Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

Great OP. Knowing this kind of thing is critical to understanding the modern CCP.

Something else that's important to mention is China's Lost Generation. This was part of Mao's destruction of intellectual thought that resulted in the Up to the Mountains, Down to the Countryside movement that forcibly relocated about 17 million urban youth to impoverished rural areas as part of a re-education program in the 60s and 70s. Mao and his cronies thought that simply moving people out to the countryside would both replace the millions of peasants that starved to death during the famines caused by the Great Leap Forward as well as alleviate food shortages in urban areas. Mao also thought that having urban children learn from farming peasants would create a stronger national identity and bolster farm production.

These youth had their educations completely disrupted, and this combined with the large scale destruction of schools by Mao, means that an entire generation of Chinese people grew up with extremely limited formal education. It was also hugely destructive to the economy of China. Instead of promoting advanced manufacturing, scientific progress, or creating urban demand for goods, the economic system was turned backwards to agriculture and other low-level types of manual labor. All the kids who wanted to be doctors, scientists, engineers, and other intellectuals ended up being dirt farmers instead. They didn't learn the skills they needed to meaningfully participate or grow the Chinese economy.

What they did learn was how to survive in a very harsh environment with not enough food and other resources for everyone. The country was in complete chaos at this point with the Mao government encouraging young people to rebel and destroy buildings and institutions that represented incorrect thought and beat/kill the teachers, intellectuals, and religious figures that occupied them. They learned how to lie, cheat, steal, and bribe in order to survive. They learned that altruism left you hungry, doing things correctly was punished, and the only way to get ahead was to step on someone else's back in order to do it.

Here's a good video about the subject for people who don't like to read.

Some of the wreckage left in Mao's wake was an entire generation of ignorant, superstitious, and selfish peasants. These people are running the country right now. Xi was one of the youth sent out to the countryside, and now he's the president. They may be wearing expensive suits and driving luxury cars. Don't be fooled. If you ever wonder why China and the CCP is so fucked up and corrupt, this is a big part of it.
 
@MarvinTheParanoidAndroid Pretty good summary, though one factor that I think should also be considered here is Deng Xiaoping's Chairmanship after Mao had finally croaked; He pushed forward a lot of reforms that allowed China to start pulling the economic bullshit that became noticeable when China took Hong Kong. Crucially, when his reforms led to the Tienanmen Square Protests he went against his reformer clique and sided with the hardliners, which locked China into what they have become today where they are now using a market economy to their advantage but so far have not had their one-party state collapse.

I would also quibble that the British Empire had already collapsed after the Suez Crisis, but, well, if they weren't dead by the Suez Crisis they definitely were when they had China actually influenced/strong-armed them into giving up Hong Kong.

Either way, Great OP.
 
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A thousand-year old lich of an empire that just can't fucking end fast enough for the good of humanity. Fantastic OP, extremely informative, got all the juicy points hammered out. I look forward to seeing how this thread advances in the coming days and months.

Let us all join hands as one species and pray for many cracks in the dam.
 
By the way, one of the aviators flying for Chennault's group was a gentleman by the name of Greg "Pappy" Boyington, the Marine Aviator's Marine Aviator. Boyington went there, and did that. Whatever "that" was, he did. He flew P40s, he flew F4U Crusaders, he spent time in a POW camp. I highly recommend reading Baa Baa Black Sheep, the story of his time in the war.

One funny anecdote he related was that the Japanese thought so little of POWs brought to the home islands that they put the infirm, stupid, or outright plain retards guarding them. He had an "okay" prisoner/guard relationship with one guy who loved American westerns, and would try to talk to Boyington about them in broken English, including doing impressions of his favorites. Once, he did an impression so elaborate, he took a broom to use as a "horse" as part of it. Of course, he couldn't do that and hold his rifle, so he handed his loaded (presumably loaded) rifle to Boyington while he galloped back and forth in the prison yard, straddling the broom.

"...we are poor little lambs,
who have lost our way,
BAA, BAA, BAA."


 
Let us all join hands as one species and pray for many cracks in the dam.
I will not pray for cracks in a massive dam upstream from massive population centers like Nanjing and Shanghai. The dam itself is in Hubei which has had to go through enough shit in the last twelve months.

Please remember that the majority of Chinese people are just people going about their lives and making the best of their situation just like everyone else. Not everybody in China is a CCP member or supporter.

I'm inclined to believe that whatever issues the dam has are being blown out of proportion by anti-CCP groups (who probably need their own post in this thread at some point), but if there are real issues, I will instead pray that they can be repaired without risk to life and property.
 
I will not pray for cracks in a massive dam upstream from massive population centers like Nanjing and Shanghai. The dam itself is in Hubei which has had to go through enough shit in the last twelve months.

Please remember that the majority of Chinese people are just people going about their lives and making the best of their situation just like everyone else. Not everybody in China is a CCP member or supporter.

I'm inclined to believe that whatever issues the dam has are being blown out of proportion by anti-CCP groups (who probably need their own post in this thread at some point), but if there are real issues, I will instead pray that they can be repaired without risk to life and property.
Let's face it, it's not exactly like the CCP would fix the damages if it did break.
 
Excellent work!

This was the bit that stood out for me:

Fast-forward to the party's arrival at Yan'an, a bombed out crap hole where Mao would theorize and bolster his power as Chinese people came far and wide, dissatisfied with the Kuomintang party's inability to repel the Japanese. It was here that Mao would let his true self cut loose by doing away with the egalitarian utopia and firmly establishes a hierarchy with himself as supreme leader (as if he didn't already have this clout but whatever), from here on in Yan'an, everything was graded by this hierarchy whereby certain tiers of people would receive certain rations, housing & clothes, with himself getting the best of everything. He then opens himself up to public criticism to bait out early dissidents so he can torture a confession out of them by proxy of his thugs while he watches from a distance, like a pervert voyeur. This would be come to be known as the Rectification Movement.


Rectification Movement.



What a sneaky cunt's trick!

I mean, it feels like every other power play by the MSM these days, if they were recording all our IP's on databases. But what a way to get a movement going!

I'd be very interested in hearing about this period from those that know a bit more about it. I could look it up, but there's nothing like someone who has read half a dozen books on the subject who can boil it down for you in to idiot-sized pieces.

I have a feeling this thread may not go in the direction you are hoping for.

Then again, it may exceed all your expectations. I hope so.

(I have a couple of sources I can pilfer from, it might even be interesting...)

Kudos all the same for the brass balls for starting it. May we all learn something we did not know before.






 
LOL dont forget the time mao encouraged free speech and then killed everyone who spoke out against communism like a year later. Also If I recall Winnie the poos parents were killed by mao during the cultural revolution so you would think he would hate the CCP but he seems just as bad.
 
The most fascinating thing to me currently is the idea of the inverted pyramid china might have to face because of their one child policy and not being a high trust society.

I decided to make a image to explain it a bit better

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There are no nieces, or sisters or brother to help you, there are little welfare programs, people aren't that generous since they too have to deal with this inverted pyramid realization. you, thanks to the one child policy will be all alone to support your parents, and your grandparents and maybe even their parents if living ages in china keeps going up at the rate they have.

This is a time-bomb and I hope for the CCPs sake they have a decent plan to make this one work.
 
The most fascinating thing to me currently is the idea of the inverted pyramid china might have to face because of their one child policy and not being a high trust society.

I decided to make a image to explain it a bit better

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There are no nieces, or sisters or brother to help you, there are little welfare programs, people aren't that generous since they too have to deal with this inverted pyramid realization. you, thanks to the one child policy will be all alone to support your parents, and your grandparents and maybe even their parents if living ages in china keeps going up at the rate they have.

This is a time-bomb and I hope for the CCPs sake they have a decent plan to make this one work.
I thought the one child policy was scrapped, an while ago?

And also, for an extra dose of idiocy, everyone wants an son and sell their daughters to slavery. What could go wrong?
 
I thought the one child policy was scrapped, an while ago?

And also, for an extra dose of idiocy, everyone wants an son and sell their daughters to slavery. What could go wrong?

It was scrapped 4 years ago and replaced with the two child policy, which suggests they know what they have on their hands. However that doesn't exactly change much as it's been in place for a while. Another issue with the policy is the amount of chinese boys compared to girls due to parents rather wanting a boy since they "earn more". The easy way to fix this may be to reward female immigration / marriage visas from the Philippines or other shitty nearby countries.

out of all the shitty policies china has enacted, the one child policy has to be one of the most underrated in terms of pure retardation.
 
It was scrapped 4 years ago and replaced with the two child policy, which suggests they know what they have on their hands. However that doesn't exactly change much as it's been in place for a while. Another issue with the policy is the amount of chinese boys compared to girls due to parents rather wanting a boy since they "earn more". The easy way to fix this may be to reward female immigration / marriage visas from the Philippines or other shitty nearby countries.
The one child policy will prove to be just as devastating to China's prospects as all of their other retarded policies, you can almost admire their half-assed solutions to everything like an out of touch British matriarch, only real instead of propaganda.

"Let them eat cake!"
 
The one child policy will prove to be just as devastating to China's prospects as all of their other retarded policies, you can almost admire their half-assed solutions to everything like an out of touch British matriarch, only real instead of propaganda.

"Let them eat cake!"

I think the impressive part of the one child policy was its sheer duration. Granted, it only "really" existed for a few years, since large swaths of the population were able to have two children in various circumstances, but still, for much of the population it existed for decades. At least the sparrow destruction campaign only made it 2 years before they realized it was a bad plan, though that was probably because of the whole "millions starving to death" thing.
 
I thought the one child policy was scrapped, an while ago?

And also, for an extra dose of idiocy, everyone wants an son and sell their daughters to slavery. What could go wrong?
Well even when a policy is scrapped, when it comes to demographics it can take a long term for consequences to become apparent or "roll through".
 
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