems, as the US as a whole has a fair soft spot for small business owners.

Yes, this is all standard Socialist talking points. Owning property is wrong because everyone should share it. And thus, collecting rent is doubly wrong, since you're stealing money by charging access to something everyone (should) own.
 
I agree with you that sunk-cost fallacy is a thing.

The problem with what you are saying is that I agree with it in theory, but in practice I think these old 60-70 year-olds that run these companies still have that mindset that their employees should be on site. Especially for IT jobs, which a lot of these companies see as a big expense with no return (IT employees don't bring in money since they don't sell things or close deals), and are constantly looking for younger, cheaper replacements.

Hopefully not a powerlevel, but right before I left my last job pre-COVID, the company was starting to go under, and the owners literally put a policy in place banning IT and software developers from working from home. I don't think COVID will change all of their minds.

TL;DR - Old people are stubborn and want employees on site since they don't trust employees to work from home.
Ironically, that mindset tends to lose them money as the newer, younger people often don't have the experience to handle something getting fucked.

It's off topic, but I could make a long post about how a lot of the big security breeches we have seen were likely do to that exact mindset.
 
Old boomers that refuse to get with the times will waste resources on the space and upkeep and get overtaken by more agile rivals (unless, of course, they're essentially enshrined, government-protected monopolies; but that's a part of why I don't really like the US perspective which is so rooted in Wall Street).

I don't disagree with what you are saying. I'm just stating that the people old enough to own businesses don't think or care about this.

There's no reason why software developers HAVE to work 9-5, but most still do, because that's what's been the standard for decades. They see people that try to work "more flexible" hours as lazy, regardless of how many hours they actually work.

They have their standard of what works, and they are too stubborn to change.
 
but in practice I think these old 60-70 year-olds that run these companies still have that mindset that their employees should be on site. Especially for IT jobs, which a lot of these companies see as a big expense with no return (IT employees don't bring in money since they don't sell things or close deals), and are constantly looking for younger, cheaper replacements.
The curse of IT when it works "What do we pay you for?!" when it doesn't "What do we pay you for?!" along with the "What do we need IT for! All you do is spend money" yet as soon as a server goes down, "GET IT BACK UP WE CANT MAKE SALES UNTIL ITS BACK UP"

Don't forget the middle management who needs to prove they are worth something by driving everyone under them nuts from micro management. This goes for all departments.
 
Roehm RG 14

Secret Service agents seized a . 22-caliber Roehm RG 14 pistol from Mr. Hinckley when they overpowered him at the scene of the shooting. The explosive bullets recovered by the F.B.I.
You're right. The H&R was entered into evidence, but it wasn't the gun used. He had it on him. No "explosive" bullets, however. Reagan was hit by a ricochet, and even if explosive .22 cartridges existed they wouldn't ricochet.
 

Oh, some 'community members' said he wasn't armed.

Over\under on video coming out showing him with a gun in his hands before being shot?

Maybe, as a bonus, his photos on FB posing with the same gun and throwing gang signs.

Roehm RG 14

Secret Service agents seized a . 22-caliber Roehm RG 14 pistol from Mr. Hinckley when they overpowered him at the scene of the shooting. The explosive bullets recovered by the F.B.I.
He called you a 'fudd' because of that '.22 assassin weapon bouncing bullet' stuff
 
I don't disagree with what you are saying. I'm just stating that the people old enough to own businesses don't think or care about this.

There's no reason why software developers HAVE to work 9-5, but most still do, because that's what's been the standard for decades. They see people that try to work "more flexible" hours as lazy, regardless of how many hours they actually work.

They have their standard of what works, and they are too stubborn to change.

I agree with that. I just think those companies are going to start tripping down the stairs and getting assblasted by more agile ones. They always were, but I suppose I take the belief that this year will accelerate that process - I'm peripheral to a lot of people who work for dumbass boomers that have that stubborn, stupid attitude. And I feel like those folks might get enticed more easily by lesser salaries that offer benefits like WFH to a point that you see a brain-drain from the ones run by stubborn suits in the age range of adult diapers.

But that's all speculative and off-topic here; even beyond this particular instance of creative destruction, these cities are fucko'd
 
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