Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[cuddle striker]

They thought it actually showed a kid dying. Violent and graphic content.

It doesn't.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I know institutions were bad, but this new way of doing it isn’t good either.

Got called a eugenicist because I asked whether or not it was ethical to save a 21 or 22 week baby.

Most home births are fine, so I bet baby #2 will be normal.

Where’s the father? Does he say anything?

“Most home births are fine” and “home births are better than hospital births” are why Luna ended up a potato. Are babies born healthy at home? sure. The issue is these women ignore big red flags, like being in labor for 40 hours, because they are convinced home births are better and safer than going to hospitals...and they are not.

So when a home birth starts being not fine, they ignore, and believe they are being heroic moms by sticking to squirting out a baby in a hot tub no matter what. The problem is a large majority of the women enamored with having a “home birth experience” have little common sense, they use woefully unprepared woo doulas and midwives that have little medical training. Everyone is more dedicated to avoiding the dreaded hospital birth than the health of the baby. A mother going to hospital the hospital is deemed a failure, not a precaution. (Also they don’t get their full fee if a doctor does the delivery and mothers get upset being stuck with an expensive hospital bill for a emergency delivery.)

So if a woman is part of the unlucky minority that run into some common complications during labor then their baby is in real danger because of this big prejudice against going to a hospital.

Something went wrong with her labor the first time. She has no idea what, since she never got proper medical care, so it could happen again. If she, and whatever quack midwife she had, ignored the air siren alarm of two days in labor she’d be apt to ignore just about any problem that may arise.

There are certainly women who do home birth the right way and aren’t morons like Ms Empath, but unfortunately there are more women closer to Empath on the home birth spectrum than practical, safe ones.

 

[Tovarisz]

“Most home births are fine” and “home births are better than hospital births” are why Luna ended up a potato. Are babies born healthy at home? sure. The issue is these women ignore big red flags, like being in labor for 40 hours, because they are convinced home births are better and safer than going to hospitals...and they are not.

So when a home birth starts being not fine, they ignore, and believe they are being heroic moms by sticking to squirting out a baby in a hot tub no matter what. The problem is a large majority of the women enamored with having a “home birth experience” have little common sense, they use woefully unprepared woo doulas and midwives that have little medical training. Everyone is more dedicated to avoiding the dreaded hospital birth than the health of the baby. A mother going to hospital the hospital is deemed a failure, not a precaution. (Also they don’t get their full fee if a doctor does the delivery and mothers get upset being stuck with an expensive hospital bill for a emergency delivery.)

So if a woman is part of the unlucky minority that run into some common complications during labor then their baby is in real danger because of this big prejudice against going to a hospital.

Something went wrong with her labor the first time. She has no idea what, since she never got proper medical care, so it could happen again. If she, and whatever quack midwife she had, ignored the air siren alarm of two days in labor she’d be apt to ignore just about any problem that may arise.

There are certainly women who do home birth the right way and aren’t morons like Ms Empath, but unfortunately there are more women closer to Empath on the home birth spectrum than practical, safe ones.

A good argument against "duh, humans been getting born outside of hospitals for thousands of years, we still here, lol" Just because we can doesn't mean we shouldn't at least give a fuck if something feels wrong about it.

Edit: My family has a female doggo, her first labour she ran around the house pooping out puppers everywhere when we slept, not even giving the care she should have given, we had to tear two out of the sack, 3 of 6 survived, her second poopering was a lot more controlled and less panicky, all puppers lived because the bitch knew what is happening and what to do.

That's a dog. Humans have access to all the knowledge but hey whatever, let's go back to caves and "go natural".

 

[Blonde Bomb]

“Most home births are fine” and “home births are better than hospital births” are why Luna ended up a potato. Are babies born healthy at home? sure. The issue is these women ignore big red flags, like being in labor for 40 hours, because they are convinced home births are better and safer than going to hospitals...and they are not.

So when a home birth starts being not fine, they ignore, and believe they are being heroic moms by sticking to squirting out a baby in a hot tub no matter what. The problem is a large majority of the women enamored with having a “home birth experience” have little common sense, they use woefully unprepared woo doulas and midwives that have little medical training. Everyone is more dedicated to avoiding the dreaded hospital birth than the health of the baby. A mother going to hospital the hospital is deemed a failure, not a precaution. (Also they don’t get their full fee if a doctor does the delivery and mothers get upset being stuck with an expensive hospital bill for a emergency delivery.)

So if a woman is part of the unlucky minority that run into some common complications during labor then their baby is in real danger because of this big prejudice against going to a hospital.

Something went wrong with her labor the first time. She has no idea what, since she never got proper medical care, so it could happen again. If she, and whatever quack midwife she had, ignored the air siren alarm of two days in labor she’d be apt to ignore just about any problem that may arise.

There are certainly women who do home birth the right way and aren’t morons like Ms Empath, but unfortunately there are more women closer to Empath on the home birth spectrum than practical, safe ones.

I had a woo woo friend who was hell bent on having her daughter at home. Midwives, doulas, etc. She labored for something like 18+ hours and finally the midwife tried to convince her to go to the hospital. She was firmly against it, even though her husband was begging her to go. What finally made her go was the midwife saying "Do you want a baby born alive or dead? Because if you continue like this, the baby probably isn't going to make it. I don't have the tools or equipment here to promise you 100% that your baby will be born alive & healthy."

She went to the hospital & ended up having a perfectly healthy baby, but the doctors said she should never have labored as long as she did & her daughter could have been seriously hurt or killed if she had continued another hour.

I think women want home births for two reasons (speaking as someone who has never had a child, so take it with a grain of salt):

One: They want it their way. Total control. No strangers, no weird hospital smells, no itchy bedsheets or weird gowns. They can have all the essential oils & ocean sounds their hearts desire, all the crystal placed on their bellies without sideways glances from the nurses, 100% validation (I say this as someone who has a sister in L&D who has told women who are screaming like a goddamn maniac that they were being dramatic, all that screaming is energy you should be putting towards pushing. Do you scream every time you're constipated? No), all the sweet words, encouragements & no negativity.

Two: They feel it makes them more of a mother or woman. Oh, you had an epidural in a hospital? I pushed my baby out in a creek bed as the sun rose over the hills, wearing my crystal crown while my midwives chanted and my husband caught the baby in a handwoven basket full of rosemary and lavender. They feel it makes them a better mother or closer to their baby than others, maybe. Meanwhile, there's my sister, who gave birth in a hospital, had no epidural or drugs, but her son broke her goddamn tailbone in his way out. That makes her a hell of a mother & woman to me. The fact that we as women can grown another human being inside us, push it out (or cut it out, doesn't matter) of us & then continue to live is a goddamn miracle.

Childbirth is a very personal experience (again, never had a kid). But I feel like some of these mothers are like bride-zillas. "This is my day! I've been dreaming about it since I was a little girl and no one - but no one - is going to ruin it for me!" And things can and do go wrong. With a wedding, the bottom line is you got married to a person you love among family & friends, who cares if the ring bearer farted on the altar or the roses weren't the specific type you wanted? With having a baby, the bottom line is do you have a healthy baby and a healthy mother? Then you win. Did you have to give up things like crystals and sage waving to go to a hospital because the baby was in distress? Sure, but your baby is alive & healthy.

Which is more important to you, the experience or the result?

 

[bigfart420666]

the epitome of health duhhhh

 

[Dysnomia]

Looks like youtube tried to remove one of Kayli's moms creepy videos and she and her asspatters reacted about how you'd expect
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Thankfully YouTube restored her miraculous video about the death and resurrection of her spud
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"disbute".

I'm sorry, but seeing a child die on camera is not appropriate for Youtube. The saddest thing about the video is that she was revived. I think Youtube should have stood their ground here.

What a fucking ghoul. What kind of parent wants that moment captured forever

But it's so inspirational to fellow potato farmers! If only every trisomy spud could have a re-birthday!

 

[bigfart420666]

it’s the braided rapunzel reference for me

 

[Questionable Ceviche]

it’s the braided rapunzel reference for me

Why is this kid so fat? That's beyond healthy baby fat. Steroids will make people fat, but are the parents just overfeeding through the tube?

 

[Allo Vera]

I think women want home births for two reasons (speaking as someone who has never had a child, so take it with a grain of salt):

I’ve had two kids and you’re pretty accurate. One thing I will point out is that women get brainwashed by this “natural is best, water births are best, no drugs... this will be the greatest and most empowering experience of your life!” ideology, before they get pregnant even. (Not all women, but a particular demographic: those who are more educated, more middle class, and more well-informed generally). These women are conditioned to fear hospital births and the “cascade of intervention” which could end in - the horror! - a c section. You only need to look at any parenting forum to see dozens of posts from genuinely distraught women discussing how depressed they are that they failed at birth, failed their babies and failed to achieve what they set out to do. They simply aren’t accustomed to failing at something because that’s never happened to them before.

So although I agree with what you said in the main, I actually don’t think these types of pregnant women desperate to have it their way are nutso Bridezilla types. A need for control comes from a place of fear. Childbirth is awful and shit scary and they’ve been conditioned to believe that hospitals are the scariest places of all.

And the point you made about plans going wrong? Well of course. Babies don’t get the memo that Mama has crystals and essentials oils and so they’d better not have a malpositioned head. But women are told that their bodies are perfectly designed to give birth with no problem (and that their bodies won’t grow a baby that’s too big to birth... lolz) and that laboring at home actually maximises the chances of everything going right.

So although Luna’s mama, and mothers like her, and their irresponsible midwives are stupid and reckless, they are a product of an ideology that’s supposed to empower women but, taken to extremes, actually harms them.

 

[AnOminous]

You only need to look at any parenting forum to see dozens of posts from genuinely distraught women discussing how depressed they are that they failed at birth, failed their babies and failed to achieve what they set out to do. They simply aren’t accustomed to failing at something because that’s never happened to them before.

This is incredibly dumb, because women who have c-sections now (aside from the occasional perverse choice to do it optionally) would have mostly historically just died in childbirth, often along with the child.

 

[Allo Vera]

Why is this kid so fat? That's beyond healthy baby fat. Steroids will make people fat, but are the parents just overfeeding through the tube?

The thing about these kids is they don’t move. They can’t. Their calorie requirements must be absolutely tiny. So although I think she is overfed, it probably doesn’t take much to over feed her.

 

[sperginity]

This is incredibly dumb, because women who have c-sections now (aside from the occasional perverse choice to do it optionally) would have mostly historically just died in childbirth, often along with the child.

it is usually the baby that dies in an obstructed labor. When women die in childbirth it is usually from post partum hemorrhaging, which happens basically at random even in otherwise uncomplicated births, or subsequent uterine infection (preeclampsia is another random complication that was fatal until recently). There are problems like fistula which are horrible, too, but don't kill people generally. Women died more often in childbirth in the past but they were still many more times likely to survive compared to babies of the same era. Childbirth racked up such a death toll because women averaged many pregnancies over a lifetime back then, and of course lack of medical technology. c-section increases the risk to the mother for bleeding and infection, but saves virtually every baby that would have been killed or brain damaged otherwise.

 

[heavycream]

if you want nightmares tonight

Spoiler: NSFL

this is "talking"
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mom's voice is creepier than kayli
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There's more life in the beach ball

About Kayli.

How was her mother able to convince a mainstream school to change a swimming pool policy? Wasn't the policy stating that incontinent students are not to be in the pool? Surely that's a serious health hazard regardless of whether the child is mentally incapacitated or just has some bowel control issues. I don't see how the whole 'my [unconscious] child needs sensory enrichment!' can usurp the need to protect the health and well being of the entirety of the student body that uses the pool.

Imagine being some other kid in there during sports class and watching this thing propped up on a float by 4 other adults unloading a massive shit in the shallow end.

 

[GenociderSyo]

About Kayli.

How was her mother able to convince a mainstream school to change a swimming pool policy? Wasn't the policy stating that incontinent students are not to be in the pool? Surely that's a serious health hazard regardless of whether the child is mentally incapacitated or just has some bowel control issues. I don't see how the whole 'my [unconscious] child needs sensory enrichment!' can usurp the need to protect the health and well being of the entirety of the student body that uses the pool.

Imagine being some other kid in there during sports class and watching this thing propped up on a float by 4 other adults unloading a massive shit in the shallow end.

It is actually pretty common for a parent to scream disability to get that to happen. We used to bring the students to a colleges pool used for swim team and I got written up once for refusing to take one of them into the pool due to them being menstruating at the time.

 

[allthecheese]

The thing about these kids is they don’t move. They can’t. Their calorie requirements must be absolutely tiny. So although I think she is overfed, it probably doesn’t take much to over feed her.

Absolutely correct. It does have to be monitored really closely however, because beyond the basal requirements of breathing and metabolism, she is still growing. Sometimes the need changes though, and if they're not being monitored well, their weight can shoot up fast. My tube fed kid was putting on more weight than I was happy with after getting her trach. It was figured that she was expending so much energy on struggling breathing during all of her pneumonias that once it became way easier, she had way more calories than she needed, so we're shaving them down now.

 

[Free the Pedos]

Absolutely correct. It does have to be monitored really closely however, because beyond the basal requirements of breathing and metabolism, she is still growing. Sometimes the need changes though, and if they're not being monitored well, their weight can shoot up fast. My tube fed kid was putting on more weight than I was happy with after getting her trach. It was figured that she was expending so much energy on struggling breathing during all of her pneumonias that once it became way easier, she had way more calories than she needed, so we're shaving them down now.

Do you have any particular insights on this thread as the parent of a special needs kid?

 

[large_farva]

Luna is blinking and Ms Empath is overjoyed.


"her eyes really stand out"
you don't say.

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

If you're looking for a new family to follow may I recommend this one? They've got everything! Fundamentalist (possibly Mormon as they are in Utah), disabled adopted black baby/white saviour complex, essential oil mommy blogger who thinks the kid is a prop. Not sure what's wrong with the kid, but she basically never wakes up and looks to have microcephaly. View attachment 1549655View attachment 1549657View attachment 1549658View attachment 1549665

Hairy Potty, crystals, spirit animals, dream catchers= occult
This monstrous unsentient being somehow animated despite having a condition incompatible with life= not occult

I had a woo woo friend who was hell bent on having her daughter at home. Midwives, doulas, etc. She labored for something like 18+ hours and finally the midwife tried to convince her to go to the hospital. She was firmly against it, even though her husband was begging her to go. What finally made her go was the midwife saying "Do you want a baby born alive or dead? Because if you continue like this, the baby probably isn't going to make it. I don't have the tools or equipment here to promise you 100% that your baby will be born alive & healthy."

She went to the hospital & ended up having a perfectly healthy baby, but the doctors said she should never have labored as long as she did & her daughter could have been seriously hurt or killed if she had continued another hour.

I think women want home births for two reasons (speaking as someone who has never had a child, so take it with a grain of salt):

One: They want it their way. Total control. No strangers, no weird hospital smells, no itchy bedsheets or weird gowns. They can have all the essential oils & ocean sounds their hearts desire, all the crystal placed on their bellies without sideways glances from the nurses, 100% validation (I say this as someone who has a sister in L&D who has told women who are screaming like a goddamn maniac that they were being dramatic, all that screaming is energy you should be putting towards pushing. Do you scream every time you're constipated? No), all the sweet words, encouragements & no negativity.

Two: They feel it makes them more of a mother or woman. Oh, you had an epidural in a hospital? I pushed my baby out in a creek bed as the sun rose over the hills, wearing my crystal crown while my midwives chanted and my husband caught the baby in a handwoven basket full of rosemary and lavender. They feel it makes them a better mother or closer to their baby than others, maybe. Meanwhile, there's my sister, who gave birth in a hospital, had no epidural or drugs, but her son broke her goddamn tailbone in his way out. That makes her a hell of a mother & woman to me. The fact that we as women can grown another human being inside us, push it out (or cut it out, doesn't matter) of us & then continue to live is a goddamn miracle.

Childbirth is a very personal experience (again, never had a kid). But I feel like some of these mothers are like bride-zillas. "This is my day! I've been dreaming about it since I was a little girl and no one - but no one - is going to ruin it for me!" And things can and do go wrong. With a wedding, the bottom line is you got married to a person you love among family & friends, who cares if the ring bearer farted on the altar or the roses weren't the specific type you wanted? With having a baby, the bottom line is do you have a healthy baby and a healthy mother? Then you win. Did you have to give up things like crystals and sage waving to go to a hospital because the baby was in distress? Sure, but your baby is alive & healthy.

Which is more important to you, the experience or the result?

I say this as someone who has a sister in L&D who has told women who are screaming like a goddamn maniac that they were being dramatic, all that screaming is energy you should be putting towards pushing. Do you scream every time you're constipated? No

Are you saying your sister says that to birthing women or she had that said to her when she was giving birth? That's an extremely cunty thing for a healthcare professional to say. People like that are what empower these homebirth freaks to flatout avoid proper medical care and kill their babies.

Luna is blinking and Ms Empath is overjoyed.

"her eyes really stand out"
you don't say.

It's so unethical to waste occupational therapy resources on futile cases like these. Think of how many kids in the world would greatly benefit from OT but their families can simply not afford and access it. Yet brainless babies like Claire, Lola and Luna get it when it will do them no good. Their brains are so useless, they might as well be anencephalic.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Looks like youtube tried to remove one of Kayli's moms creepy videos and she and her asspatters reacted about how you'd expect
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Thankfully YouTube restored her miraculous video about the death and resurrection of her spud
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wow, their faces radiate joy and happiness, truly this isn't a sign she should have been left dead.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

Are you saying your sister says that to birthing women or she had that said to her when she was giving birth? That's an extremely cunty thing for a healthcare professional to say. People like that are what empower these homebirth freaks to flatout avoid proper medical care and kill their babies.

My sister phrases it more professionally, I assure you, when interacting with patients. She encourages them to put all the energy they're putting into screaming into pushing. Making some grunts, groans and noises of exertion are, of course, normal during labor. Even the 'moo'-ing thing some women chose do to can be beneficial. But some women scream like maniacs, like they're auditioning to be a scream queen for Wes Craven. They get more focused on reacting to the pain than pushing, so she (and other nurses & doctors) try to get them to put all the energy & vocalizing (which can exhaust you) into a more productive task. Child birth is terrifying, especially for first time moms & my sister has excellent bedside manner. She's even trained herself not to roll her eyes when women get 'push gifts'.

She's made the constipation comparison to me because (as I'm sure many know) the pushing motion for giving birth and having a bowel movement are very similar. We don't scream when you bear down to take a shit.