U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Iceland Heavy]

Antifa have finally got their Horst Wessel.

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They've had their Horst Wessel in Heather Heyer for years now, she was way more useful to their cause then trash like Reinoehl or the Kenosha 3 will ever be.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Hey kiwis kinda a odd question but do black people actually suffer from systematic racism? Is there any merit whatsoever to BLMs arguments? And is there a way to fix something like that other than giving black people free stuff?

There is something to it because of subconscious biases, and there's not much to do other than be a little aware of it, but it feels like BLM are giving people a reason to actually hate black people (i.e. arson, looting, violence, and dindu nuffin attitudes).

There is an argument like the guy that died in Rochester in police custody, but that has more to do with the system and/or training than the individual police officers.

Breonna Taylor was a time you could argue about police did things, but she’s been mostly used as a hashtag. George Floyd could have been a thing too, but the autopsy has made a case where the police weren’t directly responsible for his death and the body cam footage that was leaked may have ruined the image BLM painted of him. Everyone else has been shown to be either a career criminal, what could be seen as a stereotype, or shown to have not gone down quietly or something that just shows them to not be someone you want to defend or champion unless you’re REALLY dedicated.

 

[DeadFish]

I think no matter what happens in November, there's going to be a power play between AOC's progressives and the older establishment.

By the way, I was having an argument with a friend, and he literally said this:

Him: Yes because they have an antithesis for women
Me: Wait, who's they?
Him: Bernie bro’s.
Me: AOC is going to be leading the progressives in 2-4 years, so I disagree.
Him: Eh that’s a solid point

In his defense, once I pointed out that AOC was going to lead the progressives next cycle, at least he admitted he was wrong. But still. There are people out there that think BernieBros are sexist against women? Dafuq?

The sooner you see the average person as an echo machine the sooner you'll save yourself stress, conflicts and meltdowns.

Expecting people to have the same level of sentience as you only invites trouble and disaster.

 

[FatalTater]

Hey kiwis kinda a odd question but do black people actually suffer from systematic racism? Is there any merit whatsoever to BLMs arguments? And is there a way to fix something like that other than giving black people free stuff?

There are certain people and places that are 100% anti-black. (Corbin Ky comes to mind)
HOWEVER there are an awful lot of trash that will blame anything but themselves for their problems. If someone tells them that it's racism's fault they won't get off the couch and do anything to better themselves then you bet they'll swear their problems are because they're black.

 

[gangweedfan]

There is something to it because on subconscious biases, and there's not much to do other than be a little aware of it, but it feels like BLM are giving people a reason to actually hate black people (i.e. arson, looting, violence, and dindu nuffin attitudes).

There is an argument like the guy that died in Rochester in police custody, but that has more to do with the system and/or training than the individual police officers.

But what about all that shit they said about black people being less educated than white people and living in worse houses?

 

[Salubrious]

The sooner you see the average person as an echo machine the sooner you'll save yourself stress, conflicts and meltdowns.

Expecting people to have the same level of sentience as you only invites trouble and disaster.

That's true, but this one was new to me. I'd never heard anyone call Bernie Bros sexist before.

But what about all that shit they said about black people being less educated than white people and living in worse houses?

Let's just say that I got a lot of shit from black teenagers growing up for reading too much.

A lot of black people are uneducated because being educated is seen as a negative. Think crabs in a bucket mentality. Educated black people are accused of being "too good" for other black people. So a lot of them are uneducated by choice.

You can argue that the price of education can be a hinderance to someone that wants to get out, but I think at this point people would love to throw student loans at minorities. It may be scholarships that's a different issue.

There are certain people and places that are 100% anti-black. (Corbin Ky comes to mind)
HOWEVER there are an awful lot of trash that will blame anything but themselves for their problems. If someone tells them that it's racism's fault they won't get off the couch and do anything to better themselves then you bet they'll swear their problems are because they're black.

Which is why you'll literally hear people say that "facts are racist." Or that trying to improve your own lot in life is "rooted in white supremacy." A lot of people, not just blacks, want to not put in any effort and then play victim. Same thing for the fat acceptance movement.

 

[RodgerDodger]

We may have a Battle of Louisville on our hands.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1301907180531126273.html

https://archive.vn/WMfFD

oh look it’s the “Not Fucking Around” Larp’ers. The last time they showed up they accidentally shot two of their own people. When they paraded through Stone Mountain Park in Georgia the Rednecks were laughing at them because their guns were assembled wrong. It was transparent that they were mostly paid actors holding props.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Every Empire collapses and the US has been an empire at least since 1865. It's only expanded since then. Maybe US is the first to buck the trend, I doubt it.


Russia doesn't want it. The point of buying something is so you dont have to invade it. China cannot afford the cost of invading the US, at most you'll see satropy states on the West Coast from Canada to Southern California but I doubt that too. When the governing state ceases to exist it doesnt matter what you bought previously. Who ever is there and with enough guns owns it. China isn't sending enough guns. They have Africa to deal with.


This is why Harris is such a bad pick. What you're describing could have been done with a Warren or Sanders candidacy. Which would have been the smartest strategic thing the neolibs could have done. Taking an establishment senile old man and a corrupt power hungry cop, having them spit out woke talking points will not appease the far left base. They already have spoken out against both of them. All this incoming loss is going to do is cause the more radical leftists to insist on moving the party farther left and having a true believer run for office instead of a neoliberal in disguise.

They've kicked the can down the road for their inevitable restructuring. What should have been a 1 maybe 2 term rebuilding effort is looking like it will never be rebuilt now.

How long before it’s blown up? All Republicans have to do is keep the momentum rolling after Trump. Every GOP supporter knows that and the establishment people from the Bush era is either dying or getting their asses kicked in elections.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

Hey kiwis kinda a odd question but do black people actually suffer from systematic racism? Is there any merit whatsoever to BLMs arguments? And is there a way to fix something like that other than giving black people free stuff?

Used to be overt - redlining, jim crow, etc. Slavery itself still has a long shadow - breaking up families, making it hard to pass knowledge from parents to children, the inability to accrue wealth. Wealth tends to be built over generations, so stalling that out has an effect. One can argue the harshness of policing nonviolent crimes, particularly marijuana, falls more heavily on blacks.

However, in the modern moment, the best arguments at systemic racism... are essentially the way that welfare and the teachers' unions are designed. Welfare punishes you for using it like a safety net, and seems explicitly designed to keep you stuck on welfare forever. Getting big benefits for having children that get slapped if there's a husband in the house seems to incentivize something utterly counterproductive. The worst teachers being unremovable from the worst schools with the worst curriculums, none of which can be altered or edited without an insane struggle - I mean, how're you supposed to grow in a world where people are incentivized to do nothing, and your teachers get actively annoyed if you seem to give a shit and want to get out?

That's true, but this one was new to me. I'd never heard anyone call Bernie Bros sexist before.

Kamala stole her 'call Biden racist and then work with him' thing from Warren. Warren called Bernie a sexist, despite obviously gunning to be that codger's VP.

 

[Evilronald]

Elijah Schaffer hasn’t really got much viewing on here in regards to the Rittenhouse case, but he was also there and was following the group of people who ultimately attacked Kyle. They apparently had weapons and aren’t anything like what the media depicted them as. I think that besides McGinnis and Schaffer, there was also Drew Hernandez.

 

[DeadFish]

That's true, but this one was new to me. I'd never heard anyone call Bernie Bros sexist before.



Let's just say that I got a lot of shit from black teenagers growing up for reading too much.

A lot of black people are uneducated because being educated is seen as a negative. Think crabs in a bucket mentality. Educated black people are accused of being "too good" for other black people. So a lot of them are uneducated by choice.

You can argue that the price of education can be a hinderance to someone that wants to get out, but I think at this point people would love to throw student loans at minorities. It may be scholarships that's a different issue.

Please note a person could be very intelligent but have little or no sentience.

If you ever crave a deep and meaningful conversion with someone with loads of sentience call your phone comapany and play with the automated voice menu.

As for fixing black culture there is a way to handle it but it would be a huge undertaking.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Hey kiwis kinda a odd question but do black people actually suffer from systematic racism? Is there any merit whatsoever to BLMs arguments? And is there a way to fix something like that other than giving black people free stuff?

I believe that cops are more jumpy and careful around Blacks given a few factors, mainly location and previous experiences.

We all know that many high crime areas tend to have a larger Black population so this might lead to cops being more guarded when dealing with people stopped in these areas.

Based on 13-50 we know that Blacks are disproportionately arrested for more murders than any other racial group. Such, cops might be more careful due to these factors as well.

I don't believe their are cops looking to murder Black people and nearly all cops just want to make their quota and go on meal break.

People might bring up the drug use and arrest rates but I believe that is a result of Black areas being more violent and having more police. Additionally, I believe that where drugs are used is a factor. Smoking pot in your parents basement results in a much lower chance of arrest than smoked with your homies in a park.

Moving on to other drugs, you might get the Crack vs. powdered cocaine example. This again is different. Just look at the popular and actual use of powdered cocaine. It's mainly used in offices by executives or by people looking to party longer. Now let's look at crack. Used in some abandoned house or on a street corner. What are the associated crimes of each drug? Some questionable business decisions and stock trades vs. the crime wave of the 1980s and early 90s.

Others might cite the jobs and names studies done but that study did not control for social class or pronunciation difficulty vs possible racial bias.

Honestly, I would be hesitant to deal with an investment banker named Cletus or Candy. I would keep on scrolling until I found something less trashy. Similarly, with difficult to pronounce names. Why risk social humiliation and be corrected pronouncing a difficult name when I can choose a more easily pronounceable person.

I am not saying racism does not exist, I am saying that all the advantages Blacks have had over the years outstrips the ghosts of racism from a bygone era. The sad thing is that, I believe when I am ready to retire the Black community will still be in the same position it is now.

Edit: Let me just add my the Japanese experience in the United States. Japanese people were interned and hate throughout the war and well into the 1950 and 1960's. Other Asians were not looked upon too favorably either.

Now, I know liberals like to pull other the rebuttal to the Model Minority myth by stating the immigration requirements made it harder to get here except for the more intelligent of the Asian American immigrants.

While that is true, are we not according to their very logic in a system of overwhelming racism and White Supremacy? In such a system, should not Asians, regardless of merit, met the same fate a Blacks that are trying to succeed are oppressed?

 

[Pale Green Horse]

I don't virulently hate any race, I do however virulently hate communists and any other group who wishes to enslave , kill, or otherwise harm my kids on the basis of their race. If we had an actual nazi threat, i'd treat them the same as commies, but we do not. Do you have kids? It's a gamechanger. Also, war has allowed me to know exactly what these pukes are capable of, as well as normalising killing them to stop them doing it.

I like your style...agreed 100% and an "amen" to what you wrote. Once I got married and started having children, my views on things really did change dramatically. My wife and children take priority now, and I will do all it takes to defend them.

It really does put a lot of things into perspective....like grand-scheme things, meaning-of-life type stuff...

As an aside: our thoughts about this also touch upon the reason why the Left absolutely, positively HATES the traditional nuclear family and always does whatever it can to destroy it: they don't want to be burdened with the responsibilities being a good parent requires. That is "oppressive" to them.

And furthermore, as the years go by, I see the Left becoming increasingly violent in their opposition to anything True, Good, and Beautiful, to the point where now, yes indeed, they wouldn't hesitate to kill any one of us for being what we are. They have become completely unhinged at this point and are acting accordingly. They are demonic and should be seen and treated as such.

 

[Hux]

As an aside: our thoughts about this also touch upon the reason why the Left absolutely, positively HATES the traditional nuclear family and always does whatever it can to destroy it: they don't want to be burdened with the responsibilities being a good parent requires. That is "oppressive" to them.

I think it's something else, myself. What do we know are some big motivators for what makes these folks tick? Envy and Spite. What is one big constant factor when it comes to them down to the individual level? A massive majority of them come from some variation of broken, dysfunctional, sometimes even genuinely abusive families. All this added together, why do they hate the idea of a nuclear family? Simple if you follow the same line of thinking they apply to everything else in the world, at least in a deep-seated, subconscious level: If they can't have it, no one can

 

[FatalTater]

Traditional nuclear families, especially close, decent ones do not make as many disenfranchised people that can be manipulated into joining cults or terrorist organizations. Parents that raise their own children instead of sticking them in daycare the moment the baby comes home from hospital are going to instinctively take an interest in the kids, making it harder for outside brainwash to take effect. It Takes A Village to get enough young adults to mindlessly try to burn down a city.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

Breonna Taylor was a time you could argue about police did things, but she’s been mostly used as a hashtag. George Floyd could have been a thing too, but the autopsy has made a case where the police weren’t directly responsible for his death and the body cam footage that was leaked may have ruined the image BLM painted of him. Everyone else has been shown to be either a career criminal, what could be seen as a stereotype, or shown to have not gone down quietly or something that just shows them to not be someone you want to defend or champion unless you’re REALLY dedicated.

McCain could have been a good face for them (at least he would have been a sympathetic case), but they had to fill the story with lies*, that discredit the narrative and just make BLM look worse.

*"Police killed him" when it was result of a drug reaction that EMS gave. "500mg is more then double a doctor gives!" If it was administer by IV yes, but it was via intramuscular injection, 500mg of ketamine is on the low end for some one of McCain's weight.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Every Empire collapses and the US has been an empire at least since 1865. It's only expanded since then. Maybe US is the first to buck the trend, I doubt it.


Russia doesn't want it. The point of buying something is so you dont have to invade it. China cannot afford the cost of invading the US, at most you'll see satropy states on the West Coast from Canada to Southern California but I doubt that too. When the governing state ceases to exist it doesnt matter what you bought previously. Who ever is there and with enough guns owns it. China isn't sending enough guns. They have Africa to deal with.


This is why Harris is such a bad pick. What you're describing could have been done with a Warren or Sanders candidacy. Which would have been the smartest strategic thing the neolibs could have done. Taking an establishment senile old man and a corrupt power hungry cop, having them spit out woke talking points will not appease the far left base. They already have spoken out against both of them. All this incoming loss is going to do is cause the more radical leftists to insist on moving the party farther left and having a true believer run for office instead of a neoliberal in disguise.

They've kicked the can down the road for their inevitable restructuring. What should have been a 1 maybe 2 term rebuilding effort is looking like it will never be rebuilt now.

the US has long resisted Empire. If it is an Empire it is generally a more traditionally isolationist and anti-expansionist one. Also the only one that negotiated and purchased most of its territory. Not saying the US isn’t a Hegemony. Post WW2 The US slid into the prior British position of global naval hegemony. Prior to that the US tended to be more the odd nation that stood between the Western Powers and the East Acting as a moderator.(kicking open Japan notwithstanding.)

As for the Chinese Property ownership. Too much is made of that without recognizing it for what it actually is. It’s not a Chinese attempt to invade by other means. You can’t actually do it that way. Rather it is the Chinese people squirreling always money in ways that the CCP cannot steal. As the Chinese standard of living has increased, Banking options available to Chinese Citizens and Small Businesses are limited, corrupt, and under the control of the party. So instead they sneak the maximum amounts they can out, and buy property in the US and Canada, Because US and Canadaian Laws protect property rights, and Beijing can not touch it. It insures that if or when they choose to depart China, they have a secure nest egg that can’t be confiscated at the border. It’s not the CCP seeking to claim US land. It’s individuals including wealthy highly placed CCP members stashing money for when the mob comes for them.

And yeah the DNC needed to go into rebuild mode in 2016. They didn’t. Obama let Hillary strangle all the new talent in its crib between 2008 and 2016. Insuring that there were no viable establishment younger Dems to stand against the Progressive Nutbags in 2018. Hillary got beat by a young charismatic upstart in 2008. So she made sure There were no more such people to challenge her again. Suddenly they aging stalwarts found themselves facing loony leftists that nobody was paying attention to (just exploiting). The truth is the Dems are so divided and so disorganized, that they likely have no hope of pulling off their Hail Mary cheat by mail scheme, nor challenge the election results to force it to the House. They will lose badly in November, they know it. But they are still fighting to keep the money flowing in, and to stave off the Progressive takeover. If they lose badly enough in November they will face a Whig type moment which will leave them shattered. With the Dems confined to the NE or mid Altlantic, NY, NJ, etc, and the Progressives in the Pacific NW.

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

AMATEUR?!?!

What work did those faggots do? Oughtta dox 'em just to teach them a lesson...

 

[Who dat?]

Knowing I may have played a small part in that by flat-out lying when I got calls from people carrying out polls gave me a big warm fuzzy feeling inside. Had I a penis, I would have got a right chubby going on

Here's Mike Royko, RIP, from 1984. It created a piss storm and the paper made him apologize. Everybody with two or more brain cells loved it.

 

[AutoGuyNoFile]

But still. There are people out there that think BernieBros are sexist against women? Dafuq?

That was what the term was originally coined for. Jessica Valenti was paid by Hillary's campaign to make Bernie look bad so she invented the concept of the Bernie Bros as a GamerGate-esque group of men who supported Bernie because they hate women.

Yes, it's completely retarded. But Bernie Sanders supporters just sorta adopted the term and it's now just the term used for them.