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So the Speaker of the House, unarguably the most-powerful Democrat in the entire country, flouting all of her own rules and laws and then spinning on a dime to try and blame and destroy a small business simply for calling her out on her hypocrisy just isn't newsworthy to you, huh? She told people they couldn't go to work, couldn't go to school, couldn't go to funerals or make hospital visits or lounge on a beach or go to the hair salon like she was caught doing, and you don't see anything interesting about this story?

Journalists are useless.
 
My dad decided to participate in one of these vaccine trials, I have no idea which one it is since there are so many going on. Standard double-blind trial, he was either injected with the vaccine or a placebo and then they'll check the results later. He said he thinks he got the placebo since there was no reaction at the injection site, but who knows. My mom and I both agreed that we don't want to be guinea pigs, so we'll let him be stupid because there's no sense in arguing with him once he's made up his mind about something. At least he's getting paid for it, I guess.

I think anyone who's clamoring to be first in line for this or any Wu Flu vaccine is a moron. It's been like what, six or seven months since this whole shebang kicked off? I'm sure most vaccines have a much longer development period than that. I see no point in taking a barely-tested vaccine against a disease that doesn't even cause symptoms in a huge number of people that catch it, and for most of the rest, it's little more than a standard flu.

The sheer amount of stupidity and insanity in response to the Wu Flu is gonna fill so many books in the years to come.
 
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So the Speaker of the House, unarguably the most-powerful Democrat in the entire country, flouting all of her own rules and laws and then spinning on a dime to try and blame and destroy a small business simply for calling her out on her hypocrisy just isn't newsworthy to you, huh? She told people they couldn't go to work, couldn't go to school, couldn't go to funerals or make hospital visits or lounge on a beach or go to the hair salon like she was caught doing, and you don't see anything interesting about this story?

Journalists are useless.
Journalists as they are now are the enemy of the people. Its that simple.
 
Journalists are useless.

No, they are extremely useful -- to the enemies of humanity. They've all been paid off. They've sold their souls and have agreed to serve evil people. I used to feel physically sick at the thought of governments arresting journalists. Not anymore.
Now, I'm looking forward to the aftermath of this whole situation when we finally start cleaning up the mess these people made. I'm looking forward to the public executions of these journalists (after a fair trial, of course -- completely 100% legal). Shit, I might even sign up to be an executioner myself. I hear the job pays pretty well, and it's important to do a job that you believe in.
 
I think it'll be funny when Trump inevitably crows about how awesome the vaccine is, and how awesome his administration is for getting it to market so quickly.
"We've made a vaccine, the best vaccine. Russia said they'd make a vaccine first but I put my best people on the job. The greatest doctors in the world, and we made the vaccine. It's really great at stopping the China Virus." - Trump, probably
 
So I debating someone on WuFlu, and said "its nothing to worry about", and got ganged up that "it caused bloodclots, no other disease caused that". I thought that was one of the rare(?) effects on the elderly, not a guarantee whenever you got it?
 
So I debating someone on WuFlu, and said "its nothing to worry about", and got ganged up that "it caused bloodclots, no other disease caused that". I thought that was one of the rare(?) effects on the elderly, not a guarantee whenever you got it?
No the Kung Flu is 100% fatal. Even if you're just standing in the same room with someone who has it, you'll be dead within a week.*

*Kung Flu not guaranteed to be fatal if rioting or going to hair salons. Morbidity and infection is closely associated with political affiliation. Results may vary.
 
No the Kung Flu is 100% fatal. Even if you're just standing in the same room with someone who has it, you'll be dead within a week.*

*Kung Flu not guaranteed to be fatal if rioting or going to hair salons. Morbidity and infection is closely associated with political affiliation. Results may vary.
theres also the talk of "long term effects", which I said that "but theres no data", and they keep hounding on me with other random effects it did (including the hair loss that they ignored with me countering it with "doesn't stressful situations cause hair loss though?"). Nevermind the fact that one of them brought up ventilators and I pointed out that it has a higher chance of ruining your lungs permanently than WuFlu itself.
EDIT ADDITION: Now that I think about it, the conflict of information is really hurting people. Even if I pointed out the biggest thing: that the riots lasted for four months and counting and they didn't drop like flies on all that time, people still go "The spike is coming, you'll see!"
 
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i still remember when the swine flu vaccine came out and some kids ended up getting narcolepsy as a result. i would stay away for atleast a few months before taking anything.

Second person to say that, any of you guys got a link to the story, for preemptive ANTIVAXXERS REEE reasons. You know the resident faggots will equate waiting for actual results on a rushed vaccine to the OMG ALL VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM crowd.

Cuz yaknow, they're better at sciencing than actual scientists now, even though they still can't get the part where the BIGGEST version of coronachan is barely stopped by an actual mask, much less the retarded fake chinese knockoffs.

theres also the talk of "long term effects", which I said that "but theres no data", and they keep hounding on me with other random effects it did (including the hair loss that they ignored with me countering it with "doesn't stressful situations cause hair loss though?"). Nevermind the fact that one of them brought up ventilators and I pointed out that it has a higher chance of ruining your lungs permanently than WuFlu itself.
Only "long term effect" I got was my allergies being longer than usual, and it's gone now. If anything, I'm starting to think wearing the shitty masks we have to at work is prolly doing more damage to my nose at this point, since cleaning it doesn't get rid of any of the smells, or particles, or dander.

I remember some debunkings of whatever symptoms they keep going on about though:
-Nerve Damage = ONE study in South Korea based on a couple of dudes that was never replicated
- Bloodclots = Elderly people with preexisting cardiovascular illnesses, and people with shitty dietary issues becoming suddenly sedentary
-Child gets killed because of it = Freak neurological illness they didn't know until he died/Illness from traveling abroad without updating vaccines/another flu virus that is massively dangerous
-____ chemical not working = Mentally Ill wife tries to capitalize on political schism to say DRUMPF BAD while killing her husband that was musing getting a divorce/ literally not even the same chemical but it sounded the same so DRUMPF BAD/ Evil bad man said it good so DRUMPF BAD.
-diarreah = It's a study from India, literally breathing in that place is enough to give you the curry shits.
 
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Second person to say that, any of you guys got a link to the story, for preemptive ANTIVAXXERS REEE reasons. You know the resident faggots will equate waiting for actual results on a rushed vaccine to the OMG ALL VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM crowd.

Cuz yaknow, they're better at sciencing than actual scientists now, even though they still can't get the part where the BIGGEST version of coronachan is barely stopped by an actual mask, much less the retarded fake chinese knockoffs.

There was a significant increase in prevalence of narcolepsy in the children vaccinated by a specific vaccine made by GSK. Though it should be said that as scary as "nine fold increase" sounds, narcolepsy is quite rare, so it actually equated to 3.6 people per 100,000.
 
-Child gets killed because of it = Freak neurological illness they didn't know until he died/Illness from traveling abroad without updating vaccines/another flu virus that is massively dangerous
I pointed out that the one child pages back who died of drowning with covid because he got a seizure(?) the mom didn't know of. He got counted as a Wuflu case. The people went "He still died of Covid". What the fuck. The word 'with' doesn't exist anymore?
I then posted the article of the CDC saying there's 9000+ deaths and they called me stupid because there could be uncountable millions dead. I then posted that Twitter erased posts that mention and they still go "MILLIONS COULD BE DEAD RIGHT NOW".
That could be true but I'm amazed that nobody thought that the wildly changing numbers brought up alarm bells to their heads. Then they brought up that I was scared when this first popped up. Holy shit, I wish I could give them a smack to their heads. It was a new thing with no actual study behind it, we had no information, and then the later conflicting nonstop information and evidence plainly told us that this was nothing to worry about.
I wish there was a few things I could post to them to make them stop being so paranoid.
EDIT: Pointing out that masks now have the "This mask doesn't not protect you from COVID-19" text on their packages didn't work either. I'm at my wits end on being ganged by my own friends here.
EDIT 2: One of my friends summoned one of his friends, who was taking a nurse job. Basically repeated most of the stuff I said. And they still saw it as a disease where if you get it, you automatically die after a while. How do I even get through this mess?
 
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I pointed out that the one child pages back who died of drowning with covid because he got a seizure(?) the mom didn't know of. He got counted as a Wuflu case. The people went "He still died of Covid". What the fuck. The word 'with' doesn't exist anymore?
I then posted the article of the CDC saying there's 9000+ deaths and they called me stupid because there could be uncountable millions dead. I then posted that Twitter erased posts that mention and they still go "MILLIONS COULD BE DEAD RIGHT NOW".
That could be true but I'm amazed that nobody thought that the wildly changing numbers brought up alarm bells to their heads. Then they brought up that I was scared when this first popped up. Holy shit, I wish I could give them a smack to their heads. It was a new thing with no actual study behind it, we had no information, and then the later conflicting nonstop information and evidence plainly told us that this was nothing to worry about.
I wish there was a few things I could post to them to make them stop being so paranoid.

It is almost as if we live in this strange topsy turby land, where the NPC's have to think inverse to logic. These where all the same people that told us that we where hysterical and there was nothing to worry about. Now they are so fucking paranoid that they are still keeping the economy closed and are still mandating the ineffective masks until we have the magic mystery serum. In the beginning when we knew none of the facts, I was worried as well, but I never came to the point of buying all the toilet paper or raiding the super market shelves. This entire crisis has proven to me to never listen to the media again or any of the "experts." As well, to disregard what most of the grifters even have to say at this point, the reality is that no one knows shit, and take your own precautions depending on your personal comfort level. I totally lost my job because of this shit, the general economy is a lot worse than it was before, barely anybody is hiring right now. At least I am young enough that college is still a sensible option for the time being. I really don't see an end to this autism until at least the end of the year.


It's come to time that I finally shared my favourite Carlin clip:


 
It is almost as if we live in this strange topsy turby land, where the NPC's have to think inverse to logic. These where all the same people that told us that we where hysterical and there was nothing to worry about. Now they are so fucking paranoid that they are still keeping the economy closed and are still mandating the ineffective masks until we have the magic mystery serum. In the beginning when we knew none of the facts, I was worried as well, but I never came to the point of buying all the toilet paper or raiding the super market shelves.
Most of my worry came from two things: completely new disease, and me going to the US to watch over my family and two countries over became a quickly spreading hotspot. The hotspot location was a funeral in an area of poor immigrants and high crime before all this blew up, so it brought a creeping dread because I didn't know of that back then then it stopped. Then wildly conflicted information came out and goverment doubling down on the lockdowns.
The fact that the riots (of maskless rioters, mind you!) has been going for 4 months already and there's not a surge of cases and deaths is all people need to know yet they are ignoring it. It boggles the mind.
No its not like the flu, it causes bloodcots, it causes long-term damage, it causes your hair to fall off, it causes children to die- you were scared back then too! Why are you not scared now, we got all the evidences of what it causes! What, the rioters? They don't exist! Why are you thinking with logic?
EDIT: fixed grammar, I really need to stop thinking way ahead of what I'm typing
 
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/health/amp/texas-health-experts-coronavirus-numbers-covid-15531943.php

With most state coronavirus statistical measures entering a fourth straight week of steady decline, Gov. Greg Abbott is signaling he may roll back some emergency restrictions imposed at the height of the summer surge.

In a response Monday night to concerns from workers in the battered restaurant industry, the Republican governor tweeted that new infections and hospitalizations from COVID-19 are waning, then added “I hope to provide updates next week about next steps.”


“Since my last orders in July, COVID numbers have declined — most importantly hospitalizations,” Abbott wrote.

The governor gave no indication what steps he might take next, and a spokesman did not respond to questions. But Abbott said recently he would consider allowing bars to reopen and restaurants to reopen further if current trends
Abbott on Aug. 19 tjold KXAS in Dallas that to loosen restrictions there’d need to be a downard trend in hospitalizations and a positive COVID-19 test rate below 10 percent for two weeks. The number dropped to 10.13 percent Tuesday, down from 24.5 percent in mid-August and the lowest since June 22. It’s been between 11 percent and 16 percent the last 2½ weeks.

Texas COVID-19 hospitalizations have declined the most significantly — 4,144 Tuesday, down from 10,893 on July 22 — but new cases, positive test rates, daily deaths and viral spread are all dropping. They are dropping enough that one Texas modeler, Spencer Fox of University of Texas at Austin, went so far as to say he thinks that Texas may have seen the worst of the pandemic — as long as people continue to wear masks and keep their guard up.

A number of other health experts warned against lifting restrictions, noting that the coming Labor Day weekend, the expected resumption of schools and seasonal weather changes have the potential to cause a resurgence like Texas experienced earlier in the summer. They also said the amount of transmission, although improved, is still way too high.

“I don’t want to be Debbie Downer, but we’ve been surprised before,” Catherine Troisi, an infectious disease epidemiologist at the UTHealth School of Public Health, said last Friday. “It’s a double-edged sword when things start looking better. The virus is still out there, but people think things can go back to normal.”

Troisi added that some experts are hesitant because of the state’s data reporting problems, because it’s possible some other issue will surface. Those problems include under testing, coding errors that caused backlogged results and combining positive diagnostic and antibody tests.

Chris Amos, a Baylor College of Medicine quantitative scientist, said “the timing could not be worse for rolling back.”

“Given the number who test positive reflect perhaps 10 times as many individuals who have not been tested but are positive,” said Amos, “there remains a large pool of individuals who can spread COVID-19 if they begin interacting with many others, and particularly if we allow large groups to start coming together again.”

Amos acknowledged that optimism about opening up is natural given the slowing of COVID-19’s spread. The spread is measured by a value, known as reproductivity, that suggests a slowing or growing of the virus. Over 1 means each infected person transmits it to an average of more than one person and the epidemic grows; under 1 means the virus is transmitted to less than one person and the epidemic won’t sustain itself.

The value for the state overall has been under 1 since July 20.

According to Amos’ calculations, if the state maintains the current trend, with the number around 0.87, it would take 38 days to reduce the COVID-19 burden by another 50 percent.

It’s important to keep reducing that burden before students resume in-person classes, Amos said. He and others advised against a one-size-fits-all approach.

“Not every community or county in Texas is experiencing the same burden of disease,” said Angela Clendenin, an epidemiologist with the Texas A&M School of Public Health. “In some places, it may be justified to roll back some restrictions whereas in others, it’d be ill-advised to do so. It will be critically important that rolling back restrictions does not send the message that we are somehow ‘all clear.’”

Down but creeping up
Areas of concern include Houston, where the numbers have been down for the past month but have been creeping up in recent days — the seven-day rolling average of cases has grown and spread has exceeded 1 the last three days, after 20 straight days below. Officials said it is too early to tell if the increases are just a blip or the start of a trend.

Either way, Baylor College of Medicine infectious disease specialist Dr. Peter Hotez calls the current situation “purgatory” — no longer the hell marked by sky-high levels of transmission and huge numbers of patients in hospitals and intensive-care units, but bad enough that people can’t return to a normal life and existence.”

Hotez, who urges tighter controls instead of rolling back, says he expects the case numbers to go back up as schools and colleges open. And although the spike after the Fourth of July wasn’t as big as the one after Memorial Day, he worries Labor Day will bring more more spread.

In the last month, however, the state’s metrics have steadily improved. In addition to the reduced spread and fewer hospitalizations, the rolling seven-day average of cases is down from more than 10,000 in mid-July to 4,753 this week; and the rolling average for daily deaths is down from more than 330 to about 150 this week.

Fox, the associate director at the University of Texas-Austin COVID-19 Modeling Consortium, attributes the improvement to individual behavior, local or state policies and perhaps even some limited immunity having effect as the disease has spread to a more significant portion of the population.

A report issued by the consortium last week showed the virus’ spread was declining — that is, the value is under 1 — in all of the state’s trauma service areas. It also found each area’s risk of exceeding general hospital capacity is now below 10 percent.

“The situation is really improving pretty dramatically in almost all regions across the state,” said Fox. “We need to monitor the situation closely and not let our guard down. Hopefully, we’ve seen the worst of it — that at any sign of resurgence officials will do what’s necessary to stem increases and people will react to avoid a return of the situation we’ve been in.”
 
How do I even get through this mess?
Do it like everyone else, make in-jokes at their expense, if they're going to be willfully retarded, then might as well get some entertainment out of it with your other friends. And if nothing else, they'll at least pretend to not be retarded instead of being outright retarded. Peer Pressure is a helluva drug.

And never take anything they say seriously. Ever. As in every promise he makes, every time schedule he promises he can "make" make sure there's a backup somewhere, relagate him to the groups antartica.
You've heard of boy who cried wolf, now it's manchild that gouges his own eyes.

Hey did you know there's a phase two of that malware Google / Apple are forcing you to install on 99.999% of the phones sold worldwide?


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Now they'll happily "help" the states by creating state branded apps for them.
You'd think that Silicon Valley wouldn't partner with any government after SOPA/PIPA/Sec230 faggotry, but apparently they want to shit on their golden goose if there's a possibility of getting an extra regular goose out of it.
 
On my ramblings on yesterday, I just noticed two things.

  1. Why are people going "think of the old people" when they will die in a year later or to another disease? They're old. If they really want to panic over this then where was this on Pneunomia, aptly called 'The Old Man's Friend' for a reason? Where was this on literally any other disease, even the common cold? They do have weakened immune systems because they're old. Where was this panic over the pregnant women being killed over at SARS(? I think it was SARS). They're young, they have more life ahead of them, and they're also carrying the lives of others. Human instinct should made people protective of the pregnant women but they... didn't. They just left them and their unborn babies to die. SARS wasn't even politically charged either.
  2. When this popped up, people were trying to quell others those that are rightfully worried because this is some unknown disease. Again, human instinct should had made them somewhat scared to the disease itself, moreso the fact that it was completely new at the time. And yet, they didn't.
Something really weird is going on here.
 
Like I said, I work with that shit for a living. I know how death certificates work. Sorry that you are just too stubborn to admit that you were wrong.

I didn't read the rest of your post because it's obvious you're just a rambling idiot and I don't have all night
I'm too stubborn to admit I'm wrong about what, dipshit? I said you were right about the 6 percent thing.

I'm not surprised you didn't read the rest, you're good at avoiding being informed.

But you did leave your hugbox so there is hope for you yet.
 
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