2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Meat Target]

This might be cringe, but I'll say it anyway. If you're a white American (and in particular Christian) and you're not at least planning an exodus to another country, you're an idiot. The demographics are still manageable is many parts of the country, but the overall demographic shift is horrifying. And it's the overall population that determines our country's laws and culture. I see Catholic churches get burned and vandalized like every week, and not a word from anyone in power. A woman got punched while attending mass by a black woman and they immediately let her go.

This country will by no means be a safe place to live in about 15 to 20 years regardless of who wins what election. As of right now Poland or Hungary seems to be the safest places in the world, but that could also change in the near future.

Running is cowardice.

 

[It's HK-47]

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They are having a sad about this, claiming that Trump just told everyone to double vote.

Well he's right. If the system is secure and a vote can't be counted twice, what's the concern? Watching them completely freak out about this is pretty funny because they're just proving his point.

 

[Moufang Loop]

Running is cowardice.

I prefer to live comfortably and theres no sense in fighting when you've already lost. Plus I'm only a second generation American so maybe I dont have the same connection to staying here as alot of other people, which I totally understand. I knew what I said before wasnt going to be popular, but I figured I'd share my opinion.

 

[heyitsmike]

I believe Silver and is methodology got a lot of cred back in 2008 (or maybe 2012) for accurately predicting the election results in every state. While somewhat impressive, it's not that great of an acheivement. Without any data at all I could predict the outcome in probably at least 35 of the states. Plus McCain and Romney were extraordinarily weak candidates so it's a safe assumption that Obama would win most swing states against them.

In retrospect, what Nate Silver did wasn't really that impressive, he was just first to do it. Innovative, yes. Impressive, no. He took polls, adjusted them and averaged them. It's not really rocket science.

It kinda reminds me of Billy Beane and moneyball. Oakland was the first team to do sabermetrics and it was truly revolutionary. I have to give credit where credit is due. But they are by no means the best at it, even though they invented it. Tampa Bay is far better with analytics.

Nate Silver pioneered the field sure, but he's no oracle.

 

[Reverend]

Every other place is pozzed and I like guns. What's a guy to do?

Open a company, get your Class B/C license. Buy machine guns and ammo.

Enjoy being a tax deducting american more armed than any firecracker one armed terrorist.

 

[Absolutego]

Really we should be giving Nate Silver credit, because if he didn't call 2012 99% correctly, I'm not sure Hillary picks an analytics obsessive like Robby Mook to be her campaign manager. And Mook was the one so dedicated to the idea that she didn't need to campaign outside of Democrat strongholds.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

I prefer to live comfortably and theres no sense in fighting when you've already lost. Plus I'm only a second generation American so maybe I dont have the same connection to staying here as alot of other people, which I totally understand. I knew what I said before wasnt going to be popular, but I figured I'd share my opinion.

 

[Grey Gardens]

This might be cringe, but I'll say it anyway. If you're a white American (and in particular Christian) and you're not at least planning an exodus to another country, you're an idiot. The demographics are still manageable is many parts of the country, but the overall demographic shift is horrifying. And it's the overall population that determines our country's laws and culture. I see Catholic churches get burned and vandalized like every week, and not a word from anyone in power. A woman got punched while attending mass by a black woman and they immediately let her go.

This country will by no means be a safe place to live in about 15 to 20 years regardless of who wins what election. As of right now Poland or Hungary seems to be the safest places in the world, but that could also change in the near future.

The biggest reason I don't see this as feasable is that I'm hearing the same "America Bad Time to Move!" message from both the far left and far right. Everyone else is hoping they all follow through on their threats to leave so the rest of us can grill.

Also, before moving to another continent or country...why not consider moving to another state? Until States' Rights get eroded far more than they are now I see it as a better and easier alternative than moving to a whole other country. Looking at California vs. Arizona vs. Montana (random examples and probably not the best ones) you can see they kind of are like other countries, but you don't have to worry about citizenship, learning a new language, or the host of other issues (like how the government actually works vs. how books tell you it works) that dropping yourself into a foreign culture will bring.

I don't know anything about daily life in Poland but I do know that the first generation Polish I interact with here make the idea of living in a whole country of Polish folks an absolute nightmare scenario.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I am amazed at the number of RINOS and uniparty cucks in the Republican Party that are happy with a Joe Biden presidency. Some former gop governor named Rick Snyder has endorsed Biden today. Trump has to win to clean out the GOP and stop the uniparty.

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

"If I don't like the direction things are going if Trump loses I'll move to a country that I like more."

"Now let me tell you about how those Californians escaping to other states fuck them up eventually"

I swear it'd be funny if it wasn't sad.
addendum: fuck off we're full

 

[break these cuffs]

"If I don't like the direction things are going if Trump loses I'll move to a country that I like more."

"Now let me tell you about how those Californians escaping to other states fuck them up eventually"

I swear it'd be funny if it wasn't sad.
addendum: fuck off we're full

At least the responses he's getting are "lol no".

 

[ThatOneLurker]

If Trump loses, I think I'll just check out of politics except locally. If the majority of voters want the Democratic Party's insane faggoty, then they get what they vote for.

Same. Find a nice small town and just give up.

 

[UselessIdiot]

Same. Find a nice small town and just give up.

Luckily, the suburb I live in is heavily Republican, nice, and very low-crime -- naturally.

I don't think I could take living in a small town, just because I'm not used to it. I can see why many conservatives would love it though.

 

[legalkochi]

-snip-

I really don't worry about it, because Biden isn't going to win. Period.

And before someone says, "Well, what about them cheating?" Considering the Democrats' track record on competence, they would probably fuck that up too and make it obvious to see. (And again, that's assuming Trump isn't doing something about it. I highly doubt he's letting this loophole go by. The AG yesterday on CNN already tore the case for mail-in ballots to shreds, so it's big foreshadowing).

And just remember that all the polls are full of shit. There was an election pollster back in 2016 or so that said, "You can't poll Trump," and he's still right to this day. You cannot poll the man accurately.

 

[Meat Target]

I really don't worry about it, because Biden isn't going to win. Period.

And before someone says, "Well, what about them cheating?" Considering the Democrats' track record on competence, they would probably fuck that up too and make it obvious to see. (And again, that's assuming Trump isn't doing something about it. I highly doubt he's letting this loophole go by. The AG yesterday on CNN already tore the case for mail-in ballots to shreds, so it's big foreshadowing).

And just remember that all the polls are full of shit. There was an election pollster back in 2016 or so that said, "You can't poll Trump," and he's still right to this day. You cannot poll the man accurately.

Giving you a rainbow not because I think you're wrong, but because I'm hoping against hope that you're right. It's not over till it's over, and I won't sleep easily until then.

 

[Bass]

They can't legally replace Biden, the deadline for that has long passed. The only way they can replace him legally is if he dies. Anything else would trigger a constitutional crisis.

More like theyre stuck with Biden's name on the ballot, no matter what, but they can run with it being a vote for generic democrat, and directing the DNC controlled electors to vote for someone else.

 

[heyitsmike]

To everyone who thinks Biden won't completely melt down in the debates, why? All it will take is one time Trump getting under his skin and prodding and prodding and prodding...

Ever seen a legal television show or movie where the defendant gets on the stand and starts saying stuff they really shouldn't? And then the shot cuts to the defense attorney and they've got this horrified look on their face? I feel like that's how the debates will go.

 

[CrippleThreat]

To everyone who thinks Biden won't completely melt down in the debates, why? All it will take is one time Trump getting under his skin and prodding and prodding and prodding...

Ever seen a legal television show or movie where the defendant gets on the stand and starts saying stuff they really shouldn't? And then the shot cuts to the defense attorney and they've got this horrified look on their face? I feel like that's how the debates will go.
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The "...they'll shoot me" quote in question:

I guess Biden has very rich enemies too. His Trump metamorphosis is coming along swimmingly.

 

[Aidan]

The "...they'll shoot me" quote in question:

I guess Biden has very rich enemies too. His Trump metamorphosis is coming along swimmingly.

I laugh every time I see the official Donald Trump channel uploads this shit. I believe Trump is a genuine master shitposter, it just comes naturally to him which is made all the better by him being a literal boomer.

 

[RedStorm]

To build on top of my earlier post, this is the map where all states that I think have a >70% chance of going for Trump if *the election were today* are in red and all states that I think have a a >70% chance of going Biden are in blue.

Trump can pull off a 270 bare minimum victory by winning Arizona and Wisconsin alone. If he somehow doesn't win Arizona because I underestimated the influx of latinos and dems and cuckery of NeverTrumpers who elected McCain&Flake, he can still win by taking 2 of the following: MN/WI/MI/PA and average polling in these states have a small enough 'Biden lead' that if Trump outperforms polling like he did in 2016 or how many Republicans did in 2018, then he'd pull off a victory that way.

Of course, a Biden victory is possible if it were today, but for them to be *confident* of one, they'd need things to get a good bit worse than it is for Trump right now (e.g. hope for a mutation of coronavirus that's far more deadly, hope for an unexpected foreign policy blunder, hope for some success in a surprise scandal that none of us know about right now, etc)

For Trump's campaign to be truly confident of a win they'd want things to get better. How? More good economic news (recovery is going faster than expected), no real bad 'second wave' of coronavirus, people getting more frustrated at Dems because of lockdowns&lockdown hypocrisy (e.g. Pelosi's salon, preaching that we all must stay home and you're bad if you go out but it's ok if you join a retarded violent BLM riot), unexpected successes in foreign policy for Trump, unexpected scandals for Dems, that kind of thing.

I think it's a reasonable trajectory for the economy to improve and coronavirus second wave to be a dud and for people to get even madder at Dems for BLM nonsense, to the point where Trump wins all the states in grey & maybe flips Nevada and/or Maine-At-Large, which would be a scenario where he's winning the national popular vote.

Anything more than that would require things like Biden unexpectedly having a really bad gaffe, an unexpected Dem scandal, basically any kind of surprise that benefits Trump.

tl;dr So, what is the point of the past couple posts? Well it's for me to basically say "Trump has recovered from the three month May-June-July summer slump" and has a decent chance of winning if the election were today. If things get better, he has a very solid chance at winning at a margin even greater than in 2016. If things get *a little worse* for him, he can still win albeit at a smaller margin.